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Title: What I have been trying to say to Mikey for a day or two
Post by: rockyslammer on August 01, 2008, 08:52:38 PM
is this.  What is your esteemed leader doing out with "another" woman?

Seriously is this how the leader of the most ethical group on the planet behaves?  I think not.

He is just dirty little maggot using his influence and power to screw someone else's wife.

I have not problems with sex but I think men and women should have ethical principles.  Just call me old fashioned!

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h52/mjrinnz/pork.jpg)


Title: Re: What I have been trying to say to Mikey for a day or two
Post by: rockyslammer on August 01, 2008, 08:53:41 PM
yippee I got a photo to show.  I'm the man - well last time I looked!


Title: Re: What I have been trying to say to Mikey for a day or two
Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 05, 2008, 01:38:50 AM
Here`s what happens when you write to David Miscavige.
What if this was his communication course certificate?
http://s44.photobucket.com/albums/f3/randomx2001/?action=view&current=refused-letter.jpg


Title: Re: What I have been trying to say to Mikey for a day or two
Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 05, 2008, 09:31:42 PM
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3/randomx2001/refused-letter.jpg)

Hope this works.
scan of previous link.
cross fingers


Title: Re: What I have been trying to say to Mikey for a day or two
Post by: Nick4291 on August 07, 2008, 03:42:48 PM
I don't understand what that picture shows? David miscavidge standing with another women?


Title: Re: What I have been trying to say to Mikey for a day or two
Post by: Eugene on August 07, 2008, 04:05:18 PM
I don't understand what that picture shows? David miscavidge standing with another women?

Shelley Miscavige, DM's wife, has been missing in action for a number of years it seems. Rumor has it that she got pregnant and didn't want an abortion that she would normally have been coerced to have had, being a Sea Org member. Because the baby is a 'withhold' then Shelley will be deemed a PTS and, thus, nobody will want to be around her including DM. So the fact that DM is hanging around another woman, in the years long absence of Shelley could imply a relationship.

However, this is all speculation, so can't be sure of anything.


Title: Re: What I have been trying to say to Mikey for a day or two
Post by: Nick4291 on August 07, 2008, 04:29:11 PM
so? it's not our goal to pry into his private life though. i suppose we could try find his wife yes but honestly that pictures suggests absolutly nothing. he's not holding hands
he's not even looking at them. i don't understand how that shows a possiblee relationship. i hang around girls. but does that imply a relationship? not at all.


Title: Re: What I have been trying to say to Mikey for a day or two
Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 07, 2008, 05:42:35 PM
This has been addressed in another post started by Rocky.
"Davy porking someone else`s wife.
http://www.nzraid.info/forums/index.php?topic=292.0

Please read that thread.
But just to add to the subject...

Of course in the real world, who is having sex with whom
would only be of interest to the party`s concerned.

However David Miscavige intends to some day rule the world.
That is no exaggeration.
People at that point have a right to know what that would entail.
As scientology won`t answer questions honestly on the subject
we are forced to get an insight into that Miscavige led world
by his actions.

He has ordered over 50 couples, that we know of, to divorce.
He has sent people to slave labour camps for having sex.
He has total access to the secret sexual history of
every single person who has ever done a scientology ethics
handling.
He also has access to the private sexual history of anyone
who has ever had sex with a staff member.

Google "Life history"

It`s no secret where Shelley Miscavige is.
She`s looking after an under ground archives Vault in
New Mexico. There is no reason for a snr scientologist to be at that site.
None whatsoever.

Just like Laurese has no reason to be at a race meeting.
A scientology staff member  is regularly asked, "What product are you working on?"

This makes DM a hypocrite.
What he is doing is contrary to scientology teaching.
Even if he isn`t "goofing the flute".
Scientology staffers have a right to know what
Laurese has done to be given the right to socialize with the cruises
while they are under a state of siege.

I`m outta time.







Title: Re: What I have been trying to say to Mikey for a day or two
Post by: rockyslammer on August 07, 2008, 09:35:29 PM
exactly!  ididntcomeback said it all.

what has little laurese done to to be able to rub shoulders with the Cruises?

Where is dm's  wife - siberian salt mines?  Where is Laureses husband?  DM told them to divorce.

If it quacks like a duck.........................................

