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Post by: Ididntcomeback on July 31, 2009, 09:09:20 AM
The CIA Doesn’t Want You to Know about Tom Cruise’s Lobbying for Scientologists

I'm mostly amused by Steven Aftergood's report that the CIA refuses to release the PDB-related materials introduced at Scooter Libby's trial.

    Even though certain information concerning the President’s Daily Brief (PDB) was redacted and declassified for use in the prosecution of former vice presidential aide Scooter Libby in 2006, that same information is nonetheless “currently and properly classified,” the Central Intelligence Agency said (pdf) last week.  The Agency denied release of the material under the Freedom of Information Act.

    The existence of the declassified PDB material was disclosed in a January 9, 2006 letter (pdf) from Special Counsel Patrick J. Fitzgerald to Mr. Libby’s attorney.  He wrote:  “In response to our requests, we have received [from CIA] a very discrete amount of material relating to PDBs and discussions involving Mr. Libby and/or Vice President Cheney concerning or relating to the PDBs.  We have provided to Mr. Libby and his counsel (or are in the process of providing such documents consistent with the process of a declassification review) copies of any pages in our possession… in the redacted form in which we received them.”

    Since declassified PDBs are comparatively rare, we submitted a Freedom of Information Act request in February 2006 for a copy of the PDB-related material that was declassified by CIA for the Libby prosecution.  Last week, the CIA responded that it had located the requested material but that “we determined [it] is currently and properly classified and must be denied in its entirety.”

As Aftergood notes, two of the PDB-related tables of contents were introduced at the trial--Libby's briefing for June 14, 2003, and Cheney's briefing for July 14, 2003. Those tables of contents are prominently stamped "unclassified," but they're entirely redacted except for a few logistical notes and Libby briefer Craig Schmall's notes from those briefings, which are:

    * Why was the Amb told this was a VP office question? Joe Wilson Valerie Wilson (June 14)
    * Tom Cruise and Penelope Cruz at his office. (June 14)
    * Sensitive memo from DDCI] RETURN (June 14)
    * Senior intel official: someone in the sessions spoke directly to the press > press is calling Scooter directly -- he asked who he spoke to directly (June 14)
    * Did you read the Novak article? Not your problem. (July 14)

For some reason, the CIA refused to release these two highly-redacted PDB-related documents. I guess they don't want you to know that these top-secret briefing sessions include discussions of the private meetings that Scientologists get with the Vice President's Chief of Staff (Cruise and Cruz were lobbying Libby--as they had lobbied Ricard Armitage that same week--to pressure Germany about its treatment of Scientologists). Our culture of secrecy is protecting some really important secrets, I guess.

That said, just to piss off the CIA, here's what--according to Schmall's testimony--the June 14 PDB contained, in general form, along with the daily threat assessment. Libby lawyer and graymail artist John Cline led Schmall through this list in an attempt to introduce the memory defense without having to put Libby on the stand.

    Q   I want to take you through those topics and see if you can recall briefing Mr. Libby about them on that Saturday June 14th.  Now, all I want you to do, in answer to my question, is say yes, you recall or no, you don't recall.  I don't want you to expand, okay?
    A   Okay.  Recall briefing it on that day, sir, correct?
    Q   That's correct.  Do you recall briefing Mr. Libby on Saturday, June 14th, about a bomb that had been diffused near a western residential compound in Yemen?
    A   No, sir, I don't.
    Q   Do you recall briefing Mr. Libby about the police arresting an individual responsible for a terrorist bombing in a country that I can't identify?
    A   No, sir, I don't.
    Q   Do you recall briefing Mr. Libby about nearly simultaneous explosions in the capitol of a country?
    A   No, sir, I don't.
    Q   Do you recall briefing Mr. Libby about an East African extremist network?
    A   No, sir.
    Q   Do you recall briefing Mr. Libby about information on a possible Al-Qaeda attack in the United States?
    A   No, sir, I don't.
    Q   Do you recall briefing Mr. Libby about a concern involving a specific vulnerability to terrorist attacks?
    A   No, sir, I don't.
    Q   Do you recall briefing Mr. Libby about a proposed Middle East security plan?
    A   No, sir.
    Q   Do you recall briefing Mr. Libby about a country's security measures hampering Al-Qaeda's activities?
    A   No, sir.
    Q   How about an international organization's position concerning a country's nuclear program, do you recall briefing him on Saturday, June 14th?
    A   No, sir, I don't.
    Q   How about briefing Mr. Libby on the, that Iraq's porous borders present a security threat?
    A   No, sir.
    Q   How about violent demonstrations in Iran?
    A   No, sir.
    Q   Do you recall that you gave Mr. Libby briefings on a total of 27 items that day?
    A   I'm not aware of how many items were briefed that day.
    Q   Did you review the unredacted table of contents before you came over to testify?
    A   Yes, I had seen them before.
    Q   And based on your review of that unredacted table of contents, are you able to confirm for us that there were 27 items that you briefed Mr. Libby on that day?
    A   No, sir.  I really didn't pay that much attention to these specific items in the briefings.
    Q   You mean in preparing for your testimony?
    A   Yes, sir.
    Q   At the time you paid close attention?
    A   Absolutely, sir.
    Q   Because you knew this was very important stuff, right?
    A   Yes, sir.
    Q   Do you recall briefing Mr. Libby on June 14th on the challenge posed by Palestinian terrorist groups to improving relations between the Palestinian authorities and Israel?
    A   No, sir.
    Q   Do you recall that Mr. Libby requested that several items from the June 14, 2003, list, several of these articles that you gave him, be returned to him on June 16th?
    A   I don't recall that specifically.
    Q   That did happen from time to time, correct?
    A   Yes, sir.
    Q   You just don't recall what happened on this day?
    A   Not on June 14, no, sir.
    Q   Now, I've asked you about some of the inteligence articles that you briefed Mr. Libby about on Saturday, June 14th.  You don't recall any of them; right?
    A   That's correct, sir.
    Q   Now, I'm going to ask you about some of the items on that list of terrorist threats that we talked about before but can't name.  Are you familiar with what I'm talking about?
    A   Yes, sir.
    Q   Do you remember briefing Mr. Libby on Saturday, June 14, about the concern over possible suicide operations to highjacked aircraft at Al-Qaeda International Airport by a terrorist group with links to Al-Qaeda?
    A   No, sir, I don't.
    Q   Do you recall briefing Mr. Libby on Saturday, June 14th, about a concern about terrorists providing support to a planned terrorist operation or business transaction by Al-Qaeda?
    A   No, sir, I don't.
    Q   Do you remember briefing Mr. Libby on Saturday, June 14th, about potential suicide attacks against U.S. forces in Iraq by a terrorist group?
    A   No, sir.
    Q   Do you recall briefing Mr. Libby on Saturday, June 14th, about potential terrorist attacks at unspecified times against the U.S. Embassy and the British High Commission in Kenya?
    A   No, sir, I don't.
    Q   Do you recall, Mr. Schmall, that there were 11 pages of terrorist threats in that list that you gave him that day, Saturday, June 14th?
    A   It's not clear.  I'm not sure whether I actually gave it to him that day.  It wasn't listed on my table of contents. And there came a time when frankly we stopped putting that compilation in the briefing books.
    Q   I understand.  If it has been represented to us by the Agency that this was presented to him that day, would you agree with me that those items were in there or do you not recall?
    A   I don't recall, sir.
    Q   I take it you don't recall briefing Mr. Libby that an unspecified group was observed videotaping facilities near a U.S. university on Saturday, June 14th?
    A   No, sir, I don't.
    Q   That list of items that I've just run down for you, both the articles and the terrorist threats, I understand you don't recall anything that happened on June 14th in terms of what you briefed Mr. Libby on, correct?
    A   Yes, sir.
    Q   I gather, though, that those types of items, putting aside the question of when you stopped presenting the list of the terrorist items, those are the kinds of items that would be briefed to Mr. Libby six days a week, correct?
    A   Yes, sir.

There. I've just exposed highly classified PDB-related materials the CIA says cannot be released. Pretty impressive huh?

(I think admitting that our top CIA briefers are wasting time talking about Scientologists might be an even greater threat than releasing the information in the actual briefing document.)

Post by: Ididntcomeback on July 31, 2009, 09:12:36 AM
                                New site for ex scientologists

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 01, 2009, 01:48:36 PM
                                Scientology Attacks!
Mon, 2009-07-20 01:36 — gargy

OK, so that really isn't news. The Church of Scientology always attacks, has always attacked and, for as long as they can, will always attack. Since this is mandated by L. Ron Hubbard, they just have to do it.

So what?

Well, things are changing.

First, the attacks are much more narrow. David Miscavige has directed that the broad attacks cease and that his henchmen focus on major media and those individuals who have the greatest potential for damaging the church. Why? Because he is running out of money and, more importantly, personnel. He can no longer support the broad attacks of the past.
While this means the general critic community is seeing fewer attacks, it, unfortunately, means that a few major figures are seeing more.

Second, the attacks are becoming more vicious. It did appear that Miscavige had realized how his ill-conceived and poorly executed attacks were more damaging to the church than to his "enemies" -- and had started easing up on his criminal attacks. However, recent times have proven that, once again, Miscavige didn't learn at all.

And, once again, his attacks are, indeed, seriously damaging the church.

Attacking the media

As is standard Hubbard policy, Scientology has continued to attack any news outlet that dares report the truth about the Church of Scientology.
But things are different now. The news media isn't backing down out of fear anymore. They are reporting the attacks. And the attacks by Scientology are causing the news outlets to expand their exposés, dig deeper and report even more about the lies, crimes and threats by the Church of Scientology.
Only Scientology would think that viciously attacking news media outlets would result in positive articles.

Attacking big names

There are people who are no longer in Scientology who were very big names in the church, and who have never spoken out against Scientology -- but who are being viciously attacked by the church.

They are being attacked because, if they ever did speak out about what they know, the results would be devastating to Miscavige's church.

These big names do not wish to speak out and criticize anyone. They have many friends who are still in and do not wish to harm them. If left alone to get on with their lives, they would remain silent. But the Church of Scientology continues to viciously attack them, and continues to work very hard to control and destroy their lives.

Don't look for logic here, neither Scientology nor Miscavige are capable of thinking logically.

Only Miscavige would think that viciously attacking these people, who have done nothing, is the right thing to do. Eventually and inevitably Miscavige's attacks will result in exactly what he fears most.
(Private message to big names: While I respect your desire to not hurt your friends, you do have all the power, Miscavige has none. Please, write up everything you know, give it to a lawyer and then demand Miscavige stop all attacks against you and your family -- or you will release it. You have the power, please use it.)

Attacking critics

While the broad attacks by Scientology have abated, the focused attacks against prominent critics have increased.

But the reaction is different now.

The church's illegal activities, hacking, lies and attacks are being carefully documented. They are being reported. They are being investigated.

Before, police, government agencies and corporations couldn't believe that a church would do such things. But now they know it is true. They now know that the Church of Scientology does lie, does commit crimes, and these organizations are more than willing to investigate and report. We hope that, soon, there will be more criminal prosecutions.

Times have changed. And it is the Church of Scientology itself, that has caused these changes. By continuing, robotically, to attack and attack and attack "by any means possible", they have created a world-wide backlash and a broad awareness of how vicious and criminal they really are.

They have no one to blame but themselves.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 02, 2009, 12:42:34 PM
              Scientology’s Freewinds Cruise Ship Continues To Pollute Bonaire

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 02, 2009, 04:46:30 PM
          Scientologists behind Jackson’s marriage to Lisa Marie: book

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 04, 2009, 08:12:57 AM
                          What ever happened to ...

1. Jenny Linson is the daughter of Art Linson. She also was married to Tom Devocht. And yes, Art is a movie producer and produced Fight Club and a host of other great movies, Fast Times at Ridgemont High, Heat, Lords of Dogtown etc.

2. Pictures of SP hall people are old Only pic in the bunch which seems at all current is one of Angie Blankenship. She is in her mid 30's. (she is semi hot IRL) All other pix look top be old and were done at least 10 years ago as part of picture that were done for entire base. I have a picture against that same backdrop from years ago! They all would look like they were in their 60's at least and Angie would have split ends and bags under here eyes from David Miscavige's constant torture.

Fun facts about SP Hall People -

a. Dave Bloomberg's wife divorced him in order to stay in RTC. No one in RTC was allowed to be married to anybody outside of RTC for fear of infiltration and leaks. (All of RTC had to watch the movies Internal Affairs and No Way Out several times as well.)

b. Marc Yager's wife divorced him when Davis Miscavige told her that she was married to an SP and if she stayed married she would be an SP too. At least she got the car.

c. Mark Ingber's wife has been battling cancer for years and almost died due to mistreatment. Mark Ingber has been getting in trouble with David Miscavige for at least 15 years nonstop.

d. Norman Starkey's wife never gets to see him as she works directly for Dave Miscavige and since Norman is an SP, she has to be a hard ass with him when they do meet up and they are both miserable.

e. Ray Mithoff has been an SP for the longest at the Int Base and has been being treated like a dog for so long, Clifford is his hero. He can only wish that he was big enough to pop and squat and bury DM in a steamy pile of SP.

f. Greg Wilhere divorced his last wife Sandy to get the younger bustier Sue as his wife. Sandy then got MS and was moved to PAC so she could die off the Int Base. Greg's son Darius Wilhere was offloaded from the Int Base and moved to a Sea Org installation in Mexico where he was in a car accident and died. He was revived 11 minutes later by paramedics (where the hell was Tom Cruise) and is currently living in Mexico in constant pain due to sever back injuries and face lacerations. (Greg is also the guy that found Katie Holmes for Tom Cruise)

g. Angie Blankenship was a hot shit executive at Flag before arriving to the Int Base in 2003. It took her only a matter of months to become one of the Int Base SPs. Now she has a long celibate future to look forward to or she could marry one of the other old guys in the picture.

h. Guiliume Leserve has been ED Int for years. He cannot take a breath without David Miscavige telling him how he did it wrong. His wife Vanella was offloaded from the Int base years ago and lives in Europe. His children were also offloaded from the Int Base and not only never see him, but don't think they will ever again. He does not write them or call and has not been part of their life at all.

i. Lyman Spurlock has had to put up with David Miscavige's bullshit for years and is one of the few people at the Int Base that has mouthed off to him on occasion. Lyman just likes to be able to spend a few minutes with his wife Carol every once in awhile and the last time they had a few days off with each other was over 20 years ago.

j. Russ Bellin was brought to the Int Base by David Miscavige after Russ had overseen the building of the underground vaults in California and New Mexico. Russ's wife is still posted at CST and he rarely if ever sees her due to him being locked up at the Int Base as an INT SP.

So if you wondering why they are so happy in the pictures, it is the things above that fill them with overwhelming happiness! (Or they know David Miscavige is about to have a cell mate named Bubba.)

3. They love to add up years and say how much experience people have combined. "470 years of lying and cheating." These same people have over 100 years combined experience at being designated "Suppressive Persons" by David Miscavige! That is over 700 in SP dog years.

4. Stats are total bullshit and in most cases unverifiable. They say that stats doubled or tripled in effort to leave out the numbers so that they cannot be verified. They used to show the numbers and people started to catch on that the stats were going down not up, so they stopped doing that. Also doubling a stat is a easyt thing to fudge. You have one guy start a course last year. You get the same guy and his friend to start a course this year and they might not even finish or join anonymous a week later and you still have DOUBLE the course starts as last year! Hurray!!!

Until next time...

photos on this thread.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 06, 2009, 10:00:47 AM
             EXCLUSIVE: Will and Jada Fire Head of Their School

Will Smith and his wife Jada Pinkett Smith have fired the head of their controversial private school The New Village Leadership Academy, has learned exclusively.

Jacqueline Olivier - the woman the famous husband and wife enlisted to set up their Calabasas campus - was axed from her $200,000 a year position via a telephone call from the Matrix actress.

"Jada phoned Jaqueline and told her that they had 'decided to go in another direction' with the school,” an insider told “As head of the campus her position was becoming untenable as she did not agree with Study Tech and felt uncomfortable with it.” Olivier “thrashed-out” a severance package with the couple and “it’s understood that she signed a confidentiality agreement with regard to her time at the school.”

Calls to Olivier were not immediately returned but it is understood that she has taken-up another position within the educational recruitment field.

The school head and the superstar couple were said to have clashed about the school's mysterious Study Tech curriculum which was devised by Scientologist founder Ron L. Hubbard. While the school’s official website simply reads “Coming Soon!” under Head of School, has learned that Piano Foster is the new woman tapped for the role.

"They have appointed somebody else who is more 'in-line' with their thinking as to how the school should be run," the source added.

When contacted by, Foster confirmed: "I officially took over on July 1, 2009, and I'm looking forward to the challenge. I've been working in education for the past 20 years at various public and charter schools so I feel I'm ready for the job."

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 06, 2009, 04:34:18 PM
                            The battle for East Grinstead

Dithering, stitch-up and dismay within the Government over how to treat the challenge of Scientology emerges from the confidential papers.

L. Ron Hubbard’s choice of East Grinstead as the headquarters of his religion made the West Sussex town a Jerusalem for a certain kind of adherent in the 1960s.

Kenneth Robinson, as Health Minister, in 1968 banned followers from entering Britain to study or teach Scientology, which was accused of exploiting the vulnerable. His successor, Richard Crossman, thought the ban excessive and commissioned a report by Sir John Foster, QC, a Conservative MP, who recommended letting them return.

It now emerges that the exercise was a sham. Sir Keith Joseph, as Health Secretary in the early 1970s, had a quiet word with the author, then wrote in confidence: “Sir J Foster would say PRIVATELY that he was appointed to provide an excuse for my predecessor to reverse his predecessor’s decision to ban entry.” When the Scientologists sued the Government for libel, Whitehall sought proof they were dangerous. In 1976, one health official wrote that the evidence could lead to “a public outcry against the sect and a demand for further action against it”.

Young, mentally ill people had gone to East Grinstead for treatment and had complete breakdowns. A woman who paid £300 was found living in a forest.

The ban remained in place until 1980, but last night the Church of Scientology described the claims as ridiculous and said that police repeatedly found the allegations in the Government’s papers to be “completely false”.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 18, 2009, 08:23:19 AM
 Village Voice covers Paul Grosswald talk
Scientology Escapee Tells Skeptics' Group How It's Done
By Candice M. Giove in Events, Featured, Scientology
Monday, Aug. 17 2009 @ 7:30AM

Photos by Candice M. Giove.

Gathered in a room at the New York Public Library Jefferson Market Branch at the Avenue of the Americas and West 10th Street a group listening to an ex-Scientologist evaluated their traits.

Bright? Of course. Curious about the world around me? Sure. Idealistic? Sometimes. Like being the recipient of a compliment? Who doesn't? Take risks? From time to time.

So when Paul Grosswald, a former Scientologist-turned-anti-cult-lecturer, instructed those who checked off at least three of the nine general statements on a handout to raise their hands, everyone's digits reached towards the ceiling.

"You are exactly the type of people that cult recruiters are looking for," he said -- which, of course, elicited a peal of laughter since New York City Skeptics, a group of local critical thinkers, was hosting the event last Saturday.

Intellectual or not, Grosswald believes that anyone could be susceptible to cult recruitment. Stereotypes play less of a role in a cult catch than a recruiter striking during one of life's trying times. A book for Scientology recruiters he brought along instructed those in the field to find a person's "ruin." It included a chart of common problems and Scientology courses, films and books as remedies.

"Nobody leads a charmed life," he said. "We all go through points in our life when we're vulnerable."

In 1989 the Church of Scientology took advantage of Grosswald's teenage troubles. Lured in by a personality evaluation, Grosswald dedicated six months of his life to the cult and dropped out of college to join the Sea Organization. His quick-acting parents intervened before he embedded further into the group.

After his departure from Scientology and now with decades of hindsight, Grosswald spends time speaking out against their practices and those of other cults that perform mind control to keep members believing. During his short time as a Scientologist, Grosswald said they swayed his thinking through hypnotic activities like auditing.

The Church of Scientology, and other cults like the Unification Church, he said, conquered thoughts in the ways psychiatrist Robert Jay Laftin's outlined in his book Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism: A study of brainwashing in China. Laftin's "Eight Marks of a Mind-Control Cult" include placing people in the organization's environment, creating mystical illusions, demanding purity, making people confess, implanting the idea that their way of thinking is superior, communicating with jargon, making the mission more important than any individual, and establishing the idea that outsiders have no right to exist.

Grosswald hopes that spreading this knowledge will prevent people from getting suckered into joining dangerous cult groups. His tell-tale signs may be helpful, since nobody would approach you on the street asking if you wanted to join their cult. Recruitment is much more subtle.

The former Scientologist moved from behind his podium and placed a chair next to it. He released an accordion of printer paper containing the names of global front agencies for the Moonies. The paper unfurled many feet below him. "This is to give you an idea of how sophisticated it is," he said. "If I gave you the Scientology list it would be just as long."

He released an accordion of printer paper containing the names of global front agencies for the Moonies. "If I gave you the Scientology list it would be just as long."

The L. Ron Hubbard Dianetics Foundation hooked Grosswald twenty years ago, while he was a sophomore at Hoftra University on Long Island. Vexed by a lack of major and an angst-ridden romance, the young Grosswald decided to fill out a lengthy questionnaire titled "Are you curious about yourself?" which had been handed to him on Times Square. He was called in to hear the results of his analysis.

The analysis concluded that he had girl problems, he lacked a life path, and that he was socially awkward. "I came out of there feeling like, wow, that was the most incredible personality analysis ever," he said. "They know everything about me!"

He now compares their analysis to James Randi's horoscope experiment, in which people made the same general horoscopes fit their personal situations. In Randi's test everyone received the exact same predictions and everyone believed that it zeroed in on their lives.

But after receiving his personality test result, the possibility of setting himself straight seemed worth the $95 fee for the Hubbard Dianetics Seminar.

Grosswald first learned auditing, which he said, is a form of hypnosis. "People have a lot of misunderstandings about what that means," he said. "I think people assume hypnosis is when you swing a watch in front of somebody's face and put them into a deep sleep and then they act like a chicken on stage."

But during auditing, critical thinking skills slip away, he said, leaving a person in a trance-like state where they become susceptible to suggestion. "I never fell asleep or lost consciousness so I never realized that this was actually what was going on," he said.

The Church of Scientology employs other techniques to shut down thought. Grosswald said they practice "training routines" - which seem like a sinister spin on childhood staring contests. A supervisor intently watches at an underling and barks "flunk!" at the subject's slightest move. Then the exercise begins all over. By the time Grosswald left, he could sit with an impenetrable stare for three hours.

In another exercise called "bull-baiting," a supervisor shouts at a Scientologist, sometimes using things ripped from the records of their auditing sessions, to elicit reaction. Again, the subject learns to turn the mind off and sits with a blank expression.

The Church also wrested control of his mind through word-clearing exercises. (The organization has its own dictionary.) They also force adherents to display their understanding of words and ideas much the way kindergarteners do by making them arrange paper clips, clay and other objects to illustrate concepts.

They prevent members from learning information about beliefs upfront, Grosswald said. The story of Xenu only comes after a Scientologist invested years and hundreds of thousands of dollars into the organization. So by the time many reach the OTIII level - where the Sci-Fi population control tale is revealed - some people commit suicide or walk away, he said. But some realize they've put too much into it to stop and continue onto the next level, he added.

"At the point where you see body Thetans crawling on your arms, you're psychotic," he said.

Grosswald did not make it that far along the Bridge to Total Freedom.

After being involved for months in the organization, an incredibly attractive southern belle and a friend from the Church convinced him after five hours of emotional torture to quit school and join the Sea Organization. He signed a billion-year contract and moved into a compound on West 48th Street.

"My parents went ballistic," he said.

While in their service he earned $35 a week, working 14 hours for six days scrubbing toilets. Sea Organization officials then made him an offer to move to California.

His parents remained persistent and phoned the Church of Scientology demanding to see him. According to Grosswald, his father ultimately wound up threatening organization leader John Carmichael in Scientology jargon. "He said, 'If I don't see my son by Wednesday you're fair game."

The Church of Scientology permitted Grosswald a 45 minute outing. His parents, his aunt and his best friend, however, kept him in a car speeding along the Long Island Expressway to a hotel where exit counselors were waiting.

Those counselors put many, many questions in his head. Then they handed him the story of Xenu. As his parents recall his face whitened. The Church convinced him that reading those materials prematurely would cause death.

Back at the Church, Grosswald spilled the evening's events to Carmichael. He also told him that his father warned, "For every person you recruit, we're going to keep ten people out."

The Church of Scientology deemed Grosswald a security threat and threw him out. "They couldn't have me running around telling people about Xenu," he said.

It took him about a year to recover his cult exit. He went back to school, finished his degree and went on to earn a law degree -- magna cum laude -- from Brooklyn Law School.

He would love to take on the Church of Scientology in the courts, but with a three-year statute of limitation most victims of brainwashing aren't ready to take action at that point.

"I'm dying for someone to bring me a case," he said.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 19, 2009, 03:59:43 PM
        Rant/ Rave in bed with Scientology? Here’s the proof

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 22, 2009, 10:44:36 PM
                 Ten years after...

Post from OCMB...

Ten years ago today, Tom Tobin of the SP Times reported that the Happy Slappy Fun Cult known as the Church of Scientology had poured the foundations of the Super Power Building. The Super Power Building remains unfinished today following a decade and a litany of excuses from Scientology about why it takes more than ten years to finish a building. SP's cannot finish cycles of action according to LRH, but the SP Building is a different matter because...ahh, factually, ahh, I don't know why. COB Dave "Slappy McSlap" would have to tell you the why's.

Despite the long delays, Scientology has kept raising money for the SP Building and continues to raise money for the unfinished hulk. After the SP Times exposed David Miscavige's beatings of his staff, CoS declared that the SP Building would be finished... next year. I guess it takes two wog reporters lighting a fire under Miscavige's ass to get COB to finish his Super Power product -- if for no other reason than as a distraction from those stories! Otherwise it's manana! Tomorrow all of our Theta Dreams will be realized at Super Power. Tomorrow. Not today. Today is for handling Hill 10's and flapping flaps!


© St. Petersburg Times, published August 20, 1999

CLEARWATER -- The foundation has been poured and two towering white cranes reach into the downtown sky.

Construction is well under way on a 370,000-square-foot Church of Scientology building that will take two years to build.

When it opens, Scientology expects to have doubled its uniformed staff to 2,000. It also projects that the number of Scientology parishioners visiting Clearwater will increase from 1,500 to as many as 5,000 at any given time...


Another SP Times story from May 6, 2006 said that the Happy Slappy Fun Cult was almost ready to unveil Super Power, but three years later there are still no Super Power Rundowns or Super Power Building:


Scientology nearly ready to unveil Super Power

In the works for decades, the closely guarded spiritual training program will be revealed in Clearwater.

Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard taught that people have 57 "perceptics." They include an ability to discern relative sizes, blood circulation, balance, compass direction, temperature, gravity and an "awareness of importance, unimportance."

Church officials won't discuss specifics of Super Power. But Feshbach and another prominent Clearwater Scientologist who, like Feshbach, is a major donor to Super Power's building fund, provided some details in interviews with the St. Petersburg Times. A group of former Scientologists who worked for the church on a campus in California where the program was in development also described elements of it.

Super Power uses machines, apparatus and specially designed rooms to exercise and enhance a person's so-called perceptics. Those machines include an antigravity simulator and a gyroscope-like apparatus that spins a person around while blindfolded to improve perception of compass direction, said the former Scientologists.

A video screen that moves forward and backward while flashing images is used to hone a viewer's ability to identify subliminal messages, they said.

Hubbard promised Super Power would improve perceptions and "put the person into a new realm of ability." He believed it would unlock abilities needed to spread Scientology across the planet....


Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 24, 2009, 04:52:19 PM
                   From an article awaiting publication by Gerry Armstrong

Hubbard and Scientology teach that SPs comprise the most evil two and a half percent of the planetary wog population. "Wogs" are what Scientologists call the human race or Homo sapiens. Scientology teaches that Scientologists comprise a new race, "Homo novis" or "Homo scientologicus," a much more able, aware, intelligent and ethical race than the "humanoid" wog race. The organization markets and delivers courses training Scientologists how to spot or identify SPs among the wogs they encounter in life, and then to shatter the SPs once spotted. In reality, cult leader Miscavige and his Sea Org religious police do the identifying of Suppressive Persons for shattering, and rank and file Scientologists simply obey their police arm's SP declarations and other orders.

Scientologists are indoctrinated to proclaim that Scientology possesses the only mental or spiritual system that "works," or has ever "worked," and in fact produces "total freedom." Scientologists universally are dedicated to "keeping Scientology working," and they spend immense amounts of time and enormous sums of money to keep it working. The work Scientology claims it is performing is the "processing" of people, with its trademarked technology, from the state of "raw meat," or wog or human being, to the most astonishingly superior and stable state called "Clear." More processing, Scientology says, takes Clears to superperson states and "never before imagined" beings called "Operating Thetans," or "OTs."

A Clear, Scientology says, has achieved optimum rationality and optimum sanity, and is as far above normal wogs as normal wogs are above "institutionalized cases." Scientology scripture promises that a Clear's IQ has shot up like a skyrocket, about a point per hour of processing; he recalls everything that ever happened to him and anything he ever studied; and he does mental computations, as in chess, which a wog chess player would do in half an hour, in ten or fifteen seconds. Scientology says that the Clear is a created evolutionary step in man, without ills or aberrations. OTs, Scientology claims, are "at cause over matter, energy, space, time, form and life" and can operate outside their bodies. By the time I left the organization, I had reached Clear and OT Level 3, and had undergone over a thousand hours of processing to get there.

Scientology calls its system of manifold grades and levels for processing people from wog to OT the "Bridge to Total Freedom," and all Scientologists are somewhere on that bridge. Scientology scripture, which is unalterable on this point, states that the whole agonized future of this planet, every man, woman and child on it, and the Scientologists' own destiny for the next endless trillions of years, depend on what each Scientologist does here and now on the Bridge. The Suppressive Person doctrine declares that the only thing stopping everyone from moving up the Bridge and becoming more able, aware, ethical and intelligent, the only thing preventing total freedom, indeed the only thing wrong with this universe, is SPs.

Originating in racial dogma within Scientology's religious scriptures, SPs form, from the Scientologists' perspective, a religio-racial class roughly equivalent to Jews from the Nazis' perspective. Just as the Nazis could theoretically join and leave Nazism, Scientologists can theoretically join and leave Scientology. Just as the Jews, from the Nazi perspective, however, could not stop being Jews, SPs, Scientology teaches, cannot stop being SPs. According to Scientology dogma, which Scientologists also accept as "science," Suppressive Persons possess a genetic pathology plus a mental and psycho-spiritual handicap and morbidity that prevents them from ever being anything but SPs. The Nazis' dogma and science concluded that the Jews were handicapped with their own set of irremediable genetics and psycho-religious malignancies that kept them from being anything other than Jews.

Scientology's SP doctrine states that SPs are the truly destructive, truly psychotic and truly criminal of the world's wogs, the cause of illness, at the root of every bad condition, and deserving no civil rights. According to the doctrine, the majority of people in mental institutions are not insane at all, but were put there by SPs, who are the truly insane. Wog psychiatrists and psychologists are seen as a subclass of SPs, and psychiatry and psychology are considered "Suppressive Groups," which Scientology seeks to "obliterate." The SP doctrine identifies archetypal SPs like Hitler, Stalin and Osama bin Laden, but also says that SPs are very average, common too, just like me, and undetected.

The "stellar examples" Scientology uses to personify Suppressive Persons are very likely what wog mental science now calls antisocial personalities or sociopaths. Hubbard in fact also used the term "antisocial personality" for Scientology's enemies, but inside the organization the settled and universal label is "SP," or formally "Suppressive Person." Many of the characteristics Hubbard imputes to SPs resemble the traits that psychology and psychiatry say sociopaths possess. The majority of the people Scientology calls SPs, and treats or attacks as irredeemable criminals, however, do not exhibit these characteristics, are not sociopaths, and do not manifest antisocial personality disorders.

The people Scientology and Scientologists identify and target as Suppressive Persons are largely good, social, non-sociopathic people who have simply stood up to the organization and spoken out about its fraud, its persecution of good people, its SP doctrine, or its numerous other antisocial policies and practices. The more knowledge a person has of these things, the more he communicates that knowledge, and the more rationally and accurately he communicates it, the bigger SP he is in the view of Scientology's leaders. The bigger an SP these leaders consider a person to be, the greater the persecution that is to be inflicted on him, and the more of the organization's personnel and resources that are directed to that target or front in Scientology's global war. The form and amplitude of the persecution are further modulated by Scientology's and Scientologists' opportunities and means, and the need to be seen as winning.

