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Title: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 29, 2009, 12:07:56 AM
I figured there`s going to be quite a it of coverage on this trial over the next month or so ... Maybe deserves its own thread.

Here is a link to kick things off and put everyone in the picture.
Videos and sound bites here...

http://timescolumns.typepad.com/gledhill/2009/05/oh-church-of-scientoloy-what-art-thou.html


Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: rockyslammer on May 30, 2009, 09:00:46 AM
And the chain reaction starts..........

Australia's Federal senator Nick Xenophon says it's time to re-examine Scientology's claims as a religion and to change the laws to force the group to start paying tax.


Scientology fraud
Reporter: Bryan Seymour
Broadcast Date: May 29, 2009

The church of Scientology is fighting one of the biggest battles in
its 50-year history.

Forget Xenu the alien overlord and Tom Cruise's bizarre outbursts,
this time they're in court facing serious fraud charges.

A woman in France alleges she was manipulated into handing over her
life savings.

Bryan Seymour reports the case has ignited questions here about how
Scientology minds its own business.

Scientology is under siege.

"Well in Germany Scientology isn't recognised as a religion and in
France it's leaders are facing fraud charges," said Nick Xenophon, the
Independent Federal Senator from South Australia.

In Paris a court will decide if Scientology fraudulently manipulated a
woman into handing over $36,000.

"The only purpose of Scientology is to take money from people," said
the French prosecutor in the case. He is seeking to have Scientology's
leaders found guilty and fined over ten million dollars and to have
the group banned from France altogether.

The French spokeswoman for Scientology was blunt in her assessment of
the case: "â ¦it's nothing really, it's bullshit really."

She added that the judge may have been influenced "by the media and
the climate" to allow the trial to proceed, which is a serious and
unfounded allegation.

Originally four people were accusing Scientology of fraud but two of
them came to a financial settlement with the organisation.

The woman at the centre of the trial says she was walking past
Scientology headquarters in Paris in 1998. She was approached in the
street and offered a free personality test.

"She was humiliated and defrauded for a long time, she bought cases
full of expensive books and cassettes all cloaked in this goal of self-
improvement to become this incredible person," said the French
Prosecutor trying the case

Not surprisingly, the test revealed she had shortfalls. She says she
was told Scientology had the cure and was then scammed into buying
books, courses, vitamins and even an electrometer, which is supposedly
able to measure mental energy.

Scientology says the case is one of religious discrimination rather
than the alleged fraud leading to members handing over their life
savings.

"There's no witch-hunt, France respects freedom but even with
religious freedom France can't ignore people breaking the law, if you
have religious freedom if you can't do things that are above the law,"
said a French Government official.

After a nine year inquiry into the group, a French judge declared
Scientology "...is first and foremost a commercial business."

Prosecutors allege the director of Scientology in France, Alain
Rosenberg, and six other top officials preyed on vulnerable would-be
followers "...with the goal of seizing their fortune by exerting a
psychological hold."

Today Tonight were contacted by a woman who claimed she had been
recruited into Scientology as a child and manipulated into handing
over a vast sum of money. When Today Tonight approached Scientology to
respond to her claims, they said the woman had signed a
confidentiality contract with them and they sent their lawyers
scurrying to court seeking an injunction on the story.

But that's not why Today Tonight decided not to show the interview.
Her family asked that the the interview not be aired - and Today
Tonight agree... her best interests should come first.

Federal senator Nick Xenophon says it's time to re-examine
Scientology's claims as a religion and to change the laws to force the
group to start paying tax.

"We need to have a close look at those laws because I think there's a
lot of community concern that an organisation such as Scientology gets
the huge benefits of having the tax exempt status as a religion,"
Senator Xenophon said.

Historically Scientology brands anyone who questions their
organisation a religious bigot.

"This is not about religious bigotry, this is about accountability and
I think it's pretty cowardly of an organisation to start accusing
those that just want to question they way they operate, to make sure
what they do is transparent, accountable and fair," Senator Xenophon
said.

As always, the church of Scientology declined a request to be
interviewed.

No doubt they'll be closely watching what happens in France.

"I think there is a role for regulators, for governments to have a
very close look at these tactics because if they don't we'll continue
to see more and more of these cases emerging where people's lives are
being destroyed because they've handed over their life savings,
they've handed over their inheritances to Scientology," Senator
Xenophon said.

The cult information and family support network has branded
Scientology a cult, not a religion and say ex-members can contact them
for help and advice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lbByKVj_20


Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: anonyrat on May 30, 2009, 02:21:27 PM
"Federal senator Nick Xenophon says it's time to re-examine
Scientology's claims as a religion and to change the laws to force the
group to start paying tax."

Oh niiiiiice.


Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on June 02, 2009, 11:36:02 PM
Scientology May Have a Friend in Sarkozy: Le Monde of France
Posted by WILLIAM KERN in Celebrities, Civil Liberties, France, Law & Legal Matters, Legal Matters, Moral Values, Movies, Newspapers, Nicolas Sarkozy, Popular Culture, Religion on Jun 1st, 2009 | Comments |


As has been widely publicized, a trial began last week in Paris that could result in the dissolution of the Church of Scientology in France.

But according to Le Monde reporter Caroline Fourest, the French government might just tip the scales of justice in favor of the group, called a path to salvation by its adherents and a dangerous cult that takes advantage of the vulnerable by its critics.

For Le Monde, Caroline Fourest writes in part:

“After a 10-year-investigation, the case against the group is solid. Yet Scientology has expressed confidence. And what’s the reason for such optimism? A surprising request for dismissal by the public prosecutor at the end of the court investigation [a sign that the Sarkozy government isn’t too happy about pursuing the case. The court dismissed the request].”

“In 2003, members of the Interministerial Mission for Monitoring and Combating Cultic Deviances recall having attended a seminar where the lawyer for the Jehovah’s Witnesses and Danièle Gounord, spokesperson for Scientology, had dinner with a representative of the Interior Ministry’s Religious Affairs Bureau [Sarkozy was interior minister]. The same year, Arnaud Palisson, an intelligence service official, published a thesis on Scientology that was shelved at the request of the sect.”

“In 2004, Sarkozy met Scientology ambassador Tom Cruise - to talk about the cinema, of course. That same minister [Sarkozy was finance minister] published a book calling for a more tolerant secularism, where the word ’sect’ wouldn’t be used ‘left, right and center.’”

    By Caroline Fourest

    Translated By Sandrine Ageorges

    May 29, 2009

    France - Le Monde - Original Article (French)
    The trial that began in Paris on May 25th is a test to determine whether France remains a country that is particularly diligent about a reversion to sectarianism or whether it’s letting down its guard. One may recall the ambiguous statement by Emmanuelle Mignon, the former chief of staff to the president, which has since been deemphasized: “Sects are a non-issue.”

    This is not the opinion held by the victims of Scientology, for example a hotel maid who spent over $29,800 [€21,000] in just a few months on “life reparation classes,” sauna sessions, vitamins and an “electrometer” supposed to measure the “zones of spiritual imperfections.”


Check out the photo
http://themoderatevoice.com/33883/scientology-may-have-a-friend-in-sarkozy-le-monde-of-france/


Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on June 11, 2009, 12:35:18 AM
                                 More on France


The Church of Scientology is on trial in Paris for organised fraud. Six individuals and two organisations have been charged and if they are found guilty the Church may well have to wind up some or all of its activities in France.
This trial had been talked about for months here as being a make-or-break affair for Scientology and it began last Monday. The two organisations being tried are the Spiritual Association of the Church of Scientology and the Scientology library, SEL. The individuals are all members of the Church of Scientology.

Several people brought the case to court, all of them filing complaints for alleged fraud and or mental and emotional abuse. They allege that the Church put heavy psychological pressure on them to invest thousands of euros in Scientology products and services.

Three Scientology services in particular are being analysed by the court and sworn-in experts. The French online paper Rue 89 gives a short description of them.

The first is called Communication Lessons. New members receive lessons from Church Counsellors.

The price of these sessions varies depending on the member’s ability to pay and which branch of the Church he or she is enrolled in. Prices of over 1000€ have been cited. 1 euro is worth 1.4 US dollars at today’s rates.

Another service involves Purification Rundown sessions. They are one of the biggest-selling products for the Church and are claimed to be a means of ridding one’s body of impurities. Ex-member Roger Gonnet describes a session, saying “Members have to take lots of vitamins in the morning, and follow that up with a half-hour jogging session. Then they go into a sauna for four and a half hours. Members do this for days on end.” The cost of this service is around 2000€.




But the service that is being most talked about right now is the Scientology Electrometer, pictured above. An electrometer is an electrical instrument designed to measure electric charge or electric potential differences. There are different types of electrometers on the market, ranging from simple-to-build kit models to sophisticated electronic versions.

The one used by the Church of Scientology is said to be a relatively simple model which is produced in Taiwan. Scientologists claim that it explores and analyses emotions and they consider it as being a religious instrument of scientific value.

The person being analysed is hooked up to the instrument via two electrodes and then undergoes a two hour long interview which is said to begin with phrases such as “Take yourself back to a moment when you were happy (or unhappy).” During the interview the electrometer measures changes in the electrical energy being discharged by the interviewee. This shows up on the instrument, whose needle moves to the left or right with energy fluctuations. The interview is supposed to lead to a “confession” by the person concerning his or her emotional capacities, strengths and shortcomings.

A Scientology Church witness quoted by Le Figaro said “The electrometer helps us to decide in which direction questioning should go. This questioning allows the member to know himself better, to improve and grow stronger.”

The person is then audited, starting at level zero and has to reach level OT8. The Church is said to organise the result attribution process in such a manner that some members fail to reach OT8, which means they have to begin, and pay, again

The machine costs 5000€.

Most of the testimony given by experts in the field of electrometers are skeptical of the Church’s claims, one of them saying “It clearly appears that the machine is nothing more than a trap destined to lend a scientific aspect to a process which is not scientific at all.”

Some accusations of abuse are from alleged victims who prefer to remain press anonymous, such as Madame A, who has testified that she was swindled out of over 20 000€. Her lawyer Maître Morice says “This woman was made to believe (in 1998) that she was in a very bad state and that the only way out of it would be Scientology. She was told that she should equip herself with an electrometer, follow Communication lessons, and take a Purification Rundown.

Another of the alleged victims is Madame Aude-Claire Malton, who says she lost 21 500€ in two months.

Eric A, for his part, lost 49 483€ in three months. He is appearing as a witness in the trial, having retracted his formal accusations in exchange for a financial settlement from the Church.

According to Liberation he described himself as being “lonely and depressed” when he joined, and that he hoped to find friends within the Church. He was recruited by Didier Michaux, a Scientology librarian. Eric A has testified to being telephoned several times a day by Michaux, who would read him passages from texts by Ron Hubbard, the Church’s founder, for hours. Eric A also contends that Michaux accompanied him literally to the door of a credit company in order that he obtain a loan to pay the Church’s bills.

Michaux puts all this down to what he calls their “Convivial relationship.” Of Eric A’s Purification rundown, he says “All I can remember is that Eric A was a figure skater, and that he was very happy with the Purification Rundown because that gave him better sensations when on the ice.”

Didier Michaux says he was paid 4500€ a month in commission on sales of the Church’s books. “But” he says “I did it out of religious conviction, not because of financial motivation.”

Another Church of Scientology recruiter, Jean-François Valli, was also questioned about his commission on sales of the church’s products and services. He tried to justify his payment by supplying documents to the court, one of which was an internal financial document dating from 1998 and containing figures relating to cash payments which were expressed in euros. That which surprised the court, and subsequently led to Valli being reminded that the euro didn’t come into existence as a hard currency until 2002.

The trial is still in the initial testimony phase, with many more witnesses still to be heard.

There has been another recent Scientology-related development here in France. Miviludes is the French government agency whose job it is to track and counter those religious and other groups it considers as being sects.

I recently wrote an article describing their work and the accusations contained in their latest report which contend that the Church of Scientology is actively trying to block their efforts to bring attention to alleged sect and Scientology influence within the United Nations.

I received information after that article drawing my attention to a letter–petition that was sent by six United States Congress members on US Congress letter-headed paper to Pierre Vimont, France’s Ambassador to the United States.

The letter is highly critical of the report highlighted in my article and was signed by Trent Franks (Rep-Ariz.), Frank Wolf (R-Va.), Gus Bilirakis (R-Fla.), Dianne Watson (Dem-Calif.), Bob Inglis (R-S.C.) and Dan Burton (R-Ind.).