Sure - normally it would be their own business I agree but this is the man who is in charge of the most ethical group on the planet - pardon me while I vomit!

Yes maybe there is nothing to it - maybe.

We're just letting the rank and file know how their leader spends his time and who with.

Martin


Title: Re: What I have been trying to say to Mikey for a day or two
Post by: Nick4291 on August 07, 2008, 09:39:39 PM
well i doubt we are letting the rank and file know anything. they do not come on this site and will not accept anything we say anyway. also. what you're doing is mere speculation. if anything it's exactly what they do to us. say we're doing things based on hearsay and half truths. i don't think we should stoop to their level. these things should be backed up with fact.


Title: Re: What I have been trying to say to Mikey for a day or two
Post by: rockyslammer on August 07, 2008, 09:50:24 PM
It's you who is making the assumption the rank and file don't read here.

I know for a FACT that some do.  Mikey does for example and I know because he told me.

They may not believe me certainly - but the photo????

Getting facts is going to be a bit difficult - I doubt DM & laurese will let me into their bedroom.  However we can make educated guesses can't we?  Speculation is something else.

One of us here knows little Laurese personally and apparently she has "special" talents!!  He said so on this forum.

I know mikey will be pissed that dm went to the moto races with TC while he works 25 hours a day for peanuts.

dm lives the life of a billionaire - which he is.

Martin



Title: Re: What I have been trying to say to Mikey for a day or two
Post by: cvanony on August 08, 2008, 02:56:12 PM
I personally don't give a rat's ass if DM is cheating on his wife; that's her problem, not mine.  And our raking up speculation on that part makes us no better than DM & Crew.  If you posted a picture of me and a friend at the rugby game and said I was cheating on my husband because of this random photo, I would have your head on a spike.  Even if you said that hubby and I were divorcing & were speculating on whether or not the "other man" was the cause...well, that's just stupid.

We need evidence of crimes...not speculation on who is fucking whom.

TLDR: cock or gtfo




Title: Re: What I have been trying to say to Mikey for a day or two
Post by: anonyrat on August 08, 2008, 11:42:07 PM
What cv and Nick said


Title: Re: What I have been trying to say to Mikey for a day or two
Post by: rockyslammer on August 09, 2008, 02:51:11 PM
CVANONY

I am sorry I have absolutely no idea what

TLDR: cock or gtfo

means!!

If you were at a rugby game with another man it would mean nothing.  Of course - but then you are a nobody - like me.

Mind, your kids and husband might like to know!  AND the man's wife and kids too.

However when you elect yourself as being better than anyone else in the world and you hang out with the rich and famous then it is a different story.  Now I bet you read what Paris or Britney has or hasn't done or what it has been speculated they have done.

How many "Womens's" magazines are there?  It would appear that more than of few women just love to read the speculation about these so called "stars". 

So when I do it - it is wrong??

If you don't personally care if DM is cheating on his wife that's fine.  I'm sure he doesn't care what you think either.  BUT BUT BUT - it's what his victims think that matters.

It's actually got nothing to do with you at all!

You speak new speak and I - old speak.

Shakespeare: "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

I am going to repeat myself - sorry.

It's not about you or me.  It's about the insane, criminal cult, scientology.  Nothing more nothing less.
Put the truth out there and even the odd speculation maybe.  Let the punters make up their own minds.

regards
Martin



Title: Re: What I have been trying to say to Mikey for a day or two
Post by: rockyslammer on August 10, 2008, 09:02:37 PM
OK - I looked them up for myself

TLDR = "Too Long disn't read" - "your attention span is so short you can't read more than 5 words strung together."

COCK = "An extremely over-confident male who acts like he knows everything just because he THINKS he has a lot in the pants... the type of guy who never gets any." 

GTFO = "get the fuck out" - "Use when not particularly interested in thinking up a some new glib witticism."

Acronyms are too unreliable for me - they can mean too many things.

I still prefer oldspeak.

Swift:  "Yahoo"! 


Title: Re: What I have been trying to say to Mikey for a day or two
Post by: Nick4291 on August 11, 2008, 07:34:49 PM
Speculation is not what we want though, speculation is unfounded accusations, which is not what Anon is about. we are about fact. and the facts of scientology is what needs to come out here. not the unfounded acusations on DM. yes that may have happened to his wife because of the pregnancy, but it's not our place to then say "HE'S CHEATING ON HIS WIFE BASED ONA PICTURE WITH SHOWS HIM NEXT TO A WOMEN!" that is unfounded and unwarrented.