Scientology does nothing really to wage war on the world's actual or arguably truly dangerous sociopaths. Organization leaders, in fact, recruit and form alliances with certain sociopaths, and enforce within Scientology a self-perpetuating group sociopathy. Hubbard was a sociopath, who used his God-given will and mental power to make himself even more sociopathic. He saw his own sociopathy, as perhaps every sociopath does, not as a disorder, but as an ideal condition and way of life that made everyone else, and their conditions and ways of life, inferior. He conned countless people into admiring him, slaving for him, committing crimes for him, and paying him huge sums of money to obtain the fabulous qualities and abilities he claimed he possessed and had the "tech" to impart to others. The individuals that Scientology uses its inordinate wealth and power to attack are simply ordinary people who might recognize that Hubbard's mental states are not ideal or even superior, or observe that other claims are false, and who speak out critically about him or his organization's system and actions despite the inevitable persecution.

Hubbard devised, built and operated a global bait-and-switch psychotherapy scam, promising amazing results and money-back guaranteed satisfaction for its mental processing "technology." Since Hubbard's death in 1986, David Miscavige has operated the Scientology scam. The organization claims cures of many distressing or pernicious physical and psychological afflictions, and promises "gains" of superhuman abilities, powers, awareness, memory and intelligence. Scientology extracts exorbitant fees from its customers on these promises and fails to deliver what is promised. Even worse, it also extorts money, labor and immoral or criminal activity from its customers or members with threats of doom or of being declared SPs. The organization abuses its own people, breaks up families, induces dissociation and other deleterious psychological conditions, incites fear and hatred, and damages many of its members' physical health. Consequently, a great number of the people who have knowledge of Scientology's destructive, antisocial policies and actions to speak out about are already its victims.


Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 27, 2009, 07:28:55 AM

How many orgs and missions ARE there? According to Katherine Fraser at Gold Base: "We have, you know, 6,000 groups, churches, missions internationally." In 2008, Tommy Davis told CNN that they had 7,500 orgs and missions. Let's go to their official source and see what says.

This is just the official list from the Scientology site itself as of April 8th, 2009. If you know any other orgs or missions, or if you see any that have closed or moved, please let me know. I know I must have missed a few with the sucky system they've got set up, so if you see one I've missed, tell me! Feel free to check my research and my math.
[edit] Interesting things I noticed

    * There are a lot of countries I've never heard of before.
    * There are more Scientology centers listed in France than all of Canada.
    * Italy has more Scientology centers listed than any other European country.
    * There are a disproportionally large number of Scientology centers in Taiwan and Italy.
    * There are Scientology centers in only four African nations.
    * Pakistan is the only Islamic nation with a Scientology center.
    * There are 1.6 billion people in China and not one Scientology center.
    * Gold Base in Hemet is not listed as a Scientology location in the provided search. Neither is ASHO ANZO Sydney. I had to add them separately.
    * There are more Scientology sites listed for California than any other state in the US.
    * There are 17 US states without any official Scientology orgs/missions.
    * 27 countries have at least one Org no change from 2007.
    * 23 countries have missions only, down 7 from 2007.
    * Most countries show little change in the number of service units. As noted in our previous surveys however, a few countries are different.
    * Russia has two Orgs supporting a lot of Missions, but growth has reversed (30 down from 73) perhaps due to competition from Rons Org.
    * Italy also has a lot of Missions, the number seems to have stabilised.
    * Several other countries experienced a big growth in Missions such as Hungary, Slovakia, Taiwan and Ukraine but these like Russia appear to be in decline.
    * In the USA the number of Missions has now fallen after a decade of steady increase.
    * Orgs: 128 (no change) Missions: 322 (down 61 from 2007)

Historical geographic breakdown of orgs/missions: [1]
[edit] Results and Number Crunching

There are 472 listed Orgs and Missions in the whole world according to the official Scientology site

6,000 - 472 = 5,528 apparently missing orgs/missions that are not officially listed by

If there are 8-10 million Scientologists in the world and 472 missions/orgs officially listed by, there would have to be an average of 16,949 to 21,186 members for every single mission and org in the entire world.

Note: this number includes Gold Base and ASHO ANZO buildings in California and in Sydney that were not listed by the website.
[edit] International

(Countries listed Alphabetically, X means no Scientology org listed)

    * Afghanistan - X
    * Akrotiri - X
    * Albania - X
    * American Samoa - X
    * Andorra - X
    * Angola - X
    * Antarctica - X
    * Antigua and Barbuda - X
    * Argentina - 3
    * Armenia - X
    * Ashmore and Cartier Islands - X
    * Australia - 12
    * Austria - 4
    * Azerbaijan - X
    * Bahamas - X
    * Bahrain - X
    * Bangladesh - X
    * Barbados - X
    * Bassas da India - X
    * Belarus - 2
    * Belgium - 2
    * Belize - X
    * Benin - X
    * Bermuda - X
    * Bhutan - X
    * Bolivia - 3
    * Bosnia and Herzegovina - X
    * Botswana - X
    * Bouvet Island - X
    * Brazil - 1
    * British Indian Ocean Territory - X
    * British Virgin Islands - X
    * Brunei - X
    * Bulgaria - X
    * Burkina Faso - X
    * Burma (Myanmar) - X
    * Burundi - X
    * Cambodia - X
    * Cameroon - X
    * Canada - 10
    * Cape Verde - X
    * Cayman Islands - X
    * Central African Republic - X
    * Chad - X
    * Chile - 1
    * China - X
    * Christmas Island - X
    * Clipperton Island - X
    * Cocos (Keeling) Islands - X
    * Colombia - 3
    * Comoros - X
    * Congo, Democratic Republic of the - X
    * Congo, Republic of the - X
    * Cook Islands - X
    * Coral Sea Islands - X
    * Costa Rica - 2
    * Cote d'Ivoire - X
    * Croatia - X
    * Cuba - X
    * Cyprus - X
    * Czech Republic - 4
    * Denmark - 6
    * Dhekelia - X
    * Djibouti - X
    * Dominica - X
    * Dominican Republic - X
    * Ecuador - 1
    * Egypt - X
    * El Salvador - 1
    * Equatorial Guinea - X
    * Eritrea - X
    * Estonia - X
    * Ethiopia - X
    * Europa Island - X
    * Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas) - X
    * Faroe Islands - X
    * Fiji - X
    * Finland - 2
    * France - 12
    * French Guiana - X
    * French Polynesia - X
    * French Southern and Antarctic Lands - X
    * Gabon - X
    * Gambia - X
    * Gaza Strip - X
    * Georgia - X
    * Germany - 18
    * Ghana - X
    * Gibraltar - X
    * Glorioso Islands - X
    * Greece - 1
    * Greenland - X
    * Grenada - X
    * Guadeloupe
    * Guam - X
    * Guatemala - 1
    * Guernsey - X
    * Guinea - X
    * Guinea-Bissau - X
    * Guyana - X
    * Haiti - 1
    * Heard Island and McDonald Islands - X
    * Holy See (Vatican City) - X
    * Honduras - X
    * Hong Kong - X
    * Hungary - 16
    * Iceland - X
    * India - 4
    * Indonesia - X
    * Iran - X
    * Iraq - X
    * Ireland - 1
    * Isle of Man - X
    * Israel - 4
    * Italy - 62
    * Jamaica - X
    * Jan Mayen - X
    * Japan - 4
    * Jersey - X
    * Jordan - X
    * Juan de Nova Island - X
    * Kazakhstan - 7
    * Kenya - 2
    * Kiribati - X
    * Korea, North - X
    * Korea, South - X
    * Kuwait - X
    * Kyrgyzstan - X
    * Laos - X
    * Latvia - 1
    * Lebanon - X
    * Lesotho - X
    * Liberia - X
    * Libya - X
    * Liechtenstein - X
    * Lithiuania - 1
    * Luxembourg - X
    * Macau - X
    * Macedonia - 2
    * Madagascar - X
    * Malawi - X
    * Malaysia - X
    * Maldives - X
    * Mali - X
    * Malta - X
    * Marshall Islands - X
    * Martinique - X
    * Mauritania - X
    * Mauritius - X
    * Mayotte - X
    * Mexico - 15
    * Micronesia, Federated States of - X
    * Moldova - X
    * Monaco - X
    * Mongolia - X
    * Montserrat - X
    * Morocco - X
    * Mozambique - X
    * Namibia - X
    * Nauru - X
    * Navassa Island - X
    * Nepal - 1
    * Netherlands - 1
    * Netherlands Antilles - X
    * New Caledonia - X
    * New Zealand - 1
    * Nicaragua - X
    * Niger - X
    * Nigeria -1
    * Niue - X
    * Norfolk Island - X
    * Northern Mariana Islands - X
    * Norway - 1
    * Oman - X
    * Pakistan - 1
    * Palau - X
    * Panama - X
    * Papua New Guinea - X
    * Paracel Islands - X
    * Paraguay - X
    * Peru - X
    * Philippines - 1
    * Pitcairn Islands - X
    * Poland - X
    * Portugal - 1
    * Puerto Rico - 1
    * Qatar - X
    * Reunion - X
    * Romania - 1
    * Russia - 32
    * Rwanda - X
    * Saint Helena - X
    * Saint Kitts and Nevis - X
    * Saint Lucia - X
    * Saint Pierre and Miquelon - X
    * Saint Vincent and the Grenadines - X
    * Samoa - X
    * San Marino - X
    * Sao Tome and Principe - X
    * Saudi Arabia - X
    * Senegal - X
    * Serbia and Montenegro - X
    * Seychelles - X
    * Sierra Leone - X
    * Singapore - X
    * Slovakia - 7
    * Slovenia - X
    * Solomon Islands - X
    * Somalia - X
    * South Africa - 9
    * South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands - X
    * Spain - 6
    * Spratly Islands - X
    * Sri Lanka - X
    * Sudan - X
    * Suriname - X
    * Svalbard - X
    * Swaziland - X
    * Sweden - 4
    * Switzerland - 11
    * Syria - X
    * Taiwan - 12
    * Tajikistan - X
    * Tanzania - 1
    * Thailand - 1
    * Timor-Leste - X
    * Togo - X
    * Tokelau - X
    * Tonga - X
    * Trinidad and Tobago - X
    * Tromelin Island - X
    * Tunisia - X
    * Turkey - X
    * Turkmenistan - X
    * Turks and Caicos Islands - X
    * Tuvalu - X
    * Uganda - X
    * Ukraine - 11
    * United Arab Emirates - X
    * United Kingdom - 18
    * United States - 139 (See next section)
    * Uruguay - X
    * Uzbekistan - X
    * Vanuatu - X
    * Venezuela - 2
    * Vietnam - X
    * Virgin Islands - X
    * Wake Island - X
    * Wallis and Futuna - X
    * West Bank - X
    * Western Sahara - X
    * Yemen- X
    * Zambia - X
    * Zimbabwe - 1

[edit] USA

    * Alabama - X
    * Alaska - 1
    * Arizona - 3
    * Arkansas - X
    * California -53
    * Colorado - 4
    * Connecticut - 2
    * Delaware - X
    * District of Columbia - 1
    * Florida - 12
    * Georgia - 1
    * Hawaii - 1
    * Idaho - 1
    * Illinois - 5
    * Indiana - 1
    * Iowa - X
    * Kansas - 1
    * Kentucky - X
    * Louisiana - 4
    * Maine - X
    * Maryland - X
    * Massachusetts -2
    * Michigan - 3
    * Minnesota - 1
    * Mississippi - 1
    * Missouri - 2
    * Montana - X
    * Nebraska - X
    * Nevada - 3
    * New Hampshire - 1
    * New Jersey - 1
    * New Mexico - 1
    * New York - 8
    * North Carolina - 2
    * North Dakota - X
    * Ohio - 3
    * Oklahoma - X
    * Oregon - 2
    * Pennsylvania - 2
    * Rhode Island - X
    * South Carolina - X
    * South Dakota - X
    * Tennessee - 2
    * Texas - 7
    * Utah - 2
    * Vermont - X
    * Virginia - 2
    * Washington - 3
    * West Virginia - X
    * Wisconsin - 1
    * Wyoming - X

Post by: rockyslammer on August 27, 2009, 07:44:46 AM
considering most "missions" are run out of the cupboard under the stairs of private homes - this doesn't mean much.

They seemed to have missed the ChCh mission in NZ as well.


Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 28, 2009, 11:01:50 AM
Re the above post by Rocky... Subject ChCh mission.
If they aren`t paying their fees to uplines they
may have lost their mission status.
Happens to WISE...

 As agreed I have removed names, locations or any other data that might help OSA figure
out the source of emails. The emails may not seem all that interesting but it gives you
some idea of what they are pushing on the inside.

Date: June 2008
Subject: membership


Your General membership with WISE has expired.

As a businessperson in the XXXXX Area, it is important that you promote the administrative principles of L. Ron Hubbard to others in your community and set an example of ethical business practices for others to follow.

That is what a WISE Membership represents, and by maintaining a current membership you are confirming your own adherence to these principles and standards.

If you feel there is a matter which needs to be addressed, or you have some situation which is preventing you from maintaining your membership, you can reach me directly by replying to this e-mail and I will do my best to assist you.

You can renew your membership quickly and easily by visiting our website at Select the "Join WISE" option and follow the instructions on the screen.

You can also make payments to the WISE Office directly via the phone, fax or e-mail listed above.

Payments can be made by check or credit card.

We look forward to having you back on board as a member of this group and to your assistance in forwarding the purposes of WISE in the XXXX Area.


Josh Scott
CO WISE Flag Land Base

©2008 WISE. All Rights Reserved. WISE and the LIONESS & CUBS Symbol are trademarks, service marks and collective membership marks owned by World Institute of Scientology Enterprises.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 29, 2009, 04:23:52 PM
The UN has foiled the attempted infiltration of Scientologists

CULTS | An accredited NGOs would serve as a Trojan horse for a "summit" organized covertly by the Church of Scientology.

ALAIN JOURDAN | 28.08.2009 | 00:00

The Church of Scientology has tried to pass the gates of the Palais des Nations, but could not do it. Initially, the 6th Annual International Summit on Human Rights was held at the UN. Its organizers, Des jeunes pour les droits de l'homme (Youth for Human Rights) and Village Suisse ONG, had to fall back on the quiet lounges of the Hotel Intercontinental. The proximity of these two organizations with the Church of Scientology eventually arouse suspicion, prompting the UN not to lend meeting room.

Des jeunes pour les droits de l'homme , whose statutes have been deposited in Switzerland, is a direct offshoot of the American Youth For Human Rights International, known as one of the satellites of Scientology. French Martine Rhein and Belgian Christian Mirre came to Geneva to oversee the staging of the conference which opens today. They make no secret of their membership in the organization founded by Ron Hubbard, but they ensure that there is no link between the Church of Scientology and Youth for Human Rights.

"It is true that initially Scientology supported it's creation because this organization represents the same moral values," says Martine Rhein.

The links with the african NGO Village Suisse ONG, who in 2008 obtained a consultative status with ECOSOC, raise more questions. If this organization located in Lancy historically has no connection with Scientology, it seems to have been closing-in. She was the one who requested a room with the Palais des Nations to organize the 6th Summit of international human rights. Accredited as an NGO, it has the right to meet there. But the institution has chosen to veto it. What is relatively unique.

A known NGO

The attempted infiltration of Scientology was a little too showy. On its website, Village Suisse ONG offers a link to another site that offers training on Trade and Development at 570 francs a day, delivered by the representative of the Church of Scientology in Switzerland. Which figure in recent months among the team that runs the NGO. Reached by telephone, the founder of Village Suisse ONG, Adalbert Nouga, responds that he does not "enter into the controversy."

He added to finish: "My organization has long worked with the Confederation. All information is on our website. We do not meddle in religion. "

Martine Rhein and Christian Mirre ensure that the conference held today at the Intercontinental is not to promote Scientology as a religion, but to encourage the public to better understand the articles of the Universal Declaration of human rights.

The organization of this conference also passed almost unnoticed. No leaflet was distributed in the street. Electronic invitations were addressed to diplomats and members of other NGOs. It is them who have sounded the alarm, surprised to see this strange summit of human rights arise from nowhere.

Martine Rhein and Christian Mirre are surprised by the reactions. Last year, the summit could be held at UN headquarters in New York without it, they say, raising the slightest indignation. Wich is not entirely accurate. The only difference is that a state has interceded that other time in their favor to get them a meeting room.

The anti-cult will sit with NGOs

The doors of the Palais des Nations did not open for Scientologists. In contrast, anti-cult organizations have received their entry badge. This Information passed until then unnoticed. During the summer, the Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC) has granted special consultative status with the European Federation of Centers of Research and Information on Sectarianism (Fecris). An initiative that is due to the Swiss President of the Swiss Association for the Defense of families and individuals (Adsfi) Danièle Muller-Tulli.

The Fecris, an umbrella association of which she is Vice-President, has over 50 associations in 31 countries mainly in Europe but with correspondents in other continents. It fights against the proliferation of sectarian and totalitarian groups. It has a participatory status with the Council of Europe. For several years, secular associations denounced entryism and lobbying by the sects in the UN and European fora under the guise of NGOs. Procult and anti-cult may now oppose it. on the Fecris side, the only rule seems to be: no masks (as in: you better be honest and upfront about who you are and what you wanr)

The holding in Geneva of a summit of human rights sponsored by Scientologists deos not surprise Danièle Muller, who has long denounced the European offensive of Scientologists.

"What disgust a good number of people all the way up to the UN circles, is how the Church of Scientology uses the Universal Declaration of Human Rights for its own advertising," says the president of the Adsfi .

Here is the actual article in French

Post by: Ididntcomeback on September 04, 2009, 04:09:35 PM
                         San Jacinto council could oppose road closure


10:00 PM PDT on Wednesday, September 2, 2009

The Press-Enterprise

The San Jacinto City Council is expected to take a position on the subject of closure of Gilman Springs Road near Golden Era Studios tonight.

The winding, two-lane road between Highway 79 and State Street is in unincorporated Riverside County adjacent to the city and bisects the Church of Scientology's Golden Era Productions property.

Councilmen Jim Ayres and Jim Potts, who make up the council's transportation subcommittee, asked that the item be placed on the agenda and the resolution wording urges keeping the road open. The council meets at 7 p.m. in the San Jacinto Unified School District offices.

At a meeting earlier this summer about San Jacinto River levee improvements, a consultant to Scientology officials asked the city to support the closure, San Jacinto City Manager Barry McClellan said by phone.

The question for the city is, "What's the benefit for the citizens of San Jacinto and I could not think of one single reason that it would benefit our residents," said Potts .

If anything, the area will need more access points, as growth occurs, he said. Patrons of the Soboba Casino, emergency vehicles and motorists entering and leaving the San Jacinto Valley use the route.

A Scientology spokeswoman did not return a message seeking comment. Scientology 's training videos and audiotapes are made at the studios.

The church bought the property in 1978.

Download story podcast

Post by: Ididntcomeback on September 08, 2009, 10:14:40 AM
Screened last night Monday 7th September on TVone
Close up. Henry Paul interviews an expert on Cults.

Here is the article and 10 minute interview.
Worth watching.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on September 09, 2009, 09:19:48 AM
                                Post copied from EXSMB

I have been lurking in the background, reading posts, PMing to a few,and trying to get up the nerve to "escape" from what I now refer as The Cult of Scientology for the last several months.

Two weeks ago I finally made the cut. It was the hardest thing I ever did in my life, leaving behind someone I love with my whole heart but I had to for ME.

I was slowly dying inside but stubborn enough to fight. It is amazing now that I am out, and clearer headed, that the very thing they tried to suppress and invalidate in me, (my self determinism) was the very thing that gave me the final strength to walk away from scientology (i will not dignify it with capital letters). I was labeled as having a "problem with authority"

Before tonight I did not have the nerve to write too much publicly preferring to only PMing those I trusted like Tory, whom I credit and thank from the bottom of my heart with giving me the strength and encouragement I needed to finally make that final step.

After so many years both as public and staff, and hundreds of thousands of dollars thrown down the toilet, I am now publicly announcing that I am out and if they think they can bully me then they ain't really met me yet on my own turf. And, here is what i do when they call and leave me a message, or text me to "come in and route off properly

This is to those brave (and sometimes weird) souls that are out almost every weekend and some week days in front of the Orgs. Keep it up. It may not seem like it but you are being heard.

The infrastructure is collapsing, courseroom attendance is plummeting, and the Orgs are desperately trying to get in "fresh meat" pushing staff members harder and harder to get people in. The public scientologists are getting fed up with being regged every weekend and a large majority will not answer their phones. Panic is setting in and it is only a matter of time before more and more turn their backs and close their pocketbooks.

As the pressure to go Ideal increases so does the desperation for staff members, that is one reason the Missions and City Offices are closing. They are being absorbed by the Orgs they are attached to, in order to fill the staff quotas! This I know for a fact.

So, I predict as the CofS plummets down that dwindling spiral they have created we will be hearing from more and more people on this forum.

I am honored to be a member and now know for a certainty that I Am Not Alone any longer.
Lori I'm finally totally out and free!!

Post by: Ididntcomeback on September 09, 2009, 09:30:36 AM
If anyone asks "Why do you anonymous guys wear masks .?.."

Send them this link and not only will their question be answered,
you may also have a new anon.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on September 10, 2009, 08:25:24 PM

2009 September 7

tags: David Miscavige, Leaving Scientology, OTs
by rebel008

Over the last two days, I have spoken with three more OTs who have left, two OT VIIIs and one on OT VII. Same story. They were hauled in and told to donate money to their “Ideal” Org. They couldn’t afford it, and refused. They were hauled into Ethics and given a Sec Check for “missed withholds.” After they returned home, they received an HCO summons to “report or else.” They took the “or else.” Frankly, they don’t care if they are declared by David Miscavige’s Brave New Scientology. They’re in good company.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on September 11, 2009, 04:32:30 PM
                          Evidence destroyed... Twice.

Do not fail to read this thread.

It beggars belief.

Post by: AnonKiwi on September 16, 2009, 08:42:04 PM
Thanks for posting the good news. Easier to spot than trawling WWP.

Post by: NED on September 17, 2009, 06:24:56 AM
What freakin' slimey scum bags!
Scientologists know that this is going on. People being held at Hemet etc yet they are so BRAINWASHED they still protect the Cult!  The Cult is NOT going to save you you moron's!
Once your money is gone they not interested in you, you become an ethics particle... or a staff/slave member because you still want to go "up the bridge" and go free.  Wake up!  Look at other books, look on the internet.  When you finally get out of the clutches of the cult this whole new world opens up to you and it is amazing!

The Supreme Rulah! Ned.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on September 22, 2009, 08:58:12 AM
Photos from Gold`s security camera.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on September 22, 2009, 09:09:12 AM
Podcast of Gerry Armstrong and anonymous on radio in Vancouver Canada.

28.2 MB.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 09, 2009, 10:08:53 PM
                               Escape From Scientology

After being trapped in an abusive relationship with Scientology, I'm finally free. My escape was only made possible thanks to the hard work of the cyber-activism of Anonymous. I want to explain to the general public how an otherwise intelligent and well adjusted person can get caught up in Scientology's web of deceit.

There truly is something evil in that the "Church" manipulates the basic psychology of its members/ victims in a way that is nearly impossible to escape until it's too late.

It is also my opinion that they operate with the malign intent to not only drain their members emotionally, deprive them intellectually, but also to keep them oppressed financially.

I am publishing an account of how Scientology robbed me of my life; of the jobs I lost, the friends who abandoned me, and worse, the time that I lost while indentured as an unwitting servant in this international criminal enterprise.

It sounds almost unbelievable until you wake up to the reality of destructive cults in our midst.

Think Jonestown, the Moonies, or the Raelians. These are all above ground cults which flourish in our mostly enlightened society. But they are only the tip of the iceberg. Not all cults need publicity to survive. Most thrive under the cover of darkness.

It is my view that Scientology falls within the latter category; that the majority of their activities happen in the dark, paranoid, and secret world dreamed up by the charismatic confidence trickster, L. Ron Hubbard.

I want to thank each and every Anonymous hero for your role in my awakening and to thank you for allowing me to present my story here.

Sarah X

Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 27, 2009, 07:52:12 AM
            Edward McBride Suicide - A message from his brother Stephen

Hi there...

It kind of defeats the purpose of me being anonymous when I'm his brother Stephen McBride (belfastlad)..

All rightey, lets get started... For people that are not up to speed, I'm the brother of Edward McBride who committed suicide on February 7, 2007 whilst he was in the Australian Defense Force (ADF) and an active member of the Scientology for 2 years. He was found electrocuted (110,000 volts) at a desolate power station at Everton Park, Queensland (Australia). He had just completed "Run Drug Down", "Happiness Run Down" and "ARC Straight Wire" courses with the Scientology and had just forked out (bank loan) of more than $20,000 for more courses.

I have just returned home from a press conference with Senator Nick Xenophon / Ben Brown at parliament house in Canberra.. Basically, I flew out 22nd Nov (midnight) and arrived in Canberra approx 8:30am Monday morning.. Went to Nicks office and had a debrief on what the days proceedings would entail. If you could imagine (being jet lagged as well) sitting in front of 20 reporters / tv crew and them firing questions at you, quite daunting to say the least. In all fairness to the journalists, they were quite tame and I thanked them for being respectful and remorseful. That afternoon (Monday 1pm), I flew back to Perth and didnt arrive home till 8pm. Basically, I was on the go for 24hours. A small sacrifice to pay, in regard to getting the truth out there.

Once the press conference was over, I then had a 30 minute tv interview with a current affair tv program (I wont mention which one, in case there are any Scientology spies viewing this post - they may get the lawyers involved to stop it being aired) - it will be aired next week on prime time tv in Australia at 6:30pm (I will also post onto YouTube, etc).

Since the 23rd of Nov, I have had numerous propositions for radio / tv interviews which I will be following through over the next 2 weeks. Not only here in Australia, but also back home in Northern Ireland and also in England. Complete and utter international exposure to make sure my brother did not die in vain.

Why am I doing this ?? Because I want to expose this cult for what it is.. That being, a complete and utter farce, hiding behind a "religion".. You and me both know, it ain't a religion.. Hubbard even said "If you want to make money, then start a religion".. Doesn't get any clearer than that !! Spoken from the horses mouth. After doing a wee bit of research on the net (Google, you can find anything if you know where to look !!), it is quite clear that Hubbard was a drug fueled schizophreniac that deals in dark arts of satanism (handed down from his dad). This twisted individual is seriously (insert swear word here) up !! Do a google search on 'Aleister Crowley'.. Hubbard even thought he was the Anti-Christ !!

For the past 2.5 years, my parents health have both deteriorated due to the loss of a son / brother - flying back and forth to the eastern states for army inquiries, etc. I lost a brother, my parents are ill over this and I have so much rage going through my veins it's not funny.. It is plain and obvious that my brother committed suicide due to the fact that the Scientology were harassing, badgering and even on the point of stalking him in the 48 hours leading up to the inevitable (RIP). 19 voicemail messages left on his PDA.. Decorated police officers listened to those voicemail messages and said they were "demanding", "forceful" and "intimidating" - you do the math.. My brother was forced into a corner.

PS:- Oh and to the Scientologists that are probably on this site monitoring posts, etc.. Let me say one thing.. I will not rest until justice is served. You may have brainwashed my brother, but this is one person you'll have a hard time silencing. I'm one step ahead of you. I'm now in the public eye now, you don't think, that if anything should happen to me or my family "accidentally" people will be curious ?? "Possibly" pointing / investigating you ?? Last time I checked I was at parliament house / press conference.. You probably weren't expecting that - wrong.. I'm full of surprises and this is just the start.. Be smart with your next move, be very smart. I ain't nothing like my brother.. Belfast, Northern Ireland.. we know how to play (you do the math).. No I ain't paranoid or delusional, but scanning the internet for the last 2 years, gives me a very (pre)clear (sorry no pun intended - NOT !!) picture of what your "organization" is capable off.. You took my brother away from me and my parents and I will stop at nothing to make sure you cease to exist.. - This ain't a threat, it's a god damn promise..

PS:- to the readers of this message, can I please (I'm begging you), please spread the following link and pass it on -- 231 pages of documented proof of how corrupt the Scientology is.. Suicide's / abortions / murders / hit men / 'accidental' deaths / tax evasion / satanism..

PPS:- appologies 'moderators' if I'm not allowed to post external links, but I think it is invaluable to the cause..


Stephen McBride


Post by: NED on November 27, 2009, 10:47:44 AM
Wow!  Good on him.  My heartfelt sorrow goes to Stephen and his family.
Scientology, why are you pulling all this in??
May be there are just too many suppressives in the world now.
You read this poor guys story and yes, he must be suppressive too musn't he.  I mean, imagine wanting the Truth to be given to the coroner over your brother's suicide.  The cheek of it! 

Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 30, 2009, 04:04:23 PM
        How English Heritage snubbed the Scientologist founder L Ron Hubbard

L Ron Hubbard has joined the likes of Wallis Simpson, Eric Morecambe, Marc Bolan and Keith Moon after an application for a coveted blue plaque was rejected by English Heritage.

The government agency, which runs the scheme, rejected the application by supporters of the founder of Scientology after its blue plaques panel decided that it was unconvinced about Mr Hubbard's "reputation".

The decision has frustrated the Hubbard Foundation, which had nominated him. In an unusual move, a foundation representative went to visit English Heritage officials, following the verdict, to find out more about why he had been rejected and how his case could be helped.

Under the rules of the scheme, no candidate can be reconsidered within 10 years of being rejected, but Mr Hubbard's backers say they do not consider the matter "closed" and are now proposing further talks in a bid to revive their cause.

The organisation, which is considered a cult by some, is based on the premise that the human race is descended from Thetans, an exiled race from another planet.

It was founded by Mr Hubbard, an American science fiction writer, in the 1950s, and now has millions of followers including the Hollywood actors Tom Cruise and John Travolta. From 1957 until 1959, Mr Hubbard based himself at Fitzroy House, in London's West End, and wrote many of his works there. It was a Scientology "church" until 1968, when it was sold. The organisation then bought it back around six years ago and the four-storey building, at 37 Fitzroy Street, is now open as a museum in Mr Hubbard's memory.

According to minutes of a meeting in June last year, obtained using Freedom of Information legislation, the blue plaques panel decided that "more time was needed to make an objective assessment of Hubbard's reputation". Panel members present at the meeting included Professor Andrew Motion, the former Poet Laureate.

The panel "also noted that [Hubbard] had no settled residence in London". However, other foreign personalities who only spent short periods of their life in the capital have been awarded plaques in their honour.

Blue plaques are considered a high accolade and have been erected outside the London homes of some of the world's greatest minds. Eligibility guidelines state that nominated figures must have been dead for 20 years or have passed the centenary of their birth, and must have made an "important positive contribution to human welfare or happiness". Mr Hubbard died in 1986.

A source who was involved in the deliberations said: "The decision was on the grounds that he wasn't well known or well respected enough. Controversies surrounding him come into the well-respected bit. The committee was not divided on this, I think."

Sarah Eicker, director of Fitzroy House, who nominated Mr Hubbard, said: "I met with the administrator of the panel to get more data and clarify why the decision had been made.

"I am planning to set up another meeting. I am aware of the 10-year rule. I don't think the initial proposal is a closed thing.

"I definitely think Mr Hubbard warrants a plaque. Maybe the information we provided wasn't sufficient."

She said some of the controversies surrounding the movement "might have" played a part in the decision. "I would hope not," she added. "I would have hoped their decision was made objectively."

Ms Eicker insisted that Mr Hubbard was "well respected" enough to warrant a plaque, and said she would be asking English Heritage whether they had "discriminated" against Mr Hubbard.

"I don't know if there was discrimination or not," she added.

She said some of Scientology's well-known followers had visited the London property, but declined to reveal which ones.

The number of Scientologists has been put as high as 12 million, but the movement remains controversial. The organisation has been described in Parliament by Michael Gove, the Tory MP, as "an evil cult founded by an individual purely in the interests of enriching himself and sustained by those who are either wicked or wayward".

Recently, it was branded a "criminal organisation" in Australia, after a politician used parliamentary privilege to detail a series of allegations against its members there, including assault, imprisonment, embezzlement of church funds and blackmail. It was also claimed that the church had exerted pressure on some members to have abortions.