They contend that the report "..raises serious concerns regarding protection for an individual's right to freedom of religion in France.”

Miviludes has expressed their ironic surprise that US Congress Members would suddenly be so interested in France, and it would appear that the letter is a subtle reference to Mivilude’s allegations of Scientology’s influence in the United Nations via front organisations.

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/273868


Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: rockyslammer on June 11, 2009, 07:53:38 AM
"Another Church of Scientology recruiter, Jean-François Valli, was also questioned about his commission on sales of the church’s products and services. He tried to justify his payment by supplying documents to the court, one of which was an internal financial document dating from 1998 and containing figures relating to cash payments which were expressed in euros. That which surprised the court, and subsequently led to Valli being reminded that the euro didn’t come into existence as a hard currency until 2002."

With all the enhancing services these guys have had why are they all so furking stupid.  I mean "creating" a document purporting to be from 1998 and using euros which didn't come into being till 2002!!

Another fine example from homo idiocis.  They think they are superior - someone ought to tell them.

regards
Martin





Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on June 11, 2009, 04:00:47 PM

‘Damning Testimony’ from Former Scientology Leader: Le Parisien, France


Posted by WILLIAM KERN in Arts & Entertainment, Religion on Jun 10th, 2009 |

Scientology ‘electometer’: Does this $7,000 device actually identify unwanted influences, emotions or painful traumas?

The trial of Scientology, France continues, and here is the latest report on the proceedings from France’s Le Parisien magazine.

According to the report, on Monday the former leader of Scientology in Lyon and a former member of the French National Assembly testified on how the Church operates, how it persuades its adherents to fork over thousands and thousands of euros for treatments and a device that is supposed to help ‘clear’ followers of unwanted influences, emotions or painful traumas.

For Le Parisien, reporter Anne-Cecile Juillet writes in part:

“It was a grueling morning for representatives of the Church of Scientology, on trial for organized group fraud since May 25. Monday morning before the 12th criminal court of Paris, they faced two witnesses called by the plaintiffs. All told, only two witnesses, but two witnesses that both inflicted historic destruction on the movement, which they described bluntly as a ‘cult’: Jean-Pierre Brard, former National Assemblyman from the French Communist Party who represented Seine-Saint-Denis, and above all, Roger Gonnet, director of the Scientology center in Lyon. They didn’t mince words …”

According to Brard, the Church has two goals, ‘Power and money. Money to gain power and power to gain money.’ … Presiding judge, Sophie-Hélène Château, wanted details, especially when Brard claimed that Scientology makes the process of its decision-making and finances opaque: ‘It is like a drainage system,” he illustrated. “We don’t see all the little underground channels, but it functions very well, and the water always arrives safe and sound.’

    By Anne-Cécile Juillet

    Translated By L. McKenzie Zeiss

    June 8, 2009

    France - Le Parisien - Original Article (French)
    It was a grueling morning for representatives of the Church of Scientology, on trial for organized group fraud since May 25. Monday morning before the 12th criminal court of Paris, they faced two witnesses called by the plaintiffs. All told, only two witnesses, but two witnesses that both inflicted historic destruction on the movement, which they described bluntly as a “cult”: Jean-Pierre Brard, former National Assemblyman from the French Communist Party who represented Seine-Saint-Denis, and above all, Roger Gonnet, director of the Scientology center in Lyon. They didn’t mince words, being accustomed to the judicial proceedings that Scientology and other movements have become accustomed to.

    BRARD: ‘ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS CULTS’


http://themoderatevoice.com/35017/damning-testimony-from-former-scientology-leader-le-parisien-france/


Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: useful_anon on June 11, 2009, 07:52:33 PM
Cults sur son moyen de sortir de France. ce sont de bonnes nouvelles. =)


Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: useful_anon on June 11, 2009, 07:56:54 PM
excuse the french.


Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on June 12, 2009, 12:37:13 AM
 Bit of an update..

Quick translation:

Scientologists claim no self-interest

Anne-Cécile Juillet | June 10, 2009, 22:36 | Updated : 22:39 (Paris time)

If the stakes are so high for the Church of Scientology in France at the organized fraud trial which began on May 25 in Paris, it's because a conviction as a legal entity could entail its dissolution.

On Wednesday, the court heard the testimony of Eric Roux and Aurore Nadler. The former is a representative of the Celebrity Center, one of Scientology's two Parisian sites.

The latter represents SARL SEL, the bookstore which is located within the Scientology premises and markets the works of its founder, L. Ron Hubbard. The actual manager since 1997 refused to be present at the trial. She lives in Denmark, where the headquarters of Scientology in Europe are located. Since taking that post, she has visited the Paris bookstore only "five or six times".

At the Correctional Tribunal, Eric Roux, tall, lean, and speaking in a calm voice, spent three hours testifying. This "Minister of the Church of Scientology", accustomed to preaching, appeared completely at ease in front of the audience, to the point of sometimes wanting to set the pace. Before letting him speak, the presiding judge, Sophie-Hélène Château, made the cryptic comment: "I imagine you've been well trained," a veiled reference to several witnesses who explained that, "In Scientology, we were trained to lie in court."

"We are not a department store!"

Eric Roux replied simply, "This is totally false" and dismissed out of hand all the testimony against his organization. His message was summed up in a refrain which he repeated over and over on the witness stand: at the Church of Scientology, "no one puts a penny in his pocket." Yes, Scientology requires that members pay "contributions", but what church does not? Yes, we are delighted when we receive large donations, like any church that wants to "help humanity to progress." No, it does not seek new followers according to their income. No, there is no re-invoicing outward to the mother house.

When the tribunal pointed out that the testimony of Scientologists and even the writings of Ron Hubbard state that target numbers must be met, he retorted that these are religious ... and that the financial aspect is inevitably connected with religion. "We are not a department store," argues Eric Roux, denying any form of telephone chasing of followers who participate little, as one plaintiff lamented, or any form of "hard sell".

The tribunal heard the explanation on that subject from Aurore Nadler: "In reality, hard sell means taking care of a person, this is how Scientology defines it" said the de facto manager of the bookstore. "Really?" said the presiding judge with a look of surprise. "Yes, this means that we take as much time as necessary to understand a person's needs." And then sell "religious services".


Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on June 20, 2009, 04:50:56 PM
Nothing new here, but this is from "USA Today"
This is the newspaper Scientology ran full page ads in
for weeks back when Time magazine put out their
cult of greed and power cover story back in 1990 or so.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2009-06-19-scientology-france_N.htm



Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on June 21, 2009, 02:21:48 PM
You can help vote Scientology out of France!

English translation of French online Opinion poll @
MSN Politique - Sondages
http://2007.fr.msn.com/Votes.aspx

Are you favorable to the dissolution of the Church of Scientology?

44 % * Yes = * Oui

55 % * Not

3 % * Without opinion

Number of answers: 12029 polls

Opinion poll performed by the 6/16/2009 in the 6/22/2009

Alerted to this by scilon email asking all scilons to
go here and vote non. NO   

There have been (at least) two other polls

The Orange home page poll was 84 per cent for banning Scientology, 12 per cent 'does it matter', and 4 per cent don't know.

Some other Yes-No poll was 95 per cent Yes.

I would say these are genuine reflections of the balance of public opinion in France during the trial. So this poll is certainly rigged.
Do it now. Voting closes on Monday !!! 22 of June


Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on June 22, 2009, 02:47:37 AM
Should scientology be thrown out of France ?
As of 2:46 am Monday morning.

52 %  * Oui

47 % * Non

1 % * Sans opinion No opinion

Vote again... !!!
Send the link to your friends.

http://2007.fr.msn.com/Votes.aspx


Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on June 22, 2009, 11:14:40 AM
Should scientology be dissolved in France ?

56 % yes
43 % no
1 % no opinion.

As of 11:13 am Monday June 22nd.

http://2007.fr.msn.com/Votes.aspx


Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on June 22, 2009, 07:24:31 PM
58 % * Oui

41 % * Non

1 % * Sans opinion (No opinion)

As of 7:24 PM 22nd June 2009


Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on June 23, 2009, 08:05:44 AM
 59 %   * Oui

40 % * Non

1% * Sans opinion

Nombre de réponses : 193906 votes

As of 8:05 am 23 June 09 NZ time.


Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on June 24, 2009, 02:45:54 AM
                         Translation of French article
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iGX2mRSf78IYUWvBF9WfrLuiNJCQ

NANTERRE (AFP) - The raids were conducted last Thursday at two sites of Scientology in Paris in the investigation into the suicide of a follower in December 2006, it was learned Tuesday near the source file, confirming information Parisien.

According to this source, investigators from the Central Office for the Suppression of violence to persons (OCRVP), before a preliminary inquiry from the floor of Nanterre, wanted to get their hands on the facts of the case of Gloria Lopez, who had terminated his life to 47 years by being caught by a train at the station in Colombes (Hauts-de-Seine).

The research took place after the end of the trial for fraud in an organized gang that ran the Paris court where the prosecutor has requested the dissolution of the two main structures of French Scientology.

The first raid took place at the headquarters of Scientology, in the twelfth arrondissement of Paris. The second, which was the Celebrity Center (XVIIe arrondissement), a short shot, center officials have refused access to investigators, as allowed by the procedure in some cases preliminary investigations, said the source close to the case.

Gloria Lopez was a member of Scientology for about ten years when it was given the death. Suspicions of his family, who complained were born after the discovery at his home in letters and documents referring to all kinds of expenses and debts for the benefit of the movement.

"In view of these documents, it is obvious that Scientology took advantage of it and had defrauded. She was in debt from banks and had squandered an inheritance to buy the course in advance and climb in the hierarchy" , had told AFP in October 2008 her ex-husband, Pascal Le Berre.

Several relatives of Gloria Lopez were heard in this matter, including his two children.


Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on July 06, 2009, 12:51:57 AM
                   Scientology on trial in France...


 the trial is over and the judgment will be delivered on October 27, 10.00 am Paris time.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Just a brief update on the trial because I won't get to it in my coverage for a good while yet...Coverage will resume shortly.

The prosecution is asking for the "dissolution des personnes morales" -- which is to say they want the two Scientology organisations in the dock -- the Celebrity Centre of the L'Association spirituelle de l'Eglise de Scientologie (ASES) and the bookshop Scientologie espace liberté (SEL) -- to be shut down.

They also want the two organisations to be fined two million euros each.

For the six individual defendants, they asked for fines and in four cases suspended sentences:

- for Alain Rosenberg, the managing director of the Celebrity Centre, 150,000 euros and a four-year suspended sentence;
- for Didier Michaux, their star salesman, 50,000 euros and a three-year suspended sentence;
- for Jean-François Valli, the other salesman, 25,000 euros and a three-year suspended sentence;
- for Sabine Jacquart, who was president of the Celebrity Centre, 10,000 euros and a two-year suspended sentence;
- for Aline Fabre, who managed the Purification Rundown, and for Marie-Anne Pasturel, who as agent for G&G in France took orders for the vitamins, 2,000-euro fines.

The lawyers for the plaintiffs did their summing up today too and the hearing took place in a packed courtroom.

The defence will plead tomorrow and Wednesday and then the panel of judges will consider their verdict and any sentences. The judgement will be delivered on October 27, 10.00 am Paris time.

It is worth noting that when the investigating magistrate was putting this case together, the prosecutor at the time had said there was no case to answer.

http://infinitecomplacency.blogspot.com/2009/06/paris-trial-what-prosecution-wants.html


Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on July 08, 2009, 08:37:42 AM
                   Quote of the day.


Alain Rosenberg: These were not treatments, but "religious services". They cannot have a price because there is no price for spiritual elevation.
Judge: Why then do there exist very detailed fee schedules for all these services?
Alain Rosenberg: The fact that they have a fee does not contradict the fact that they have no price.


I have a question...

Oh what`s the use ?


Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 29, 2009, 03:41:05 PM
                         
                               Scientology: crisis in France

guardian.co.uk

It claims to be one of the world's fastest-growing new religions but a battery of legal cases threaten its very existence in this secular country



In a small Normandy village, surrounded by wheat fields, Gwen Le Berre keeps a Scientology "electrometer" machine in his bedroom. He opens the large green briefcase and peers at the machine inside. It looks like a lie-detector from an old TV cop show and Le Berre doesn't really understand how it works – he just knows it's a key piece of kit for the Church of Scientology.