Title: Re: What I have been trying to say to Mikey for a day or two
Post by: Eugene on August 11, 2008, 07:48:56 PM
Speculation is not what we want though, speculation is unfounded accusations, which is not what Anon is about. we are about fact. and the facts of scientology is what needs to come out here. not the unfounded acusations on DM. yes that may have happened to his wife because of the pregnancy, but it's not our place to then say "HE'S CHEATING ON HIS WIFE BASED ONA PICTURE WITH SHOWS HIM NEXT TO A WOMEN!" that is unfounded and unwarrented.

QFT


Title: Re: What I have been trying to say to Mikey for a day or two
Post by: Roberto on August 15, 2008, 09:22:41 PM
Facts are good...but speculation has it's place.  Speculation can lead to questioning that has not taken place before.  Speculation of one person can confirm the relevance of someone else's thoughts.  Speculation is appropriate in the face of so many lies and secrets.



Title: Re: What I have been trying to say to Mikey for a day or two
Post by: rockyslammer on August 16, 2008, 11:04:52 AM
Speculation is not what we want though, speculation is unfounded accusations, which is not what Anon is about. we are about fact. and the facts of scientology is what needs to come out here. not the unfounded acusations on DM. yes that may have happened to his wife because of the pregnancy, but it's not our place to then say "HE'S CHEATING ON HIS WIFE BASED ONA PICTURE WITH SHOWS HIM NEXT TO A WOMEN!" that is unfounded and unwarrented.

Wrong!

Speculation is NOT unfounded accusation!!

If you are going to criticize (not a problem) it's your responsibility to know what you are talking about!  Sorry Nick but you are talking nonsense.

We all speculate - every day of our lives.  Some people do it for a living.  Speculation is (usually) based on knowledge of the subject.  If it isn't then it is just simply blind guessing. Also you are NOT reading my posts intelligently.  I have never accused him of actually cheating on his wife and you know it.  You are deliberately changing what I have said.

Is your name really Nick?  Maybe its Mike?  If your aren't then you are trying to do his job.

Besides who are you to say what Anons are about?  I always thought they were an anonymous group of freethinking individuals who can make up their own mind what is valid or not.

I have no intention of stopping what I do or say.  DM would have you all euthanased if he could - have no doubt about that. Handing out leaflets and affecting his income is making him mad.  Not too mad as he already has a few million in the bank!  (Yes, more speculation)

Anons here can think for themselves - but I actually am talking to current scios who don't know the facts.  Give em the facts and a teensy weensy bit of speculation just for fun!

Nick - when you become the leader of anon I will then accept that you talk for all of them.  Until then we will continue with this game of semantics. 

regards
Martin






Title: Re: What I have been trying to say to Mikey for a day or two
Post by: Nick4291 on August 16, 2008, 04:09:35 PM
well first off anon has no leader. so i will never be the leader.

i think debate is good. i'm merely saying these personal attacks and speculation on his personal life might not be what is needed. but i'm not going to stop you posting them, and i am not going to rage at you for it.

well if you have an questions about me being a spai you are welcome to send them to mikey@nzraid.info =P


Title: Re: What I have been trying to say to Mikey for a day or two
Post by: rockyslammer on August 16, 2008, 04:53:41 PM
Thank you - we will agree to disagree.  I can live with that.

With regard to Mikey's email address - I have his personal one.  We mailed each other for a long time after I did 60 Minutes and then he started phoning me.

Don't forget what I do and say is over my own real name and with my face showing.  I am not anonymous and if I said anything slanderous/libelous/defaming Mikey would be knocking at my door with his little lawyer.  Think about that for a second.

My conversation here is mostly to the scio lurkers including Mikey.  He is better informed than most but he is still a mushroom - kept in the dark and fed full of shit!

Whereas scios won't listen to you because you are beneath them (yes they are arrogant) they might listen to me as I've been there and done that.  From the manner of my communication they know I know things.  EVERY scio has disquiet and I make it my duty (yes duty) to give them as much data as possible so they can make their own conclusions.

Some ARE on the verge of quitting scio land and I want to be here for them if I can.

PM me guys and gals.

regards
Martin