A spokesman for English Heritage said: "It was felt that since Mr Hubbard had died only relatively recently, in 1986, that more time was required to make an objective assessment of the importance and longevity of his achievements.

"The panel also noted that Mr Hubbard had no address in London which could be considered as comparatively settled, and moved around a great deal.

"If a proposal is not successful, it can be put forward again 10 years from the date of rejection, and English Heritage encourages proposers of plaques to take advantage of this."

All of Hubbard`s awards are just tributes to how far officials will go to
do something to stop Scientologists "visiting " them !!!

Post by: Ididntcomeback on December 04, 2009, 04:33:58 PM
                               New York

So This New Paul Thomas Anderson Movie Is Definitely About Scientology, Right?

    * 12/3/09 at 10:45 AM

Announced last night and already pretty much the upcoming movie we're most looking forward to, Paul Thomas Anderson's The Master will star Philip Seymour Hoffman in the title role as a charismatic dude who founds his own religion in 1952. The film's primary action will allegedly revolve around the clash between Hoffman's character and his second-in-command, a twentysomething guy named Freddie who comes to question what his boss is selling. So, even though Scientology's Wikipedia entry makes no mention of any troublemakers named Freddie, can we safely assume that the film will be a thinly veiled, Bowfinger-y slap at L. Ron Hubbard?

We're certainly going to! Despite Hoffman's physical resemblance to Hubbard and that Scientology was also founded in 1952, Variety claims "the drama does not so much scrutinize self-started churches like Scientology or the Mormons, as much as it explores the need to believe in a higher power, the choice of which one to embrace and the point at which a belief system graduates into a religion." But presumably they'd have to say something like that to get this thing made in Scientology-controlled Hollywood (Universal is apparently waiting on a final draft of the screenplay before it okays the film's $35 million budget).

We wonder if, to any degree, the idea for Master was inspired by Anderson's friendship with Jeremy Blake, the visual artist with whom he collaborated on 2002's Punch Drunk Love. As you'll recall, Blake and girlfriend Theresa Duncan took their own lives in 2007 under mysterious circumstances, with Duncan alleging they'd been harassed by Scientologists after the couple's friend Beck told them he was thinking about leaving the religion (Beck, of course, denied this). So we guess we probably shouldn't look for "Devil's Haircut" on The Master's soundtrack.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on December 05, 2009, 04:09:59 PM
                             Church officially seeks closure

GILMAN SPRINGS ROAD: Church officials say keeping road open . safety concerns.
By CHARLES HAND / The Valley Chronicle
Published: Friday, December 4, 2009 4:17 PM CST
The Church of Scientology is officially seeking the closure of Gilman Springs Road between Highway 79 and Soboba Road.

Golden Era Productions, the Scientology movie production studio, has asked Riverside County to remove the road from its circulation plan as the first step in vacating the road.

Verne Lauritzen, Riverside County Supervisor Jeff Stone’s chief of staff, said it is not likely Stone will support the application unless Scientology officials can present him with a plan to provide an alternative to the road that will carry more traffic and be safer than the existing road.

And that alternate route must be provided without taxpayer money, Lauritzen said.

The Scientologists announced the move in a news release issued Nov. 24.

Spokeswoman Catherine Fraser repeated the church’s contention that the road should be closed because it is unsafe, the same argument made in earlier discussions of the potential action.

In the news release, Fraser quoted Stone as saying he is willing to consider alternatives to Gilman Springs Road, but only if they result in improvements and involve no public money.

Lauritzen said “there is no thought” of closing the road in the absence of a safer route capable of carrying more traffic.

“Those who propose closure would have to have those answers,” he said.

Though she could not be reached by phone to discuss the closure concept, Fraser said in an e-mail that the church envisions using others’ money for road improvements.

“First because the studies we are funding have never been done no one really knows what are appropriate improvements and their costs,” she said in the e-mail. “Golden Era is committed to long-term regional traffic solutions and this effort will put a plan into place to identify those needs and costs so that all future developments pay their fair share.”

The church already has intruded into the road right-of-way with a video camera that records traffic headed southbound through the Scientology complex.

The camera is adjacent to a traffic sign on the north side of the road.

It is impossible to know when the camera operates, but at night a light is pointed at southbound drivers.

Another camera has been installed on the south end of the complex, which also has a light pointed at drivers at night.

The San Jacinto City Council went on record at a recent meeting as opposing the closure of the road under any circumstances.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on December 09, 2009, 04:49:18 PM
        Mother in lake plunge with disabled daughter had already killed her little      girl  by accident

By Luke Salkeld
Last updated at 12:35 AM on 09th December 2009


A florist is thought to have accidentally drowned her disabled daughter in a bath before throwing the girl and herself into a lake.

The bodies of Jude Richmond and her nine-year-old daughter Millie, who suffered from cerebral palsy, were found in the water next to their home, an inquest heard yesterday.

Mrs Richmond, whose customers included the Queen Mother, had suffered a mental breakdown and become obsessed with Scientology.
It is believed Jude Richmond may have drowned her daughter Millie in the bath by accident and then carried her into the lake near to their home, drowning herself in the process

It is believed Jude Richmond may have drowned her daughter Millie in the bath by accident and then carried her into the lake near to their home

She also developed a theory that her daughter's illness was caused by an allergy to metallic objects, and began administering experimental treatments.

Mrs Richmond's marriage had recently broken down, and it is thought she decided to kill herself and her child.

But at the inquest into their deaths yesterday a coroner ruled that it was impossible to tell whether Mrs Richmond, 41, had intended for either herself or her daughter to die.
41-year-old florist Jude Richmond is thought to have had a mental breakdown prior to the death of her daughter - blaming metal for her cerebral palsy

41-year-old florist Jude Richmond is thought to have had a mental breakdown prior to the death of her daughter - blaming metal for her cerebral palsy

The inquest heard that she 'probably' drowned her daughter while administering a massage treatment in the bath at their £550,000 home in South Cerney, Gloucestershire.

It is thought she then carried her body into a lake at the rear of their home, and jumped in.

It took police divers two days to find them after the family cleaner reported them missing.
Mental illness ran in Jude Richmond's family - the inquest heard that she displayed the 'classic signs' of bipolar disorder

Mental illness ran in Jude Richmond's family - the inquest heard that she displayed the 'classic signs' of bipolar disorder

The inquest heard that Mrs Richmond had recently returned from New Zealand with Millie after moving there with her stockbroker husband, who was Millie's stepfather.

The relationship had broken down.

She displayed 'classic signs of bipolar disorder', including dramatic mood swings, erratic behaviour and obsessive tendencies, and became convinced doctors had wrongly diagnosed Millie with cerebral palsy and that her condition was actually caused by an allergy to metal.
Police divers recovered the bodies of Jude and Millie from a lake right next to their home

Police divers recovered the bodies of Jude Richmond and her disabled daughter Millie from a lake right next to their home

She would demand that friends removed metal watches in her presence and would invite them to eat using ceramic cutlery.

Mrs Richmond also used ' experimental treatments' in a bid to cure her daughter, one of which involved rubbing massage oils and butter into Millie's skin.

On March 16 the housekeeper called police after she found the property in 'complete disarray' with no sign of Millie or her mother. Wet towels were strewn across the floor and the bath was found half full, surrounded by empty bottles of olive oil.

Gloucestershire Coroner Alan Crickmore said he was satisfied that the cause of death for both was drowning but could not be sure where they died.

Recording a verdict of accidental death for Millie and an open verdict for Mrs Richmond, he said: 'It is probably that in trying to assist Millie with one of her experimental treatments by massaging oil into Millie's skin in the bath she somehow drowned her and carried her into the lake.

'She may have then realised the enormity of her actions before taking her own life.'

He said it was possible that Mrs Richmond had actually carried her daughter into the lake while she was still alive and added that he could not be certain that she intended to kill herself.

The inquest heard that her family suffered a history of mental illness and that she experienced a 'psychotic episode' in the week leading up to her death.

In a statement, psychiatrist Laurence Mynors-Wallis, told the hearing that Mrs Richmond's behaviour was probably brought on through stresses in her relationship with her husband, her daughter's condition and the huge distances travelled in a short space of time.

Millie's stepfather Nick Richmond, 45, was on a plane back from New Zealand when the bodies were found.

He was told the news by police at Heathrow.

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Post by: Ididntcomeback on December 12, 2009, 06:40:07 PM
                        Michael Jackson Exploited By Scientologists!

His estate lawyers are going to flip!

Michael Jackson's likeness and music was used to promote a Scientology event in London! The invitation that used an illustration of Michael similar to the This Is It poster reads:

    THE OT COMMITTEE CC LONDON CORDIALLY INVITES YOU TO a spectacular evening celebrating one of the greatest artists of all time Michael Jackson in true Celebrity Centre style.

    · Get briefed by a Senior Executive from Celebrity Centre International on the plans for CC London.

    · Enjoy entertainment in honour of the King of Pop with dance troupe ‘Malfunktion’ and singer supreme Anton Lorien!

    · Find out what the OT Committee is all about and what their plans are for the Ideal CC London!

    Sunday, 6th December – 7.00pm
    Fitzroy House, 33-35 Fitzroy Street, London W1T 6DX
    Refreshments will be served.

    A spectacular evening that you will NOT want to miss!

    © 2009 Church of Scientology Religious Education College Inc. A non-profit organisation incorporated in South Australia. Registered Office 24-28 Waymouth Street, Adelaide, South Australia.

Michael's ex-wife Lisa Marie Presley is a Scientologist, but Michael never got brainwashed converted to the cult religion.

We bet his mother, a devout Jehovah's witness, won't be pleased about this either!

Read More: Perez Hilton: Michael Jackson Exploited By Scientologists!
Celebrity Juice, Not from Concentrate

Post by: Ididntcomeback on December 12, 2009, 06:44:23 PM

Post by: Ididntcomeback on December 16, 2009, 04:05:48 PM
           Scientology making an ass of itself as usual

              Lawsuit coming, despite Sandy Springs' OK of Scientology church

Scientology is coming to Sandy Springs – but a federal lawsuit is coming first.

“Absolutely,” said attorney William Woodson Galloway, when asked if the Church of Scientology will pursue a religious liberty lawsuit following a vote Tuesday that limited the size of the church in Sandy Springs. “We are not happy with the result.”

Post by: Ididntcomeback on December 23, 2009, 12:42:30 AM

                 Scientology expanding like a hot air balloon.

I was reading the 80-page Freedom Magazine put out by David Miscavige, and I came across this datum from a bulleted list of Scientology “expansion wins”:

“8,071 Scientology Churches, Missions and groups”

I got curious as to where all these “Churches, Missions and groups” are. You might have noticed that the Church no longer lists Org addresses in the back of the books. They used to list all Org and Mission addresses, but they stopped doing that. They just refer you to their website, with its nifty Scientology Org and Mission locator. You cannot find a complete org and mission list on the website, just this locator. So, in order to find out how many Orgs and Missions there are, you have to spend hours going through the locator, country by country.

Which I did.

Here’s my count: 140 Orgs, 342 Missions. I don’t vouch for its complete accuracy, but it’s pretty close. That’s a far cry from 8,071. Here’s what the breakdown looks like:

I went back and checked my copy of What is Scientology, from 1998, which dates from a time when they still published org and missions address lists. The count, from that list, is 143 Orgs, 230 Missions. So the number or Orgs is virtually the same. Sure, there have been a few new Orgs: Harlem, CC Nashville. But there have also been Orgs that have quietly disappeared: CC Portland, Copenhagen Org, Puerto Rico (downgraded to a Mission). So no real expansion there.

Missions have apparently increased by 112. Okay, fair enough, but nowhere near 8,000.

The Freedom Magazine tells us: “In just the last five years, the Church has literally doubled in size, from 4,000 Churches, Missions and groups in 2004 to over 8,000 in 2009 in 165 nations, doubled since 2004.”

So it’s a bit, shall we say, misleading, to talk about an expansion of “Orgs, Missions and Groups.” The claimed expansion has been, other than 112 Missions added in the last 10 years, entirely groups. Over 7,500 of them. Well, a legitimate question is, where are they?

Post by: Ididntcomeback on December 23, 2009, 06:45:49 AM
                        Bookathon stats   Read them and weep.

Dear All,

Here are the latest Book-a-thon Standings!

The EU Vikings rocket to the top of the standings at 510 books!
This team plays with heart and when they take to the streets the
reactive mind stands no chance against this assault! GO EU!!!

In Second place and hungry like the sharks they are, ANZO swoops up
in the standings with power plays coming from Taiwan and Tokyo! Rumor is that Tokyo is employing ancient Japanese war strategy and has something massive in the works. They politely deny any unpublished plans. Watch it.

In third place are the mighty LATAM LIBERATORS!! Venezuela crashed
onto the scene in full force and they are threatening to hit the LATAM
FSM sales button today -- that spells doomsday device for the reactive
mind! Watch out everyone, here comes LATAM! VIVA!!

And, a mere TWO books behind are the EUS EAGLES! New York is
storming manhattan and literally painting the town red with the
Dianetics t-shirts and tablecloths dotting the concrete jungle. They of course know the standings already and are out for taking over!

On the mission front, Belleair Mission in Clearwater is ripping it
up with 79 books sold -- total domination in the mission network! GO
BELLEAIR (and 100% DMSMH and DVDs I might add!)

In second place and rapidly catching up, New Orleans mission is
hammering against the reactive mind like the Mississippi in flood with
50 books sold -- no reactive levy can stop that kind of power!

But -- as I write this, the skype is lighting up, the in-box
filling with new reports and the phones are ringing off the hook! The
Bookathon of the decade is freight-training ahead at full steam!






1 EU 510
2 ANZO 448
3 LATAM 343
4 EUS 341
5 ITALY 258
6 WUS 152
7 CIS 133
8 AF 126
9 UK 56




2 NEW YORK 146
3 MILANO 115
5 ODD 94
6 TAMPA 79
8 MALMO 65
11 TOKYO 58
14 LONDON 45
17 PADOVA 33
21 SYDNEY 27
22 MOSCOW 27
23 BOGOTA 24
24 ZURICH 23
26 TEL AVIV 21
61 PARIS 17
30 DALLAS 16
31 VERONA 16
32 BOSTON 14
33 PERTH 14
34 ATHENS 14
37 MIAMI 13
43 TORINO 10
49 ITD 7
51 BASEL 7
54 CC NASH 6
55 BERN 5
58 IFAD 4
59 HAPI 4
64 OSLO 4
66 ROMA 4
71 CC INT 3
86 LYON 1
96 IFAR (LEON) 1
98 ACD 1




1 Belleair 79
2 New Orleans 40
3 Odessa 31
4 Redwood City 24
5 Bitza 20
6 Modena 18
7 Modena 18
8 Buenaventura 13
9 Barletta 11
10 Omsk 11
11 Barletta 11
12 Harkov 8
13 Como 8
14 Costa Rica 7
15 Zaporozie 7
16 Cagliari 6
17 Dimitrovgrad 6
18 Cagliari 6
19 Riverpark 5
20 Nishnekamsk 4
21 Como 4
22 Baton Rouge 3
23 Chelny 3
24 Gorky 3
25 Slavutich 3
26 Sumy 3
27 Nairobi 3
28 Los Feliz 2
29 Sonoma 2
30 West Valley 2
31 Bishkek 2
32 Krasnodar 2
33 Novgorod ii 2
34 Penza 2
35 Tolyatti 2
36 Tulitsa 2
37 Vladimirvolynsky2
38 Berkeley 1
39 Fresno 1
40 Almaty 1
41 Barnaul 1
42 Murmansk 1
43 Nizhny-novgorod 1
44 Novokuznetsk 1
45 Perm 1
47 Verhnedenprovsk 1
48 Lagos 1

Should I mention that the way to happiness counts as a book. ?
Should I mention that staff buy books themselves rather than report zero sales ?
Should I mention that staff false report so they don`t get assigned lower conditions ?

Post by: Ididntcomeback on December 31, 2009, 04:17:35 PM
        Three of Scientology's elite parishioners keep faith, but leave the church

By Joe Childs and Thomas C. Tobin, Times Staff Writers
In Print: Thursday, December 31, 2009

Post by: Ididntcomeback on December 31, 2009, 04:21:48 PM
               Scientology's Paramilitary "Sea Org" is Looking for Suckers

Article and pics here...

Post by: AnonKiwi on January 01, 2010, 01:33:28 AM
Thanks for posting all this news :)

Post by: Ididntcomeback on January 01, 2010, 09:40:30 PM
                   Scientology 2009…Year Of Epic Fail

As you can imagine this is quite lengthy...
But great fun to read.
To see Scientology creating problems for itself is confirmation
that the tech has been "altered considerably."
Hubbard warned about this in KSW # 1.

It`s obvious to anyone who looks at the problem with all
the information that scientology is being driven onto the rocks.
There can only be one person to hold accountable...the captain.

Shame Hubbard never wrote any policy on how to oust a bad leader.
Therefore rendering his gift to the world marked for extinction.

See what Miscavige`s leadership has achieved in just one year...

Post by: Ididntcomeback on January 06, 2010, 11:32:32 PM
                AGP accepts plea bargain in pansies stomping case...

I received word of this from Graham Berry a while ago:

From AGP's website:

Jan. 5, 2010 Murrieta Courthouse, Riverside CA -

I showed up in court today almost a year after being charged with misdemeanor pansy stomping vandalism under $400. The DA had previously offered to end this and I wouldn't have to pay the full amount of damages but I refused. So this time they made a better offer.

If I would cop a plea to stay away from Gold Base for two years and pay a $205 fine all charges would be dropped. My lawyer and I felt this was an acceptable offer so I took it. This had been a very productive and fruitful enterprise so far but the only thing I would have gained had I stuck with the case (and won) would be getting Catherine Fraser in trouble with the law. Why?


The officer who issued me the pansy stomping citation noted the damaged plants were worth less than $400. This is important because if it was more than $400 it is a more serious crime. Because they had me on camera, the Scientologists thought I would plead guilty.

They decided to concoct a fake flower invoice of almost $3,000 and say it was from a local grower called "The Color Connection." The charge was changed to vandalism OVER $400. They wanted me in bigger trouble and they wanted me to pay a lot more money in restitution.

Unfortunately for them I pled "not guilty" and a trial had to be arranged. I did not believe for a minute that I had done almost $3,000 worth of damage.

So I requested my own invoice from The Color Connection, the only grower in the area that had such flowers available. It showed:

1. The Color Connection doesn't do installations even though the cult's invoice said they do. They just grow the plants. I was told the brother of the owner should be contacted if I wanted to talk about planting the flowers. The brother said this would cost less than $200.

2. Plants aren't available for purchase in the quantities mentioned on the cult invoice

3. The cult invoice looks nothing like their invoices

4. The "real" invoice shows each plant worth about .75 cents. The cult invoice says each installed plant is worth over $9, a 1240% markup!

When Catherine Harrison, the woman from the Color Connection, was questioned she said she knew nothing about the Scientology invoice, that there was no record of it in their system, that the prices were much too high and it didn't look like their invoices.

The next time I went to court Catherine Fraser looked very meek because they knew we had talked to the Color Connection. But the cultists didn't tell their own District Attorney Steve Allen about the fake invoice. He was very puzzled as to what was going on and why we were going to bring in a surprise rebuttal witness. "What is to rebut?" the DA thought, "we've got him on video doing it."

Things were looking very good for getting Catherine Fraser nailed for falsifying evidence. The case might even get thrown out because of this so we were careful not to mention it to anybody.

My lawyer Graham Berry wanted to wait until we were in court on the stand and someone mentioned the price of the flowers. Then he could wave the second, nonfiction invoice, and say AHA! Liars!


Then the cultists leaned on Bill Shinkle the flower farmer. They probably told him they would never buy flowers from him again if he didn't do what they wanted. Right when he business is at it's worst thanks to the economy. Suddenly his girlfriend Catherine Harrison said she didn't know what she was talking about.

Bill Shinkle said the invoices look different because he changed computers and systems (quickbooks). Suddenly the flowers that were on the original phony cult invoice weren't good enough and there was stupid debate about 4" vs. 6" plants and other nonsense.

He became a hostile witness. "I only supply and plant the flowers" Shinkle said. "I don't know what they do there and I do not want to know what they do there."

Fortunately the invoice claimed a preposterous $4.64 planting fee per plant. We still had great evidence that their invoice was from the moon but the witness would have to be cross examined harshly. Treating a local man badly could have affected the jury and we were concerned.


Today when the DA offered a plea bargain in which I didn't have to pay anything back to the Scientologists I decided to finally take them up on their offer. Since I have not been to Gold Base in almost a year it was not a big deal to be barred from going there.

I will be on probation for two years but after about half that time, if I have engaged in good behavior, I can petition to be allowed back to Gold base to protest. After two years my record will be expunged.

What started out as an attempt to get the Hemet police to show up and do their duty turned into a very useful exercise. It allowed my lawyer to meet and learn about the DAs and judges at the Murietta Justice Center.

Because Anonorange and I were there on Pansygate business we caught Riverside Super Jeff Stone as an alleged accessory to kidnapping. The Scientologists were forced to waste time dealing with me and paying their superexpensive lawyer Elliot Abelson.

He even had to rent a room in Murietta last night to be ready for today. His hotel room probably cost more than the $205 in fines I paid to the state, not the cult. In return I got out of Scientology's Hemet CA hair for a while.

Although I was disappointed not to catch Catherine Fraser behaving badly it was a good deal for everyone except my lawyer. "I really wanted to try this case!" he complained.

To see the numbers behind the nonsense invoice click here.

Meanwhile on many fronts my lawyer remarked that Scientology is very quiet right now. We suspect it is because their numbers are way down and they are infighting. Much like the LA based protesters!

AGP has posted photos of "Catherine Fraser's falsified evidence" on his site:

Post by: Ididntcomeback on January 08, 2010, 04:05:20 PM
Posted on Jan 7, 2010 | by Art Toalston

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (BP)—The Church of Scientology placed a "free personality test" -- Scientology's "Oxford Capacity Analysis" -- as a paid insert into The Tennessean newspaper Jan. 7 asking in a large typeface, "Are you curious about yourself?"

Though named the "Oxford Capacity Analysis," the 200-question Scientology assessment was not developed by Oxford University nor does it have any tie to the famed university. The Scientology "personality test" is described by various Internet sources as a Scientology recruitment tool used worldwide on Scientology websites, in Scientology churches and in public settings such as fairs and festivals. It also has been criticized by psychologists as not a bonafide personality test.

Scientology is listed among "New Religious and Cults" on the Southern Baptist North American Mission Board's website

The Scientology newspaper insert can be mailed postage-paid to the Scientology office in Nashville.

"We will call you as soon as we receive it and set up an appointment for your confidential analysis," the insert states on one of its four pages.

On another page, the insert states, "Find out how your personality determines your ability to handle relationships. Discover the factors about yourself that cause you stress. Just fill out this questionnaire and send it in. You will receive in person an in-depth, accurate analysis of the results of your test from an expert evaluator, obligation-free."

Young people under age 18 are asked to have a parent or guardian sign the questionnaire.

Baptist Press made inquiries into whether the Scientology personality test has been inserted into other newspapers across the country, but BP had not yet received any reports of such instances at the time of posting this article.

Tal Davis, interfaith coordinator for the North American Mission Board's people group/interfaith evangelism team, described to Baptist Press the recruitment strategy for Scientology's Oxford Capacity Analysis: "It is sort of a 'bait and switch' method. They ask people to take the free test, then use it to tell them that Scientology can help them overcome the problems that the test supposedly revealed. It is a tool simply to get people to buy into the strange, unscientific and unChristian system designed by L. Ron Hubbard. I would recommend that Christians stay away from it."

Hubbard incorporated the Church of Scientology International in 1954 after the publication of his initial book in 1950, "Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health." Hubbard, who later became a recluse, died in 1986 aboard his yacht.

The North American Mission Board's website includes an overview of Scientology's beliefs alongside a Christian response, pointers for witnessing to Scientologists, and a brief history of Scientology and a list of the cult-religion's publications and affiliate organizations.

Also at is an article by a former Scientologist, Karen Pressley, who turned to faith in Christ after 16 years in the cult-religion, including four years as an international headquarters staff member.

In the Scientology overview at, the section on God states, "The Church of Scientology International has no clear definition of the nature or person of God. References to a Supreme Being are rare in Scientology literature, calling it the 'eight dynamic' or 'infinity.' The Supreme Being is defined in vague, pantheistic terms as embracing the 'allness of all.'"

The section's biblical response states, "God is the eternal, infinite, personal Creator of the universe (Gen. 1; Deut. 6:4). He is Spirit (Num. 23:19; John 4:24) and has existed from all eternity in a triune form: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit (Matt. 28:19; 1 Cor. 12:4-6)."

Pressley, in her article "Out of Scientology's Labyrinth" at the NAMB website, writes in part, "... the sun never sets on a day that I do not think about the Scientology-driven life I left behind, and give thanks for my new life. Now, instead of despising my moment-to-moment existence ... I live free in Christ with an attitude of gratitude for God's miraculous deliverance from Scientology, and for the new life He has given me."

Pressley now leads Wings of Love Ministries, which she founded "to raise people's awareness about Scientology through publishing and speaking services to churches, academic organizations, conferences, and media," according to her website.

An introduction to faith in Christ can be accessed online from NAMB at
Art Toalston is editor of Baptist Press.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on January 10, 2010, 04:02:08 PM
Download the latest Freedom Magazine.

13 MB.

Or from one of these download sites...

Post by: Ididntcomeback on January 11, 2010, 04:10:01 PM
                    Collection of Hubbard papers unveiled

By TONY CASTRO Los Angeles Daily News - Published: January 10, 2010

LOS ANGELES — They're calling them the Church of Scientology's Dead Sea Scrolls.

More than 1,000 lost pieces of Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard's work were unveiled in a New Year's celebration at the Shrine Auditorium in Los Angeles that was broadcast to churches around the world last week.

"This is breakthrough — it would be like Christianity finding lost Gospels on the teachings of Jesus Christ," said Bill Orozco, a Los Angeles consultant who has worked with Scientology's Celebrity Centre in Hollywood.

In its five-plus decades of existence, Scientology has grown to include millions of members worldwide, including high-profile celebrities such as actors John Travolta and Tom Cruise.

But it remains a controversial practice, one that critics liken to a cult that takes financial advantage of its members. The church strongly objects to such accusations. But its status as an official religion remains disputed in many countries throughout the world.

The newly released materials include 1,020 lectures and hundreds of corresponding booklets from courses and other sessions with Scientology ministers from 1953 to 1961.

They include discussions of how Hubbard, who started the religion in California in the 1950s, arrived at the principles of Dianetics and his research on everything from decision-making to personal responsibility.

Some of the materials were believed to have been lost.

Church leaders said the documents are the culmination of a 25-year project to locate, restore and transcribe lost pieces of the Scientology founder's work.

Scientology official Pamela Lancaster, whose late husband was involved in tracking down Hubbard's lost works, said there are no doubts the materials are genuine.

"They are hand-written notes and day diaries in Mr. Hubbard's own handwriting and lectures in his own voice," said Lancaster, public affairs director of the Celebrity Centre.

"This means so much to us. We can finally train people as if Mr. Hubbard were here himself."

Lee Holzinger, a spokesman for the Scientology church missions in Ventura and Santa Barbara, said the discoveries will add important new writings and lectures by Hubbard to the church's literature.

"Our church is still relatively young, but so much has happened in half a century, and now with this, it is finally approaching full development," said Holzinger. "It's taken such a long project to make all this knowledge that he developed and documented made available to everyone."

The discovery of lost Hubbard works, however, could open an unexpected Pandora's box for Scientologists, according to Jody Myers, professor of religious studies at California State University, Northridge.

"It is not an unknown phenomenon in religions to find early documents written by the church's founders," said Myers. "The issue is: Are they authentic early documents or have they been created by people who want a change in the direction of the church? This is true of all religions.

"As a religious scholar, what I can say is that sometimes people want their church to go in a different direction and what follows is the discovery of ancient texts."

But leaders of the Church of Scientology maintain the recovered works of their leader are significant.

Tommy Davis, the head of the church's Celebrity Centre in Hollywood and son of actress and Scientologist Anne Archer, compared the findings to "discovering that Buddha, unbeknownst to anybody, had sat down and wrote down the entirety of his discoveries and it could be verified that he wrote it."

Lancaster, a member for four decades, likened the findings to "if someone in Jesus' time had recorded all the wonderful lectures Jesus had with his disciples."

"It's so huge for our religion having these materials. It's really a renaissance," said Davis. "It's as if it's a rediscovery of our own scriptures and what they hold and what they mean."

Jane Dockery, executive director of the Simi Valley Scientology mission in Moorpark, said she has already ordered copies of all the materials — contained on 970 compact discs and corresponding booklets in 57 binders costing $7,500.

"Scientology is the study of wisdom, and it's good to know we now have all the wisdom and all it's missing pieces," she said.

"For us, it feels like we're securing our spiritual future."

According to officials, the papers were recovered through a painstaking hunt included finding tapes and documents in a Wichita, Kan., basement, a storage trailer in Phoenix, and a garage in Oakland, Calif.

The release of the documents marks the third and final batch of Hubbard works to be distributed as part of the decades-long project initiated by Hubbard himself but carried out after his 1986 death by the church's current leader, David Miscavige.

Releases in 2005 and 2007 included updated versions of 18 basic Scientology books to correct transcriptional errors, as well as hundreds of other lectures given by Hubbard.

"It's so huge for our religion having these materials. It's really a renaissance," said Davis. "It's as if it's a rediscovery of our own scriptures and what they hold and what they mean."

Finding LOST tech surely means Hubbard was sloppy.
Is that what the cult is saying ???

Post by: Ididntcomeback on January 14, 2010, 07:35:56 PM

      Author of My Billion Year Contract reflects on life in elite Scientology group

Interview with Nancy Many

Post by: Ididntcomeback on January 15, 2010, 07:07:23 AM
    Scientology discussed in the House of Lords;"not accepted as Church for last 30years"

    Equality Bill
House of Lords debates, 13 January 2010, 3:55 pm

The word scientology is highlighted in yellow

Post by: Ididntcomeback on January 15, 2010, 07:37:00 AM
                              Scientology defector tells all
Many's Rivers to Cross Dept.
By CHRIS FARAONE  |  January 13, 2010

Post by: Ididntcomeback on January 20, 2010, 04:10:25 PM
           Jeff Conaway Accident: Suffers Fractured Neck, Brain Hemorrhage

  Remember "the actor" from Taxi...

(Over acted every single line he had.)

by Yuliya Talmazan | January 19, 2010 at 08:46 am

Grease star Jeff Conaway, 59, was injured in a freak accident when he fell down a flight of stairs on Monday at his home in Los Angeles, California. Entertainment news portal TMZ reports that Conaway broke his hips and arm, fractured his neck and suffered a brain hemorrhage, which involves bleeding into the brain tissue. He was rushed to hospital and is set for an immediate surgery.

While fractures to hips and arms are usually not life-threatening, breaking one's neck and sustaining a brain hemorrhage can have serious consequences. Spinal cord and neck injuries could be fatal and immobilizing, depending on the vertebrae involved. Brain hemorrhages involving essential cranial or vagus nerve are almost always fatal. Other kinds of hemorrhages can have a death rate as high as 50%.

It is not clear why Conaway fell, or if there is foul play involved.

Conaway allegedly had substance abuse problems in the past. He was linked to the Church of Scientology through his connection to actor John Travolta.

Conaway is most famous for his role of Kenickie in the famous motion picture musical Grease. He also starred in Taxi and Babylon 5.

photos and article here...

Post by: Ididntcomeback on January 20, 2010, 04:17:34 PM
                       Travolta flies Volunteer ministers to Haiti.

   Hope Xenu gets blamed for the earthquake.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on January 22, 2010, 03:54:21 PM

                      Don't panic Haiti, the Scientologists are coming!

For our good friends from the church of L Ron, it's not so much a tragedy as an opportunity

Psychopath, conman, liar, fantasist, fraudster, bully, tax evader, megalomaniac – it's fair to say L Ron Hubbard's death was a blow to global humanitarianism. Happily, there is a silver lining to the cloud that has hung over Earth since the founder of Scientology shed his corporeal form in 1986. That silver- lining is the high profile, expansionist figures who represent his organisation today – and the good news is that they're turning their thoughts to Haiti.