Le Berre, 21, keeps the machine as a memento of his mother's life. Four days before Christmas 2006, Gloria Lopez, a 47-year-old secretary, tidied her kitchen, hung out her washing, left her dull, suburban apartment overlooking the railway in Colombes, west of Paris, and walked the 30 metres out on to the tracks. She stood with her arms outstretched, smiling at the driver of the oncoming commuter train. He couldn't stop in time.

Lopez had left Spain in the 80s to marry Pascal Le Berre, a French secondary school teacher. The couple had two children together in Normandy, but divorced soon afterwards. It was just after the split that Lopez – who had always been interested in alternative medicine and esoteric ideas – met some Scientologists and signed up. The church was to become her life. Eventually, she moved to Paris, leaving her two children behind, to be nearer the Scientology Centre.

"When she found herself alone after the divorce, her need for a spiritual search was reawakened," Pascal Le Berre says. "At the start, Scientology gave her confidence, it gave her the illusion she could be stronger than she thought. She saw it as helping the world work better – even a way of saving the world."

Gwen Le Berre had been due to visit his mother to give her her Christmas present two days after she killed herself. His elder sister, Mathilde, had seen her a few weeks before and, although Lopez had lost weight in recent months, she had seemed in good form. They were convinced she would have left a suicide note, and went to her apartment, where the shelves were stacked with Scientology books and DVDs, to search for one. Instead, they found a box of documents in which she had handwritten a series of punishing self-appraisals as part of her membership of the Church of Scientology. She wrote of how she owed money to the organisation for courses, was struggling to advance up the path to spiritual enlightenment, really wanted to succeed as a Scientologist, and regretted every mistake in her life. "She even wrote that she had surfed the internet for two minutes beyond her allocated lunch break at work," Gwen says.

continued....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/aug/29/scientology-france-legal


Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 29, 2009, 03:43:21 PM
For blow by blow accounts of the French trial go here.

http://infinitecomplacency.blogspot.com/


Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 17, 2011, 12:47:59 PM
                       Thursday March 17 2011

              Paris Flash Raid Scientologist attacked us.

Okay...this is rough from a google translation:
A flashraid this afternoon with aggression ! 4 Scientologists, which went beyond scientologist located in building 7 rue Jules César to Paris, are taken to us with a violence incredible. Nono la Patate was nasty attacked him: it to the broken nose and multiple lesions. I have also been attacked by several individuals but my state is less serious. We found to the Hospital. The equipment to been damaged.

These are wild scientologists without a name, they deserve to beings prosecuted and sent to prison as criminals of their species. We call on each of us join the Saturday 26 March to 14H00 opposite the 69 rue Legendre, Paris 17ÈME, metro Brochant or the Fork, to denounce these crimes and ask the dissolution of this sect which, i notes again today, is more and more dangerous. ANONYMOUS CIRCLE.

Report and photo

http://forums.whyweprotest.net/threads/paris-flash-raid-scientologist-attacked-us.78017/



                   


Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 01, 2011, 07:40:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mnql1 View Post
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?t=23147

"Here is a link to a French documentary that first aired on Thurs. April 28, 2011. It describes how John Travolta and Tom Cruise help Scientology's image and it includes comments by Mark Bunker, Amy Scobee, Nancy Many, and Jay Fernandez of the Hollywood Reporter.

Perhaps the most suprising revelation comes from Nancy Many, Director of the Celebrity Centre, 1978-1991, who explains that the key benefit John Travolta received from Scientology is that it got him out of legal trouble. At 6:19 in the video, she says, "He was in trouble with the law. He was about to be [inaudible] in a legal morass, and they used their lawyers and their private investigators to get him out of it. And then -- I don't want this public. Could you shut the camera for a second?" This segment was obviously not removed."

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Hollywood et la Scientologie
Duration: 28 min. 15 sec.
Nice mnql1!

Funny, I just came across this tonight; I was reading Gary Weber's apology to planet earth for his shenanigans while a now defunct 'Guardian's Office' operative. Gary Weber was apparently the Nazi scientologist whose picture was front page news in the Clearwater Sun some years ago.

In his apology, he mentioned this about John Travolta:

<snip>"Another lady by the name of Nancy or Diane Bush also worked "Internal Intelligence." Internal Intelligence was really an underhanded way of collecting personal "auditing files" and ethics files of Scientology parishioners. GO Intelligence staff would go through these folders and look for anyone disaffected or a "possible trouble source" within the church. In the expediter unit I was always getting parishioner's "Confidential PC Files" for the Internal Info Bureau folks. Info Bureau had tons of files on people inside the Church as well as outside the Church. Whenever a "Dead Agent Package" was needed to discredit any foe of the Church it could easily be prepared with all these confidential files. At first I was shocked that the GO would use trusted or "sacred" personal files against our own people, but in the name of saving the planet it was justified.

I remember John Travoltaused to speak publicly how he loved Scientology but didn't like the management. I wasn't in charge of collecting his folders, but I recall being told that he was being "handled" by upper management. It wasn't long before he changed his attitude."

DOX: http://www.lermanet2.com/garyweber/
(Thanks to Arnie at OCMB)


Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 23, 2011, 09:09:32 AM
Scientology: Trial in November
AP
May 9, 2011

The French branch of the Church of Scientology, which was convicted and fined 400,000 euros for "organized fraud", will be retried in November by the Paris court of appeal, according to a judicial source, and the new trial will take place from November 3 to December 1, 2011.

On October 27, 2009, the Paris correctional court convicted Scientology's two principal organizations in France, the "Spiritual Association of the Church of Scientology - Celebrity Centre" and the Scientology bookstore, and fined them, respectively, 400,000 euros and 200,000 euros.

Six members of the Church of Scientology were convicted, four of whom received suspended prison sentences ranging from 10 to 24 months for "organized fraud". Two others were fined for "complicity in the illegal practice of pharmacy".

The Church of Scientology was founded in 1954 by American science fiction writer Ron Hubbard.


Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 25, 2011, 11:38:34 PM

     France: COS says Justice Ministry infringing on appeal trial (Nov. 3, 2011)

Scientology attacks a French Justice Ministry circular on "sectarian abuses"

October 24, 2011

The Church of Scientology announced on Monday that it has filed a complaint with the United Nations Special Rapporteur on the independence of judges following the publication by the French Ministry of Justice of a circular which, according to the Church of Scientology, infringes on the right of "religious minorities" to a fair trial.

The circular on "vigilance and the fight against sectarian abuses", dated September 19, was addressed by the Justice Ministry to prosecutors and presidents of courts of first instance and courts of appeal.

Its distribution comes as the appeal trial of the Paris branch of the Church of Scientology is set to start on November 3 in Paris. After a first trial, the Celebrity Centre and its bookstore, the movement's two principal entities in France, were fined, respectively, 400,000 euros and 200,000 euros for organized fraud.

In the circular, which is available online, the Justice Ministry reminds judges of the legislative texts that are applicable to sectarian abuses and makes recommendations about "verifying whether victims are in a state of psychological subjection."

The document cites "tests, purification treatments, vitamin cures" as examples of techniques that can lead to alteration of a person's judgment.

These examples are "religious practices of Scientology", protested one of Celebrity Centre's lawyers, Michel de Guillenschmidt, during a press conference. His colleague Jean-Marc Florand said that this document "clearly has no other purpose than to put pressure on judges" as the trial approaches.

"We also plan to notify the Justice Ministry of a claim for damages as a result of a wrongful act," added François Jacquot, attorney for the "de facto leader" of Scientology in Paris, Alain Rosenberg.

For the Church of Scientology, the circular "is just the latest in a series of measures implemented by the Ministry of Justice in collaboration with Miviludes [Interministerial Mission of Vigilance and Combat against Sectarian Abuses] to undermine the independence of the judiciary and the right to a fair trial for religious minorities in France."

Considered a religion in the United States, the movement founded in 1954 by American science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard was classified as a cult in France by a 1995 parliamentary report. It claims 12 million followers worldwide and 45,000 in France.

http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/societe/20111024.AFP6708/la-scientologie-attaque-une-circulaire-sur-les-derives-sectaires.html


Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 03, 2011, 04:27:05 PM
                   France: Initial plaintiff withdrew from Nov. 3 appeal trial

    In news published on Nov. 2, 2011, it was revealed that the woman whose 1998 complaint led to Scientology's 2009 conviction for organized fraud has withdrawn from the proceedings and that, as a result, no individual plaintiffs will be involved in the Nov. 3, 2011 appeal trail. This would leave as the only plaintiffs the Order of Pharmacists and the UNADFI, an association that defends victims of cults, if the latter's request to join as a plaintiff is accepted.

    Translation of a French Associated Press report posted on Nov. 2, 2011 on the website of weekly news magazine Le nouvel Observateur:

    Retour à la case tribunal pour la Scientologie

    Scientology returning to court

    November 2, 2011

    PARIS (AP) - The Church of Scientology will again be facing justice on Thursday. New hearings will begin at the Paris court of appeal regarding the "organized fraud" conviction against the French branch of this organization that is considered a cult by French authorities. Six of the movement's officials and the SEL Scientology bookstore will also appear at the trial, which is scheduled to last until December 1.

    On October 27, 2009, the Paris correctional court imposed a fine of 400,000 euros on the "Spiritual Association of the Church of Scientology - Celebrity Centre" and of 200,000 euros on the bookstore for "organized fraud".

    Four members of the Church of Scientology who were convicted of the same charge received suspended prison sentences ranging from 10 to 24 months - the longest going to Alain Rosenberg, who is considered one of the movement's leaders in France. Two other members were fined 1,000 and 2,000 euros for "complicity in the illegal practice of pharmacy".

    For this new trial, defense lawyers will use various tactics to seek the repeal of the entire first trial decision and to gain acquittal. Certain parties may raise priority issues of constitutionality.

    The lawyers will argue that the first decision undermines freedom of religion and freedom of association. "Scientology's fault is that it is religion that was born in the twentieth century," said one of the defense lawyers, Michel de Guillenchmidt, in an interview with Associated Press. In his view, "The court failed to understand freedom of conscience and freedom of religion."

    Eight defendants - six individuals and two legal entities, will be retried. The appeal court will examine the methods and practices of both organizations, in particular the sale of a device that is supposed to "measure changes in a person's mental state and allow a practitioner to draw conclusions about the individual's personality." This "E-meter" is sold to followers for 4,800 euros.

    The case began when a former follower filed a formal civil complaint in December 1998. In May 1998, she was accosted by Scientologists at the exit of a subway station. The association first offered her a personality test and an appointment to interpret the results.

    Over time, the complainant spent 140,000 French Francs (21,340 euros) for books, a communication course, a "life repair", and "purification packs". To pay for this, she had to take out loans and empty her bank accounts. When she demanded the refund of these sums, the association refused and proposed instead that she sign a protocol, but she declined. According to the defense, these sums have since then been reimbursed to this complainant.

    It was learned from a judicial source that, at the appeal trial, the complainant is expected to withdraw as a plaintiff. However, the defense is on edge because the UNADFI ("National Union of Associations for the Defense of Families and the Individual") will again be present, even though its request to join the plaintiffs was turned down at the first trial. Scientology's lawyers also intend to submit arguments to have UNADFI declared inadmissible.

    Another plaintiff is the National Order of Pharmacists, which opposes the sale of vitamins by the association and had filed a complaint for "illegal practice of pharmacy".

    At the end of the first trial, the prosecution requested the dissolution of the church and of the bookstore, but this penalty was abolished in May 2009 because of a reform to simplify the law. It has since been restored, but it can only apply to offenses committed after the restoration. On account of the dissolution requests, Scientology has initiated civil litigation against the government for 900,000 euros.

    Considered a religion in the United States, Spain and Sweden, the movement founded in 1954 by American science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard has been classified as a cult in France since 1995.



    A Nov. 2, 2011 article in Le Figaro contains much of the information that has already been posted about the 2009 conviction for organized fraud and the Nov. 3, 2011 appeal trial, but it also provides this detail (translation):

    Nouveau procès contre la Scientologie

    "Aude-Claire M. withdrew from her complaint by a letter dated December 8, 2010. There is no longer any physical victim," Michel de Guillenchmidt, one of the defense attorneys, said today.

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?25295-France-Initial-plaintiff-withdrew-from-Nov.-3-appeal-trial


Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 04, 2011, 01:46:18 PM
                   Church of Scientology appeals French fraud conviction


PARIS — The Church of Scientology launched an appeal Thursday against a French court ruling that found it guilty of fraud for fleecing vulnerable followers and fined it hundreds of thousands of euros.

The 2009 conviction saw Scientology's Celebrity Centre and its bookshop in Paris, the two branches of its French operations, ordered to pay 600,000 euros ($820,000) in fines for preying financially on several followers in the 1990s.

Arriving for the hearing at a Paris court, the group's spokesman Eric Roux said he hoped the appeal would "expose the truth of this matter, which was judged in a scandalous manner the first time."

The original ruling, while it stopped short of banning the group from operating in France, dealt a blow to the movement best known for its Hollywood followers such as Tom Cruise and John Travolta.

Alain Rosenberg, the French leader of the movement, was handed a two-year suspended jail sentence and fined 30,000 euros on the same charge of fraud.

Five more Scientologists were given fines ranging from 1,000 to 20,000 euros for fraud or the illegal practice of pharmacy after plaintiffs said they were given vitamins and concoctions to improve their mental state.

France regards Scientology as a cult, not a religion, and has prosecuted individual Scientologists before, but the case marked the first time the organisation as a whole had been convicted.

Olivier Morice, a lawyer for Unadfi, an organisation that campaigns against sects and is a plaintiff in the case, said the appeal was unfounded and accused the movement of being a business instead of a religion.

"For us, Scientology is a business, whose main goal is to elicit money from its followers," he said outside the court.

The appeal opened with the movement's lawyers arguing for a postponement on the grounds that a justice ministry circular instructing judges on how to deal with cults had singled out its practices.

The court rejected the motion, but said it would consider a second request for a dismissal based on a number of constitutional questions, including whether the case was being dealt with "within a reasonable delay" since the incidents involved dated to the late 1990s.

The court said it would rule within a few days on the dismissal request.

The original case followed a complaint by two women, one of whom said she was manipulated into handing over 20,000 euros in 1998 for Scientology products including an "electrometer" to measure mental energy.

A second claimed she was forced by her Scientologist employer to undergo testing and enrol in courses, also in 1998. When she refused she was fired.

Founded in 1954 by US science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard, the Church of Scientology is recognised as a religion in the United States. It claims a worldwide membership of 12 million and 45,000 followers in France.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jTOjGc1F8bT5YA_D9zv1JecPObqw?docId=CNG.05ef6098d03ca3f6ae535c992af6d23d.b1


Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 09, 2011, 07:18:12 AM

Re: France: Scientology appeal trial Nov. 3 - Dec. 1, 2011

    Translation of a French article posted on Nov. 8, 2011 on the website of weekly news magazine Le nouvel Observateur:

    http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/societe/20111108.FAP7667/scientologie-cinq-qpc-rejetees-par-la-cour-d-appel-de-paris-la-defense-en-presente-une-nouvelle.html

Scientology: Paris appeal court rejects 5 questions of constitutionality, defense adds a new one

November 8, 2011

PARIS (AP) - The Paris court of appeal, where the French branch of the Church of Scientology is on trial for "organized fraud", refused on Tuesday to refer to the Court of Cassation any of the priority questions of constitutionality raised by the defense. The defense responded by filing a new priority question of constitutionality and by reintroducing two questions that had just been rejected.

The French branch of Scientology, the SEL Scientology bookstore, and five members of the movement are being retried until December 1. They are suspected of having exploited the vulnerability of their followers to extract money from them.

Two of the priority questions of constitutionality focus on the "reasonable time frame" to hear a case and on the statute of limitations. The other three concern the penal responsibility of legal entities.

The Paris court of appeal decided that the first two were not admissible for reasons of form. The lawyer that raised these questions, Gérard Ducrey, who is defending a former president of the French branch of Scientology, reintroduced the questions after making adjustments for conformity.

The attorney for the bookstore, Louis Pamponet, filed a new priority question of constitutionality in which he questions the refusal of the Court of Cassation to submit its jurisprudence to the Constitutional Council. In his documents, he states that "to avoid any interference" by the Constitutional Council in its jurisprudence, the highest court is "withholding from referring any priority question of constitutionality bearing on its interpretation."

The court will deliver its decision on Thursday morning at 9 A.M.

At the first trial, the Spiritual Association of the Church of Scientology - Celebrity Centre was fined 400,000 euros and the bookstore was fined 200,000 euros for "organized fraud". Four of the movement's officials received suspended prison sentences ranging from ten months to two years for the same offense. Two other members were handed fines for "illegal practice of pharmacy."



Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 09, 2011, 07:33:23 AM
                       Paris court rejects effort by Scientology Church
November 8, 2011

   
PARIS—A Paris appeals court has rejected a bid by the Church of Scientology to get the group's fraud conviction thrown out because the case has taken too long.

The lawyers had asked the appeals court to allow France's highest judicial body, the Court of Cassation, to rule on whether too much time had elapsed since the alleged fraud took place in the case dating to 1998.

The refusal of that request means the appeals hearing will move forward. It is set to finish on Dec. 1.

The court is reviewing the 2009 conviction of the church's French branch, its bookstore and six of its leaders.

The group is accused of pressuring members into paying large sums for questionable remedies and using "commercial harassment" against recruits.


http://www.boston.com/news/world/europe/articles/2011/11/08/paris_court_rejects_effort_by_scientology_church/


Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 12, 2011, 01:45:29 PM
Re: France: Scientology appeal trial Nov. 3 - Dec. 1, 2011

    Translation of an article posted online on Nov. 11, 2011 in the French edition of Slate:
    Scientologie: les grandes manoeuvres pour échapper à la justice
    Scientology maneuvering to escape justice

    by Emmanuel Fansten
    November 11, 2011

    Convicted of organized fraud in 2009, the organization is trying one maneuver after another to torpedo the appeal trial.

    With Scientology, justice is often a matter of miracles. Missing files, vanishing complaints, endless procedures ... Trials rarely unfold normally when they involve the heirs of L. Ron Hubbard. The trial that began on November 3 at the Paris court of appeal is no exception.

    At the first trial in 2009, the prosecution demanded the outright dissolution of Scientology's two principal entities in France, the Celebrity Centre and its SEL bookstore.

    Unfortunately, a mysterious legislative revision that was discreetly voted into law a month earlier precisely prevented the dissolution of a legal entity convicted of fraud.

    At the time, this matter caused a big stir. Certain members of the National Assembly even spoke of infiltration by Scientology at the heart of the Justice Ministry. Following an internal investigation, it was finally discovered that the change in the law was due to a "blunder" by a civil servant at the National Assembly.

    The malaise became even harder to quell when Scientology, claiming it was wronged by the prosecution's illegal requests, filed a lawsuit for gross negligence against the French government for one million euros in damages and interest...

    Buying off complaints

    Despite these complications, the first trial ended in a harsh conviction for Scientology. The principal defendants were handed suspended prison sentences ranging from ten months to two years.

    Moreover, Scientology as a legal entity was convicted of organized fraud and of the illegal practice of pharmacy, and fined 600,000 euros. It was not just the underlings, but the Scientology system itself that was excoriated by the French justice system in 2009.

    Two years later, the organization is determined to avenge this slight and, to avoid any new conviction that would be catastrophic in terms of image, Scientology is willing to pay a high price.

    According to an internal source, Scientology's legal department has spent more than one million euros on the current trial. This amount includes the fees of its lawyers - more than half a dozen at the hearings - but also payments to victims to have them withdraw their complaint, an old Scientology method.

    The last victim to accept a settlement in return for her silence was Aude-Claire Malton, the only plaintiff who held out from the pressures all the way to the first trial.

    In court, the young woman described her first contact with Scientology, one evening in May 1998 at the Opéra metro station.

    After taking a "personality test", she was diagnosed as having a psychological fragility and was referred to the Scientology center in Paris. The new recruit then spent 21,500 euros in just a few weeks for courses and books, liquidating her home-savings account and her life insurance. Though financially ruined, she was even escorted by a Scientologist to a credit institution ...

    "An unhealthy climate"

    It is impossible to know how much money the young woman received for her retraction. However, now that all the victims have withdrawn their complaints, only two plaintiffs are left at the appeal trial: the Order of Pharmacists and the UNADFI, the principal French anti-cult association.

    The situation is considered intolerable by Scientology, which for many years has repeatedly complained about a "thought police" funded by the government. In a thick press package distributed to journalists in the lead-up to the trial, L. Ron Hubbard's organization violently attacked the UNADFI:

    "Its use of the courts for partisan purposes and its intervention to shape the testimony of former parishioners to match its own freedom-stifling agenda are the source of the rumors that surround this trial."

    This line of defense is largely being followed by Scientology's lawyers. "We are not in a trial, we are in a fight," asserted one of the attorneys on the first day of the hearings. In addition to attempting without success to adjourn the case and raising multiple priority questions of constitutionality to delay addressing the substance of the trial, the lawyers have also complained about the "unhealthy climate" and "psychosis" surrounding this affair.

    It would take an effort to be fooled. Behind these procedural maneuvers, Scientology, which was classified as a "cult" by a 1995 parliamentary report, is first and foremost trying to shift the debate toward concern over religious freedom. In fact, an expert in this area, Michel de Guillenchmidt, has opportunely joined the ranks of the defense attorneys.

    A well-known lobbyist for the Jehovah's Witnesses, Michel de Guillenchmidt has for years toiled to have France convicted of religious discrimination, a cause that is also intensely promoted by Scientology itself, which does not hesitate to complain about each conviction to the European Court of Human Rights.

    "This trial will be a chance to ask the real questions about the treatment of religious minorities in France," Scientology recently said in a statement. It is not certain, however, that denying the legitimacy of the trial is a defense that will satisfy the court. Unless a new miracle comes along to save the Scientologists.



Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 14, 2011, 04:53:18 PM
                       Fri Nov 11, 2011


It did get pretty heated in the courtroom this morning.

For three hours or so, the various defence lawyers explained why the
appeal court should follow the lead of the original trial court and
refuse the request of UNADFI, the counter-cult movement, to be accepted
as plaintiffs in the case. When, after three hours, Morice got up to
respond to the attacks against his client -- and some against his own
professional standing -- things very quickly degenerated, to the point
that the judge was forced to adjourn the proceedings to break up a
shouting match between Morice and the defence lawyers, and call in the
bâtonnier.

The bâtonnier is a senior lawyer attached to the court, elected by his
and her peers, who mediates disputes between lawyers and their clients
and -- as in this case, between courtroom lawyers. It is is job to to
knock heads together to get a solution. Once the lawyers, the judges
and the bâtonnier had met in chambers, the judge adjourned proceedings
until Tuesday.

The core of the dispute came from lawyer Olivier Morice's response to
complaints by the defence lawyers against him. They pointed out that he
had earlier characterised their launch of a string of QPCs as bad faith. (QPCs
are Priority Questions of Constitutionality, technical attacks on the case to
get it adjourned or even killed off before the appeal trial takes place. In fact,
the defence lawyers argued, it was Morice who was guilty of bad faith: they
accused him of having, at the 11th hour, offered fresh grounds for his application
on behalf of UNADFI without having given them the required notice of his change of
tactics.

Morice, when he tried to argue that these arguments had in fact been long present
in the case documents, he was subjected to a combined verbal assault from several
defence lawyers. Naturally, having sat through three hours of their pleadings, he objected
to being interrupted and gave as good as he got -- so the exchanges quickly deteriorated
into a shouting match. It looks as if this will be settled one way or another if Morice can
produce the relevant document from the existing case files -- failing that, he will have to
find a fall-back position.

Even once this is settled however, other procedural issues still have to
be decided before we actually get to the meat of the case -- assuming
the court does not accede to any of the remaining defence requests to
have the case thrown out, referred to the Cour de Cassation (Supreme
Court) etc... So far however, they have rejected eight QPCs.

In the original case, Morice represented not just UNADFI
and one of the individual plaintiffs in the case -- so he was free to
intervene when he wanted in the case. Now that the plaintiff has
withdrawn from the case, he needs to be able to retain his presence in
court by having UNADFI accepted as a plaintiff in its own right -- or at
the very least have the court attach the request to the dossier to be
decided at the same time the case is decided (as happened at the
original trial). In the latter case Morice could, I think, continue to
play the same active role as before, even if his request was eventually
refused -- and that is just the eventuality the defence lawyers are
trying to head off.

Morice's interventions in the original trial were often quite telling --
in particular, he was able to introduce compromising Scientology
documents many of which eventually featured in the final judgment. And
the questions he put to two of Scientology's experts witnesses, who were
there to support the scientific credentials of the e-meter, drew
damaging admissions from them that undermined Scientology's efforts (see
The E-Meter Experts in my earlier coverage).