Were an idiot like you to itemise the myriad things that this most wretched of disaster zones currently lacked, chances are you'd omit "militant Scientologists who claim post-traumatic stress is a conspiracy created by the evil psychiatric profession, and who believe the correct response to extreme shock is to touch sufferers with one finger, before attempting to convert them to the ways of Hubbard".

All I can say is, thank God for John Travolta. The Wild Hogs legend has unveiled his response to the unfolding crisis, announcing: "I have arranged for a plane to take down some Volunteer Ministers and some supplies and some medics." For the medics and supplies John must obviously be thanked, but for the Volunteer Ministers – arriving in Haiti via Air Travolta along with scores from other Scientology churches – the same cannot be said.

According to an official press release, the corps will be on hand to dispense "spiritual first aid" to Haitians. Because really, nothing should feel more appropriate right now than gadding about Port-au-Prince offering survivors the chance to be hooked up to an e-meter. Hopefully if they find any gay people, they can begin curing them.

For the Volunteer Ministers, you see, a tragedy is not so much a tragedy as a tragitunity.

But please, don't take Lost in Showbiz's word for it – take that of L Ron himself, who personally decreed the strategy he called "Casualty Contact", in which he advised Scientologists to scan newspapers for reports of accidents or bereavements, searching for "people who have been victimised one way or another by life".

Stipulating that one way to do this was to trawl hospitals, Hubbard declared of the ambulance-chasing Scientologist that, "He should represent himself . . . as a minister whose compassion was compelled by the newspaper story concerning the person [. . .] However, in handling the press he should simply say that it is a mission of the church to assist those who are in need of assistance. He should avoid any lengthy discussions of Scientology and should talk about the work of ministers and how all too few ministers these days get around to places where they are needed. It's straight recruiting!"

Casualty Contact has since modulated into the Volunteer Ministers programme, whose yellow tents are increasingly visible at high-profile disaster sites, and often enlivened by special appearances by their celebrity adherents. Within these tents Scientologists administer the aforementioned Touch Assists, whose purpose is to "speed the Thetan's ability to heal or repair a condition with his body".

After 9/11, aid agencies at Ground Zero voiced concern that the Volunteer Ministers had displayed their leaflets around the disaster site and operated in the restricted area without authorisation until this was pointed out to the police, who then denied them access. Two days after the tragedy, and presenting themselves as an organisation called National Mental Health Assistance, representatives of the Church of Scientology duped Fox News into running the church's freephone number for five hours on the bottom of the screen, apparently in the belief that it was the official outreach hotline. Fox News removed it after an irate intervention from the real National Mental Health Association.

"The public needs to understand that the Scientologists are using this tragedy to recruit new members," the president of the NMHA stated. "They are not providing mental health assistance."

Au contraire, say the Scientologists, who claim they provide a unique brand of "meaningful help" during catastrophes. They were there after the tsunami, after Katrina – with added Travolta – and in Beslan, before being asked to leave after the local Russian health ministry judged their techniques unhelpful to already severely traumatised children.

And of course they were there after the 7 July attacks, when an undercover BBC investigation taped the leader of the London branch of the Church's anti-psychiatry movement laughing that their role in the immediate aftermath of the bombings was "fighting the psychiatrists; keeping the psychs away [from survivors]". One survivor who happened to have mental health training voiced his shock that Scientologists had attempted to recruit him and others.

What sort of numbers they'll do in Haiti remains to be seen, but hats off to Travolta and the church leaders for deploying in this way. As for Scientology's most famous face, do recall "the Mr Cruise response to 9/11" – setting up the First New York Hubbard Detox project where firemen who had breathed in the World Trade Centre dust were encouraged to submit to the "Purification Rundown", discarding their medication and taking endless saunas along with high doses of niacin, much to the despair of their doctors. Whether even Tom's nuclear self-confidence extends to mooting the First Port-au-Prince Hubbard Detox Project, only time will tell.

See photo here...

Post by: Ididntcomeback on January 23, 2010, 04:25:05 PM
   Jeff Conaway, 59, Wants A Home Death, Viking Funeral (VIDEO)

'Celebrity Rehab' fixture Jeff Conaway can't kick his prescription drug habit and wants to die at home, his girlfriend, Vikki Lizzi, tells E! News.

"This is just devastating," Lizzi said. "I tried to save him from himself by trying to get him help...He wants to die at home. He knows the meds are killing him. He can't get off them."

The former 'Grease' star, 59, is even telling Lizzi about what he imagines for his funeral.

"He's talking about being burned on a boat and sent out to sea like a Viking funeral. It sends chills up my spine," she said. "We're all trying to save his life, and he's not listening."

Two years ago Conaway said that Scientology, which his 'Grease' costar John Travolta introduced him to, helped him get clean. Lizzi told E! that Travolta sent Conaway flowers this week and Dr. Drew has been consulting with him, but he is stubborn and needs and intervention.

An earlier quote... According to Conaway,

 "I've been doing doctor was like, Holy cow, he says whatever you've been doing keep doing it because it's really working."

Conaway says his former Grease co-star John Travolta introduced him to the controversial religion. "John and I stayed friends but he couldn't watch me going down the tubes...he gave me a whole library of Scientology books and he's given me an auditor who comes almost every day."

We all live in HOPE !!!

Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 01, 2010, 03:47:14 PM
This is not even slightly related to "the cult"

However it shows many signs being held by protesters
over 2009.

There are plenty here. Check out the links at the bottom.

Some of these are classic.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 04, 2010, 03:25:39 PM
          One of the performers on Ron`s  hit (the bottom of rubbish bins) album..."The road to Feedom."           

                       Leif Garrett out on bond after drug bust

February 3, 2010 7:11 p.m. EST
Leif Garrett was "shaking and sweating" when deputies approached him at a subway station on Monday.
Leif Garrett was "shaking and sweating" when deputies approached him at a subway station on Monday.
                                    STORY HIGHLIGHTS

    * L.A. County authorities: Leif Garrett posts $10,000 bond after two days in a jail
    * Garrett was found with heroin and arrested Monday, sheriff's spokesman says
    * The former teen idol was arrested four years ago for possession of heroin
    * Garrett was 16 when he scored his first pop chart hit, "Surfin' USA," in 1977

Los Angeles, California (CNN) -- Former teen idol Leif Garrett posted a $10,000 bond Wednesday after spending two days in a jail on a drug charge, a Los Angeles County sheriff's spokesman said.

Garrett, 48, was arrested Monday at a downtown Los Angeles train station after police found heroin in his shoe, spokesman Steve Whitmore said.

He was 16 when he scored his first pop chart hit, "Surfin' USA," in 1977. It was followed by a four-year run of songs that kept young girls swooning and teens dancing.

When deputies approached Garrett Monday morning at the Metrolink station, he was "acting in a pronounced way, shaking and sweating," Whitmore said.

Garrett told them he was "nervous around law enforcement because of other meetings with them in the past," he said.

The singer did jail time four years ago after he was arrested with heroin while he stood on a subway platform at another Los Angeles transit station.

This time, Garrett told the officers that he had no drugs and he agreed to let them search him, Whitmore said.

As they searched, Garrett told them he did have a little heroin in his shoe. "That was found and it was black tar heroin," Whitmore said.

Garrett was taken to the East Los Angeles sheriff's station, where he was booked and held on bond. His court date is February 24, Whitmore said.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 10, 2010, 07:04:14 AM
Mind control cults...

Watch video...

Post by: NED on February 10, 2010, 03:09:10 PM
That video was really well done.  I saw so many similarities.  Wow, it is so nice being out of that grasp now and being able to look.  Really look.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 25, 2010, 12:10:05 AM
                 Understanding What a Cult is and How They Work

See video here.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 01, 2010, 10:02:38 AM
                                         Beyond the Darklands.

Nigel Latta takes a look at the life of Bert Potter, the cult leader whose Centrepoint dream collapsed amid convictions for drug dealing and underage sex.

Don`t worry Scientology... Your turn is coming.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 03, 2010, 11:30:02 AM
  For those who have seen Zeitgeist the movie
or Zeitgeist Addendum
Two must see movies

The venus project is coming to NZ

For more info on all this..

Or directly here for NZ...

Zeitgeist addendum is watchable here (above) as well.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 03, 2010, 07:53:05 PM
                   Northumbria Anonymous DERAIL New Ideal Org!
Okay, so I guess there's no harm in posting this now, I'm sure Hodkin and Co will have recieved their letter from Gateshead Council :D


Northumberland Anons have been working on putting a spanner in the works of the new Ideal Org being built in Gateshead. The building in question is a former care home which was bought by our old friend Richard Pickles (through Hodkin and Slimy Bastards) with no mention of Scientology. Now, by the time we actually found out that they were planning the Ideal Org, they had already had the planning permission approved (change of use to a 'place of religious worship'). So short of flyering, there wasn't much we could do, or so we thought.

BUT we did have one angle of attack. The legality of their 'religion' status, or lack thereof, in this country. Initially Gateshead Council said 'the nature of the religion is not a material planning consideration, in other words 'whatever the religion actually do is none of our business'. However we pressed on at the fact that Scientology is not legally recognised as a religion in this country, and recently got this reply:

Dear Mr Cranston

I apologise for the delay in responding to you but you will appreciate some research ws required into this matter.

It is the case in my opinion that the nature of the religion is not a material consideration. What is also true is that the Church of Scientology is not recognised as a religion in this country as you point out.

The Church of Scientology did not apply for planning permission, the application was made by a Mr Pickles who used his agent Hodkin And Company to make the application.

The only connection with the Church of Scientology, as I understand it, is that Hodkin And Company have acted for that organisation, that is not to say this application is being made by them.

A Place of Worship falls under a D1 use class and because the D1 class covers a number of other potential uses the Council restricted the use within D1 by condition to a place of worship. If the Church of Scientology implement the permission then my view at this time would be that they would be in breach of the condition as they are not a legally recognised religion in this country

This would not prevent the organisation applying to have a D1 use under say a non residential educational/training establishment which would have to be assessed on its merits at that time. They could do this with a new application or by seeking planning consent to vary the condition from Place of Worship to non residential educational establishment under D1, again this would need assessed on its merits.

At this time however the planning permission has not been implemented and therefore no breach has taken place and there is nothing to prevent a recognised religious group implementing the consent.

I hope this information is of assistance to you.

Yours sincerely,

Andrew Hickie
Development Control Manager
Development Control
Regulatory Services
Development and Enterprise
Gateshead Council

There you have it IN WRITING from a city council, Scientology is not legally recognised as a religion in the UK.

Notice however, the bit about Pickles and Hodkin, luckily thanks to some speedy work by UK Anons we fired off a load of stuff that proves Pickles and Hodkin are Scilons. Also, The Shadow questioned why a single individual can make an application for a 'place of religious worship' without actually naming the religion. And got this:

Dear Mr Cranston

Thank you for the detailed information.

The Council can receive planning applications from any individual. Religion is not a material consideration but the activities of the religion are material such as hours of operation, potential noise, highway issues etc. and in this case whilst the "religion" was not named the applicant provided sufficient detail as to these land use planning issues for the Council to consider the impacts of the use of the building.

The situation remains however that no breach of the planning permission has occurred so no action is necessary.

The Council will however write to Mr Pickles as applicant and his agent Hodkin and Company to confirm the Councils opinion that if the planning permission were to be implemented by the Church of Scientology then we believe they would be in breach of the planning condition which restricts the use to a Church/Place of Worship. In that way I hope you feel we will have taken a proactive approach to ensuring no breach occurs.

I appreciate that you are vehemently against the group in question but you will appreciate my role and that of my department is to deal with land use planning matters.

Yours sincerely

Andrew Hickie

Now we could have waited for them to set up shop and then reported them. BUT that meant giving them the foothold, and The Shadow had visions (inb4 Raziel) of them using legal wrangling/bribery to get out of it, and therefore keeping 'place of religious worship'. That's the worst case. At best, they would have had to do what they will have to do now anyway, which is have a think and come up with new planning permission under a different land use. Any new planning permission will have to be assessed by the council, who are now fully aware of who they're really dealing withm and the fact that they have tried to decieve the council will surely not go in their favour. But most importantly, we can do something which we couldn't do the first time around because they already had the planning permission granted before we even knew about it. We can raise objections to the new planning permission, and we can get the public to do so as well.'s a win. Sort of. We've delayed them, for how long even The Shadow does not know! Judging by the state of the building I didn't see them hitting the 'All UK orgs must be Ideal Org standard by December 2010' deadline anyway, but this won't help them either.

Meanwhile, if you have a UK Ideal Org near you, the planning permission for which was granted under 'place of religious worship' and was filed with no mention of Scientology...CONGRATULATIONS, you can now report them for breaching the planning permission.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 04, 2010, 05:50:55 PM
            Organized scientology and the IRS – request for help

Want to know why the IRS is not coming down on organized scientology now?

The people in the IRS who really understood and fought organized scientology in the 1970s and 1980s are either dead or otherwise retired from the service.

There is no longer a continuity of information on organized scientology within the IRS.

There are many people within the IRS’ Criminal Investigations Division and within the Exempt Org divisions and other relevant areas of the IRS who really know nothing of any substance about organized scientology.

Yet out here many people know of perhaps many reasons why organized scientology’s special recognitions/exemptions from the IRS should end.

For example I believe there to be a major public policy issue where it can be shown that the level of abuses and other misdeeds within organized scientology are so pervasive that it can be demonstrated that organized scientology gives no public service and thus should not have tax exempt status.

Then there is the matter IMO of the many perjuries and false statements by David Miscavige and others he runs both in courts and to the IRS that were depended upon to grant the exemptions.

Of course there is the matter of all the money and perks Miscavige gets from organized scientology that might well rise to the level of inurement.

Plus there is that special agreement in 1993 that granted all the exemptions. Has organized scientology lived up to their end of what they promised to do in that agreement? There is some information available that says they have not come close to doing that.

What about all the records that some have said were hidden, destroyed or created in order to present a false picture to the IRS in order that the IRS grant tax exempt status? People have spoken about that but can it be proven now? Is anyone with information on this willing to testify?

I am thinking out loud about the above because I am about to speak with and then make a short submission to someone who can do something about all this and very possibly get the IRS looking into organized scientology again. If they do get active on this, they have the power to do a lot more than just revoke tax exempt statuses.

The submission must be short (two pages at most) and to the point giving the who, where, what and why of it all and why the IRS really needs to look at this subject again. It can link to sites containing important information along the above lines and this is where I can especially use some help.

If I have the ear of someone who can do something and who is willing to listen and read what I say, what are some of the best sites and information that can be linked to to help them really understand the issues and why they need to take action?

In doing the submission we have to assume people who read it really know nothing of any substance on scientology’s history with the IRS or why the IRS needs to take action now.

Obviously I have more than “leaked” that this submission is being made and there are people who can do something about this going to read it. Obviously the bad guys are going to read this. Tough! It’s going to happen no matter what they do.

So I am asking for any brief input that anyone wants to give me via private email (, with the “AT” representing the “@” symbol). I especially am looking for really good links I can give in my report that would help investigators who know little on this topic to somehow easily come up to speed on issues of importance. If anyone wants to chat with me on this we can arrange to talk on the phone after exchanging emails.

In a little over a week I must go off to do something where I may not be available for a couple of weeks or more after that. I am going to get this submission done before that as above. In fact I really need to make this submission by Monday March 8.

Although there are no guarantees that much or anything will come from this, I can assure you that we do have the ear of someone who can do something about all this and I would find it very helpful to get some great input/links as above.

If you have been sitting in the background waiting for a chance to do something, and you have information related to the above and are willing to share it with me, now is the time to do it.

Anonymous emails giving good links or other such information will be well received.

Larry Brennan

Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 05, 2010, 07:59:57 AM
Got a letter from the Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) this morning.

I posted the complaint before here, but I reckon it belongs in Leaks & Legal. Admins move/delete as appropriate.

tl;dr The ASA works, and it helps people.

"Dear Mr SLW,

Thank you for contacting us to make a complaint. We have taken it up with the Church of Scientology. Based on the information you provided, it appears you have a valid point and, with a view to acting quickly, we have instructed the advertiser to remove te claim [that the OCA 'personality test' will be available] "for a limited time". Once we get an assurance from them that they will change the ad in a way we consider resolves the complaint, we will close the case...

Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 20, 2010, 07:45:34 AM
                        Pohlad to back cult filmmaker's cult film?

Paul Thomas Anderson, Associated Press
We always take reports in the movie trade press with a 10-pound bag of rock salt, but this is too cool to ignore.
The website Deadline New York says that Paul Thomas Anderson is in serious negotioations with Bill Pohlad’s River Road Entertainment to produce his new Scientology-themed tale “The Master.”
The film had been under consideration at Universal, but the studio, stung by recent boxoffice disappointments (notably Matt Damon’s underperforming “The Green Zone”), balked at the period drama’s $35 million pricetag. That’s not much as mainstream movies go, but for challenging upscale fare, it’s pretty rich.
Script reviews describe the project as an exploration of themes Anderson examined in his oil well epic “There Will Be Blood;” the influence of messianic religious figures on their followers and the bonds between fathers and sons.
Set in the 1950s, "The Master" concerns the intense relationship between an allegorical L. Ron Hubbard figure who establishes a rapidly growing new sect, and a young drifter who finds his identity under the religious leader’s wing. The seeker is an alcoholic who brews his own beer; one extra-strong batch gives a fellow drinker convulsions. That's just the sort of dark water-into-wine and Holy Roller metaphor that Anderson delights in. Philip Seymour Hoffman is set to star as the eccentric visionary. “The Hurt Locker’s” Jeremy Renner is the leading candidate to play the wayward man looking for meaning in his life.
The River Road deal sounds plausible. Anderson, who wrote and directed “Boogie Nights,” “Magnolia” and “Punch Drunk Love,”  is the sort of high-toned auteur whose work River Road routinely supports. Anderson was on set as stand-by director throughout the filming of the Pohlad-produced “A Prairie Home Companion” in case the ailing Robert Altman needed a second-in-command.
River Road, which likes to play its cards close to the chest about such matters, has not responded to email and phone requests for confirmation at press time.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 25, 2010, 05:02:55 PM

Scientology third on the list of "Front groups" at Wikipedia
after Intelligence agencies and organized crime.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 12, 2010, 10:41:31 PM

Check it out.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 13, 2010, 07:20:03 PM
                Anonsparrow visits Washington ORG.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 16, 2010, 09:29:37 AM
Mike Rinder and Marty Rathbun in search of Mike's son Benjamin at the Church of Scientology's Fort Harrison Hotel in Clearwater, Florida

Youtube video.  9 minutes 37 seconds.
Scientology shows `ARC in action.`
Solving problems in a troubled world.

Here is the incident in Marty`s own words.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 17, 2010, 03:01:54 PM
                        Clearwater retrospection  16 April 2010

I just returned home after six days in Clearwater area.  The most glaring fact I observed was that DM is sparing no expense to put a lid on my best, good buddy Michael John Rinder.  I estimate, conservatively, that they are spending on the order of five thousand dollars a day solely on surveillance of Mike.  We had several cars on us at all times during daily trips throughout Pinellas county.  If it weren’t so potentially hazardous to innocent bystanders, it would be funny. They had a number of late model, tinted-window vehicles running stop signs, running red lights, crossing center islands, running the wrong way on one-way streets, and even had a guy going sixty miles an hour on top of the center island on U.S. 19 for some distance in pursuit.  They have infiltrated our cell phone carrier system to track us electronically.  We let them be in hopes of preserving some of the parishioners’  hard earned donations,  protecting the well-being of innocents, and throwing some interesting red herrings his way. Still, DM is so demanding of our every move his PI corps are putting the lives of Pinellas county citizens at risk each day.  With the amount of in-your-face tailing Mike is receiving, it is wonder to me that he remains so cool.

Read the rest here...

Post by: rockyslammer on April 18, 2010, 09:08:05 AM
Just like Rinder and Rathbun did to us when WE left in 1982 - farking hypocrites!!

just my !@#$%^&* for the day!


Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 18, 2010, 12:06:42 PM
                Apparently Gerry Armstrong agrees with you.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 22, 2010, 12:44:45 PM

A recent defector from Scientology speaks about scientology`s
strategy for dealing with anonymous.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 23, 2010, 09:12:49 AM
        From weird to strange                       

                    Scientologists fears terror attack

Psychiatric mind control can transform angry individuals into terrorists as already indicated by psychiatrist George Estabrooks, 4/21/2010 - Undisclosed location (USA) – A Scientologist for decades and the former President of the Church of Scientology Germany and one of the three former board members of international Scientology trusts (Sea Org Reserves) is concerned that the brand new image of so-called "violent Scientologists" as recently portrayed in the media could result in psychiatric organized terror acts within a Scientology organizations or another location. The danger would not lie within the religion, the teachings and the technology of L. Ron Hubbard or the doing of any Scientologist but rather within psychiatrists and other Scientology enemies who might organize terror acts against Scientologists or others with the sole purpose to blame them on Scientology, L. Ron Hubbard or Scientologists in order to outlaw the religion.

"Scientology organizations are infiltrated since years by an organized non-Scientologists movement that destroys the religion from the inside by acting non-religious, e.g. altering the religion or beating up on each other to cause a bad reputation for L. Ron Hubbard and Scientology", says Barbara Schwarz who left her position in Scientology years ago because infiltrators in Scientology organizations and outside attackers ganged up on her. "Serious indicators are all in place", she adds, "step one was infiltrating the Scientology organizations, step two was beating each other up or behaving otherwise not religious, step three is national and international media coverage selling the broad public the idea that Scientologists are violent (while they in fact are not violent and violence is a serious violation of L. Ron Hubbard's policies), and the next step in this line could be a terror attack. Right now, it would be all about manipulating the opinion of the broad public so that nobody would questions anybody else but Scientologists when such a terror act would take place. Once the public is convinced that Scientologists are violent, psychiatrists could go through with napping somebody who is public or staff in a Scientology organization and condition the mind of that person and turning her into a terrorist who opens fire on Scientologists or opens fire on non-Scientologists just as the world has already seen in the many with terror acts that were not related to Scientology. A terror act within a Scientology organization or another place would help the international organized anti-Scientology movement to outlaw the religion Scientology.

Barbara Schwarz is convinced that an L. Ron Hubbard was "impostored" by a doppelganger for much of his life and that it was the impostor and not the founder of Scientology who died 1986 in San Obispo County and that infiltrators within the Church of Scientology accepted also a doppelganger of Mark or Marty Rathbun into Scientology. She claims that Marty Rathbun, resident of Ingleside, Texas, is not the original Mark or Marty Rathbun of Scientology of who she suspect is somewhere innocently and wrongfully incarcerated. She said that reporters should compare videos and the many photos of these individual online and would come to the same conclusion. They would be just lookalikes with very different characters and personalities and she made reference that e.g. Saddam Hussein had a couple of doppelgangers and that doppelgangers are no science fiction.

More information:

Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 21, 2010, 04:24:15 PM
 Organized scientology’s filings with the IRS– time for a little truth
From a posting I just did on another forum:

"Warning – Wall of Text Follows:

Two things that historically motivated organized scientology to carry out new corporate reorganizations were fear of damages from civil litigation and fear of government departments (like the IRS) seizing their assets and/or charging their executives through criminal action.

Both were the major factors in the “corporate sortout”, the major corporate reorganization of the early 1980s which led to entities like CST, RTC, CSI, FSO, new trusts, etc.

I have covered much of this in an affidavit, in an ebook, in various postings and in a number of audio and video recordings.

I won’t repeat all that again but I did want to point out one thing now that some attention is being given to their filings with the IRS in the early 1990s that had to do with the flow of monies and the control of same within organized scientology. Much of what they filed with the IRS contained outright lies or otherwise distortions to cloud the whole truth.

Here is the simple bottom line of what the scene was before and after the corporate sortout with respect to the flow and control of the monies of organized scientology.

Just prior to the corporate sortout that started in late 1981 I did an evaluation of the corporate structure of organized scientology, how so much was based on lies and what could be done to correct it. That evaluation went to Miscavige and, I am told, Hubbard. I was then put on the corporate sortout mission and what I did is covered in many postings/recordings mentioned above.

One of the big potential legal liabilities confronting organized scientology was that, despite separate legal entities, it was centrally controlled and run almost as if it were one big, international unincorporated association managed from the GO and CMO, then just the CMO as of mid 1981.

Management would constantly take the vast sums of monies most orgs made each week with little to no significance put on why it was being taken. Through finance networks money could and would be taken off the top weekly and sent to management. Clearly the corporate veils were highly transparent and there was a great danger that management would be pulled into legal suits and other actions because of their obvious unbridled control of not only the lower organizations but of their money which they took weekly at will.

That this was a problem was magnified by the fact that by 1981 there were major legal damages cases trying to pierce the corporate veils which we thought might very well drag top management and the money they took from the orgs into the cases. This was considered very serious especially as much of management, including some of the biggest orgs on the planet, were part of one corporation the Church of Scientology of California (“CSC”).

So, given the fact that management was in CSC and CSC was ripping off most of the lower orgs’ monies, CSC, its executives and the money it held was exposed to significant legal liability.

All this is gone into in much more detail in other of my writings but I mention the above to try to put into a proper context the following.

If you follow declarations Miscavige and others in management have made in courts and their filings to the IRS in the early 1990s you would think there was some big change in the early 80s and there was indeed some real arms length with local corporate boards making their most major financial decisions and a central management no longer just ripping off money from the lower orgs. Furthermore you will get the idea that organized scientology is no longer centrally controlled as different “high up” bodies like RTC, CSI and CST exist each substantially independent of the other with Miscavige himself not even involved until he got into RTC in 1986.

Nothing can be further from the truth.

Recognizing the dangers posed above, what the early 1980s corporate sortout did, simply put, was millions of dollars of window dressing to ensure they could keep the same central control in but to completely mask it in legal entities and significances.

For example, as I mentioned earlier, prior to the sortout management often just took the money they wanted from the orgs by force whether it was the Assistant Guardian Finance doing it for GO purposes or the Flag Banking Officer or other treasury executive doing it for the Sea Org. All the early 1980s sortout did was implement various agreements and legal significances to try to “justify” the taking of the same monies from the lower orgs. Various corporations, trusts, contracts and forms of billings were designed to make it LOOK LIKE the transactions (IE: the taking of the lower orgs’ money) were at arms length.

Examples of this were things like:

1) a films trust created to get 5-10% of orgs’ income weekly as part of “leasing” all the dissemination/training films they used;

2) very steep, but we thought legally justifiable, fees and bills were created for all sorts of management actions including missions to the orgs, evaluations, you name it;

3) orgs would be made to pay for “joint actions” such as major dissemination campaigns that were meant to help all orgs;

4) in the case of more advanced orgs, there were licensing fees for the use of the “advanced technology”;

5) maximum prices were charged for books, emeters, course packs and other materials;

6) later one or more trusts controlled by management (for example CSRT) would hold mortgages for real properties of some of the orgs and get the money payments for same;

7) etc., etc., etc.

Central control of money by top management for the entire scientology enterprise did not change at all with the corporate reorganizations. It was just far better hidden. I know this as I was the one to present the major corporate reorg planning to Miscavige to get approval of it. I then had to go to the Int base and explain it to several top WDC members such as the then WDC Chairman and CO CMO Int Marc Yager and WDC Reserves Mark Ingber. As part of the many hours I spent with them on this I had to field easily more than 100 questions of how they could continue to control things, especially the taking and keeping of money from all of corporate scientology, just like before. This is not an opinion. It is simple fact. Policy they followed “religiously” was to take all possible money from the orgs before they could spend it.

Sadly this left no money for things like a decent wage, retirement, food, clothing, child care, medical, dental, you name it. Those were not factors at all to top management who just wanted all the money they could get.

The same sorts of controls went in throughout the entire scientology corporate empire including all kinds of fees and charges to other groups such as missions, field auditors, WISE, Narconon, the “study tech” groups, etc.

New and creative ways to get more money out of the public were also created, the best example being the IAS. I have covered this in some detail in various postings found on my blogspot.

All kinds of window dressing was put into place following the major corporate reorganization of the early 1980s such as companies to do administrative works for IAS so as not to domicile IAS anywhere for tax purposes, trusts set up to hold various orgs’ advanced payments to keep the monies away from the likes of damages claimants or tax agencies, etc.

The lies that organized scientology told the IRS about the reasons behind who controlled the money and the reasons for the various entities were epic in scale.

Even money to Hubbard as part of the sortout was dramatically increased in 1982 to some $40,000,000+ with all sorts of legal significances put on the payments, whereas in years previously a million or two were taken now and again without any legal significance at the time. Corporate integrity actually got worse after the sortout but organized scientology created many papers trails and produced much false testimony to make it look otherwise.

IMO we were very good at making it look like a major change occurred and corporate integrity was in to those who were not in the know. But the truth is there was no improvement in corporate integrity or change in control of organized scientology despite many millions of dollars in corporate reorganization beyond the fact that it got even worse under Miscavige who assumed complete dictatorial control of organized scientology and its monies.

The very fact that David Miscavige could not restrain himself from brutally taking over and abusing the senior most people in the different corporations of scientology will in my opinion be some of the best evidence for piercing corporate veils used in current and future legal actions against his lies, abuse and fraud.

The ebook I wrote covering Miscaviges perjuries in trying to cover this all up is available free of charge to anyone who wants to read it: The Collected Works of L. H. Brennan Volume 1

My affidavit covering this and more can be found at:

An old posting I did once on the real power behind organized scientology and the real secretive controls behind it can be found at: The Real Power in Scientology - DM's Lies - alt.religion.scientology | Google Groups

One of a variety of recordings of me going over many details on the above can be found at:

Nov 8, 2007 - radio interview on The Edge:
Transcripts with links to interviews:
(i) Transcript of Larry Brennan Radio Show re Scientology Corporate Fraud 8 NOv 2007
(ii) The Edge THE WOG BLOG from XENU TV

Links to this interview heard on YouTube:

part 1: YouTube - Interview with an Ex-$cientologist
part 2: YouTube - Interview with an Ex-$cientologist - Part 2
part 3: YouTube - Interview with an Ex-$cientologist - Part 3
part 4: YouTube - Interview with an Ex-$cientologist - Part 4
part 5: YouTube - Interview with an Ex-$cientologist - Part 5
part 6: YouTube - Interview with an Ex-$cientologist - Part 6

My blogspot which contains much more information on secret controls, the real reasons behind RTC, CST, CSI. Wise, IAS, ABLE, CSRT and more can be found at:

Speaking Out About Organized Scientology

Sorry again for a major wall of text. I just wanted to focus for a moment on this point due to the various postings on various forums recently about their filings with the IRS which paint a very false and misleading picture of the control of finances and the like within organized scientology.

Larry Brennan"

Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 25, 2010, 04:46:12 PM
           Reese Witherspoon May Be Joining Paul Thomas Anderson's Next Film

There's really no upcoming movie more worth your anticipation and excitement than the untitled project Paul Thomas Anderson is working on, the story widely believed to be based on Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard. Aside from simply being the next project from the always fascinating Anderson, the movie had already assembled a killer cast-- Philip Seymour Hoffman in the lead, Jeremy Renner as his sidekick, and who knows what other kind of Anderson regulars to fill in side roles.

So how would Reese Witherspoon being added to the cast change your feelings about it? The Playlist picked up a report in the print edition of Production Weekly that claims Witherspoon has been offered a role in the film, which starts production in June. It's not clear what the role might be, and given that The Playlist has read the script and wasn't able to find too many substantial female roles, it's hard for them to imagine what role Witherspoon might actually play. Then again, scripts change, and we know so little about what Anderson is up to that things could have changed drastically since the draft The Playlist saw.

Witherspoon is currently starring in the film adaptation of Water for Elephants, which just started filming and presumably wouldn't leave her free to play a major role anyway. So maybe she really is popping in for a cameo, maybe because she was such a fan of There Will Be Blood? It seems unlikely, sure, but Witherspoon has proven she has smart instincts in the past-- maybe she really is making a run toward the arthouse.

Scientology has been manipulating Hollywood for years.
I guess it`s payback time.

Maybe Reece will get to play Laureese with a scalpel.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 28, 2010, 12:44:45 AM
     A fun meeting with eight psychiatrists about scientology - 5.26.10
I just spent a very pleasant part of this afternoon with about eight psychiatrists and an ex scientologist at the Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston.

Sasha Zbitnoff was born into scientology and did auditing in organized scientology, attesting to the “state of clear”.

He had many experiences in scientology but left it.