If Morice is definitively excluded from the appeal court proceedings, it
will inevitably have an effect on the trial -- Olivier Saumon,
representing the Order of Pharmacists on the lesser charges, has kept
strictly to the events that concern his clients: essentially the
Purification Rundown. We've not yet had a chance to see what the
prosecutor in this case is made of (it was a younger pair who appeared
at the original trial). Inevitably however, cannot have the specialist
knowledge that Morice, by virtue of his work with UNADFI, has acquired.

But all the documents and arguments already submitted to the court
remain in the dossier and will still be there for the judges to consult.
So if Morice was forced out of the trial, if it went ahead without him,
it would be a coup for the defence, but not necessarily conclusive.

More if/when I have time....

Jonny Jacobsen
http://infinitecomplacency.blogspot.com/


Scientology maneuvering to escape justice

by Emmanuel Fansten
November 11, 2011

Convicted of organized fraud in 2009, the organization is trying one maneuver after another to torpedo the appeal trial.

With Scientology, justice is often a matter of miracles. Missing files, vanishing complaints, endless procedures ... Trials rarely unfold normally when they involve the heirs of L. Ron Hubbard. The trial that began on November 3 at the Paris court of appeal is no exception.

At the first trial in 2009, the prosecution demanded the outright dissolution of Scientology's two principal entities in France, the Celebrity Centre and its SEL bookstore.

Unfortunately, a mysterious legislative revision that was discreetly voted into law a month earlier precisely prevented the dissolution of a legal entity convicted of fraud.

At the time, this matter caused a big stir. Certain members of the National Assembly even spoke of infiltration by Scientology at the heart of the Justice Ministry. Following an internal investigation, it was finally discovered that the change in the law was due to a "blunder" by a civil servant at the National Assembly.

The malaise became even harder to quell when Scientology, claiming it was wronged by the prosecution's illegal requests, filed a lawsuit for gross negligence against the French government for one million euros in damages and interest...

Buying off complaints

Despite these complications, the first trial ended in a harsh conviction for Scientology. The principal defendants were handed suspended prison sentences ranging from ten months to two years.

Moreover, Scientology as a legal entity was convicted of organized fraud and of the illegal practice of pharmacy, and fined 600,000 euros. It was not just the underlings, but the Scientology system itself that was excoriated by the French justice system in 2009.

Two years later, the organization is determined to avenge this slight and, to avoid any new conviction that would be catastrophic in terms of image, Scientology is willing to pay a high price.

According to an internal source, Scientology's legal department has spent more than one million euros on the current trial. This amount includes the fees of its lawyers - more than half a dozen at the hearings - but also payments to victims to have them withdraw their complaint, an old Scientology method.

The last victim to accept a settlement in return for her silence was Aude-Claire Malton, the only plaintiff who held out from the pressures all the way to the first trial.

In court, the young woman described her first contact with Scientology, one evening in May 1998 at the Opéra metro station.

After taking a "personality test", she was diagnosed as having a psychological fragility and was referred to the Scientology center in Paris. The new recruit then spent 21,500 euros in just a few weeks for courses and books, liquidating her home-savings account and her life insurance. Though financially ruined, she was even escorted by a Scientologist to a credit institution ...

"An unhealthy climate"

It is impossible to know how much money the young woman received for her retraction. However, now that all the victims have withdrawn their complaints, only two plaintiffs are left at the appeal trial: the Order of Pharmacists and the UNADFI, the principal French anti-cult association.

The situation is considered intolerable by Scientology, which for many years has repeatedly complained about a "thought police" funded by the government. In a thick press package distributed to journalists in the lead-up to the trial, L. Ron Hubbard's organization violently attacked the UNADFI:

"Its use of the courts for partisan purposes and its intervention to shape the testimony of former parishioners to match its own freedom-stifling agenda are the source of the rumors that surround this trial."

This line of defense is largely being followed by Scientology's lawyers. "We are not in a trial, we are in a fight," asserted one of the attorneys on the first day of the hearings. In addition to attempting without success to adjourn the case and raising multiple priority questions of constitutionality to delay addressing the substance of the trial, the lawyers have also complained about the "unhealthy climate" and "psychosis" surrounding this affair.

It would take an effort to be fooled. Behind these procedural maneuvers, Scientology, which was classified as a "cult" by a 1995 parliamentary report, is first and foremost trying to shift the debate toward concern over religious freedom. In fact, an expert in this area, Michel de Guillenchmidt, has opportunely joined the ranks of the defense attorneys.

A well-known lobbyist for the Jehovah's Witnesses, Michel de Guillenchmidt has for years toiled to have France convicted of religious discrimination, a cause that is also intensely promoted by Scientology itself, which does not hesitate to complain about each conviction to the European Court of Human Rights.

"This trial will be a chance to ask the real questions about the treatment of religious minorities in France," Scientology recently said in a statement. It is not certain, however, that denying the legitimacy of the trial is a defense that will satisfy the court. Unless a new miracle comes along to save the Scientologists.


Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 18, 2011, 08:12:08 AM
Former Scientology president filing theft complaint

November 17, 2011

http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/societe/20111117.FAP8036/une-ancienne-presidente-de-la-scientologie-porte-plainte-pour-vol.html

English translation follows...

PARIS (AP) - A former president of the French branch of the Church of Scientology intends to file a complaint against X for theft, the organization announced Thursday, explaining that this follows the disappearance of documents in the case currently being tried by the Paris court of appeal.

In a statement, the Spiritual Association of the Church of Scientology - Celebrity Centre, says it is joining the complaint which is about to be formalized by a former president of the organization, Sabine Jacquart, a defendant at the trial.

"The Church has discovered that several documents, all of which concern the UNADFI's application as a plaintiff, have mysteriously vanished from the case file. This disappearance comes at a time when the legitimacy of recognizing the UNADFI as a plaintiff is being strongly challenged by the Church," said the organization, which is considered a cult in France.

The organization accuses the court of appeal of having refused to allow the defense to consult the case file to verify "the authenticity of the disputed documents, in violation of the basic rights of the defense." He is "surprised to discover that, in fact, many of these documents have simply disappeared from the case file."

In a letter to the Paris court of appeal, Sabine Jacquart emphasizes that this [sic] document is "essential regarding the ability and entitlement to act of a plaintiff that has been hounding me through its attorney." The defense has been seeking the rejection of the UNADFI (National Union of Associations for the Defense of Families and the Individual), but the court decided to annex this matter to the substance of the case. This means that the court will rule on this question in its final decision.
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The defence lawyers in the trial on appeal of Scientology staged a mass walk-out this morning after the judge rejected their ninth QPC (Priority Question of Constitutionality). From the brief comments made outside the court their position is that they cannot proceed when the scales are tipped agains them. The central issue appears to be the judge's decision at the previous hearing to effectively allow counter-cult group UNADFI to play an active part in the proceedings by deferring until after the trial whether or not their application to be treated as plaintiffs in the case should be accepted.

The final QPC, filed on Tuesday after the judge's decision regarding UNADFI, concerned just this question of égalité des armes, having the same rights and opportunities as the prosecution and the plaintiffs. Scientology having settled with all the individual plaintiffs, the lawyers for the defendants had tried everything to get the trial either delayed or the previous judgment set aside. When that failed and the trial of the facts of the case looked like going ahead, they launched an attack on UNADFI, questioning its right to be there as plaintiffs. The decision of Judge Claudine Forkel to defer a ruling on the issue effectively meant that Olivier Morice, for UNADFI, would have been able to play exactly the same role that he had in the initial trial.

The defence argument appears to be that this means the dice are loaded against them in court and they cannot proceed under those conditions.

It took Judge Forkel less than five minutes to read out her ruling rejecting the final QPC and a defence lawyer made a brief statement saying they could not continue under such conditions and staged their mass walk-out. The judge immediately suspended the hearing. The lawyers for Scientology are preparing to release a statement that will set out their position in more detail.

Outside the court, Scientologist Eric Roux said there was no point in remaining when their most basic rights had been denied and every argument they put forward was rejected. Outside the court, Olivier Morice for UNADFI, described the walk-out as laughable. The defence team, he added, had, with their multiple QPCs, been pursuing a carefully thought-out but nevertheless suicidal strategy from the start of the trial.
http://forums.whyweprotest.net/threa...3#post-1959340

It may simply be that they are abandoning the trial on appeal to concentrate on pleadings at the Cour de Cassation to try to get the convictions overturned on legal grounds. Morice describes it as a suicidal strategy, even if it was clearly carefully planned: but it's not over until the last gavel has fallen. If they do decide to boycott the trial on appeal, the judge has announced that the trial goes ahead without them, but the sight of the empty defence benches has a fairly powerful symbolic value, which they will no doubt try to exploit. They will argue that it shows that proceedings have been stacked against them.

Or this may just be a piece of courtroom theatrics and they will return to the proceedings at a later date. Watch this space...

UPDATE: according to the latest report from Reuters, the issue is indeed that of UNADFI's role in the trial.
http://forums.whyweprotest.net/threa...4#post-1959400

Thursday's hearing resumed without the defendants and their lawyers and the court began looking at the facts of the case.

As things stand, since there appear to be no witnesses lined up and the defence will not be making its contribution, it looks as if the trial may well wind up by the end of next week instead of the first week of December, as originally scheduled.



http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2011/11/scientology_sto.php


Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 23, 2011, 07:23:02 PM
Re: France: Scientology appeal trial Nov. 3 - Dec. 1, 2011

    Update posted on Nov. 22, 2011 by Jonny Jacobsen ("Albion") on WWP:

    http://forums.whyweprotest.net/threads/france-scientology-appeal-trial-nov-3-dec-1-2011.88104/page-5#post-1965727

    A few interesting developments at today's hearing and outside the court.

    A few hundred Scientologists gathered opposite the Palais de Justice to denounce what they say is a heresy trial and and "justice sous influence" -- effectively that someone has influenced the court against them. Potentially more important however, is a point of form that Olivier Morice, for counter-cult group UNADFI brought. If it is borne out by the documents in the case, it could disqualify the appeal brought by one of the personnes morales, the Scientology organisations: in this case, l'Association Spirituelle de l'Eglise de la Scientologie CC (ASES), or the Celebrity Centre.

    ASES was convicted at the original trial of organised fraud. Eric Roux, a leading Scientologist in France, appeared to speak for ASES at that trial -- he himself was not in anyway implicated in the offences being tried. In court today Morice, after hearing the appeal judge summarise the charges against ASES and how it had defended itself at the original trial, said he wanted to raise a point of form.

    He reminded the court that earlier in the current proceedings, the defence lawyer had tried to get the court to throw out UNADFI's request to be granted the status of partie civile -- injured party or plaintiff -- at the trial. Among a number of objections raised, one was that UNADFI President Catherine Picard, had not been properly mandated to act in court as UNADFI's representative. That, said Morice, had prompted him to check the paperwork regarding Eric Roux's standing in the appeal trial.

    He now suggested to the court that the relevant paperwork in which the appeal had been lodged had not been properly formulated: that it had been filed in Roux's name when he had no standing to represent ASES at the trial on appeal. So while Roux had been mandated to represent ASES at the original trial, it was not at all clear to Morice that he had been granted the same powers to do the same on appeal. If there was such a mandate in the files, he was not he had seen it, he said.

    Morice made it clear that it was the reasoning of his colleagues on the defence side that had got him thinking along these lines. So after several days of procedural arguments brought by the defence, Morice now appears to have take a leaf out of their book.

    Hugues Woirhaye, for the prosecution, seemed a little taken aback by this development, but agreed that if the application had not been made out in the required manner then that could indeed pose a serious problem.

    The court will now look through the dossier to see if it can find the required document mandating Roux in the correct manner. If it is not there, then the appeal, for ASES at least, was not filed properly and so does not legally exist: that would mean the original judgement and conviction -- so far as ASES is concerned -- becomes definitive. ASES could not go to the supreme court (the Cour de Cassation) because they did not fulfil the procedural requirements at the appeal stage.

    Earlier Tuesday, Catherine Picard, president of UNADFI gave evidence, as she had at the original trial. The main aim was to answer some of the procedural objections brought by the defence lawyers before their walk-out last week, of which more perhaps at a later date.

    The court then continued to consider the evidence before, with the president of the court reading out key extracts from the previous trial, the defendants' interviews with investigators and key passages from the experts' reports. Olivier Saumon, for the National Council for the Order of Pharmacists, set out their case for the charges relating to the illegal practice of pharmacy.



Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 24, 2011, 08:43:09 AM
Photos of the Scientologists picketing outside the court in France.

Ready made banners. They actually should read. "I will do what Scientology tells me to do."

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?23207-France-Scientology-appeal-trial-Nov.-3-Dec.-1-2011/page4


Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on December 22, 2011, 07:27:34 PM
                          The appeal trial: preparing the ground

Even before its appeal opened, Scientology fought back against the 2009 fraud convictions with accusations of judicial bias and suggestions of political pressure.

There was a lot of talk during Scientology’s 2009 Paris trial for fraud and the illegal practice of pharmacy about the preserving the serenity of the debate.

Legal proceedings are in theory meant to shine a light on the events in question: the heat of vigorous debate, past a certain point, becomes counter-productive.

And yet, periodically, the proceedings would descend into bitter exchanges between the battery of defence lawyers and Maître Olivier Morice, the lawyer for one of the plaintiffs.

Maître Patrick Maisonneuve, the lawyer for Scientology’s Paris Celebrity Centre (l’Association spirituelle de l'Eglise de Scientologie (ASES)), had a particularly sharp turn of phrase. The defence’s star performer, his provocative asides had a combustible effect on Morice, who refused to let certain remarks pass unchallenged.

President of the Court, Judge Sophie-Hélène Château, was repeatedly obliged to intervene as Morice, Maisonneuve and various others members of the defence team exercised their considerable vocabularies on each other.

Eventually, the lawyers would recover their composure. They would wax lyrical about the dignity of the court, the need for serenity in the proceedings: then, within minutes, hours – a day perhaps at most – they would be at it again.

Finally however the trial was completed, the verdict announced and the sentences handed down en bonne et du forme: by the book – or so it seemed at the time.

Two years later however, as the trial on appeal approached, the defence was challenging not just the original judgment but also with the general climate in which the appeal would be taking place.

Already in June 2011, four months before the appeal proceedings were due to start, they had announced they were suing the French state for a million euros over a controversy that had its roots in the original trial.

Lead prosecutor Maud Morel-Coujard had called for the dissolution of the two Scientology organisations on trial, relying on a law that provided for this penalty in the case of an organisation found guilty of organised fraud.

The problem was that this particular penalty no longer existed: just weeks before the start of the trial, the law in question had been modified.

The crucial article of the criminal code was deleted on May 12, part of a complex batch of amendments to the law that deputies had voted through – which is why it initially went unnoticed by most observers.
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News of the change only broke in September 2009 – three months after the prosecutors had delivered their closing speech and several weeks before the judgment was due.

The revelation provoked an outraged response not just from Scientology’s critics but from two unions representing the legal profession: for some, there was more than a whiff of conspiracy in the air.

Government spokesmen insisted the change was nothing more than a mistake and the article in question was quickly reinstated. But that was too late for it to be applied in this trial.

Whatever had happened – however it had come to pass – most observers had concluded that the immediate beneficiary had been Scientology. But in the lawsuit they filed against the French state, Scientology portrayed itself as the injured party.

In its statement announcing the action, it recalled that the original position of the prosecutor’s office – after an eight-year investigation – had been that there was no case to answer.

An Scientology spokesman said that with the trial producing nothing new in what was already an empty dossier, “… a prosecutor takes it upon herself to call for an illegal penalty, pulled out of the hat, in total contradiction with the written conclusions of the prosecutor.

“I have strong doubts as to her impartiality…,” the unnamed spokesman added.[1]

This was laying it on a bit thick.

Cui bono?

It was certainly true that the initial position of the prosecutor’s office had been that there was no case to answer. But the investigating magistrate had thought differently – as was his right – and it was he who had drawn up the charges and sent them for trial.

Similarly, the trial prosecutors – Coujard, assisted by colleague Nicolas Baïetto – were perfectly at liberty to take their own view of the affair. And it quickly became clear that they did not share their colleague’s position.

Coujard’s call for the two Scientology associations on trial to be dissolved had made headline news at the time – headlines that certainly made uncomfortable reading for the movement.

Now they were accusing her of “faute lourde … erreur grossière” – in effect, serious misconduct. And since the law did not allow them to go after her personally, they were pursuing the state to get satisfaction.

But Coujard had recommended the use of a penalty which, until just a few weeks before the trial, had been a legitimate part of the legal arsenal at her disposal. If she had been caught out by the change to the law, she was far from being the only one.

There was no conceivable advantage to the prosecutor in calling for a penalty that no longer existed. The whole affair had, to put it mildly, been an embarrassment for them.

To question her professional integrity then was, to put it mildly, disingenuous. Indeed, if it was a question of cui bono – who had benefitted most from this fiasco – for most observers the answer was clearly Scientology.

Soon after the news broke in September 2009, the French news weekly Le Point reported that Scientology had known about the change in the law at a very early stage.

Le Point quoted a July 2009 email exchange between William C. Walsh, one of Scientology’s US lawyers, and a journalist from the Wall Street Journal. In it, Walsh had pointed out the crucial change in the law missed by the prosecutors.

Walsh said he had been informed of the change in the law just after the prosecutors had made their closing argument calling for dissolution.

So, as the magazine put it in its headline: “Scientology knew it was untouchable”.[2]

Maisonneuve himself told Le Point that a colleague had spotted the change in the law even before the prosecutors had presented their closing arguments.

Asked why he hadn’t dropped this bombshell when the prosecutors had called for the now non-existent penalty to be applied, he pointed out that they had been calling for an acquittal, not pleading mitigation.

“We didn’t want to make any publicity until the judgment,” he added.

Maisonneuve dismissed as “grotesque” any suggestion that Scientology might somehow have had a hand in getting the law changed.

Scientology’s June 2011 statement made much the same point, if in rather more extravagant terms: they had had as much to do with this change in the law as the Christians did with the great fire of Rome in AD 64, they declared.[3]

Far being beneficiaries of this fiasco then, the Scientologists presented themselves as victims of the political and media storm the controversy had generated.

This fevered, uninformed speculation had poisoned the atmosphere against the movement to such an extent that it was impossible for the movement to get a fair trial, they argued. [4]

'Political pressure'

A few weeks before the appeal was due to start Scientology produced what they said was fresh evidence to support their case that the dice were being loaded against them.

This time the culprit was a justice ministry circular, published in September, on “…vigilance and the struggle against cult-like tendencies”.[5]

The five-page circular, addressed to prosecutors and judges, was a review of the legal territory regarding cults – and a reminder of the legal remedies available to the courts.

It listed several offences the courts should be aware of in the context of cults, including fraud, abuse of confidence, extortion and manslaughter.[6]

The document made no mention of Scientology.

But for Scientology, preparing to appeal organised fraud convictions against two of its main organisations in France, this was too close to home.

The movement denounced the document as an attempt by the executive to tip the scales of justice against them.

In a statement issued on November 3 – just a few days before the trial was due to start – they announced that they had requested the case be pushed back in the calendar to ensure the court’s independence.

The ministry circular had “pre-condemned the Church, without naming it,” the statement said.[7]

Scientology blamed the circular Miviludes, the government’s watchdog on cult abuses, attached to the prime minister’s office.

The executive arm of the state was trying to interfere with the judicial process, Scientology argued: the serenity of judicial proceedings had been violated.

“For the defence lawyers, the court cannot serenely examine the case under such executive pressure, brought about by Miviludes,” the statement said. [8]

The pressure from the executive, said Maître Gérard Ducrey for Scientology, threatened to “…throw to the lions the men and women whose only wrong is to have dedicated themselves to a faith of which Miviludes disapproves.”

Scientology vowed to expose both the emptiness of the case against it and the executive pressure designed to shore up the “incoherence” of the charges against it.[9]

In the event, the trial went ahead as originally scheduled – and at no point did the defence even attempt to address the substance of the prosecution case.

http://infinitecomplacency.blogspot.com/2011/12/appeal-trial-preparing-ground.html


Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 02, 2012, 06:48:12 PM
                                French court to rule in Scientology appeal
 
Published on Feb 2, 2012

 
PARIS (AFP) - A Paris court is to rule on Thursday in an appeal against a fine of hundreds of thousands of euros imposed on the Church of Scientology after it was found guilty of fleecing vulnerable followers.

A 2009 fraud conviction saw Scientology's Celebrity Centre and its bookshop in Paris, the two branches of its French operations, ordered to pay 600,000 euros (S$986,551) in fines for preying financially on several followers in the 1990s.

The original ruling, while stopping short of banning the group from operating in France, dealt a blow to the movement best known for its Hollywood followers such as Tom Cruise and John Travolta.

Alain Rosenberg, the French leader of the movement, was handed a two-year suspended jail sentence and fined 30,000 euros on the same charge of fraud.
 
http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/World/Story/STIStory_762177.html

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gwtWz_83MU3nuVdXSNrURSz_aveA?docId%3DCNG.fb962feea373c177fa8b0366a1e124f3.291

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/scientology-in-dock-in-france/story-e6frg6so-1226260885671


Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 02, 2012, 10:17:01 PM
                               French court upholds Scientology fraud conviction

A French appeals court on Thursday upheld the Church of Scientology's 2009 fraud conviction on charges it pressured members into paying large sums for questionable remedies.

By PIERRE-ANTOINE SOUCHARD

Associated Press

PARIS —

A French appeals court on Thursday upheld the Church of Scientology's 2009 fraud conviction on charges it pressured members into paying large sums for questionable remedies.

The case began with a legal complaint by a young woman who said she took out loans and spent the equivalent of euro21,000 ($28,000) on books, courses and "purification packages" after being recruited in 1998. When she sought reimbursement and to leave the group, its leadership refused to allow either. She was among three eventual plaintiffs.

Karin Pouw, a spokeswoman for the church in Los Angeles, denounced Thursday's decision, calling it a "miscarriage of justice."

She said the group would appeal the decision to the Court of Cassation and plans to bring a complaint to the European Court of Human Rights. Another complaint in pending with a U.N. special rapporteur.

During the appeals process, the prosecution had asked for the church to be fined at least euro1 million ($1.3 million) and its bookstore euro500,000. But the appeals court on Thursday instead ordered the same fines as the trial court, euro400,000 ($530,000) for the church and euro200,000 for its bookstore.

In the original trial, prosecutors had tried to get the group disbanded in France, but the court declined even to take the lesser step of shutting down its operations, saying that French Scientologists would have continued their activities anyway.

"The environment in the court was so prejudicial that defense attorneys walked out of the proceedings in protest, refusing as a matter of conscience to participate in proceedings that had degenerated into a charade," Pouw said by phone.

While Scientology is recognized as a religion in the U.S., Sweden and Spain, it is not considered one under French law.

Founded in 1954 by science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard, the church teaches that technology can expand the mind and help solve problems. It claims 10 million members around the world, including celebrity devotees Tom Cruise and John Travolta.

Belgium, Germany and other European countries have been criticized by the U.S. State Department for labeling Scientology as a cult or sect and enacting laws to restrict its operations.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2017399020_apeufrancescientology.html?syndication=rss

"Suck on that Miscavige."

http://infinitecomplacency.blogspot.co.nz/


Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 03, 2012, 07:33:51 AM
       French court upholds Scientology fraud conviction – CBS News


Thu, Feb 2, 2012 — Feed: Google News

The world had almost forgotten that Scientology was convicted for Fraud in France.
But in a Public relations disaster masterstroke, Scientology came back to remind everyone.


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Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 05, 2012, 10:40:10 PM
                                Scientology in France: Still Guilty of Fraud

By Tony Ortega Thu., Feb. 2 2012

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/02/scientology_in_4.php


Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 08, 2012, 12:05:07 PM
                      France: Gloria Lopez suicide investigation reported discontinued

    Translation of a French article posted on Feb. 7, 2012 on the maville.com website:
    http://www.paris.maville.com/actu/actudet_-Une-enquete-sur-le-suicide-d-une-adepte-de-la-Scientologie-classee-sans-suite_fil-2098969_actu.Htm
    February 7, 2012

    (AFP) A preliminary investigation into the 2006 suicide of a follower of the Church of Scientology in Colombes (Hauts-de-Seine) was discontinued last June, said a judicial source on Tuesday.

    According to this source, the investigation did not succeed in building a case to prosecute the Church of Scientology, against which a complaint was filed by the children of the deceased woman in October 2008.