He’s a very honest and articulate young man (I say “young” but he does have three children), is not bitter, acknowledges some “wins” he had in auditing and courses but sees no value in continuing with organized scientology. He is aware of many dangers within it and has lost most of his friends who are still connected with organized scientology who have disconnected from him for even daring to question it.

The chief psychiatrist over the residency program at the hospital asked Sasha to do a presentation on scientology and his experiences with it to a group of psychiatrists who had just completed their residency at Brigham and Woman’s Hospital in Boston.

Sasha brought me along I suppose as a form of moral support, or perhaps I was his “show and tell” dummy.

In either event he did an excellent presentation using power point and answered their many questions. He showed them what scientology was, “the bridge”, how it worked, etc. I also piped in and answered a number of questions, giving the psychiatrists an example of a dianetics session as well as auditing BTs and explaining what body thetans were supposed to be about and more.

Here are a few of the things that I found especially interesting about this meeting:

1) Miscavige’s great campaign for the “global obliteration of psychiatry” is having no measurable overall effect at all on psychiatry despite his overly dramatic briefings on same at events. These folks for example, except for 2 who knew a little, knew almost nothing of scientology. And none of them are in any way impacted by what Miscavige and CCHR are doing to “obliterate” them. Organized scientology was not even a distraction to them;

2) all had no idea why they were so hated by scientologists. Both Sasha and I explained. If anything they just could not understand where it came from as they did not do the really terrible practices that are claimed in organized scientology as being psychiatric crimes. When I told them about how Hubbard says their constant evaluation and invalidation hurts so many cases, one countered on how modern practice was so aimed at helping the patient to become self aware and actually not invalidated or evaluating for them at all.

I also piped in that if you took the whole structure of organized scientology for a public scientologist and not just the “in session” activities you actually get far more invalidation and evaluation right there within organized scientology than was ever alleged for a psychiatrist . Think of all the bullshit “R-factors” and handlings from directors of processing, ethics officers and qual staff that constantly invalidate and evaluate for you.

3) a couple thought that some of the “therapy” that we explained in dianetcs was not so bad as far as it went. But I also pointed out what else can come from it when there are problems and the staff are actually not competent to handle psychological or medical issues. I explained some of the details involving some of the suicides, other deaths and mental breakdowns of scientologists under “therapy” and how this can be so abusive when you add to it disconnection and other “ethics handlings”. They just shook their heads.

4) the meeting was very positive, no one was threatening, no one was defensive and all were genuinely interested and very friendly IMO.

Much more was covered but this posting is already getting too long. The above are a few of my notes of things I personally found interesting about this meeting.

I believe that the battle to get out the truth about organized scientology in an effort to help stop the abuses must be fought on all possible fronts. That’s why, for example, I have started to try to help educate IRS investigators about what is really going on as they just don’t know. Likewise that is why I support dealing with the psychiatric community to also help them understand.

FWIW, the above is a little debrief of a fun and interesting time in Boston today.

Larry Brennan

Post by: Ididntcomeback on June 05, 2010, 04:27:36 PM
Some say "Anonymous" is the bastard child of a thousand maniacs.
Some say it`s an internet terrorist hate group.

Find out what it really is...


Post by: Ididntcomeback on June 07, 2010, 01:33:14 AM
                        Intelligence, or lack thereof

June 3, 2010 · 263 Comments

Here is the latest intelligence from the anti-intelligence factory:

1. Jeff Webber – former Int staff member, and one time “friend” of several independents – is a covert card-carrying member of DM’s RTC intel ops corps. He is working for Herrs Sutter and Stahli.

2. Diane Wagenbrenner (used to be Bush) is a card carrying member of DM’s RTC intel ops corps as well.

3. Neel Smed is a card carrying member of DM’s RTC intel ops corps.

4. Ian Cunningham is a card carrying member of DM’s RTC intel ops corps.

5.  After spending millions upon millions to examine every second of the lives of Mike Rinder and I over the past year, and having come up empty-handed on anything to even create a hiccup, DM has ordered OSA to have Mike and I framed.  My prediction is that it will backfire more than anything has ever backfired on Miscavige.  But, in keeping with my promise to keep my peeps informed about developments that might effect their lives, there you have it.

Oh yeah, think this all sounds too juvenile and beyond the realm of possibility in a civilized society?  Consider what the RTC intel covert op corps has been up to lately.

Op I:

They put up a posting on Craigslist and EBay this past  Sunday that announced an “Estate Sale” at the home of Mike Rinder the following day, that’s right Memorial Day. It read as follows:


Address: 1316 Riverview Dr., Tarpon Springs, FL, Tarpon Springs, FL 34689 (map) 

Beat the heat and come inside. Property is under foreclosure and EVERYTHING MUST GO – ASAP. Our loss, your gain. If we don’t sell it today – we’ll give it away tomorrow

4 complete rooms of almost brand new furniture (Sofas, mattresses, complete bedroom sets, dressers, etc), kitchen full of kitchenware, 2 microwaves, 14pc Calphalon cookware, Camping supplies, never used 5 person tent & canoe. Jewlery & watches, grandfather clock.

Garage full of wood working equipment, drill press, tons & tons of Craftsman tools (some brand new ) including drills and routers, sanders etc. bolts, tools,WWP laser, Rinder probe, brackets, power tools, 4ft Craftsman tool chest with wheels and chocked full of mechanic tools and really anything any man has ever wanted. We have it. Even though my husband doesn’t want to part with his “toys” they have to go!!!
2 Dell laptops (6 months old), 1 – 5 week old Panasonic – VIERA / 50″ Class / 720p / 600Hz / Plasma HDTV I just paid $799 at Best Buy- have receipt.

6 year Playboy collection 1981-1987 all in sleeves. 13 different Pool toys (our pool closed). Collection of over 9000 anonymous bobblehead dolls. Xbox & Wii with 38 games including Marblecake: The Game. This will certainly be worth the stop… come on by take a look and make an offer on anything! (this is a pet and smoke-free house)

Monday, May 31th 6:15 am – 7pm If Garage is closed come around in backyard by the pool. Do NOT come before 6:15am

Cash preferred. We will take checks only with two forms of ID – no exceptions.

1316 Riverview Drive, Tarpon Springs,FL 34689

off of Riverside Dr and Florida Ave., near downtown Tarpon. See you there.

After having had numerous people come to the door, starting with half a dozen waiting in the front yard at 06:30, Mike put up a sign that read:





If you have come a long way and need a drink of water or to use the bathroom, please ring the doorbell.

Some of the people that showed up had driven 50 miles for the “Estate Sale”. They were the ones who were really harmed. Again, the DMbots are making friends and influencing people in their inimitable style. Their actions are a study in how to create ill-will and PR area out of control.

Unfortunately for DM, Mike turns these pranks back on him with an insouciant flair.

Op II:

Finally, here is an “anonymous” email Mosey received today. One of many she has received from different handles using every angle conceivable to attempt to drive a wedge between us:


I have spoken to you in the past. I really like you and find you a
gentle soul. At first I thought Mark was right but the more I
listen and hear what he says the more I have come to understand
that he has some ill will about him that scares me. I have given it
much thought and contemplation and see that he is not of good
intent. I watched how he treats others with a false affection and
sometimes he is holding back from getting furious with some of us
when we don’t follow his guidance.

I watch how he uses you. He condenses to you in a very covert way.
He has done it with me but I have noticed it with others. He and
Mike have some agenda that nobody else has been let in on. Everyone
else, you and I included, seen to be somebodies that can be used or
assist in their game.

I am scared of Mark. I feel there is something evil about him.

I write you because I am concerned for you. I will not change my
ways with either you or him. I will keep an eye on you and help you
as best I can. Mark will hate me if I make myself known but there
are others who are also of the same frame of mind to one degree or

Please keep your eyes open regarding Mark. Don’t blindly fall for
all he says. Something is not right with him.

Someone you have expressed your friendship for—me.

I end this piece with some advice for DM, from the Holy Bible:

Psalms 15

Lord, who may abide in Your tabernacle? Who may dwell in Your holy hill?

2. He who walks uprightly, and works righteousness, and speaks the truth in his heart;

3. He who does not backbite with his tongue, nor does evil to his neighbor, nor does he take up a reproach against his friend;

4. In whose eyes a vile person is despised, but he honors those who fear the LORD; he who swears to his own hurt and does not change;

5. He who does not put out his money at usury, nor does he take a bribe against the innocent, he who does these things shall never be moved.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on June 15, 2010, 12:11:16 AM
                  Well researched report on the actual number of Scio orgs, missions and groups.

83% of them are nowhere to be found.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on June 24, 2010, 09:59:30 AM
                               Radio Paul

This is what one guy came up with when he investigated Scientology
in his home town

Post by: Ididntcomeback on June 24, 2010, 03:43:52 PM
   Just to remind everyone what bullies scientology has been.
This from 2002...

Post by: Ididntcomeback on June 25, 2010, 09:22:38 AM
               Major Footbullet done LIVE on Rush Limbaugh's Radio Show!!

Just a few minutes ago, my husband is listening to Rush Limbaugh's Radio show (on our Radio 1330 am) while working.

Then this lady (calling herself Jo) calls in to the show and says:

'I am a Scientologist. Me and the members of my Church are going down
to the beach on Saturday to help clean up the oil. What are YOU doing (Rush)
to help the environment?'

So then Rush goes on a tirade about all the things he does to help
then asked her 'What do YOU do..Jo?'

Then after commercial Rush informs that: 'Jo lied to get on the show, folks.
She said she wanted to talk about one thing, then when she got on air,
she spoke about something else entirely.' Then he says something like:

'Jo you say you're a Scientologist..which I don't know what THAT has to do with anything...' then he goes on about how she was dishonest to get on air just to make that point that she was one, etc.

Apparently Rush has well over ten million listeners. So she made scn look REAL BAD to all of them!! (whether she really was one or not).
If this was a prank to smear scn, it was a GREAT PLAN!!

Post by: Ididntcomeback on June 25, 2010, 04:54:18 PM
Here is the link ...with audio

Post by: Ididntcomeback on July 02, 2010, 02:54:26 PM
Hubbard`s great grandson on youtube.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on July 13, 2010, 09:40:05 AM

     Photos of Scientologists from UK.

Scientology has posted many photos of Scientology protesters
without their permission or their masks on at their religiousfreedomwatch site.

Inspired by this a UK protester has posted photos of
scientologists on his website. These are all posed photos.
They weren`t taken without the subjects knowledge.

Of interest to Kiwis are photos of the Zimmatore family.
Mike and Peter were the big guns at Scientology Auckland through the 70`s.
Also there are photos of David Bowie`s ex drummer from "The spiders from Mars",
Woody Woodmansey.
Disbanded in July 1973 when Bowie realized they had been infiltrated by Scientology.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on July 13, 2010, 10:14:04 AM
   Excellent thread started by BLip.

 Sparrow and Radio Paul - EPIC !

Post by: rockyslammer on July 13, 2010, 05:11:25 PM

     Photos of Scientologists from UK.

Scientology has posted many photos of Scientology protesters
without their permission or their masks on at their religiousfreedomwatch site.

Inspired by this a UK protester has posted photos of
scientologists on his website. These are all posed photos.
They weren`t taken without the subjects knowledge.

Of interest to Kiwis are photos of the Zimmatore family.
Mike and Peter were the big guns at Scientology Auckland through the 70`s.
Also there are photos of David Bowie`s ex drummer from "The spiders from Mars",
Woody Woodmansey.
Disbanded in July 1973 when Bowie realized they had been infiltrated by Scientology.

I know all the Zimmatore family at St. Hill and I spent a great deal of time with "Woody".  Indeed he had sunk so low he painted my house (no not on a canvas!).

It was notable that Bowie didn't show up for Woody's wedding.  Nonetheless Woody was a terrific drummer.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on July 15, 2010, 03:46:31 PM
          OC Church of Scientology Can't Pay Water Bill?
                    Orange County Weekly.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on July 17, 2010, 08:53:50 AM
               Scientology Goons Attempt Arrest of Protesters at Kodak Theater

Links to two youtube videos. Plus commentary.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 10, 2010, 07:22:11 PM
                       Another empty Idle Morgue

  Where Scientology Makes Its Case

Posted by Lydia DePillis on Aug. 9, 2010 at 2:13 pm

You’ve done the rounds of the Smithsonians. You may even have checked off the more minor museums, like the Textile Museum, the Postal Museum, and the Navy Museum.

But have you been to the Scientology museum?

Last October—the day the St. Petersburg Times published a long expose of the Church’s pursuit of defectors—the new Founding Church of Scientology at 16th and P Street NW opened to a welcome of some 3,000 devotees and a speech by Church leader David Miscavige (a.k.a. Tom Cruise’s best man and secret videotaper). The Church had bought the edifice for $17.35 million in 2005, and after extensive renovations, all 49,000 square feet and seven floors were put to use for a chapel, classrooms, bookstore, offices, and a “purification center.”

To access the top floors, you might have to advance further in the actual pursuit of Dianetics than Housing Complex was willing to go. But the first floor, open seven days a week, is enough of a spectacle.

After entering through the front doors, you’ll notice the “Office of L. Ron Hubbard,” which has never actually been occupied by the religion’s founder, who died in 1986 (to actually feel his spectral presence, you’ll need to visit the L. Ron Hubbard house, just a few blocks away at 1812 19th Street). A friendly receptionist will ask you to sign in and call another uniformed staffer to give you an orientation. The attention isn’t overwhelming; they’ve struck the right balance of warmth and distance, allowing you to explore at your own pace.

And the pace could be quite slow, if you allowed yourself to fully absorb the materials available. The relatively small visitors center floor has every kind of pamphlet and textbook the Church has produced, displayed with, um, Scientological precision. It packs in perhaps a dozen video bays with elaborate features documenting each aspect of Scientology, from the life of the founder to Scientology’s “volunteer emergency ministers” to its take on drug addiction. Look at all these Indonesian public officials and 9/11 firefighters who value Scientology! I thought. What if there actually is something to this crazy religion?
Back away slowly.

It was a fleeting moment. Upon wandering all the way through to the back of the visitors center, I came upon a video theater, an apparently unused open kitchen, and then a “testing center.” That’s when I started to back slowly away, smiling weakly as the attendant asked what exhibits I had enjoyed. I told her it was getting late, and that I might come back later. Any time, she said. They even have an outdoor barbeque on Saturdays.


Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 15, 2010, 04:33:24 PM
        Bias against Scientologists 'like apartheid'

Aug 15, 2010 12:00 AM | By KIM HAWKEY

 Scientologists face the same discrimination as victims of apartheid, a Johannesburg resident has claimed in a hate speech complaint.
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Ryan Woodley, 29, complained to the Broadcasting Complaints Commission about a show on popular radio station 5FM.

The programme, Kim's Corner, on DJ Sasha Martinengo's morning show, was about the "strange rituals of some religions".

During the show, presenter Kim Schulze referred to Scientology's E-meter, which is used to measure a person's mental state.

Woodley, who has several Scientologist friends, complained because he identified with their struggles, as he had faced discrimination growing up in the Sant Mat movement.

"Scientology has faced much discrimination in the past in South Africa ... These statements are akin to the discrimination people faced under the regime of the apartheid government," he said in his complaint.

But the SABC, which owns 5FM, called the complaint "absurd in the extreme".

The commission ruled in favour of the broadcaster, but said the show "might deem it appropriate to make an apology to its listeners for referring to some religions as weird and others as authentic".

Woodley said he was "happy" with the outcome, and wanted the station to be more mindful of its content.

I think you`ll find most free thinking societies show a bias against criminal activity.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 15, 2010, 04:37:29 PM
                    Griffin spares none, from stars to her mom


Published: August 14, 2010

Updated: 05:18 pm

CLEARWATER - "This is a good time to be in the comedy business," Kathy Griffin told the crowd at Ruth Eckerd Hall on Friday. "Everyone's goin' down, tonight!"

A jovial mood permeated the theater even before Griffin bounded on stage. Women — and some men — milled about, eyeing "Team Griffin" merchandise and congregating like a giant fan club.

"Everybody says she puts on a good show," said Fritz Kocka, an usher for 20 years. "Kinda risqué, but a good show."

The feisty comedian delivered two hours of her signature expletive-laced, irreverent wit at the sold-out performance. Within minutes of taking the stage, Griffin teased a sign-language interpreter with a torrent of profanities. Grinning, the interpreter dutifully translated the stream of swear words.

Griffin gleefully ridiculed celebrities, her favorite targets, and Scientology, given its famous adherents and Clearwater connections. Always content to ruffle feathers, she called the church "a little more culty than others."

"If I get a laugh, I'm not sorry," Griffin quipped between railing on Mel Gibson's recent rants and dishing on "The View," the Barbara Walters-helmed morning talk show.

The "My Life on the D-List" star shamelessly tooted her own horn, mentioning her latest Emmy nomination and her bestseller, "Official Book Club Selection: A Memoir According to Kathy Griffin." Griffin's blatant self-promotion and tenacity have become her trademark and a part of her charm. Her brutal honesty — acknowledging her plastic surgery, for example — lends authority to her snarky critiques.

"You know me. I'm very open about my — dental work," she said. "That's what we call it in Hollywood."

Griffin devoted a sizeable chunk of her set to her 90-year-old mother, lovingly ribbing her affinity for boxed wine and her ability to forget her teeth en route to appear on "Larry King Live." Maggie Griffin is a regular on her daughter's reality show and a favorite among her fans.

"I'm basically the wise-cracking secretary on my own show," Kathy Griffin said.

Reporter Mackenzie Mount can be reached at (813) 259-7606.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 18, 2010, 01:21:14 PM
  Has having scrupples held back your career ?

                                   Investigative Journalist

 INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST: Freedom Magazine is looking for experienced investigative reporters for short and long-range assignments. Freedom, published by the Church of Scientology since 1968, covers human rights and social betterment issues and does investigative reporting in the public interest. Projects for this particular assignment are likely to concentrate on the East Coast and South Australia, but investigation can be conducted by phone and through Internet research. Contact Nicholas Costello on 0458 599 651 or

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 18, 2010, 01:23:04 PM
  TV show mocks Scientology

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 24, 2010, 01:12:02 AM
All covens must die.

That is the rule of Black Magick.

Covens die by falling apart, by running down the dwindling spiral like radioactive watercolors dissociating in a thunderstorm.

L. Ron Hubbard's genius was to reformulate the Black Magick system of Aliester Crowley. LRH abandoned all of the outward symbols of Magick such as daggers, robes, and pentagrams. He kept the central elements that focus on mastering one's will by the the focus of attention. Once one's will is mastered, the Magickal Adept, or OT, invokes Crowley's dictum: Do as thou will shall be the whole of the law. After he established his new school of Techno-Magick, LRH installed a monastic-military order to police his ranks and fend off outside threats. The Coven Hubbard was to be the basis of a New Civilization. As events have proven, Hubbard's Coven was just another lousy, failed System of Brutality.

Although LRH never declared it as such, Scientologists practice a form of Magick, the pinnacle of which is to ritually banish all entities in solo auditing. The "thetan hand" replaces the magickal dagger in solo auditing. The meter replaces the spells, swords, and other magickal tools. Despite these substitutions, OT nevertheless remains a Magickal level that is supposed to summate in the opening of the power centers in the body. Once opened, these power centers grant a thetan tremendous powers such as living exterior to the body with full perceptics as well as healing and regenerating the body.

"Applied religious technology" is just another term for, "Practicing Black Magick." No one is fooled except those who hold the cans and expect a needle to lead them to Nirvana. An e-meter needle is not a compass. If it really worked as an inerrant spiritual compass, the e-meter needle would point Scientologists to the nearest door that led out of CoS. Instead, e-meter needles always point to the Registrar; more money being magnetic north in CoS.

J Swift

lifted from OCMB

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 24, 2010, 11:20:08 AM
                          Boom lift accident at Flag.

This is outside the Super Power building.

Who are these workmen PTS to ?

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 28, 2010, 07:59:01 PM
                       SHOCKING find in Dianetics

Just when I thought I had seen everything possible with Scientology, I notice a GIANT fucking flaw in my copies of Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on September 24, 2010, 01:28:09 PM
Screen shot of Ex FSO Captain Debbie Cook`s website.

Debbie is married to Kiwi Wayne Baumgarten and once slapped Maria Gardini, who had given the FSO over one million dollars, in the face.

IS she still in ?
Is she a bitch ?  You decide.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 02, 2010, 01:25:30 PM
    A new scio front group

Just what the world needed.

Fri, Oct 1st, 2010 5:22 pm BdST
Dial 2000 from your GP mobile for latest news 
Dhaka, Oct 1 ( — Global Pioneers International, a US-based education research team, has recently visited Bangladesh to promote different new techniques of studies and training programmes to adopt it.

The four-member team, led by Cary Goulfston of the GPI, visited different districts across the country and conducted seminars during their six-day visit.

The team, which arrived Bangladesh on Sep 24, arranged their first seminar at Jahangirnagar University on Sep 25. They also met with Dhaka City Corporation mayor Sadeque Hossain Khoka on the same day.

Later, seminars and student assemblies were organised in Dinajpur and Thakurgaon on ways to improve study techniques and overcoming various obstacles towards achieving the goals.

The team, aiming to spread the thoughts of notable philosopher, writer and humanist Lafayette Ronald Hubbard, also attended a grand teachers' rally in Thakurgaon, where more than 500 teachers from different levels of educational institutions were present.
Goulfston, the team leader, told "Bangladesh is a country of great possibilities and that his organisation wants soon to set up a training institution in Bangladesh.

The team left Bangladesh on Thursday.

Biswanath Roy, country coordinator of the international organisation, also a senior assistant teacher of Setabganj Pilot High School in Dinajpur, organised the programmes during their visit.

Hubbard was an American science fiction author who developed a self-help system called Dianetics, first published in 1950.

Over the following three decades, Hubbard developed his ideas into a wide-ranging set of doctrines and rituals, as part of a new religion, what he called, Scientology.

Hubbard's writings became the guiding texts for the Church of Scientology and a number of affiliated organisations that address such diverse topics as business administration, literacy and drug rehabilitation.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 05, 2010, 01:12:25 PM
              My experience in the Church of Scientology

                 Science 2.0

I saw a cool program on the Church of Scientology a few days ago, and I meant to post this review here but forgot until just now when a Google Ad unit linking to their site appeared on the sidebar.
This isn't a review of the show, it's a review of the Church and a little experience I had with it around three years ago.  The next words you read will be mine, written...holy crap, three years ago to the day, how about that!

My review of the Church of Scientology

I was walking down Tottenham Court Road today, unsuccessfully attempting to get a job, when I walked past none other than the Church of Scientology. A sign outside said "Free Stress Test". Out of curiosity, and for shits and giggles, I decide to take the test.

I'd heard a little about Scientology, though not much, and most of it referring to aliens, souls and Tom Cruise. I am aware that Scientologists are pissed at how they are portrayed in the media. I have heard some bad things, but I am genuinely curious as to what this is all about, so I decide to be objective. I also feign complete ignorance of Scientology, in order that I do not receive prejudice from the staff who might label me heretic and throw me into a pit of fire or something. Well not really, but they might treat me differently if they thought I was a disbeliever, and this way we are all on even terms.

I go in and ask for the stress test. Everyone is polite and about as uncultish as possible. I am lead to some seats. The stress test is a bio-feedback device of some kind, I am instructed to hold a metal cylinder in each hand. Both are connected to a machine which gives a reading on a dial. I am asked to think of various things in my life, to see which of them elicit a stress response. I cycle through various things in my life, and it takes a while before I get a stress reading. I guess I'm pretty stress free.

Eventually the dial flies up when I think of a pub I occasionally visit. I am told that this is because I consume alcohol there. I am then asked to think of some stressful experiences. I do so, and sure enough the dial flies up when I think of them. So the stress machine seems to work as intended.

I am then taken to discuss Dianetics a little. Dianetics is the "science" behind the philosophy of scientology. I am told that it explains the mind completely, and makes psychiatry and psychology obsolete. I'm a psychology student, so I might have a few things to say about that.

I then enjoyed a 10 minute or so debate on the tenets of Dianetics. I was surprised how open the advisor was to discussing the ideas. Perhaps predictably, I had major problems with the premises behind it. Some of the claims made betrayed a lack of research, such as claiming there is no scientific basis that the mind is a physical organ (there is loads, I had an exam on exactly that last year).

Most of my major queries went unanswered, or I was told to read the book and I would understand. At £18 I cannot afford the book, though I sort of want to read it just so I can argue against it. At the end of the talk, I was told to read the book if I want and just to make up my own mind. I was quite impressed by the way nothing was pushed upon me.

Based on this experience, my opinion is that Scientology is repackaged and remarketed self-help, but on a bigger and more dangerous scale, considering that it protests for an end to treatments that currently help people. Even though the staff were as friendly and open to discussion as could be, and the stress test appeared to work, I can only give Scientology one circle. I don't agree with what they said at all.

The above was my scientific, objective review of the Church of Scientology. The below is my personal opinion:

It's bollocks.

********Back to the present me.  I did notice one thing about the stress test when I watched the program...the auditor's hand is always on the machine, holding it from the side so the fingers are round the back.  Could be nothing, but just sayin'...

article and comments here...

Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 12, 2010, 04:17:42 PM



Dianetics and Scientology are the only hope for mankind. No other spiritual technology is capable of freeing man and creating a sane society here on Earth -- for you and for everyone else.

Your membership dues literally save people's lives -- whether it is the life of a former drug addict now on his way to a new and productive life, or the person who does not become the target of a criminal -- because the criminal is now rehabilitated and no longer living a life of crime.

   Oh. Give me a break !!

Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 14, 2010, 07:48:34 AM
                 Scientology Adverts have disappeared from the net.

Obviously I don`t go everywhere on the net. But I do get around.
So many  sites on line were polluted by Scientology advertising.

But I haven`t seen any for over a week now.

Has this campaign been relegated to the massive heap
that Scientology has of "Things that didn`t work."?

It will keep "the tech" company.


Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 17, 2010, 08:09:37 PM
                In thrall to a cult: how the unwary fall victim to mind control
Michael Bachelard
October 17, 2010

                               Sydney Morning Herald.

Not about the Scientology Cult. But Scio gets a mention.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 27, 2010, 07:39:29 PM
    Church of Scientology Congratulates Troop 313’s Newest Eagle Scout Jean-Marc Nasr

Boy Scout Jean-Marc Nasr now has something in common with director Steven Spielberg and adventurer/author Clive Cussler - the honor of being an Eagle Scout

(I-Newswire) Clearwater, FL, October 26, 2010 - Boy Scout Troop 313, of SBA’s West Central Florida Council and chartered by the Church of Scientology, is proud to announce that 16 year-old Jean-Marc Nasr has reached the rank of Eagle Scout.

Jean-Marc’s journey to Eagle Scout began ten years ago, when one of his friends invited him to join the Cub Scouts.

After five years as a Cub Scout, he graduated to the Boy Scouts.

“I wanted to become an Eagle Scout because I looked up to all the Scouts who were getting to the rank of Eagle,” said Jean-Marc, “and I what I thought they were doing was really cool.”

In his path to Eagle, Jean-Marc earned 39 merit badges – more than the required amount of 21. He served as a leader within his troop and organized the funds and the manpower to photograph, catalogue and display Native American artifacts as well as create a multi-media exhibit about them at the Safety Harbor Museum of Regional History. (

“It was fun to go through the different Native American artifacts and photographing them,” said Jean-Marc. “I had a bunch of my friends helping.” With Jean-Marc’s photographs of the artifacts available, visitors to the museum can now see these items when space gets too limited to display them.

The project took 216 man-hours to complete. Jean-marc also raised the $684 needed to fund the supplies for the project.

An avid photographer, Jean-Marc teaches 15 students photo editing every week at a local home schooling group.

Jean-Marc and his family are rightfully very proud of his accomplishment. Out of 100 boys who enter Scouting, only four will rise to the rank of Eagle – this is less than one percent of the male population.

As an Eagle Scout, Jean-Marc is joining the ranks of famous leaders in statesmanship, science, literature and exploration. These include former US President Gerald Ford, Oscar-winning Director Steven Spielberg, author and explorer Clive Cussler and humanitarian and Scientology’s founder, L. Ron Hubbard.

Said Hubbard of his own Scouting days, “Of all the various information which became important to me, such as photography, wood lore, signaling and many other subjects, the basis of it was laid in Scouting.”
If you read any of the cults official biography`s on Hubbard.
It states that Hubbard was the youngest ever eagle scout...

Was L. R. Hubbard really the youngest Eagle Scout?


All members of the Scout Movement are required to adhere to a Scout Promise and a Law reflecting, in language appropriate to the culture and civilization of each National Scout Organization and approved by the World Organization, the principles of Duty to God, Duty to others and Duty to self, and inspired by the Promise and Law conceived by the Founder of the Scout Movement in the following terms:
The Scout Promise

On my honour I promise that I will do my best
To do my duty to God and the King (or to God and my Country);
To help other people at all times;
To obey the Scout Law.
The Scout Law

1. A Scout’s honour is to be trusted.
2. A Scout is loyal.
3. A Scout’s duty is to be useful and to help others.
4. A Scout is a friend to all and a brother to every other Scout.
5. A Scout is courteous.
6. A Scout is a friend to animals.
7. A Scout obeys orders of his parents, Patrol Leader or Scoutmaster without question.
8. A Scout smiles and whistles under all difficulties.
9. A Scout is thrifty.
10. A Scout is clean in thought, word and deed.

So when you take into account that Hubbard lied about his scouting achievements, it becomes apparent that rather than being an example for other Scouts, it turns out he was actually a mental case.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 27, 2010, 07:48:56 PM
             Chinese citizen arrested for tweeting intention to protest

The line between the digital world and the real world used to be pretty easily defined.  In it’s early days the internet was an untamed frontier, fertile ground for people to air their views, no matter how controversial.  Since those early days, the line between the digital and real worlds has blurred significantly, and with the advent of social networks that are intrinsically tied to your real-world identity, the line has disappeared almost entirely.

Here in the UK a town councillor was dragged to court for tweeting that he was getting away from a group of Scientologists in case “the stupid rubs off”.  He was eventually cleared, and rightly so – it’s a legitimate worry, and one we all share (take that, Hubbard!).

Now China has proven they are at least Scientology-level crazy by snatching an apparently innocent woman from her apartment for nothing more than tweeting her intention to protest at the continued imprisonment of Nobel peace prize winner Liu Xiaobo.  An anti-Japanese protest had been arranged in Mou Yanxi’s area, and she made public her plans to go along carrying a placard in support of Xiaobo (This is protesting asian-style – usually a bring-your-own-message sort of affair).

Following Xiaobo’s nomination for the peace prize several weeks ago, his wife was put under house arrest.  She subsequently released a list of around 140 people she would like to accept the prize on his behalf – all of the Chinese citizens mentioned on the list are now thought to have had words with the Chinese police, and there is heavy scepticism as to whether any of them will be willing – or indeed able – to accept the prize on his behalf in Norway.

Mou Yanxi was subsequently released, however her mobile phone and computer were confiscated.  When asked about the incident, local police denied any knowledge of the arrest having taken place.

The news was made public by blogger Zhang Shijie, who voiced his opinions that such behaviour was unacceptable – and was duly cautioned himself.

China is keen to promote the fact that it’s citizens are free to protest and use the internet, all the while failing to mention the heavy censorship present when viewing the web from within China and dealing with dissidents in a heavy-handed and totalitarian fashion.  Google has had well documented difficulty operating in China – the government insisted Google censor search results, Google eventually refused, and was forced to forward to their Hong Kong portal (although technically Chinese territory, Hong Kong is run as a special administrative region and sees less restrictive governance than mainland China – you can thank us Brits for that).

Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 08, 2010, 07:00:27 AM
                    AGP Arrested Protesting at Delphi Academy..

Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 25, 2010, 08:32:02 AM
               Letters from Ron ?

On the Apollo in the early to mid ‘70’s the SO # 1 Unit was under the direction of LRH Pers Sec, Alethia Taylor. If I recall correctly, the I/C of the Unit was Joyce Popham.

Letters to El Ron were read, answers dictated by Joyce and other personnel in th Unit and typed by typists using steno equipment. The signatures were stamped or “forged” depending on the circumstance.

A very, very small amount of the letters were actually brought to El Ron’s attention. There was internal Unit policy that determined when and why a letter to El Ron would be brought to his attention and when this was done it was with an accompanying draft of a proposed response.

The SO # 1 personnel were very careful to ensure that all answers were researched if necessary to show that whatever the Org or Area or Subject that pertaining to a letter and/or the writer could be properly referenced in context if it needed to so as to show El Ron was “on top of things”.

The SO # 1 files had been brilliantly indexed and cross-tabbed under Alethia and Joyce’s direction and were a source of data re: all manner of information as regards Scn, Org’s and individuals…not just the letter’s originator but anyone mentioned in the letter.

El Ron maintained a steady flow of correspondence related to his various hobbies and interests and “personal business”. This correspondence was handled by Pers Sec personally and not handled in the SO # 1 Unit—Alethia could type over 100 words a minute and was a really, really sharp, well educated and polished professional executive secretary pre Scn. Alethia “managed” all the non-Scn comm similar to SO # 1 and would, in essence, give El Ron a CSW style presentation of the letter received, relevant information and proposed answer. Letters of this type were much more likely to actually be personally signed by El Ron.

The El Ron autographed books and leather bound “collectors” edition books were signed with a stamp or machine.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 28, 2010, 11:38:10 AM

Wikileaks to release thousands of secret documents; 'international embarrassment' likely

Saturday, November 27, 2010

Breaking news    This article is breaking news, and may change rapidly as new information becomes available. You may want to periodically refresh this page for updates.;_%27international_embarrassment%27_likely?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+WikinewsLatestNews+%28Wikinews+Latest+News%29

Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 29, 2010, 07:11:35 PM

           U.S. documents obtained by WikiLeaks posted despite site problem

By the CNN Wire Staff
November 28, 2010 10:37 p.m. EST

WikiLeaks: Julian Assange could face 'grave consequences'
Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks, has been rebuffed by the US government after he sought information "regarding individuals who may be 'at significant risk of harm'" because of" his release of classified documents.......

Post by: Ididntcomeback on December 01, 2010, 06:09:25 AM
                                Look What We Did !!!!!
                                 Look what we did!!

Last month KissMyStats and I accomplished a purpose we’ve had for the last year.

We donated ALL our remaining Scientology materials to a MAJOR University in the United States for their growing library at their Institute for the Study of American Religion.

What will happen with the materials? Graduate level researchers will study Blubbard’s insane self/group/mass hypnosis techniques and gain greater understanding of “successful” cult techniques and hopefully produce new papers and essays in scholastic journals and thereby further expose the con.

We packed up everything into boxes, stacked the boxes on a pallet, shrink-wrapped the whole thing and had a shipping company come to our house, pick the pallet up and deliver it to the receiving dock of this University’s library. We paid the considerable, but less than expected freight charges.

Here is the e-mail of acknowledgment from the Director of this institute:

"The material you sent arrived last week, but due to my travels and the illness of the special collections librarian, I just got to campus to look through it this afternoon. I am, to say the least delighted. I am most happy to get a set of the Tech Bulletins, but everything is wonderful and overwhelmingly material we do not have. I have also alerted the librarian to the valuable leather-bound copies you sent.

"I both want to apologize for the delay in getting back to you and say a hearty "thank you" for the material. I will see that it is handled properly and integrated into the collection we already have. It is a very meaningful and important addition to our collection.

"My best, "

As an additional bonus, I get the pleasure of debating at length with my accountant what dollar value we place on this charitable contribution. For frame of reference, it was $40,000.00 of stuff. I’m shooting for the entire enchilada and if I do get it as a tax deduction this year, that’ll be something on the order of a $13,333.33 tax savings to us. 33 cents on the dollar is a great return on Scio materials when you consider what the going rate for this crap is on E-Bay.

P.S. Don’t rain on my parade and reply with tax code mumbo-jumbo about “current values”, etc. Allow me to have my fantasy for another year or so (I always get tax filing extensions).

P.P.S. Chuck Beatty who posts on this board turned me on to this major university. He has other universities in multiple countries who are interested in filling out their collections too, so if you what to get up to 33 cents on the dollar as a tax deduction for this tax year, you have a month left to "get ‘er done".

P.P.P.S. The P.P.S. above reminds me of quite a few (now) embarrassing New Year’s Eve Reg cycles I participated in and pulled out my big “closing line” of “It’s the last chance to get a great tax deduction!!”, complete with big smile, enthusiasm, “we’re conquering the world” attitude, etc. This is my apology (albeit anonymously).

Merry Christmas to you all.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on December 01, 2010, 08:46:00 PM
Just in time for the Christmas season


Google Translate from Portugese

THE OFFICIAL BLOG Brazilian Union of Evangelical Pastors

Thursday, November 25, 2010

THE LIES OF Scientology

Dear increasingly man tries to have dominion over himself, trying so failed to
take the place of God, often trying to have dominion over the mind and body,
thinking that if we visualize with your mind positive things will result in your
body may well find a cure for ailments of the body.

Many who follow this line of reasoning, totally devoid of spirit and heart, trying
to influence others forming followers.

Examples are adherents of Scientology, the sect known for having fans like
Hollywood actors. The basic foundation of this sect is the domain of the mind
and body, a spiritual purification of the mind so as to find the cures in the body,
without the aid of drugs, other discursão fact that when women are pregnant
can not scream, or taking painkillers for the contractions, Scientology says that
the cries of the mother at the time your child is born can result in eternal trauma
in children. It's amazing how the man who purports to be "rational," smart "can
create something so fantastic.

Below is a brief tutorial on what is Scientology.

Scientology is a pseudo-science by means of psychotherapeutic techniques that
try to awaken in his followers the awareness of being immortal beings.

Scientology is a cult not to pay taxes that presents itself as a religion,
followers are led to attend courses and receive psychotherapy sessions.
To pay for these sessions members are serious financial problems.

The philosophy of Scientology is based on three parts:
The Thetan: pure spirit that exists "from the beginning", is omniscient and immortal
The body: an undesirable component of human beings.
The mind: communication system between the Thetan and the environment.

The American founder LR Hubbard (1911-1986), is revered as a God, before
reversing LR Hubbard Scientology, he was a writer of science fiction, although
with the passing of years and with new discoveries of science, which
demonstrate that the fundamentals of Scientology doctrine does not go beyond
pure fantasy, but still remains the sect with enough supporters including
several Hollywood celebrities.

The scheme within the "church" is totalitarian and its members are bound to
despise those who do not belong to the sect, which the "holy scriptures" call,
so despicable, "humanoid."

A major element of social danger of the sect is the infamous "Fair Game." This
consists of a series of founder Hubbard's directives which state that if a person
dares to criticize Scientology, will be declared a "Suppressive Person." This
declaration authorizes the members to commit any crime or abuse against
the "suppressive".


Post by: Ididntcomeback on December 02, 2010, 07:58:57 PM
                              Minneapolis org sold

Target snaps up Nicollet Mall Scientology site

Big names come bidding on Nicollet Mall

Post by: Ididntcomeback on December 02, 2010, 08:03:30 PM
                    L. Ron Hubbard's House on 44th Street

Perhaps one of the wisest things L. Ron Hubbard ever said was, "If you want to make a little money, write a book. If you want to make a lot of money, create a religion."

Hubbard, the founder of  Scientology, was definitely onto something there (although we can't vouch for the quality of his science fiction novels). We'd be interested to hear the late Hubbard's take on how to make a residence into a religious mecca, especially considering all the hubbub surrounding Hubbard's old house near Camelback Mountain in Phoenix.

Hubbard moved into the house, located on 44th Street just north of Stanford Drive, in March of 1952. While there, he founded Scientology (the first organization was the Hubbard Association of Scientologists) and authored his first five books on the then-new religion.

The Church of Scientology purchased the house in 2000 and began converting it into a museum. The interior of the house was restored to appear as it did when Hubbard lived there, and displays were set up, including the recording equipment Hubbard used to record lectures from 1952 to 1955 (some 600 lectures total), his design of the original scientology cross and collar pins, his motorcycle helmet and gloves, his camera, and a bust of Hubbard done by one of his students.

All that said, visitors cannot tour the L. Ron Hubbard House. This is because, as our colleague Robrt Pela explained in this feature on the Hubbard house last February, neighbors in the area were less than thrilled with the idea of a scientology "recruitment center" and tour buses on their street....

More plus photos here...

Post by: Ididntcomeback on December 06, 2010, 05:02:20 PM
Scientology: Circus of the Stars

"Writing for a penny a word is ridiculous. If a man really wanted to make a million dollars, the best way to do it would be start his own religion." ~ L Ron Hubbard.

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                          Scientology: Circus of the Stars

This amusing video about scientology would be funny if there weren't so many people who have been sucked into this dangerous cult. In short, scientology is based on selling a fantasy world to gullible people. (Hence, this cult is often referred to as "scientLOLogy" on the internet.) That fantasy world was created by L Ron Hubbard, a con artist, thief and talentless science fiction writer who created this religion as his "get rich quick" scheme. In fact, several years before going public with scientology, Hubbard publicly joked that creating a religion was the fastest way to accumulate wealth.!

Post by: Ididntcomeback on December 06, 2010, 05:06:48 PM
                      Things to do in Tampa Bay for the week of Dec. 6

By Kelly Smith, Times Staff Writer
In Print: Monday, December 6, 2010

Scientology play: St. Petersburg's American Stage does the irreverent A Very Merry Unauthorized Children's Scientology Pageant, in which six children tell the story of L. Ron Hubbard for their holiday pageant. It starts at 7 p.m. Thursday and runs in repertory with SantaLand Diaries. $25 for each show, $40 for both. (727) 823-7529.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on December 08, 2010, 07:38:01 AM

(Reuters) - WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, who has angered U.S. authorities by publishing secret diplomatic cables, was remanded in custody by a British court on Tuesday over allegations of sex crimes in Sweden.

Post by: NED on December 08, 2010, 10:35:55 PM
Ooooooo...were they "Blood sex crimes"?
What are "Blood sex crimes" btw?

Post by: Ididntcomeback on December 09, 2010, 10:21:23 AM

Watch: Glenn Beck Provides The Clearest Explanation Of Julian Assange’s Sex Charges We’ve Seen Yet

Post by: Ididntcomeback on December 09, 2010, 04:06:35 PM
                          Scientology Needs An Actor for Its Pitch Film

You know, most religions make industrial films to get new members. Doesn’t yours? The Jewish one was “Portnoy’s Complaint.” The Catholic one was “The Godfather.” The Protestant film was “Ordinary People.”

Now Scientology, which can call itself a religion based on its tax status, is shooting its own new pitch film. I’m told they do it all the time. They recently placed a casting call in the trades for an actor to star in such a film. Why they don’t call Tom Cruise or John Travolta is a mystery.

Anyway, the part is for a “Scientology Practitioner.” The description:  “Lead Male / 30 to 40 / Caucasian, Ethnically Ambiguous, Mixed, Multi-Ethnic     Looking for a handsome, athletic gentleman that has a military/rugged look with great stage presence and commanding voice. This is a very intense role so preferably with Theatre background.”

No mention of meeting Xenu, or even Travolta.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on December 26, 2010, 06:16:18 PM
                 Rare photo of Tubby Hubbard

L. Ron Hubbard, left, and John W. Campbell

Post by: Ididntcomeback on December 31, 2010, 11:41:48 AM
                       Scientology Fleecing Foiled in 2010

Tory Magoo to the rescue.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on January 29, 2011, 04:52:01 PM
                                Dead Space 2

                                 Video game review

Release Date: January 25th, 2011
Platform: Xbox 360 (Version Reviewed), Playstation 3, Windows PC
Developer: Visceral Games
Publisher: Electronic Arts
Genre: Sci-fi Action Horror
ESRB: M for Mature

........On top of everything else, the game continues its one undercurrent of social relevance by again bringing in the Church of Unitology. An obvious allusion to Scientology, the Unitologists are played a little more fairly this go around though they’re still creepy zealots. However, portions of the game, especially the opening where you break out of the mental hospital seem almost to fit in with Scientology’s anti-psychology dogma. It’s difficult to tell if this was a conscious mollifying choice, or if it’s simple happenstance. It’s definitely better from a narrative perspective since new bogeymen show up in the form of the government (which appears to use Newspeak since it’s called “EarthGov”) and this ends up adding just a bit more verisimilitude to the universe........

Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 02, 2011, 11:19:07 PM
                          The Sea Org in Sydney

I thought I would start a new thread to link up ex-SeaOrg members in Sydney. The former Sea Org members have tended to drift away, and this thread is an attempt to bring them together, to help each other and to help those who have yet to leave. And of course, to keep them up to date.

While I was in the SO from 1983 to 1989, I was attached to the FSO, EUS, Int and then the Universe Corps in LA. However, I knew quite a number of the CLO staff when I was auditing and C/Sing in Sydney Day as well as those who were to become SO with the opening of AOSH ANZO.

Some have passed on since my time there, and I thought I might mention them. The first who comes to mind is Cmder Phyll Stevens, she was on the original Class8 program on the Apollo, became the Commanding Officer of Sydney Day Org and made it one of the top orgs, she went on to become CO of CLO ANZO. In the early ‘80s I saw her in the Flag RPF. Recently I heard she was suffering from dementia and was placed in the Magnolia Manor in Clearwater and passed away.

Phyll was replaced by Pat Bloomberg as CO of Sydney Day, Pat was part of the executive team of the successful old Saint Hill, which became the yardstick for the birthday game. Greg Willhere was pulled off his ClassXII internship and became the initial CO of AOSH ANZO and passed the AO over to Pat Bloomberg. Pat passed away in the late ‘80s.


Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 02, 2011, 11:30:55 PM
                          Operating Thetan Level ONE.

                                 OT 1

ABILITY GAINED....  Be able to say I`m OT 1 and be eligible to waste money on OT 2. 

On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 16:59:20 -0000, XXXX wrote:
> I would hope that OT1 is still delivered the way LRH wrote it in his own
> handwriting, but nevertheless there is a "New OT1" that is typed but not
> formatted as one would expect an official HCOB to be. Not even with the name
> of L Ron Hubbard on it. It is as follows:
> 0. Make a list of terminals who have had ARC Breaks, PTPs or have committed
> overts against you to Fly Ruds on them.
> 1. Assess the first terminal and if reading on ARCX then fly Rud to F/N.
> eg: Mother
> "Does ( Mother ) have an ARC Break with me?"
> If reading, then ARCU, CDEINR E/S to F/N, VGIs and no more reads.
> 2. Assess SAME terminal for PTP and if reading fly Rud to F/N.
> eg: Mother
> "Does ( Mother ) have a Present Time Problem with me?"
> If reading, then Itsa E/S Itsa to F/N VGIs and no more reads.
> 3. Assess SAME terminal for W/Hs and if reading fly Rud to F/N.
> eg: Mother
> "Does ( Mother ) have a Withhold from me?"
> If reading, then get What, When, All, Who to F/N, VGIs and no more reads.
> Then take the NEXT terminal from your list and do 1 to 4 on IT.
> Do this action until you have a big win, persistent F/N and cognition on
> doing the action.
> Good Luck!

It is a degrade of "OT Levels" to call that "OT1".

It is not from any HCOB I've seen or heard of. It certainly isn't the
OT1 that replaced the 13-step objective one. I assume it's something
some FZer invented. It might be useful in its own way, but if it is
being labeled "OT1" because of some assumed equivalence to the current
version, it is a misnomer.

The current CofS "New OT1", introduced around 1982, after flying Quad
Ruds starts similarly. The pre-OT, on the meter, lists out terminals
who are or have been antagonistic to him, noting the reads as he lists
(not an L&N list). This list goes to the C/S.

Note that if anyone is going to have some pre-OT do this, unless the
pre-OT has been well-drilled and well-coached in this action of
listing (not L&N) items solo and noting all reads, it will get screwed
up. I say this as a very experienced solo supervisor.

Without getting into the exact mechanics, each reading terminal is run
in a series of problems processes, just regular, ordinary Grade 1-type
problems processes, the best-reading terminal first. There are ten or
twenty processes detailed on the level. Each process is taken to a
normal EP. The charged terminal is taken to an EP. It might take ten
processes and five or ten hours to EP a terminal, although it might be

Then the next terminal is run on the first problems process. Then on
the second process. Then on the third process. And so on until that
terminal is EP'd.

Then the next terminal similarly. And so on.

The flying ruds-type action on antagonistic terminals is a whisk-broom
key-out type of approach, not the heavy TA-draining action of the full
problems processes.

Whether or not this series of actions should be called an "OT Level"
is debatable. If one was trying to justify the label, it does deal
with the thing/counter-thing of GPMs. However, I think it belongs in
the OT Preps area, as it has more the character of Grade 1 or a PTS
RD/Suppressed Person RD than the R6-dramo-handling or entity-handling
or thetan-drilling of the other published solo Levels (OT8 excepted).

It was put into the line-up at a time when many Dn Clears were getting
onto the OT Levels with incomplete set-ups and not doing very well,
and at a time after the Sunshine RD had been introduced. The OT1 it
replaced was a relatively lightweight level, and it was a way of
getting this de-PTSing done without "invalidating the Dn Clear" and
making it look like he was going back down the Grace Chart instead of

That's my take on it all.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 05, 2011, 10:38:37 AM

            L. Ron Altman: Why Dead Space 2 is a direct attack on Scientology

Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 06, 2011, 09:54:53 AM
                 Child Drugging Is A $4.8 Billion-A-Year Industry

Vancouver, Feb. 5, 2011 /NewsRelease/ – Child drugging is a $4.8 billion-a-year industry.  A new must-see video made by the Citizens Commission on Human Rights International graphically demonstrates the fraudulent nature of all psychiatry’s labels.

Youngsters are prescribed hazardous psychiatric drugs

The children within the video rip off their bogus psychiatric label and show a genuine label of their true nature. The name underneath the label of one child labeled with Adhd (ADHD) is merely “Kid”.

In the real world, 20 million youngsters are now wearing these labels which are based solely on the checklist of behaviors. There aren’t any brain scans, x-rays, genetic or blood tests that may prove the scientific validity of any of the psychiatric labels, yet these youngsters are prescribed hazardous and life-threatening psychiatric drugs based on nothing extra than the invented label.

The psychiatric/pharmaceutical industry spends billions of dollars a year to be able to convince the public, legislators and the press that these labels for example Bi-Polar Disorder, Depression, (ADD/ADHD), Ptsd, etc., are medical diseases comparable to verifiable medical conditions such as cancer, diabetes and heart disease. This is simply a way to maintain their hold on a $84 billion dollar-a-year psychiatric drug industry that’s based on marketing and never science.

Brian Beaumont, president from the Vancouver chapter of the Citizens Commission on Human Rights, “Despite decades of trying to prove mental disorders are biological brain conditions, because of chemical imbalances or genetics, psychiatry has failed to prove even one of their hundreds of so-called mental disorders is a result of a faulty or “chemically imbalanced” brain”.

The Citizens Commission on Human Rights was established by the Church of Scientology to research and expose psychiatric violations of human rights. To see the video and/or to benefit by an abuse case go to

This PR piece by the cult says a lot more than one would immediately see.

It for one demonstrates Scientology`s losing battle against the drug industry.
After all these years the cult has done zero about this travesty.
Secondly an industry as evil and rich as the drug industry would have no problem taking them out if they posed a threat to their profit margin.

The fact that they have taken no steps in this direction confirms that they do not see Scientology as a threat.

And thirdly.... How a group can point out that a business is doing terrible things to children while turning a blind eye to the abuse of children within their own organization, clearly shows that the welfare of children is not the motivation for their,ineffective, attacks on the drug industry.

It`s as clear as day.


Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 13, 2011, 09:26:05 AM
   Not Scientology related.  And yet Scientology still gets it`s picture
taken in a bad way.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 17, 2011, 09:37:15 AM
         Meet the Heroes of Early Scientology Reporting—Plus, a Visit to the Celebrity

Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 18, 2011, 08:12:20 AM

 'New Chinese law aimed at wiping out Tibetan identity'

 DHARAMSALA: The new Chinese law which would come into effect next month banning reincarnation of the Dalai Lama and other Buddhist monks in Tibet was aimed at wiping out the Tibetan identity and its rich culture, said exiled Tibetan government based here on Monday.

The new law which stipulates Buddhist monks in Tibet to seek permission from Chinese communist regime for reincarnation has been ironically described by Chinese state administration for religious affairs as an important move to institutionalize management of reincarnation.

However, the de facto Prime Minister of Tibet Samdhong Rinpoche, speaking to TOI said that the new Chinese law coming into effect next month framed to ban reincarnation of Dalai Lama and other Tibetan Lamas was not surprising and unexpected at all. He said that China had been for a long time engaged in working out various methods and formula to finish the two major Tibetan religious institutions-Dalai Lama and Panchen Lama. He said that these two institutions are very important for Tibetans.

He said that the new Chinese law was nothing but a ploy to take control of Tibetan religious institutions. He said that China was perhaps waiting for the departure of the Dalai Lama as it believed that his departure would resolve the problem of Tibet itself.

Rinpoche said that China believes that by choosing its own Dalai Lama as it did in the case of appointing its own Panchen Lama with the new law coming into force would help them to control Tibetans living in various parts of the world including here (Dharamsala) which was not the case at present.

The de facto Prime Minister of Tibet said that it was wishful thinking on the part of Beijing to believe that if the Dalai Lama leaves the scene it would make things easier for it (China) to control the Tibetan struggle and movement for its cause as per its own convenience. He said that the Tibetan issue creates lot of pressure on China at global level, a fact though not accepted by Chinese. He said that Tibetan struggle could not be stymied with one individual (Dalai Lama) not on the scene as it was struggle of a nation.

However, he said that departure of the Dalai Lama would defiantly have a significant bearing on the Tibetan struggle as it could make Tibetans especially youth agitated and could resort to violent means owing to lack of leadership.

About the Karmapa monastery issue, he said that if huge haul of foreign currency including Chinese Yuan had been accumulated illegally must be investigated thoroughly to extract t the truth about it. He said that he believes that Karmapa staff had been responsible for the money found to be kept at monastery in illegal manner. Regarding suspicions being raised about Karmapa being Chinese agent or spy, he said that he (Karmapa) was not so smart and competent to indulge in such sort of activity. When asked that how the Karmapa managed to run away from Tibet (China) in dramatic circumstances in January 2000, Rinpoche said that he (Karmapa) he took advantage of snow while escaping from there.

Source: TOI

Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 19, 2011, 07:55:27 AM
   A couple of youtube vids worth a look.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 24, 2011, 11:22:44 AM
                      Our Casting Suggestions for Scientology: The Movie

Which actors would be best suited to play Hubbard, Mary Sue, Miscavige,
Cruise, Katie Holmes,Travolta, Tommy Davis....

seven pages

Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 25, 2011, 04:14:37 PM
        Charlie Sheen Makes Anti-Semitic Attack on 'Two and a Half' Men Creator

Actor's lengthy radio rant also takes aim at Alcoholics Anonymous, Scientology and the press.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 26, 2011, 09:14:01 PM
    From Sumter County Florida government web site.

              2011 file lists out eligible and ineligible healthcare expenses.


    * Psychiatric care
    * Psychoanalysis
    * Psychological treatment


    * Church of Scientology audits


List of Eligible/Ineligible Expenses              

                    Ineligible Expenses

Alternative medicine
Babysitting/child care/day care
Breast augmentation such as implants or
Breast pump (unless to alleviate a specific
medical condition for the mother or the child)
Church of Scientology audits
Cord blood storage
Cosmetic surgery (including laser hair
Dancing lessons, swimming lessons, etc.
(even if recommended by a doctor)
Dependent care (Eligible under the Dependent
Care Account for which you must elect
Ear or body piercing
Electrolysis or hair removal


Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 02, 2011, 09:57:14 AM
             HUGE dump of CoS-material on Tipping Point.

A tremendous load of old scientology books, magazines,publications and what not can be found at the forum "Reaching for the Tipping Point" under the following URL:,301.0.html

For historians and others interested in old materials a true gold-mine. There's even a scientology crossword to solve. For those who have a lot of free time to spare, people like Lex Fowler, this link could prove to be hours of fun, the difference between sanity and boring yourself to death. :mrgreen:

For the rest of the world, at least for those who haven't seen enough of this crap to last a lifetime, it's just an interesting read.

Personally I'll give the crossword a try....

Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 09, 2011, 03:47:09 PM
Complaints filed against Scientology advertising in Dart and train stations March 6, 2011 bySean McTiernan

    Complaints have been filed with the Advertising Standards Authority for Ireland over a Church of Scientology campaign to advertise course to help with job insecurity.

    [photo of anonymous protesters with sign "Scientology Destroys Lives"]

    The print edition of The Sunday Times reports that the ASIA is investigating claims that the ads, which appear in Dublin’s train and Dart stations, are misleading.

    The advertisement says “when jobs security turns into insecurity, success beings with personal efficiency”. It then advises people to “attend a course in Scientology” to get that security back.

    Gerard Ryan, the Irish director of scientology, says this is the first time Scientology courses have been advertised this way.

    Frank Goodman, the ASAI chief executive said the agency had “a small number of complaints” and have decided the advertisement warrants further investigation.

    “We have to follow due process and we are legally required to go to the advertiser about the complaints… we’re not taking it up on religious grounds but will see if it breaches any advertising code by being misleading”

    Representatives of hacktivist group Anonymous protests outside the Dublin Scientology offices once a month. Gerard Ryan says “these protesters have no effect whatsoever…they’re just kids”

See also:
DUBLIN Scientology Poster HORROR!

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 01, 2011, 07:03:21 AM
                                Vicky Dunstan and Carol Miles

Can someone confirm the following?

This information came from a reasonably reliable source, which unfortunately I am not at liberty to disclose.

“Vicky Dunstan apparently escorted Carol Miles on a flight to LA late last year, with Vicky reporting to the PAC RPF and Carol continuing her escorted journey to Int. For Vicky it was apparently to protect her from pending criminal charges in Australia and for Carol, to thwart possible human trafficing charges.”

I would appreciate any information have have regarding this. If the information is sensitive, you may of course, PM me.

Regards, David.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 02, 2011, 11:09:28 AM
          Student Life investigates: The St. Louis Church of Scientology

 Student Life- Independent Newspaper of Washington University in St. Louis since 1878

April 1, 2011 | Davis Sargeant Senior Scene Editor

The Scientology church nearest to campus is located at 6901 Delmar Boulevard. Casual visitors can receive literature and information from church staff.enlargeJosh Goldman | Student Life

The Scientology church nearest to campus is located at 6901 Delmar Boulevard. Casual visitors can receive literature and information from church staff.
In a blocky concrete building west of the Delmar Loop, Scientologists from St. Louis work to improve their spiritual lives and promulgate their message. Student Life went inside this temple, which most have seen, but few have entered.

Scientology’s relatively young roots lie in the writings and charisma of author L. Ron Hubbard. Though he died in 1986, the religion continues to grow steadily. I visited the Church of Scientology to discover what I could about the religion. I am convinced, however, that Scientology is not the most viable of options for students at Washington University.

Scientology’s various depictions in the media overwhelm most people’s knowledge of the actual religion. Tom Cruise, possibly the organization’s most infamous member, ceaselessly promotes Scientology and its teachings, and other portrayals have been negative: An episode of “South Park” describes Scientologists as believers in an ancient alien emperor, Xenu, whose genocide of billions of aliens caused the current world’s evil.

The representatives with whom I spoke prefer to present the Church as a self-help group, whose methods rest in rigorous and revolutionary science.

As I began my tour of the church, I first noticed both a large portrait of Hubbard hanging behind the receptionist’s desk and dozens of copies of Hubbard’s “Dianetics” on display. The receptionist was intently perusing a dictionary. I asked for introductory material, and one Scientologist, Mindy, whisked me away for an introduction to the religion. In a larger room, dominated by two likenesses of Hubbard, Mindy presented me with a personality test of 200 questions. Called the Oxford Capacity Analysis (OCA), the test asked for responses of “yes,” “no” or “maybe” to questions like “Are you a slow eater?” and “Does emotional music have quite an effect on you?” While bubbling in answers, I gazed around the room and noticed that more dictionaries rested on shelves. After completing all of the questions, I doubted the test could reveal much. I watched an abbreviated biography of Hubbard’s life while Mindy scored my test.

To my surprise, the results indicated that I was “badly withdrawn,” “inhibited and submissive” and “depressed.” According to Scientology, my life is, among other things, “an environment of chaos and trouble.” The OCA measures 10 aspects of personality and assigns each a numerical value. I didn’t understand the graph of my results, mostly because there were no units on the vertical axis. To help me understand the invisible units, Mindy personally reviewed my results with me. When discussing particularly low scores, she asked what parts of my life would contribute to such results. I didn’t answer, possibly due to my “inability to communicate freely,” or perhaps because I don’t share personal matters with people I met only 20 minutes ago. Mindy advised purchasing Scientology courses as a remedy.

Scientology, in Hubbard’s own words, is “the science of knowing how to know answers.” Ideally, at least according to Mindy, the courses would improve my life as a whole and lead to greater knowledge.

My visit had raised more questions than it answered, as some contradictions arose through minimal skepticism and research. The short biography about Hubbard claims that he “embarked on another investigatory trail” thanks to his college class about nuclear physics. Yet, according to Michael Streeter’s “Behind Closed Doors,” a book about Scientology and other secret societies available through Google Books, Hubbard flunked the sole course he took in molecular and atomic physics. When I asked about this and other discrepancies between Scientology’s account and other records, Mindy shrugged. She likened the inconsistency to the controversy surrounding other historical figures, such as Jesus.

Examination of the OCA highlights other problems. I asked Tim Bono, a psychology graduate student, how psychologists evaluate personality tests. He replied that they first consider the validity and reliability of a test; a valid test has been shown to measure what it claims to measure, and a reliable test produces similar results each time. An investigation by a group of psychologists, concluded that the OCA was invalid. Most trials of a valid test, when answered randomly, should yield results close to the mean. When the Working Party answered the OCA randomly, however, their results, like mine, were far from the mean. I obtained a copy of the OCA and a scoring guide, replicated the investigation, and arrived at similar results. Even the name “Oxford Capacity Analysis” is misleading. I asked Mindy for the reason behind the name. She said that Hubbard wrote the exam in collaboration with Oxford University. I have found no source independent of the Church of Scientology that supports this claim.

Another beef I had with the religion proved the most thought provoking. Scientologists believe that psychiatric drugs like Prozac and Ritalin damage the brain and even deny the existence of the conditions these drugs are used to treat. Mindy adamantly insisted that the science behind modern psychiatry was inherently flawed and a danger to patients. The effectiveness of such drugs, she repeated, has “never been proven.” I am not a neuroscientist, and my confidence in these drugs stems from confidence in the scientific method. The difference between Mindy and me is a disagreement in faith. My belief lies with empirical science, while Scientology adheres to Hubbard’s writing.

As banal as some of Scientology’s views may seem, I still respect their right to their own beliefs. A society that can accept Creationism has room for Xenu as well. It turns out that they advocate looking up words in the dictionary to overcome barriers to study. Scientology’s methods do not lead to truth or necessarily to progress, but it remains their right. Still, the OCA and the Church’s staunch rejection of psychiatry are enough to keep me away from Scientology.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 05, 2011, 05:30:31 PM
                   Nation adopts new technology to serve Black Nation, world

‘We are Muslims but if Scientology will help us be better, then I want the technology of this to help us to be better Muslims. Christians can accept it and be better Christians. I don't care who gets it. Just get it and be better at who you say you are.’
—The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan

( - The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan has introduced Black America and the world to modern equipment, which will help in the salvation and liberation of Black people in America and others who are poor, downtrodden and oppressed.

During his recent Saviours' Day address, titled “God Will Send Saviours,” Min. Farrakhan said he found this modern tool called auditing at the Church of Scientology. Auditing means to listen and compute and it helps people return to painful memories that are hidden in their minds or that they have denied exists in their lives. It is a complimentary knowledge that members of the Nation can use to help their people, Min. Farrakhan said.

“The auditor is something like a therapist - not a therapist because therapists talk. Auditors listen and when they listen and not talk, they help you to come up with that which would relieve you of your own pain by bringing you back to it, causing you to face it, confront it, handle it, that you may be freed from it,” Min. Farrakhan said.

Min. Farrakhan said that through the discovery of Dianetics: the Modern Science of Mental Health by L. Ron Hubbard, an author, scientist, religious leader and humanitarian, Scientologists could help his followers better understand and utilize the wisdom they have been given by their Saviour, Master Fard Muhammad. A sincere study of the technology would also make Jesus more real in the lives of Christians, Min. Farrakhan said.

“We are Muslims but if Scientology will help us be better, then I want the technology of this to help us to be better Muslims. Christians can accept it and be better Christians. I don't care who gets it. Just get it and be better at who you say you are,” Min. Farrakhan said, but the process is step by step, degree by degree.