    Her children reported the matter to judicial authorities because they believe that debts incurred by their mother due to her involvement with Scientology were what led her to take her life.

    Her family's suspicions began after the discovery in her home of letters and documents referring to a litany of expenditures and debts for the benefit of the Church of Scientology.

    On December 21, 2006, Gloria Lopez, who had been a member of the Church of Scientology for ten years, ended her life at age 47 by letting herself be hit by a train at the Colombes station.

    Scientology, which has been classified as a cult by several parliamentary reports in France, was founded in 1954 by American science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard and is considered a religion in the United States and in some European countries. It claims to have more than 10 million followers worldwide and 45,000 in France.

    The two principal Scientology entities in France - the Celebrity Centre and its SEL bookstore - saw their conviction for "organized fraud" confirmed on February 2 by the court of appeal, a decision that constitutes a first in France and has been described as "historic" by opponents of the Church.



Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 09, 2012, 08:49:52 PM
                        Arnaud Palisson vindicated by Scientology's fraud conviction in France

    Arnaud Palisson, a police officer who monitored cults for France's domestic intelligence agency, obtained a Doctor of Law degree in 1982 and the subject of his doctoral thesis was how the Church of Scientology violates the law. After the thesis was posted on the internet, Scientology and its lawyers complained to the French government, and Palisson's superiors eventually ordered him to remove the thesis or face re-assignment. Palisson refused to take the thesis offline and he later relocated to Canada, where he currently lives.

    In a February 7, 2012 blog post, Arnaud Palisson writes that the Paris court of appeal's February 2 decision confirming Scientology's organized fraud conviction vindicates the stand he took ten years ago. Here is a translation:

    10 ans après, ma thèse sur la Scientologie est confirmée par la Cour d’appel de Paris
    ou La revanche du paria du renseignement sur la haute administration française

    Ten years later, my thesis about Scientology is confirmed by the Paris court of appeal
    or
    Revenge of the pariah of the intelligence community over top French officials

    http://media.linkedin.com/mpr/pub/im...d-palisson.jpg

    by Arnaud Palisson, February 7, 2012
    (unofficial translation)

    Last Thursday, February 2, 2012, the Paris court of appeal upheld a decision of the correctional court and convicted two Parisian Scientology entities as legal persons for fraud, aggravated by the fact that the offenses constituted organized fraud, committed by using a personality test to fraudulently persuade victims to purchase Scientology goods and services. The court issued fines totaling 600,000 euros - nearly one million Canadian dollars. This is the most severe penalty ever imposed for fraud against an organization in France.

    Exactly ten years (and a few hours) ago, on February 1, 2002, at Cergy-Pontoise University, I defended my doctoral thesis in criminal law, which was devoted to the Church of Scientology. Using only open sources, I argued that it is necessary to:

        prosecute Scientology organizations in France, in particular for organized fraud, aggravated by the fact that the offenses constitute organized fraud

    and

        systematically seek to establish the criminal liability of the legal person involved

    in particular, because of the use of the personality test to fraudulently persuade victims to purchase Scientology products and services.

    At that time, I was a police officer in the Central Directorate of General Information (DCRG - now DCRI). I worked as an intelligence analyst responsible for monitoring cults at the national level. In October 2002, I presented a 3-hour lecture about the Church of Scientology before a hundred or so French and foreign judges, diplomats, and military and police officials at the National Magistrates School (ENM) in Paris.

    On this occasion, I gave copies of my thesis to two judges. One was Belgian and he was investigating an important Scientology case; the other was French and she was investigating the huge Church of Scientology-Paris Celebrity Centre case (the same case that ended last week at the court of appeal).

    From that point on, my thesis never left the desk of the two judges. It also landed on the desk of a Swiss judge a few months later.

    Despite the succession of judges that investigated the case of the Paris Celebrity Centre, my thesis remained the key legal reference document. The investigation, which began in 1999 in a traditional manner, underwent a strategic change of direction in the light of my university work. Gradually, the investigating judges:

        used the internal terminology of the Church of Scientology, as I recommended,
        looked into the real functions detailed in the organization chart that I provided,
        focused mainly on the criminal charge that I advocated, namely fraud, aggravated by the fact that the offenses constitute organized fraud,
        sought to establish, as I advocated, the criminal liability of legal persons.

    My thesis was known only to a few persons, but it became public on November 13, 2002, when Le Figaro published a full-page article about it by Christophe Cornevin. On the same day, my thesis was posted in full on the internet - via the website of Roger Gonnet, former head of the Church of Scientology of Lyon, who became the cult's chief opponent in France.

    Scientology's Parisian officials are usually well informed, but they did not see any of this coming.

    Nevertheless, Scientology reacted speedily and with some effectiveness. The following month, the Church, through its lawyers, officially asked the Minister of Education to revoke my Doctor of Law degree. The organization said that my work was partisan and devoid of objectivity or of any scientific methodology. However, Scientology did not obtain any response from the Ministry of Education.

    When the Church of Scientology learned that the Swiss publisher Favre was preparing a version of my thesis for the general public, it approached Pierre-Marcel Favre and urged him to abandon the project, at the same time providing a disingenuous analysis of my thesis. This second attempt also failed.

    (Note: I posted on the internet a long and scathing refutation of the arguments put forward in the two documents just mentioned.)

    Paradoxically, it is when the Scientology organization, out of desperation, turned to the Ministry of the Interior that it achieved some success.

    In April 2003, lawyers for the Church of Scientology in Paris contacted the office of then Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy. They requested that my doctoral thesis be withdrawn from the internet. They found a sympathetic ear in the person of the chief of staff, Claude Guéant (who today is Interior Minister).

    In keeping with the principle of administrative dominoes, a directive from the chief of staff then percolated down to me. My director told me, in substance:: "Either you withdraw your thesis from the internet or you leave the Cults and Sects group."

    My thesis stayed put, but not me.

    A month later, my book appeared in bookstores. I became a sort of pariah, a civil servant that no one knew what to do with.

    While I was packing my boxes to leave for an assignment at the newly created MIVILUDES (Interministerial Mission of Vigilance and Combat against Sectarian Abuses), I suddenly got radio silence. The president of MIVILUDES, Jean-Louis Langlais, did not even take the trouble to call me on the phone to tell me that my transfer was canceled.

    In the meantime, lawyers for the Church of Scientology put pressure on the director of the National Magistrates School. The training center on Île de la Cité was placed off-limits to me. My successor there was journalist Serge Faubert, who has a very deep understanding of the Scientology organization and who wrote what today remains an essential investigative book about it. And to the judges who asked him where to look for legal references about Scientology, Serge Faubert (I thank him for this) answered by showing them my book!

    After spending a few months on the sidelines in another group at the DCRG, I asked for and obtained a transfer to the other end of the corridor, to an anti-terrorist section. I stayed there two and a half years.

    Ultimately, my thesis did find favor in the eyes of a handful of investigating judges in Europe. My adventures are told in part by an article in Charlie-Hebdo and a documentary that aired on Canal+. But, for the policeman that I am, something is seriously wrong:

        I was dumped by my superiors - who earlier had hired me for my specialization.
        The Interior Ministry officially portrayed me as a partisan civil servant.
        MIVILUDES suddenly forgot my very existence.
        The professional training center for judges slammed the door in my face, as it would to a hard-core delinquent.

    But last Thursday, exactly ten years after I defended my thesis, the Paris court of appeal delivered a slap in the face to all those civil servants who only carried out orders: I was right.

    Let there be no mistake. I am neither bitter nor vengeful. Given the way that MIVILUDES evolved, I know I would not have lasted two months there. Moreover, with Claude Guéant as head of the Interior Ministry, my career progression would have suffered.

    Finally, my administrative setbacks are in large part what led me to go to Canada to see if the grass is greener there. And this undeniably is the case.

    In other words [as Edith Piaf sang]: Non, rien de rien. Non, je ne regrette rien.
    ["No, nothing at all. / No, I regret nothing."]

    But 5,500 kilometers from Paris, an ocean away and 10 years later, please permit me to exult.

Links here...

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?26217-Arnaud-Palisson-vindicated-by-Scientology-s-fraud-conviction-in-France


Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 17, 2012, 10:49:20 AM
                                       Conviction Upheld On Scientology
Claimed It Defrauded Members
by Pierre-Antoine Souchard

(AP) A French appeals court last Thursday upheld the Church of Scientology's 2009 fraud conviction on charges it pressured members into paying large sums for questionable remedies.

The case began with a legal complaint by a young woman who said she took out loans and spent the equivalent of (euro) 21,000 ($28,000) on books, courses and “purification packages” after being recruited in 1998. When she sought reimbursement and to leave the group, its leadership refused to allow either. She was among three eventual plaintiffs.

“It's a severe defeat for the Church of Scientology, which is hit at the very heart of its organization in France,” Olivier Morice, a lawyer for the National Union of Associations Defending Family and Individual Victims of Sects, told reporters after the decision.

Karin Pouw, a spokeswoman for the church in Los Angeles, de- nounced last Thursday's decision, calling it a “miscarriage of justice.”

She said the group would appeal the decision to the Court of Cassation and plans to bring a complaint to the European Court of Human Rights. Another complaint is pending with a U.N. special rapporteur.

About 50 Scientologists—holding signs saying “No to a heresy trial” and “No to justice under pressure” — protested outside the Paris court hours after the decision.

During the appeals process, the prosecution had asked for the church to be fined at least (euro) 1 million ($1.3 million) and its bookstore (euro) 500,000. But the appeals court on Thursday instead ordered the same fines as the trial court, (euro) 400,000 ($530,000) for the church and (euro) 200,000 for its bookstore.

Five members of the church who were convicted in the first trial were ordered to pay fines ranging from (euro) 10,000 to (euro) 30,000. Four of them were also given suspended sentences between 18 months and two years.

In the original trial, prosecutors had tried to get the group disbanded in France, but the court declined even to take the lesser step of shutting down its operations, saying that French Scientologists would have continued their activities anyway.

Pouw said Thursday that the church was continuing its missions without any restrictions.

“The environment in the court was so prejudicial that defense attorneys walked out of the proceedings in protest, refusing as a matter of conscience to participate in proceedings that had degenerated into a charade,” she said by phone.

While Scientology is recognized as a religion in the U.S., Sweden and Spain, it is not considered one under French law.

Founded in 1954 by science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard, the church teaches that technology can expand the mind and help solve problems. It claims 10 million members around the world, including celebrity devotees Tom Cruise and John Travolta.

Belgium and Germany have been criticized by the U.S. State Department for labeling Scientology as a cult or sect and enacting laws to restrict its operations. France also considers Scientology a sect.

http://www.timesnewsweekly.com/news/2012-02-09/Feature_Stories/Conviction_Upheld_On_Scientology.html


Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 23, 2012, 02:33:53 PM
         Translation of a French article posted on Feb. 22, 2012 on the website of the weekly Swiss magazine L'illustré:   Out on 22 nd Feb 2012



                            TWELVE YEARS OF HELL

GENEVAN WOMAN HELD AGAINST HER WILL BY SCIENTOLOGY

By convicting Scientology of organised fraud early in February, the Paris court of appeal indirectly sent a strong signal to 34-year-old Valeska Paris, a former Scientology member who now lives in Sydney. She was held against her will beginning at the age of 18 on the "Freewinds", the pride of the Scientology fleet. It was an odyssey to the edge of madness.

by Blaise Calame
L'Illustré
February 22, 2012


"I was subjected to brainwashing for the first 29 years of my life. I had to readapt myself to the world. Women of my age had an adolescence and they've had romances. Not me." The story of Valeska Paris, a 34-year-old Genevan woman, is chilling. She was caught in a trap by Scientology long before the age of reason and today she is trying to rebuild her life in Sydney, where she works in event management.

Valeska was born in Meyrin (Canton of Geneva) on December 12, 1977. "I remember that we lived near the French border," she says, during a telephone interview. Jean-François Paris, her father is French, and Arianne, her mother, Swiss. The couple had three children, Valeska being the eldest. Her sister Melissa was born in 1979 and her brother Raphaël in 1982. They were a Scientology family.

The Genevan childhood of the Paris siblings came to an end with the divorce of their parents. Valeska was only 6 years old. The father, who obtained custody of the children, joined the Sea Organisation, a sort of Scientology elite, in East Grinstead, England.

The children were boarded in the Cadet Organisation, where education consists chiefly of scrubbing floors and cleaning toilets. According to Scientology, every human being has lived thousands of lives over the centuries; a person's spirit, called a "thetan", is imbued with that experience. A child is thus a synthesis of multiple prior existences. Scientology is not for people who don't take such things seriously.