Min. Farrakhan added, “I hate spiritual cowards who don't want to look at things and who feel that because I have something great I can't improve what I have by finding something that will make me a better representative of what I represent,” Min. Farrakhan said.

On Feb. 25 during the Saviours' Day 2011 weekend, nearly 500 Muslims graduated as Certified Hubbard Dianetics Auditors, bringing the total number to 659—a number which has increased since the close of the Nation of Islam annual convention. Last August, 155 Muslims participated in the NOI's first auditors' graduation ever.

Min. Farrakhan spoke briefly and shook the hand of every graduate.

Through his own healing and transformation through the technology, Western Region Student Minister Tony Muhammad has been a catalyst to help bring this tool to help Min. Farrakhan and the Nation better serve Black people. The feeling is indescribable, said Tony Muhammad.

“My wins have been coming into the knowledge and understanding of my own personal demons and devils, to be able to cast them out, and to rightly see myself. I regained my faith, which was slipping,” he said.

Reverend Alfreddie Johnson, of the True Faith Christian Church and founder of the World Literacy Crusade, is helping Min. Farrakhan to deliver the technology of Scientology to the Nation.

“The beautiful thing is when we get this technology, Black folks are going to get it period. It will really relieve us of some of the insanity that plagues our minds and I'm convinced it will help Black people and Whites the world over who need to be healed ... The Nation of believers are rare and they are pivotal in my opinion to salvaging our people and this planet,” Rev. Johnson said.

A journey and struggle

It takes anywhere between three to six months to become a professional auditor. The course consists of a rigorous study of the book, Dianetics, essays, and training, which includes step-by-step drills.

Despite heavy time commitments and other challenges experienced to pursue the study, the Believers persevered, largely because of their level of enthusiasm and high expectations—and desire to follow Min. Farrakhan's leadership.

According to A'ishah Muhammad, Student National Coordinator for the Nation of Islam's National Auditing Department, an elderly couple could not afford to pay for a hotel near the closest Scientology Organization to study so they moved their trailer home onto the grounds until the husband finished his course.

Believers traveled long hours, sometimes four-to-six hours one way, through inclement weather. Many traveled on buses and trains from Philadelphia to New York. They found a way to honor their word and finish the course.

Personal sacrifices, personal gains

Several months ago A'ishah Muhammad and others handpicked by Min. Farrakhan to learn the technology spent six weeks in L.A. She was back home in Chicago for two weeks, and then supported her husband Student Minister Amin Muhammad's study in L.A. for six more weeks.

Muslims display certificates after graduation.
“There are many, many stories of tremendous sacrifice but we didn't feel like it was any real painful experience. Like birth, we just knew it was worth it when it was over,” Mrs. Muhammad said.

“We all want money to be able to do stuff but when you want to help people and you don't know how and then you realize that you've been given a gift that you can lift the burden of pain that would allow people to be better Believers, better men, women, I don't know how you could put a price tag on that and it was given to us by the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan,” her husband Amin Muhammad said.

Renee Muhammad of Muhammad Mosque No. 45 in Houston, Texas lost her husband a little over one year ago. She has two children, ages 10 and 11. In helping her children through grief and moving through their daily lives, she had taken little time to deal with her own pain, except through group counseling.

After several days of auditing by Valerie Muhammad, student Southwest Region MGT-GCC captain, she said the emotional pull of her husband's death was gone. Something was different, she said.

“I was in a different place, a better place, and I really felt bad for the other women in my group who didn't have the benefit of what I'd gone through,” Renee Muhammad said. Adding, her healing made the near four-hour drives to Dallas, starting at 4 a.m. and ending at 8 p.m. on Sundays worth it.

“I know this will be able to help our people just because of what it's done for me. Our people don't seek out therapy as a way to solve problems but this is not like traditional therapy. I think it's an approach that they would be receptive to because they're not put under a trance. It's very calm. No one is being judgmental. It's self-help,” Renee Muhammad said.

“It is not proven by articulation, by theory, nor celebrity endorsement. It proves true because it actually works and any Believer that is sincere in his desire to be a saviour is always looking for whatever tool that will help them to achieve their objective better,” said Student Minister Nuri Muhammad of Mosque No. 74 in Indianapolis, Indiana. He was among the pilot group of student laborers that traveled to L.A. to learn the technology.

Larry Muhammad of Mosque No. 27 in Los Angeles said his obedience to Min. Farrakhan has helped him to become a better reader and now he enjoys learning.

“My first thought was would I be able to do it,” he said. He didn't have a lot of time to study because he assisted his wife, Western Region Student MGT-GCC Captain Aminah Muhammad, host the litany of laborers that traveled to the Celebrity Centre in California for their training.

“I only had an hour or two every other day to spare. I wasn't a real great reader because I never finished high school. I didn't really study and I didn't really learn or read well but I started studying, looking up words that I didn't understand .... understanding the sentences that I was using, then the paragraphs, and I started enjoying what I was doing,” Larry Muhammad said.

Aminah Muhammad said after long days serving others, her husband would stay up until 3:00 a.m.-4:00 a.m. studying. “I stayed with it and stayed with it. People helped me a lot and had a lot of patience with me. It made me a better person with my family, my wife, in dealing with problems and not being irrational about things but being rational and thinking things through and being a better person,” Larry Muhammad said.

Despite the three-hour drive to her nearest study center, Donna Muhammad of Mosque No. 55 in Memphis scrambled for childcare and hit the road. “There were times I had to go on my own and I drove there in the morning. I would leave at about 5:45 a.m. and get back by about 11:30 that night. I had to do that about four times but all the other times I traveled with our group of nine but I thought our journey was hard until I met believers who had to travel six hours to Dallas (Texas) to study,” she said.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 06, 2011, 01:51:49 PM
             Tour Scientology’s Crazy State-Of-The-Art Printing Centre


Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 07, 2011, 03:47:00 PM
                IRELAND  Documentary (amateur)

A documentary about Scientology. Hope to expand this to a longer version. College project.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 08, 2011, 04:05:59 AM
                  Madonna exposé brings Kabbalah Centre under fire
04/06/2011 10:15

'Newsweek' article claims organization's founders live luxuriously, money for Africa charity Raising Malawi went to LA offices.

As the Madonna-run charity Raising Malawi collapses, the Kabbalah Centre is coming under fire for lavish expenses, according to a Newsweek article published this week.

Raising Malawi, which was meant to found a girls' school in one of Africa's poorest countries from which Madonna adopted two children, imploded last week, despite reportedly raising $18 million and spending $3.8 million on the planned school. Kabbalah Centre International, the pop star's partner in the foundation, is now being investigated by the FBI.

........In response to the charges, Kabbalah Centre's lawyer Shane Hamilton told Newsweek that the Bergs' luxurious lifestyle is "a parsonage" that is part of their salary. The organization said that the Bergs "have taken a vow of poverty."
"Disaffected followers have accused Berg and his family of treating congregants like personal servants, housing them four to a bedroom, paying them a $35-a-month stipend, and advising them to apply for food stamps," the article explains. Hamilton explained that that "chevre," Kabbalah center members, "take a vow of service and are supplied with basic necessities in exchange for 12-hour days of labor," much like Scientology's Sea Org. In fact, Newsweek says that the Kabbalah Centre's detractors call the organization "Jewish Scientology.".....

6 page article

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 11, 2011, 06:58:47 PM
                                  New Bowie Biography

David Bowie spiraled into an obsessive fear that a crazed fan would off him following the murder of John Lennon, according to an upcoming unauthorized biography. Due in July, "Starman: David Bowie" also explores the Thin White Duke's bisexuality and his band the Spiders from Mars' ties to Scientology. After Lennon's 1980 assassination, Bowie suffered from "visceral, all-encompassing fear," says author Paul Trynka, and "started to rethink every aspect of his relationship with his fans." He even hired an ex-Navy SEAL to guard him and "took a course" on how to deal with stalkers and killers.

Read more:

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 13, 2011, 07:14:09 PM
                           Fine Print Friday: Scientology’s Sea Org Contract


This week’s contract is very short, but has some significant issues to address. I am aware that it is not likely that many of my readers are going to be signing up for the Church of Scientology’s Sea Organization (which, as far as I can tell, is a religious navy, the purpose of which is to “get ethics in on the planet”). However, the contract for joining the Sea Org (PDF) is particularly intriguing, and likely very difficult to have upheld in Court (which really is the reason for having a contract).

So here’s the analysis for the Sea Org contract:

1. Impossibility. As I have discussed previously, contracts that require performance that is impossible are generally determined to be void. Although the goals of this contract are clearly stated, there is no reason to think that they are in anyway achievable. As is stated in the contract, the goal is “to bring about spiritual freedom of all beings through the application of LRH’s technology.” (I presume that LRH is L. Ron Hubbard.) This goal is incredibly vague, and does not provide any indication of when that goal will have been achieved—which would allow the contract to be considered fulfilled.

2. Incomprehensible Purpose. Although contracts are not required to have a purpose, giving a few statements up front help give context to the contract, which is useful in interpreting the provisions if there is a dispute. (Normally these purpose statements begin with “Whereas.”) This contract includes a purpose, but it is unclear what exactly that purpose is: “to get ETHICS IN on this PLANET AND THE UNIVERSE,” among other things. Generally speaking, a contract cannot be enforced on the basis of the purpose statements, but only with regard to the specific promises outlined in the contract. This means two things for the Sea Org contract: (1) It is entirely unclear what this purpose statement means, and it is therefore of no value of consequence; and (2) even if an understanding of the purpose could be discerned, it could not be the basis for a breach of contract claim.

3. Impracticability. Although the term of the contract is defined (which is important if you are looking at this contract via my Contract Review Checklist), given the typical 80-year lifespan of modern humans, it is impractical to require service for 1 billion years. Impracticability is not the same as either illegality or impossibility; it simply means that a required action has become unreasonably expensive or difficult. Arguably, it is impossible to serve someone for a billion years given the typical human lifespan, but I could see the parties to this contract potentially utilizing the presumed immortality of the soul as being able to serve the remaining 999 million-999 thousand-920 years under the contract. But that still seems impractical somehow, so I would add that problem to the list.

4. Unknown Incorporated Document. If you pay attention, the contract incorporates “Flag Order 232.” But that document is not included with the contract. The purpose of incorporating documents in a contract is to make it known that other conditions or policies apply to a given agreement without needing to re-write and include all those conditions in the contract. Generally, however, there is access to the incorporated terms. If you find yourself signing a contract that incorporates other terms you have not seen (for web services it is usually privacy policies), you should try to find out what those terms are before signing. It’s possible that anyone signing the Sea Org contract already knows what Flag Order 232 is, but without it being attached or available, it shouldn’t be signed.

5. Lack of Consideration. Even if you could throw out all the problems with this contract, there is still a gaping hole in it: there is no consideration! Consideration is necessary for every contract in order to ensure that each side is getting something, rather than just making a gratuitous promise. The Sea Org contract, however, has no consideration—there is nothing that the Sea Org is giving to the lucky person who is pledging 1,000,000,000 years of servitude to them. At its base, a contract is a trade, but this contract only takes, and does not give in return. Therefore, there is no consideration and this cannot even be considered a contract.

It looks like a contract, and it smells like a contract, but it’s not a contract. That’s the danger of not knowing the basics of contracts and how contracts work. Luckily, I expect most of you haven’t had many problems with this particular contract, but it is important to keep these things in mind—particularly if you are the drafter of the contract.

See any other potential problems with this contract? (It’s kind of like Hidden Pictures, isn’t it?) Run into any other sketchy contracts like this? Send them my way, or warn us about them in the comments.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 14, 2011, 04:31:11 PM
                           Scientology TV Special in Works

Scientology segment will also be shot at Clearwater in a 'reality/documentery ex- GO member to consult and possibly interview show guests pro& con
style. The project is still taking investors and the X-GO member will have some content control if he/she can raise a good portion for segment.

From the Producers website:

Grizzly Adams Productions is the company that will generate these telecasts. It is a
well-respected, world-class, values-oriented television production company, in
existence for over 30 years, and second only to Disney in making family friendly films.
It is one of the main companies that produce Biblical programming for secular
markets—which, in recent years, has been in great demand. Some of their most wellknown
documentaries are: The Search for Noah’s Ark, Breaking the DaVinci Code, Ancient
Secrets of the Bible (series) and The Case for the Resurrection (a documentary on the
Shroud). Grizzly Adams Productions, for many years, has maintained contractual
relationships with many primary networks and channels (both secular channels like
Discovery, History, Hallmark and the Learning Channel, and Christian networks like
TBN, Daystar, and INSP). Their films have aired worldwide. More in-depth information
on this company and its leadership appears later in this booklet
Mike Shreve will be appearing in a Grizzly Adams film slated to air this fall (2008)
called There’s More to the SECRET. He will be one of the representatives of Christianity,
sharing the Biblical point of view concerning the extremely popular New Age DVD and
book called The SECRET. This worldwide exposure will add credibility to, and interest
in, the True Light film series, once we begin to air.
This partnership definitely sets the stage for success!
The first film on “The Nature of God” will cost $425,000 to produce; the other 13 films
will cost $400,000 each (a grand total of $5,625,000). We will proceed immediately with
the first film as soon as the necessary funding for that initial program is received. We
could produce the other 13 films one at a time instead of waiting for the funding of an
entire series. All funds are being raised two ways: by donations or by investments.
Funding through foundation grants is also being explored. The millions who will be
impacted by these films are well worth any expense and effort. As already explained,
these films should generate a significant profit, which will help fund the production of
future films—as well as other facets of The True Light Project.
This communication is not an offer to sell, purchase, or invest. It is given to you for informational purposes only.
Please contact David Balsiger of Grizzly Adams Productions or Art Wright of Resource Holdings International for a
Private Placement Offering Memorandum if you are interested in investment opportunities. Contact information is
on the Table of Contents page of the booklet.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 17, 2011, 10:59:53 AM
Scientology will be debated today (Sat. April 16, 2011) in the second half of the 30-minute CBC Radio comedy show The Debaters.

Here is a download link for an mp3 recording of "The Debaters", Sat. April 16, 2011 (size 25.18 MB, duration 27:30). The debate about Scientology is from 14:53 to the end.

Alternate download link:

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 18, 2011, 01:03:38 PM
  David Mayo`s 11 page SP declare is viewable here...

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 20, 2011, 10:18:53 PM
        David Mayo is now posting on ESMB.

Post by: rockyslammer on April 21, 2011, 09:05:40 AM
        David Mayo is now posting on ESMB.

As an aside.  I had a phone call from David yesterday.  As you all know he is an eminent Kiwi!  Just to banish any doubt - it IS him posting on ESMB in several threads.

When you have been to ESMB and seen some of the posts I then have to ask is anyone out there a hotshot contract lawyer??


Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 23, 2011, 11:37:32 AM
                        ORANGEVILLE CITIZEN

Says sect drags out projects
2011-04-21 / Mailbox

In regard to your article, “Scientologists appear before Mono council,” (April 14):

I would like to point out that Scientology has a long history of dragging out construction programs.

For example, their Super Power building in Clearwater Florida had its groundbreaking in 1998, yet the building has never yet been completed. The church made continuous statements that the project would be done “by the end of the year” and such, but it has never been completed. You can see more such history in a letter I sent warning Clearwater at www.lisa htm

Also, Scientology does not like outsiders visiting. In fact, Scientology is trying to close down a highway that goes through their property north of Hemet, California. They turn their sprinklers to face the street and turn them on when protesters come by.

They have guards on bicycles and at all their buildings in Clearwater, and over 100 security cameras (this was given in testimony at a trial).

So I am suggesting first that the community make sure Scientology’s construction projects have a clear and definite completion date, and that you should assume that they will not be friendly to visits by outsiders, if their history in other locations is any indication.

Jeff Jacobsen

Rapid City, SD

Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 02, 2011, 12:07:52 PM
                         Meade Emory died Oct 2010
PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:04 pm

Joined: Mon Jul 25, 2005 6:20 am
Posts: 4999    
Meade Emory is (was) founder of the Church of Spiritual Technology (CST)...the richest and most powerful corporation in the entire Scientology empire, owner of all the copyrights, owner...of the most important trademarks, and being run by the IRS through three non-Scientologist tax attorneys hand-picked by Meade Emory and "the Service"--IRS--to be Special Directors of CST for life.

Meade Emory also was the architect of the entire corporate restructuring...
Emory...had been...Assistant to Commisioner of IRS.
...Meade is also the tax and probate evil genius who masterminded L. Ron Hubbard's...Wills and Trusts--to rip off Hubbard's family of their rightful inheritance.


SME's view, that Meade was a "good" lawyer:
As for Meade and CST, there is much false information all over the web
about this. I worked extensively with Meade as part of the corporate
sortout. As well, Meade and some other attorneys and I were the first
to meet with the top IRS reps...
In my opinion Meade was a very good person and an excellent attorney.
The rumors of them somehow "taking over the church" are completely
unfounded. ...

Meade and two other attorneys were "Special Directors" of CST.
(their function was to ... "attain tax exempt status" and keep it) me these guys DO NOT control scientology through the trademarks or

Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 21, 2011, 05:56:20 PM
                Clearwater mayor irked as Scientology to buy more downtown land

By Mike Brassfield and David Decamp, Times Staff Writers
In Print: Saturday, May 21, 2011

CLEARWATER — Pinellas County is preparing to sell five buildings in downtown Clearwater to the Church of Scientology — much to the annoyance of Clearwater's mayor.

The buildings, on about 2 acres total, are vacant or little used. Most are between the County Courthouse and Scientology's complex of downtown buildings.

County commissioners are to vote on the deal Tuesday. Officials say the church was the only bidder.

For the cash-strapped county, it's a chance to unload five surplus properties for $6.7 million. For the church, it's an opportunity to add to Scientology's ever-expanding holdings in downtown Clearwater.

However, Clearwater Mayor Frank Hibbard said he's frustrated that the city wasn't notified. He said Clearwater might have been interested in acquiring a couple of the parcels.

"Obviously, we knew the county was trying to consolidate properties," Hibbard said. "We were not called to see if we were directly interested in any of the properties."

He added that selling the land to the church missed an opportunity to return it to the property tax rolls. The county-owned land hasn't been taxed for decades. But selling it to a business could have helped the tax base.

"You know, I'm just concerned about having more property off the tax rolls," Hibbard said.

County Administrator Bob LaSala said the sale of the land has followed county procedures. He didn't acknowledge any reluctance to deal with the controversial Scientologists.

"We got a fair price for the property," LaSala said. "We went through a bona fide process, an impartial process."

County Commissioner Neil Brickfield noted the church was the sole bidder. He also noted the land won't necessarily be tax-free, depending on its use.

"We put it out to bid. They bid. They won the bid. Their money's green and spends like everybody else's," Brickfield said.

Roughly two-thirds of Scientology's property in Clearwater is tax-exempt because it's used for religious purposes, but the church's hotels and restaurants are taxed.

Scientology officials didn't return phone calls Friday, so it's unknown what they intend to do with the property.

Two of the five buildings are offices for the county's Department of Environmental Management, which is being dismantled. The other three are vacant.

The Church of Scientology has been buying property in downtown Clearwater since it arrived in 1975. It now owns roughly 30 properties in Clearwater, which it considers its "spiritual mecca."

A version of this story appears in regional editions of the Times.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 26, 2011, 02:52:41 PM
                  Scientologists to pay $6.7 million for Pinellas-owned properties

By David DeCamp, Times Staff Writer
In Print: Wednesday, May 25, 2011

CLEARWATER — The Church of Scientology will expand its footprint in downtown Clearwater after Pinellas County commissioners voted 6-0 Tuesday to sell about 2 acres of county property there.

The county's parcels are vacant or being phased out as part of downsizing and budget cuts. The church, whose growth downtown has miffed some critics, was the sole bidder, agreeing to pay $6.7 million.

"I support the sale — I think it's a great price," County Commissioner Ken Welch said.

The only hint of heartburn over the $6.7 million sale to the church Tuesday came from Commissioner Neil Brickfield. Clearwater Mayor Frank Hibbard complained last week the city wasn't notified of the decision to sell to the church.

"I felt bad," Brickfield said of reading Hibbard's comments in the Times.

Two of the five buildings are offices for the county's environmental management department, which is being dismantled and shifted into public works offices elsewhere. The other three parcels are vacant, including a former gas station.

The properties are:

• 300 S Garden Ave., an environmental management office just south of Scientology's Flag Building.

• 300 S Fort Harrison Ave., a former service station being used for storage just south of the Fort Harrison Hotel.

• 305 and 311 S Osceola Ave., two vacant houses just north of the County Courthouse.

• 512 S Fort Harrison Ave., an environmental management office south of the courthouse.

No Scientology officials spoke during the commission's brief discussion Tuesday. In recent statements to the Times, church spokeswoman Pat Harney said the church plans to soon build a 3,500-seat auditorium next to the property at 300 S Garden. That parcel also borders Court Street and Fort Harrison Avenue.

Harney said the building will be torn down to allow for a "landscaped sculptured garden park befitting the grandeur of the new event hall."

The former gas station next door to the Fort Harrison Hotel will be removed and the land used for a parking garage. Its design will match the hotel's architecture, Harney said.

The County Commission approved putting the land up for sale in October. While Clearwater officials were informed of that decision, the county did not notify them of the decision to sell to the church.

Hibbard said he was disappointed the county wasn't selling to a business to ensure the land went on the tax rolls. While the church has taxable property downtown, about two-thirds of its land is not taxed because it is used for religious purposes.

But county purchasing director Joe Lauro said the county advertised the sale in the newspaper, contacted people possibly interested in buying the land and posted the sale on its purchasing Web site.

The church has long sought the land that it's buying, Harney said. The church began buying downtown properties when it arrived in 1975, amassing about 30 of them. It considers Clearwater its "spiritual mecca."

Commissioner Karen Seel was absent from Tuesday's meeting.

David DeCamp can be reached at or (727) 893-8779. Follow him on Twitter with @DeCampTimes

Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 26, 2011, 02:56:20 PM
             L.A. Council Calls For Investigation Of KCET Studio Construction

Councilman Tom LaBonge called today for an investigation into proposed demolition work on the site of KCET studios, which was sold to the Church of Scientology in April.

LaBonge said he introduced an emergency motion after his office received calls from concerned constituents that demolition had begun on parts of the studio near the intersection of Sunset and Hollywood boulevards in Silver Lake.

``I don't want to see the land of the studio not have a full historic review,' LaBonge said.

The councilman said he had inquired with the city's planning department about what, if any, review had been done and had not received a sufficient answer.

The site, at 4401 W. Sunset Blvd., has been a film and television studio production facility since 1912 and is listed as a Los Angeles Historic Cultural Monument. KCET sold the lot after breaking from PBS to become an independent public television station in January.

Removal of a section of brick pavers inscribed with the names of major KCET donors had begun. At issue is whether those bricks fall under the site's cultural monument status.

Department of Building and Safety spokesman Dave Lara said an inspector sent to KCET today ordered a halt to the work until the planning department can accurately say which parts of the lot are covered under the city's historic preservation ordinance.

``Not every portion of that site is covered. We want to verify that those areas that are (covered) are not tampered with or removed illegally,' Lara said.

He added that it could be a few days before anyone knows exactly which parts of the site are protected from demolition.

According to a KCET statement released late this afternoon, the bricks in question were added 20 years after other parts of the studio -- two sound stages, a theater and old brick buildings and offices -- received their cultural monument designation.

``As the seller -- as in any real estate transaction -- we are removing all signage that belongs to KCET and we will pay tribute to all of those whose generosity had been acknowledged on our studio properly at our new location,' the statement reads. ``In doing so, we are also making every effort to preserve the integrity of the historic landmark the studio lot represents.'

A representative of the Church of Scientology -- which had not filed any applications for demolition permits with the Department of Building and Safety as of Tuesday afternoon -- could not be reached for comment.

KCET and Scientology representatives have been informed of the permitting process, according to Lara.

``(The church) wants to try and get the project going as soon as possible,' he said. ``The church has worked with us in the past, and we're looking forward to continuing a good relationship.'

Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 27, 2011, 03:48:02 PM
                                             L. Ron Hubbub

Scientology officials file claim against city for plumbing damage days before accepting preservation award

By André Coleman 05/26/2011
Two days before the Church of Scientology was presented with an award for preserving the 115-year-old Braley Building on South Raymond Avenue, church officials filed a claim against the city for damages incurred after the historic structure was flooded with raw sewage in November.
“In the early morning of Nov. 23, water backed up through the toilets and sinks [in] the basement,” the claim states. “When personnel came in, they found four inches of raw sewage covering the entire basement area.”
The claim lists damages — including emergency restoration, structural repairs and business and personal property losses — at more than $700,000.
Submitting a claim is the first step in filing of a lawsuit against a government agency. Calls to the Scientology offices were not returned Tuesday. City officials could not comment on the claim due to the possibility of pending litigation.
In 2006, the Church of Scientology purchased the building, valued at the time at $4.9 million, and immediately began evicting its 22 tenants, half of whom had month-to-month leases. The building remained vacant until January 2010, when restoration work began on the deteriorating structure. The project cost an estimated $6.5 million to $7 million and, like the purchase of the building, was paid for by member donations.
The May 16 claim states that the plumbing problem was caused by grease blockage, which forced church officials to call a plumber to stop the flow of sewage into the building.
Two days after the claim was filed, city and state officials honored the group with a Historic Preservation Award as part of National Historic Preservation Month. During the ceremony, Assemblyman Anthony J. Portantino (D-La Cañada Flintridge) also presented the group with a Certificate of Recognition on behalf of the Assembly for rehabilitating the four-story, 50,800-square-foot building.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 27, 2011, 03:52:11 PM
Retraction Reaction
Under threat of lawsuit, The Coast apologizes for two words

The Coast is sorry.
Faced with allegations of defamation, political bias and being a Scientologist, news editor Tim Bousquet was forced to retract his story about Halifax's Liberal candidate, a popular antidepressant and a study that's been blackballed in the medical community.
And all because of two words.
A mere five days before the May 2 election, news editor Tim Bousquet published a story about Halifax Liberal candidate Stan Kutcher. In the story, Bousquet quoted author Alison Bass, stating that Kutcher and the research team “essentially lied" about a controversial drug study that took place in 1992.
That didn't sit well with Kutcher.
Coast editor Kyle Shaw posted a to the website that read, “The Coast referenced, without limitation or criticism, statements to the effect that, Dr. Kutcher, being one of the authors of a research paper, distorted the outcome measures and essentially lied.”
And with that, the original article was erased from the internet.
The story itself was a 800 word 'News Bite' briefly detailing Kutcher's involvement in study 329, a clinical trial of Paxil - an antidepressant drug made by pharmaceutical giant GlaxoSmithKline. Aside from the offending assertion that Kutcher all-but-lied, Bousquet mostly deals with the controversy around the study. Bousquet barely delves into Kutcher's involvement in 329.
Kutcher is quoted, however, as saying that there was no real controversy over the study. He acknowledges a group of people had spoken out about it, but chalks it up to science being “nasty, brutish and long.”
The story is indeed a long one.
In 1992, Kutcher, along with doctors across North America, conducted a study on the efficacy and safety of Paxil, coming to the controversial conclusion that;
“[Paxil] is generally well tolerated and effective for major depression in adolescents.”
And by the peak of 2003, Paxil was the most popular anti-depressant in America. That success is due, in part, to Dr. Kutcher.
Bass' book, Side Effects: A Prosecutor, a Whistleblower, and a Bestselling Antidepressant on Trial, tells the story of Paxil, and how the New York Attorney's office unearthed suppressed information about the drug.
Bass says that GlaxoSmithKline manipulated data in order to make Paxil a “blockbuster drug.” She lays much of the blame on the head doctor on the study, Martin Keller. The company wanted to market the drug to teenagers and children, so they commissioned a series of studies to convince doctors and regulators to prescribe the drug to youth.
According to her research, the drug company didn't get the results they wanted. Not wanting to miss a marketing opportunity, she says that the company and the doctors hid data showing that Paxil was less effective than a Placebo in treating depression in adolescents. Worse yet, she asserts that it drove teenagers to thoughts of suicide. Five times as many youth had “serious psychiatric effects” on Paxil. Worse yet, she argues, some of those teens that became suicidal were removed from the study and their reactions weren't properly categorized in the study.
Keller himself admitted in a letter that, “10 experienced psychiatric symptoms, including...suicidal ideation," but blames it not on the drug, but instead on. “a variety of situational factors,” such as “arguments with boyfriend and parents [and] torment by peers.”
The study records no patients in Halifax that experienced extreme adverse reactions while taking Paxil under Kutcher's supervision.
According to an internal email obtained by the BBC, GSK executives were well aware that Paxil wasn't performing.
"Essentially the study did not really show it was effective in treating adolescent depression, which is not something we want to publicize," reads the memo.
That conclusion was reached by numerous peer-reviewed journals and by the New York attorney general, who led a class-action lawsuit that accused GSK of misrepresenting Paxil.
Not content with the report, GSK hired PR consultant Sally Laden to ghost-write the study. In a deposition for a Californian court, she says that most doctors weren't involved in the process. However, a handful were “very very involved.”
She says that one of those involved in writing the report was Dr. Kutcher. And, according to numerous medical journals, the study they wrote came to a conclusion that was not reflective of the data.
Kutcher was also involved in study 377. The results were dismal, showing that Paxil was no better than sugar for treating depression in youth. While 329 was subject to a market-friendly makeover, 377 was suppressed by the drug company. It didn't see the light of day until the New York district attorney's office forced GSK to release it.
377 discloses each author's involvement in the pharmaceutical industry. Of Kutcher, it lists that he had been a paid consultant for GlaxoSmithKline. It also says that he had "received research grants from, has been a consultant for, or participated on advisory boards of" pharmaceutical heavy-weights GSK, Pfizer, Eli Lilly. He disclosed nine drug companies in total.
The matter had been largely put to rest. Both the FDA and Health Canada recommend against prescribing Paxil to anyone under the age of 18. In a GSK-submission to the Journal of Clinical Psychiatry published this year, the company admits that Paxil may increase suicidal thoughts in both adolescents and adults.
The Coast didn't mention study 377, Kucher's role as a consultant for GlaxoSmithKline nor the doctor's involvement in writing 329.
Despite that, the Liberal campaign team jumped on the story within hours of its being released. In a letter published online, Layton Dorey, president of the Halifax Liberal riding association, defended Kutcher and 329. He cites the doctor's background as an "international leader in the field of adolescent mental health” and attacked Coast author Tim Bousquet as being out of his depth.
The letter goes after Bass' credibility with guilt-by-assocation, stating that she is one of the most cited authors by the Citizens' Commission on Human Rights - a Scientology-sponsored group that questions the safety of the mental health field.
“I'm not a Scientologist ... I have never been a Scientologist. It's a very silly accusation. I'm an investigative journalist,”  Bass says. “It's a very sad indictment of the people around Dr. Kutcher that they would stoop to such levels."
Such accusations were thrown around online in the intense 24 hours that followed the publication of the story. According to Bousquet, The Coast website was even attacked.
Dorey's letter concludes that due to the Coast's use of “inflammatory innuendo" and because the story may harm Kutcher's reputation, the candidate would launch defamation suit against the paper.
The harsh reaction raised the eyebrows of many, as the sticking point appeared to be the “essentially lied.”
Normally journalists would be permitted to quote a reasonable opinion such as that, but many protections that writers receive under the Defamation Act go out the window within five days of an election.
The whole ordeal garnered barely an afterthought in Nova Scotia's largest newspaper, the Chronicle Herald. The story, focusing mainly on the retraction and Kutcher's problems with missing election signs, makes no mention of the allegations or Paxil.
Local tabloid Frank Magazine, undaunted by the looming threat of a lawsuit, wrote that Kutcher was “full of shit” and proceeded to detail the study's sordid reputation amongst medical journals.
With appropriate irony, the day The Coast retracted the Kutcher story, a conference was being held in Toronto dealing with the ethical issues around ghost-writing.
“Everyone that night was talking about Stan Kutcher.” Says Paul Thacker, investigator with the Washington-based Project On Government Oversight.
According to Thacker, the room was incredulous that someone so involved in 329 could consider defending it. He, like many other experts and bloggers who follow the pharmaceutical industry, are amazed that the issue is still up for debate. There no longer appears to be any defense of these studies.
“That study is the classic example of corrupt medical research,” he says. “there’s nothing in [the Coast] story that's factually inaccurate.” And points out that a wealth of information on the story is available readily on Google.
Thacker argues that Kutcher should take responsibility for the study.
“If you’re signing your name on the study, you must be agreeing with what the results are,” he says.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 28, 2011, 05:28:28 PM
                    L. Ron Hubbard Predicted the Destruction of Our Planet

John Cook — The one thing Scientology has always been missing, as far as dangerous cults go, is a good apocalyptic prophecy. It was always more about destroying enemies and controlling time, matter, and energy than heralding the end of days. But it turns out L. Ron Hubbard actually did predict the Earth's destruction.