STEP-FATHER'S SUICIDE

Although they were divorced, both parents remained inside the cult. Valeska's mother, Arianne, remarried a Frenchman, Albert Jaquier, a former scrap metal dealer who built up a veritable fortune that he soon dilapidated by spending it on Scientology, before committing suicide in December 1994. The indifference and contempt displayed by the cult drove his widow to denounce the nefarious organisation on the TF1 television channel, a move that cost her children dearly. For Scientologists, Valeska's mother had become a pariah, or a "suppressive person". That year, Valeska saw her mother for the last time in what turned out to be a very long time. At age 14, Valeska was forced to sign a contract binding her to the cult "for a billion years" (sic)!

Valeska was transferred to the Flag Land Base, the headquarters of the Sea Org, in Clearwater, Florida, where she was assigned to serve Scientology's leader, David Miscavige, an American.

In September 1996, when Valeska was 18, Miscavige sent her to his flagship, the Freewinds, which cruises the Caribbean. "They woke me up one morning and I left," she says, "for what was supposed to be two weeks ..." She remained on the ship twelve years, unable to contact her family and with no visits allowed.

"The first time I went aboard," says she, "I hated it. I immediately wanted to leave, but my passport had been confiscated and we were under surveillance twenty-four hours a day. It was impossible to escape. I gave up." Any form of misconduct was severely punished. The engine room, with its noisy furnace, served as a jail cell, and Valeska Paris often found herself confined there ...

The most advanced Scientologists visit the ship for a spiritual training session called "Operating Thetan Level 8" or OT VIII - a course that costs $8,000. Every month of June, there is a Maiden Voyage, an annual commemorative cruise, that attracts flocks of followers. Valeska Paris remembers, in particular, a surreal visit by Tom Cruise (see sidebar).

MARRIED TO A GHOST

On May 9, 1998, Valeska married Roberto Toppi, a member of the Italian Sea Org, but he turned into a real ghost. "During seven years of marriage, we spent less than ten months together," sighs Valeska. Their divorce took place in 2005.

On the Freewinds, the Genevan was exploited for 50 dollars a week. She began in 1996 as a waitress. Six years later, she became an auditor and an instructor. "I was stuck in a trap," she says. "That was the only life I knew. I was taught that Scientology was the only answer and I had no reason to doubt it." Indoctrination is perverse.

However, she saw people having breakdowns. Other persons who were once held up as models would suddenly become stigmatised. David Miscavige behaved like a tyrant. In 2007, during one of her confinements to the engine room, Valeska Paris lost consciousness and nearly died.

As Valeska approached the age of 30, she developed a single ambition: to escape. She was considered dangerous because of her unpredictable behaviour. This made her a perfect candidate for Scientology's re-education camp or, in Scientology jargon, the Rehabilitation Project Force (RPF), which is located in Sydney. "Sea Org officials decided my fate," she says, "but I didn't care, as long as I could get off the damn ship." The organisation required that she accept the assignment in writing. She consented.

A RAIN OF REPRISALS

In the RPF, in Sydney, Valeska met Chris Guider, a Scientologist who had also been sentenced there. He became her second husband on March 23, 2009. A son, Declan, was born on July 22, 2010. In late August 2009, before their son's birth, the couple broke away completely from Scientology. Valeska Paris signed confidentiality agreements, but this did not stop her from speaking out.

The response was a rain of reprisals. While she was pregnant with Declan, Valeska received messages of insults from her father and her brother, both of whom, unlike her sister Melissa, remained Scientologists, her father in Chicago, her brother in Los Angeles. Valeska managed to re-establish contact with her younger sister and, especially, with her mother, Arianne, whom she had not seen for fifteen years.

In Australia, Valeska is rebuilding her life. She is even expecting a second child. Her best weapon against the Church of Scientology, which has tried to silence her by sending her threatening letters, is her testimony. Valeska Paris Guider no longer allows herself to be intimidated: "I don't think I will ever be sued, because I have enough to implicate David Miscavige in person, and Scientology will never take the risk of exposing him to a court."
Sidebar

WHEN TOM CRUISE IS ABOARD ...

Tom Cruise is Scientology's number two.

In June 2004. all hands were on combat alert aboard the Freewinds, where Tom Cruise chose to celebrate his 42nd birthday on July 3. The staff was briefed. "Asking for an autograph was totally forbidden and would be punished," remembers Valeska Paris. No familiarity toward the star would be allowed either: he had to be addressed as "Sir".

Just before D-Day, Valeska developed a cold sore. This was an "offence" equivalent to "treason", and Valeska was quarantined. However, leader David Miscavige insisted on having Valeska serve the actor and his girlfriend, Penelope Cruz.

In violation of all ship rules prohibiting any intimacy on board, the couple occupied the most beautiful cabin. A private yacht took them scuba diving. All for free! "A Chinese chef was even specially brought in from New York to cook for Tom Cruise, who was on a diet," says Valeska.

To cater to the movie idol's narcissism, "the ship was decorated with giant posters from all his movies, except for those with Nicole Kidman [who is anti-Scientology (Editor's note)] and, during the party, the orchestra played songs from these movies." A delusional personality cult.

http://www.illustre.ch/scientologie-Valeska-Paris-Free-winds-secte-sequestration_149000_.html


Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 28, 2012, 11:43:20 AM
                       The Yeshiva world news

                        French Court Upholds Fraud Conviction Against Scientology

(Monday, February 27th, 2012)

An appeals court in Paris upheld fraud convictions involving two central organizations connected to the Scientology Church in France.

The Celebrity Center was fined 400,000 euro and the Spiritual Association of the Church of Scientology (ASES), an affiliated bookstore, was fined 200,000 euro for their role in the fraud.

In addition, five senior Scientology officials, including Alain Rosenberg, the president, were convicted of fraud and deception and given heavy fines as well as suspended prison sentences. Rosenberg was fined 30,000 euro and given a two-year suspended sentence.
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The Church of Scientology was convicted of fraud in a lower court in 2009. The case followed complaints filed by two former church members, who said they had been cheated out of money by the organization. One of them said she had given 21,000 euro to the organization. After leaving the group, she asked to be reimbursed, but the Church of Scientology refused, she told the court.

This isn’t the first time fraud charges were brought against the cult. Scientology, founded in the 1950s by science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard, immediately drew harsh criticism. The main charge is that it makes exaggerated demands of money from its members and uses a variety of means to exercise undue influence over them.

Scientology, which is known as “the wealthiest cult in the world,” received the status of a religion in the United States and in several European countries. However, in the late 1990s, state commissions of inquiry in France and Belgium determined that it is a cult. (A Belgian prosecutor, Jean-Claude Van Espen, who studied the church’s activities for 10 years, went so far as to ask that it be classified a criminal organization.)

Government reports in Austria, Germany, Switzerland and Israel have similarly determined that Scientology is a cult.

The French appeals court confirmed that Scientology is a fraud. It accepted the testimonies of former cult members who described how they had been cheated of huge sums of money.

It also heard testimony from representatives of the National Union of Associations Defending Family and Individual Victims of Sects, who described the devastating effects of membership in the Scientology cult: debts, financial ruin, broken families, and a general feeling of being enslaved. The situation is a direct result of the “cult tactics” that Scientology employs on vulnerable people, representatives said.

French jurists noted that the ruling is a precedent in that it convicts the church itself of fraud, not just its leaders. Observers are now waiting to see whether the ruling will lead to a ban of the cult and an end to its activities.

Yad L’Achim, which has led the battle against cults in Israel, applauded the ruling. In recent years, Yad L’Achim conducted a campaign that helped close two of the cult’s centers in Jerusalem and has brought its sole school in Israel, located in Yehud-Monsoon, to be on the verge of closing.

Despite these successes, Yad L’Achim officials stress that the cult is very active in Tel Aviv, Haifa and other cities. According to Yad L’Achim’s information, thousands of Israelis participate regularly in cult activities.

“We will continue to act to heighten awareness of the danger, to awaken people to the cult’s fraud and deception, and to hope that the court ruling in France will put brakes on the cult worldwide,” an official said this week.

(YWN World Headquarters – NYC)

http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/General%2BNews/119430/French-Court-Upholds-Fraud-Conviction-Against-Scientology.html


Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 02, 2012, 02:42:19 PM
                                    Church Of Scientology Ordered To Pay $789K

Posted by ThirdAge Staff on March 1, 2012

The Church of Scientology in France was ordered Thursday by an appeals court to pay nearly $789,000 for unfairly taking money from followers.

The appeals court, which confirmed a 2009 fraud conviction, also upheld a fine of about $39,000 and a two-year suspended jail sentence for Scientology movement leader Alain Rosenberg and upheld or increased fines, now about $13,000-$39,000, against five other Scientologists, Radio France Internationale reported.

But the church was not banned from operating in France.

The convictions were for fraud or illegal practice of pharmacy. Plaintiffs said they were given vitamins and concoctions the group said would improve their mental state.

"This is very good news for those who fight against cults and a serious defeat for the Church of Scientology," said Olivier Morice, lawyer for plaintiff Unadfi, a group that campaigns against sects.

France considers Scientology a cult or sect, not a religion, and has prosecuted individual members but 2009 marked the first time the Church of Scientology as a whole had been convicted.

http://www.thirdage.com/news/church-of-scientology-ordered-to-pay-789k_03-01-2012


Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 03, 2012, 05:23:10 PM
                      France: Scientologists protest against "the indoctrination of judges"

    Translation of a French article posted on May 2, 2012 on the website of Le Monde: plus photo

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?27050-France-Scientologists-protest-against-quot-the-indoctrination-of-judges-quot

Brief video

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xqjg36





Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 17, 2012, 10:35:12 AM
                            Administrative court rebuffs Scientology

by Julienne Guihard-Augendre
Wednesday, May 16, 2012

Reims (Marne). The administrative court has decided in favor of the City of Reims. Scientology, via its Éthique et Liberté association, will also have to pay the City 900 euros.

All that for this. Three years after the start of litigation initiated against the City of Reims by the Éthique et Liberté association, which publishes a magazine for the Church of Scientology, the administrative court in Châlons has put an end to this surrealistic exchange of unfriendly fire (reported in L'Union on April 12). In the decision it rendered yesterday, the court rejected the motion filed by Éthique et Liberté and it ordered Éthique et Liberté to pay the City of Reims 900 euros. This outcome appears logical, considering the facts surrounding the dispute, which all parties would have been better off avoiding.

What subsidies?

The case began in November 2008, when Éthique et Liberté asked City Hall to provide administrative documents concerning the National Union of Associations for the Defense of Families and the Individual (UNADFI), an organization that combats cults. The request concerned applications for subsidies for 2007 and 2008 by the UNADFI association in Reims, but also - strangely - by the Paris association. The request also asked for documents concerning the deliberations of the city council about these subsidies. Why this interest in UNADFI? "These people are constantly opposing us, so it is normal that we seek to understand their funding and their motivations," replied the communications service of the Paris Church of Scientology, as reported earlier. Catherine Picard, UNADFI's national president, expressed little surprise and said this was a very familiar strategy "to snipe at people involved in the fight against cults."

Nonexistent documents

Not receiving any answer from Reims City Hall, Éthique et Liberté began to see red and decided to file a complaint with the commission for access to administrative documents. The commission confirmed that the request was legal, as Éthique et Liberté knew very well because it habitually makes similar requests everywhere in France. With this ruling in hand, Éthique et Liberté then filed a complaint with the administrative court on April 11, 2009.

The legal jousting began and a key fact emerged: the City of Reims did not provide any documents for the simple reason that they do not exist. In other words, The UNADFI association in Reims does not receive any subsidy from the City. The legal proceedings should have ended at that stage, however the Scientology organization refused to pay the 900 euros that City Hall billed it to compensate for costs incurred. As a result, the litigation continued all the way to the end.

Regarding the heart of the matter, the argument that no subsidy had been granted to UNADFI in 2007 and 2008 was sufficient in the eyes of the court, which noted that "the refusal to provide nonexistent documents cannot, in any event, be construed as illegal."

For this and earlier article ...

http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=66491


Title: Re: Scientology on trial in France
Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 09, 2013, 10:24:22 PM
                          "We are indestructible," says Paris Scientology spokesman

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?30455-quot-We-are-indestructible-quot-says-Paris-Scientology-spokesman