According to apostate Scientologist Marty Rathbun, the cult's leader David Miscavige revealed to small circle of followers in 2003 that Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard had secretly named the day of the planet's demise:

    Miscavige told the managers that L Ron Hubbard had written a prediction for how long planet earth had left; after which it would exist no more. He did not say what cataclysm would end life as we know it -– but stated definitively L Ron       Hubbard said the planet would be no more by a date certain.


    "You want to know how long LRH said you've got?", he asked in a tech-film worthy take on the tone level of Hate.

    In answer to his own question he said, "it is a lot sooner than you think."

Rathbun, who still follows Hubbard's teachings, thinks Miscavige is lying about the secret prediction. We think Scientology would make a fine apocalyptic cult, and this latest plot twist has runaway bestseller written all over it—Dianetics 2: Xenu's Return.

                                    End of Days

Posted on May 27, 2011 by martyrathbun09| 133 Comments

In late 2003 David Miscavige shared with Interntional Managers of Scientology (Watchdog Committee, International Management Exec Committee, and related staff) one of the endless supply of alleged unpublished L Ron Hubbard writings he alone possessed by virtue of his “tunnels” of LRH archives (see,

Of course Miscavige did not produce any document. As was his wont and privilege, he simply said that the document existed.  Miscavige was addressing a room full of people who had devoted their entire adult lives for the Scientology religion.  They had for the most part forsaken family, friends, and all connection to the world outside the razor wire fenced Int Base compound.  They had gone several weeks holed up at Int Headquarters, which consisted of  makeshift offices constructed within the confines of a couple of double-wide trailers.  They had very little sleep and irregular food over that several week period. They had been beaten and hazed mercilessly by Miscavige, then by others within the group who were encouraged to do the same to one another by Miscavige.  Miscavige was whining and sneering about how these international managers were acting lifeless, unresponsive to his dictates, and acting in what he termed an apathetic fashion.

Miscavige told the assembled that he was sickened by their lethargy and berated them for “non-compliance” with his grandiose plans to take over the planet.   Miscavige told the managers that L Ron Hubbard had written a prediction for how long planet earth had left; after which it would exist no more.  He did not say what cataclysm would end life as we know it – but stated definitively L Ron Hubbard said the planet would be no more by a date certain.

As the managers somehow mustered enough energy to pay attention through glassy eyes, Miscavige contemptuously stabbed, “oh, now I’ve got the attention of you dbs (degraded beings).

“You want to know how long LRH said you’ve got?”, he asked in a tech-film worthy take on the tone level of Hate.

In answer to his own question he said, “it is a lot sooner than you think.”

And with that suppressive END OF DAYS pronunciamento, Miscavige turned on his heels and left the room with a loud, angry stomp.

To me, this incident (one of many in which Miscavige invoked unpublished alleged utterances of LRH) sheds light on how the church of Scientology is incapable of reform, and how its devoted members can continue to act in such ignorant, arrogant, and insane fashions.

It also highlights just how REVERSED the subject has become.

Scientology is predicated upon the principle of workability, and use of that which is workable to evolve humanity to higher states.  And that is where its power and worth lies.  It is what sets it apart from so many other religions, isms, and ologies – it is not predicated on forcing revolution through fear; it is predicated upon facilitating evolution through understanding.

What we have been witnessing is Miscavige converting the latter to the former.

Let’s look at the Wikipedia definition of End of Days:

The End Time, End Times, or End of Days is a time period described in the eschatological writings in the three Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam) and in doomsday scenarios in various other non-Abrahamic religions. In Christianity, the End Times are often depicted as a time of tribulation that precedes the Second Coming of the Christian “saviour” or a “hoped-for deliverer”, Jesus, the Christian Messiah, who will usher in the fullness of the World to Come and Kingdom of God and bring an end to suffering and evil and all things wrong with the current world. In Islam, Yawm al-Qiyāmah “the Day of Resurrection” or Yawm ad-Din “the Day of Judgement”, Allah’s final assessment of humanity, is preceded by the end of the world. In Judaism the term “End of Days” is a reference to the Messianic era and the Jewish belief in the coming of Mashiach and the Olam Haba. Various other religions also have eschatological beliefs associated with turning and redemption.

Since the advent of modern science in the 18th century, the discovery of deep time, and the age of the Earth, the concept of an “End of Days” has been replaced in contemporary discourse with questions about the ultimate fate of the universe. Most scientists believe that the “end time” will finally one day occur hundreds of billions of years from now with the heat death of the universe.

For those who have studied and applied much Scientology, no long string of quotations and references is required to demonstrate how the End Of Days concept is anathema to the subject of Scientology.

And I don’t think it necessary to paint a picture of how inculcation of such notions could be destructive of everything Scientology has to offer.

I publish this post simply to indicate some relevant information to help people think with the conundrum, “how could people act so narrow-mindedly, bigoted, and insane in the name of a subject so effective in handling narrow-mindedness, bigotry and insanity?”

Post by: Ididntcomeback on June 03, 2011, 09:38:15 AM
          Man trying to sell Clearwater property using Church of Scientology as bargaining chip

By Drew Harwell, Times Staff Writer
In Print: Thursday, June 2, 2011

CLEARWATER — The owner of a downtown auto garage claims to have an unusual bargaining chip in his attempts to sell his property: the Church of Scientology.

Charlie Gruver offered his old gas station, Gruver's Chevron Service, to the city for $1.5 million. He said its location, on the way to Clearwater Beach, was a good fit for the city's downtown redevelopment plans.

Officials opted against buying the property, balking at the asking price. That's when Gruver told them he would instead sell the land to church representatives, who he said had recently shown interest.

In few cities would such a gambit make sense. But the church's purchase last week, of two downtown acres for $6.7 million, led a frustrated Mayor Frank Hibbard to question why the land wasn't being kept on the tax rolls. The church is exempt from paying taxes on its religious facilities.

Gruver, 53, said that conflict meant he had an upper hand with the city. "Hell, they're buying everything else out there," he said.

One problem: the church says it isn't interested. Spokeswoman Pat Harney said church representatives had never made an offer for the lot at 415 S Fort Harrison Ave.

Even if they had, Hibbard said, that's not reason enough for the city to make a deal.

"We're looking for strategic parcels," Hibbard said, not "trying to buy property to block the church. That's an impossible task. That's not our mission."

Gruver's father, Gene, opened the service station 65 years ago. Gruver took over the business when his father died in 2006.

But after state environmental inspectors found the station's oil tanks were faulty, a court ordered the tanks sealed. Gruver converted the station, earning $100,000 a month, into a small garage, earning $30,000 a year, and took on a second job as night-shift clerk at a Circle K.

As drivers' business passed, the station held the attention of a different kind of audience: city code enforcement. Officers returned often to the garage, its lot dotted with cars in disrepair, across the street from the picturesque Old Pinellas County Courthouse.

After Gruver removed his Sunoco gas-price sign, the city complained the steel pole needed to go, too. Gruver offered to replace it with a different sign, he said, but the city nixed his design.

He said he had neither the money nor the equipment to remove the pole and its underground wiring. The city responded by filing a lien on his property, accruing at $100 a day. His fees stand at more than $20,000.

Gruver has tried to sell the garage for three years, at an original asking price of $3 million. He said the few offers he got, including a carwash, were denied by zoning officials who targeted the land for downtown retail.

He said he's ready to sell to anyone but won't budge on his price, nearly four times the county's assessed market value. He can always fall back on the church, he said.

"They said they'd be in touch."

Contact Drew Harwell at (727) 445-4170 or

Post by: Ididntcomeback on June 05, 2011, 04:37:49 PM
Published Date:
04 June 2011

                Protest as Scientologists set out stall to peddle 'nonsense'

Scientologists are preparing to launch a new assault on Edinburgh – by setting up in a Leith shopping centre.

• The Scientology 'mission' on Princes Street.

The controversial group has applied for a street traders' licence for the New Kirkgate Centre in Leith, to run from 9am to 7pm every day from July 1 to December 31.

Local councillor Gordon Munro has vowed to block the group from promoting what he called "its nonsense" in Leith.

A spokesman for the group said that if the application was granted, members would carry out "stress tests" and related activities with passers-by.

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The Church of Scientology, which includes John Travolta and Tom Cruise among its followers, already has a centre on South Bridge called the Hubbard Academy of Personal Independence where members ask passers-by to enter and take "personality tests", before promoting their lectures and publications by Scientology leader the late L Ron Hubbard.

Munro said: "The last thing Leith needs is a bunch of Scientologists pretending they are the answer to personal problems and the planet's problems.

"This application seeks to take over the foot of the Walk every day from 9am to 7pm from July to December to promote this nonsense.

"I hope the committee sees sense when they consider this and will reject this application."

Cllr Munro has lodged a written objection to the licence application which states that the location is "a busy pedestrian route which will be inhibited by the location of this organisation's activities".

He also wrote that the proposal would bring about "the distinct possibility of undue public nuisance".

The licence application is in the name of the Hubbard Foundation Scotland and Gordon Reid.

Mr Reid, a spokesman for the Scientologists, said when asked what was planned: "We do different things, we do stress testing and what we normally do. At this stage it's just an application, so there's not really any comment."

In April, Mr Reid helped to organise an anti-drugs protest by young mothers at the New Kirkgate Centre. During the protest, mothers handed out information produced by Drug Free World, a Scientology-backed anti-drugs movement.

The protest saw the mums donning T-shirts and protesting in front of banners produced by Drug Free World, although they said that they had only used the materials because they were free, not because they were themselves Scientologists.

In 2008, anti-Scientology protest group Anonymous Scotland held a protest in Hunter Square, close to the South Bridge centre, to complain about the church's activities.

In October 2008, Scientologists also aroused anger among passers-by, by putting up a tent in front of General Register House on Princes Street to act as a "mission".


Post by: Ididntcomeback on June 09, 2011, 08:59:51 PM
                    Angry Gay Pope Infilitrates Mission Beverly Hills (HD)

Scientology's Beverly Hills Mission turns into Mission Beverly Hills for the Angry Gay Pope. I show how it is almost impossible to walk into their bookstore and actually buy a book, "All About Radiation." A Hubbard classic. Guest star dumb Dave stammers and ums his best propaganda until my cover is blown discussing the anti-Gay cult bible Dianetics. Like what you see? Please donate at . Even tiny donations help! :

Post by: Ididntcomeback on June 13, 2011, 07:21:19 PM
                       Fire-raising threat to Scientologists

Published Date:
11 June 2011
Published Date:
11 June 2011
POLICE are investigating a fire-raising threat sent to the Scientology offices in Edinburgh in the wake of the organisation's bid to set up a stall at a Leith shopping centre.
The Evening News revealed last weekend that the controversial group had applied for a street traders' licence for the Newkirkgate shopping centre, where they planned to carry out "stress tests" and discuss the organisation's beliefs with passers-by.

In the wake of the news, the Scientologists' Edinburgh base, Hubbard Academy of Personal Independence on South Bridge, received the threat, contained in a letter, on Tuesday.

Scientology spokesman Gordon Reid said that despite the controversy that surrounds the group - which counts Tom Cruise and John Travolta among its followers - it should be afforded respect. He said: "First Minister Alex Salmond recently announced priority plans to tackle sectarianism. Given the amount of conflict and bloodshed that has been fuelled by religious intolerance for too many years, many support this initiative.

"An article in Saturday's News reported on intolerance towards a newer religion, Scientology. Following this article, the Church of Scientology received an arson threat.

"There are many different religions in the world, and even strongly different views within religions. There is nothing to lose from respecting another's religious beliefs, and potentially much to gain - including the creation of a more harmonious society, for one."

The application submitted by the group for the Newkirkgate Centre was to set up every day from 9am to 7pm, from July to December.

It would use "volunteer ministers" to carry out what the group calls stress tests, similar to those offered to passers-by on South Bridge, where members also promote their lectures and publications by Scientology leader, the late L Ron Hubbard.

The application was strongly opposed by Leith councillor, Gordon Munro, who branded the church's beliefs "nonsense" and wrote to object to it.

Councillor Munro said: "I think reason, not arson, is the way to argue against the Scientologists, and I deplore anybody that makes that kind of threat. I understand why they engender such strong emotions because of the exploitative way they treat people. However, I would advocate reason."

The group has previously had one-off events run by volunteer ministers in the shopping centre and in Princes Street.

In 2008, anti-Scientology protest group Anonymous Scotland held a protest in Hunter Square to complain about the church's activities.

A police spokesman said: "We have received a complaint regarding a threatening letter, and an investigation is under way. Anyone with any information that can assist our inquiries should contact the police."

Post by: Ididntcomeback on June 24, 2011, 01:59:36 AM

                      'Criminon Training Programme' for police planned

KARACHI: The Home Department is considering a proposal to get train the police personnel against extremism using 'Criminon Programme'

The criminon is an international non-profit public benefit corporation dedicated to addressing the causes of criminality and restoring the criminal's self-respect through effective drug detoxification, education and common sense programs.

"By making them responsible for their actions, people under the Criminal Justice system can become ethical and productive citizens," said Saleem Aziz, the Executive Director for Advancement of Health, Education and Environment (SAHEE) while talking to the Home Department's Consultant on Home Affairs, Sharfuddin Memon here on Thursday.

He said that Criminon operates a network of groups in 35 countries across the globe, delivering Criminon workshops, courses and programmes in jails, prisons, parole and probation offices, courthouses and re-entry facilities, as well as providing training for correctional officers and programme personnel.

Aziz said that Criminon programme consists of 4 steps aimed at creating sense of responsibility on the police personnel as well as others who can operate confidently in the society avoiding influences from extremist elements.

"The programme is proposed to be started as Pilot Project in which 50 police personnel on VVIP/VIP duties would be selected for training," Aziz further told the Consultant.

"The programme could be incorporate into syllabus of police training centres," he maintained.

Responding to the briefing by Aziz, the Consultant said that law and order issue and other security measures were of great concern for the government.

"Providing protection to officials, at places of worship and ordinary citizens are vital talks which have to be ensured at all costs," Memon said.

He hoped that the police personnel once inducted in the 'Criminon Programme' would ensure much greater reliability and higher level of efficiency.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on July 26, 2011, 12:39:09 AM
Picturesque San Marcos venue leaves couples at the altar
Private school with ties to Scientology owes thousands to landlord
By Kevin Acee July 21 2011
...................The tenant on the schoolhouse lease is listed as Ability Academy, Inc., which operates Old Richland Schoolhouse Events and Applied Scholastics Academy San Marcos, which also will close July 31.

Applied Scholastics International is a nonprofit formed in 1972 “to provide effective education services, training and materials” using methods known as Study Technology developed by author L. Ron Hubbard, who founded Scientology.

Applied Scholastics said it paid $9,680.72 a month in rent, with an increase scheduled for Aug. 1. The kindergarten-through-sixth-grade private school was supported by tuition payments, and the event business was used to help cover the rent and maintenance, Applied Scholastics said.

Responses to questions emailed to Kim Holland, the director of the San Marcos academy, were sent by fax from Applied Scholastics International in St. Louis. The fax from the St. Louis office stated that “the economic slump” affected enrollment and event bookings over the past three or four years.

Refunds to event clients are unlikely because “all the money available was utilized to keep the (school) doors open and properly maintained” to complete the school year, the fax stated.

Eric de Jong said he has been working with the school on its late payments and short payments for 12 months.

“They just pretty much said, we can’t do this anymore,” he said.


Post by: Ididntcomeback on July 30, 2011, 12:17:02 PM
Scientology's Hollywood Landmarks: More from THR Reporter Daniel Miller
By Tony Ortega Fri., Jul. 29 2011 at 9:00 AM

Last week we ran a brief item about Daniel Miller's story about Scientology's Hollywood properties which ran at The Hollywood Reporter.

The more we looked at Miller's piece, however, the more impressed we were with how much investigative work he'd done on it, and the people he'd talked to -- including Tommy Davis, Scientology's excitable spokesman, who has been out of the public eye lately. We wanted to know more about that, and other things, so we sent over some questions to Miller. After the jump, his responses!

Scientology spokesman Bob Adams told you that "Scientology is expanding and growing like never in history." Did he offer you any proof of that, other than the purchasing or redevelopment of buildings?

The questions I asked of Adams were centered on real estate, so generally discussing the expansion or growth of the church really wasn't a focus of mine. Once I realized just how complicated a thorough story on the church's Hollywood real estate holdings was going to be, I had to set aside a lot of other interesting topics and focus on the core story.

You described the Celebrity Centre in evocative terms. Did you get a chance to eat at the restaurant, Renaissance? The food there really is terrific. I can still remember vividly the dish of Chilean sea bass and wild rice that I had.

I actually didn't get an official tour of the Celebrity Centre while reporting this story, though one day I did check it out on my own -- with a stroll around the perimeter of the property -- just to soak up a bit of the atmosphere. It is really a fascinating place, with an amazing (though perhaps fictional) back-story filled with Hollywood intrigue and innuendo. I think for most Angelenos, it is the Church's most recognizable building -- many people know about the Sunday brunch that the restaurant Renaissance serves. But I have toured the Celebrity Centre in the past; in 2007, while working on a less comprehensive story on the church's Hollywood holdings for a different publication, I was given a tour of the property. It was then that I got the chance to eat at Renaissance, and I came away impressed. I couldn't tell you what I ate there, but I know it was French cuisine, and tasty.

Some of our readers were surprised that Tommy Davis shows up in your piece. The usually high-profile spokesman for Scientology has been scarcely seen or heard from in recent months. When did you actually speak with him? Was it in person?

Tommy Davis was very involved in representing the church for much of the time I spent reporting my story. He and I did several interviews -- in April and May -- all via e-mail or the telephone. We never met in person. I last heard from Davis during the third week of June. It was around then that another of the church's spokesmen, Bob Adams, began working with me. Along with Davis, Adams is also quoted in my story and he accompanied me when I spent a day touring various facilities with the church's real estate team at the end of June. Like my story indicates, both Davis and Adams answered nearly every question I asked of them, usually in very detailed responses.

You handled a section about the RPF particularly well, I thought. You pointed out that other religions also have hard core members who will do menial work for low pay. But I'm trying to think if any other religions use menial work as a form of punishment. Can you think of any?

I'm not an expert in religions, so on this matter, I defer to the sort of scholars I interviewed for my story, including Hugh Urban from Ohio St. University. I found what Urban had to share about religious groups such as monastic Christian communities that ask their members to perform various kinds of labor to be particularly interesting. Urban and I didn't discuss this in the context of punishment.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on July 31, 2011, 11:40:39 AM
Lisa McPherson Scientology case drove Joan Wood from medical examiner to recluse

By Andrew Meacham, Times Staff Writer
In Print: Saturday, July 30, 2011

Dr. Joan Wood once enjoyed prominence and prestige as a medical sleuth like the heroes of the mystery books she read.

As the Pinellas-Pasco medical examiner for 18 years, she conducted more than 5,600 autopsies and testified in hundreds of murder trials.

But the case she will be remembered for most is the one she botched: the 1995 death of Lisa McPherson.

Based on Wood's findings, prosecutors charged the Church of Scientology in connection with McPherson's death. Their case crumbled when, four months before trial, Wood changed her conclusions.

The decision cost Wood her reputation, her job and her Florida medical license. The fallout so scarred Wood that she slipped into a reclusive retirement.

For the last eight years, she lived in a quiet townhome on Indian Rocks Road. Her closest neighbors saw FedEx or UPS trucks delivering parcels at her home every couple of days but saw Wood only once or twice over the last three years.

She didn't even emerge to walk her schnauzer, Pepper. A male companion did that.

On July 8, Wood had a stroke and was taken to Morton Plant Hospital. She died 11 days later.

She was 67.

Hardly anyone in the life she had once occupied — not police, not judges, not even employees in the Medical Examiner's Office — knew of her death until it appeared in the newspaper a week later.

• • •

Before McPherson and throughout most of Wood's career, co-workers knew her as bright and outgoing, a woman with a dry wit who smoked filtered cigarettes and sipped decaffeinated coffee from a mug that said, "Oy, the pressure!"

"She was a wonderful woman, brilliant and so dedicated to her job as a medical examiner," said Jacqueline Martino, a former chief investigator who worked alongside Wood for 16 years.

She devoured mystery novels and saw her work as a chance to solve puzzles.

"I think she felt she was like the TV series Quincy," said ex-husband Leonard Dachsel, referring to the TV coroner from the 1970s who found foul play where others suspected none.

Said Jeffrey Goodis, her former attorney: "I think she considered herself to be speaking for people who otherwise couldn't speak for themselves."

Wood shouldered the job with poise. She answered calls at all hours, including back-to-back requests one Christmas Eve to visit a crime scene in the woods, then examine a victim in a hospital. She embraced the job's staggering workload, intense time pressures and dauntingly high stakes. A blown call on an autopsy, after all, could send an innocent person to prison or set a murderer free.

Her unflappable demeanor and command of the facts made her a formidable opponent in trials for defense lawyers.

"She was an extraordinarily good witness, I thought," said lawyer Patrick Doherty. "She was calm and matter-of-fact. In the middle of her testimony she would pause and spell certain words. She certainly felt that she was part of the prosecution team, and she clearly was."

That all ended after McPherson.

On Nov. 18, 1995, McPherson, a long-time Scientologist, was involved in a minor traffic accident in Clearwater, after which she seemed disoriented. Church members cared for her 17 days, but her condition weakened. They took her to a hospital where she was declared dead.

Wood initially attributed the blood clot that caused McPherson's death to "severe dehydration." Prosecutors charged the church with two felonies: practicing medicine without a license and abuse of a disabled adult.

The church made the case a top priority, commissioning its own studies, sending Wood thousands of pages of documents, including numerous subpoenas.

"It became very difficult," said Martino, 56. "I think she almost tried to stand alone against this behemoth, Scientology."

With a trial date four months away, Wood stunned prosecutors by changing McPherson's death certificate, amending the manner of death from "undetermined" to "accident."

Prosecutors had no choice but to drop the charges in the high-profile and controversial case. Four years of work had been wasted. The prosecutors who Wood had once considered teammates now looked at her as a pariah. She asked a chief assistant prosecutor if they could still be friends. He said no.

She resigned three months later.

"Once the medical examiner changes her opinion, it kind of makes her testimony fairly worthless," said former Chief Judge Susan Schaeffer, who would have presided over the trial. "It just doesn't sound right to be so positive and then say, 'I was wrong.' "

The ordeal was devastating to Wood. The once hard-charging woman was now brittle.

"I think it just changed her," Martino said. "And the outside criticism of people changed her."

• • •

Before McPherson, Wood's resume read like a fulfilled promise.

A local product, Wood graduated from Boca Ciega High School, the University of South Florida and the University of Florida College of Medicine.

She joined the Medical Examiner's Office in 1975 under Dr. John Shinner, then succeeded him in 1982. She was appointed to head the Florida Medical Examiners Commission.

After she left office, scrutiny began to mount over more of her decisions, notably her finding that 7-month-old Rebecca Long of Holiday had died in 1998 of shaken-baby syndrome.

Four pathologists, including Dr. Jon Thogmartin, Wood's successor, determined Rebecca had actually died of pneumonia.

Court officials tried to subpoena Wood for more than a year, but no one could find her. When deputies went to her home, she wouldn't come out.

The state dropped charges against Rebecca's father. State Attorney Bernie McCabe asked his assistants to look into other child homicide findings during Wood's tenure.

That led to the release of John Peel, who had served four years in prison on a manslaughter conviction. Wood had determined that Peel's 2-month-old son died of shaken-baby syndrome, but the review showed no signs of hemorrhaging.

In May of this year, Thogmartin gave an interview to the PBS program Frontline in which he attributed the initial findings in the Long and Peel cases to "a prosecutorial bias, I think that 'go get him' kind of thing."

Wood tried to resurrect her career with a consulting business in 2002. It lasted a year.

Wood never emerged into the public eye again.

"Sadly, the Scientology episode took its toll on Joan Wood," said lawyer Denis de Vlaming. "That was her demise. She became almost a recluse after she changed her findings."

Martino says she will never know, but suspects Wood had misgivings over the outcome of the McPherson case. "I am not 100 percent certain Joan felt 100 percent sure that she had done the right thing," Martino said.

Perhaps tellingly, McCabe and Pinellas-Pasco Public Defender Bob Dillinger declined to comment about Wood's death for this article. Thogmartin did not return repeated phone calls.

Wayne Skidmore, who was moving items out of Wood's home on Wednesday, said he has been Wood's companion the last eight years.

"I'm not going to say anything more," said Skidmore, 60. "I'm just going to protect her."

In a rare interview in 2002, one of the last she ever gave, Wood told the St. Petersburg Times that she had suffered panic attacks, lost sleep and rarely went out.

She acknowledged that years ago she had considered leaving forensic science for a career in psychiatry.

"I wish now I had," she said.

Times researcher Carolyn Edds contributed to this report.

. biography

Dr. Joan E. Wood

Born: July 17, 1944

Died: July 19, 2011

Survivors: brother Dr. John Wood.

Service: To be arranged.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 07, 2011, 02:01:59 PM
Revealed: Secret war on the Scientologist 'mafia' launched by Wilson government in 1970s

By Marc Horne

Last updated at 10:41 PM on 6th August 2011

The Church of Scientology was considered such a threat to the UK that in 1975 the Government put its members under secret surveillance, according to newly released files.

Previously classified documents reveal that Ministers wanted to undermine and discredit the group because it was said to be ‘mafia-like’ and its activities ‘harmful and evil’.

They believed senior Scientologists were inflicting ‘barbaric’ punishments on followers and drove them away from their families.

The papers show the Government held clandestine meetings to discuss how to reduce the activities of Scientologists in the UK, which included moves to tax the church’s income and turn down visa applications from foreign members.

Today, the Church of Scientology attracts a celebrity following, particularly among Hollywood’s elite. Tom Cruise, Katie Holmes and John Travolta are among its supporters.

However, it has been claimed it is a cult that defrauds its followers by charging them exorbitant fees.

The documents, contained in secret files on Scientology and placed in the National Archives, reveal that in July 1975, the then Home Secretary Roy Jenkins hosted a summit on how best to rid Britain of the group.
Secret base: Scientology's British headquarters at Saint Hill, East Grinstead, Sussex

Secret base: Scientology's British headquarters at Saint Hill, East Grinstead, Sussex

Ministers of Harold Wilson’s Labour Government agreed to begin undermining the group, and a 1976 document entitled Action To Curb Scientologists reads: ‘Police forces should build up as detailed a composite picture as possible of the organisation’s activities.’
Founding father: L Ron Hubbard, creator of the Church of Scientology

Founding father: L Ron Hubbard, creator of the Church of Scientology

Scientology, founded by American sci-fi author L. Ron Hubbard in 1954, was the subject of much scepticism at the time. A 1968 exclusion order, based on the idea that followers of the so-called religion were ‘socially harmful’, banned foreign members from entering the UK.

In 1975, internal correspondence from the Home Office said: ‘The Church of Scientology does not merely persuade people to part with their money. It is a harmful movement with an evil reputation.’

It classified the group as ‘an organisation designed to make money, and perhaps also to gain power’ which targeted ‘the anxious, the lonely, the inadequate, the credulous and deluded’.

The papers added: ‘It is obtaining large sums of money for its courses on the strength of wild claims that they will cure all sorts of physical and mental ills.’

Further Government material said to be based on Scientology documents claimed there was evidence of abuse.

It says: ‘Members have been imprisoned for 48 hours in a hatch which was too small to allow them to lie down or stand up and a water hose was frequently turned on them.

'Others have been ordered to work for 48 hours in the bowels of a ship in darkness, chipping away rust with a 15-minute break every six hours.’
Prominent members: Tom Cruise and wife Katie Holmes are both Scientologists

Prominent members: Tom Cruise and wife Katie Holmes are both Scientologists

One police report sent to Scottish Office Ministers noted: ‘The organisation is mafia-like in its hold on adherents and rarely, if ever, does one relinquish voluntarily his membership.’

The Church of Scientology sent The Mail on Sunday a seven-page response denying the alleged abuses and providing 45 pages of additional information.

Spokesman Graeme Wilson said the archive papers were a ‘snapshot’ of ‘government harassment’, adding: ‘The Government of the United Kingdom owes the Church of Scientology an apology for this atrocious treatment.’

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Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 16, 2011, 04:51:34 PM
August 15th, 2011
               Church bill was aimed at Scientology, portal reports
By Hungary Around the Clock

Excluding Scientology from the list of recognised churches was one of the key goals of amendments made by Fidesz to the church bill submitted by the Christian Democrats, news website Origo has reported.

Sources who know the details of the decision but who asked that their name be withheld said Speaker László Kövér initiated the changes at a meeting of the Fidesz executive prior to the vote in Parliament expressly to ensure that Scientology would not be granted church status.

The law, due to enter into force on January 1, recognises only 14 churches, but Parliament has the power to add other churches to that number.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 17, 2011, 07:53:16 PM
On August 5, we started a countdown that will give credit -- or blame -- to the people who have contributed most to the sad current state of Scientology. From its greatest expansion in the 1980s, the church is a shell of what it once was and is mired in countless controversies around the world. Some of that was self-inflicted, and some of it has come from outside. Join us now as we continue on our investigation of those people most responsible...

The Top 25 People Crippling Scientology

                        #21: Kendrick Moxon, attorney for the church

​Kendrick Moxon is very good at his job.

The Scientologist and attorney is renowned for making the prospect of litigating against the church a very uncomfortable experience -- and he's been at that work for quite a long time.

Moxon goes back so far, before he was an attorney he was caught up in the government's crackdown on Scientology's "Guardian Office," which carried out what is still the largest illegal infiltration of federal agencies in this country's history. That covert operation, dubbed "Operation Snow White" by the GO, was a massive undertaking, an attempt to quietly break into government offices to steal documents that were unflattering to Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard. In 1977, four years after it began, the operation resulted in FBI raids in Washington D.C. and Los Angeles, and 11 church officials ultimately pleaded guilty or were convicted of obstructing justice and other charges. One of the officials was L. Ron Hubbard's wife, Mary Sue.

Hubbard himself, like Moxon, was named an "unindicted co-conspirator," and wasn't prosecuted.

Moxon then was a legal affairs employee in the Guardian's Office. He went on to become a lawyer, and these days, he's known for how uncomfortable he can make a deposition.

"He has made a career out of being a pit bull for the church in the legal arena," Mike Rinder says.

Rinder was a longtime high-ranking member of Scientology and its chief spokesman before he left the organization in 2007. He also, at one time, oversaw the Office of Special Affairs, which replaced the Guardian's Office as the church's intelligence and covert operations wing. And his work made him intimately familiar with Moxon's role.

"He's been a lawyer for the church from the early 1980s. He teamed up with a guy named Tim Bowles to form 'Bowles and Moxon.' But effectively, they were in-house counsel," he says.

"He is very good at needling people in depositions, and being smarmy and trying to get under people's skin. That's what he's renowned for. To needle and antagonize people and to get them to say things they probably didn't want to say," Rinder adds.

So if he's good at what Scientology wants him to do, why is he on this list? Take it from someone who's dealt with the guy -- he's one of the chief reasons Scientology has such a nasty, litigious reputation, and one that hardly seems to fit the nature of a "church."

"Tony, I couldn't agree with you more," Rinder said when I shared those thoughts with him. "Moxon epitomizes in the court system what the Squirrel Busters epitomize on the streets. The only people who think what Moxon and the Squirrel Busters do is cool is themselves. Everyone else looks at them and says, what a bunch of morons."

I have an anecdote that may shed some further light on what it's like to work with Moxon.

In 1999, I wrote a story about Scientology's use of "fair game" on the attorney Graham Berry, about how Moxon in particular had convinced a man named Robert Cipriano to testify to disgusting things about Berry by procuring Cipriano a home, a car, and a job -- and I had the documents in Moxon's name to prove it.

Moxon had come personally to our newspaper offices to try and argue our editor and our attorney out of printing the story. But as my attorney pointed out, you really can't argue with documents. The story ran, and Moxon went away. Or so I thought.

Some time later, I heard from Gerry Armstrong. If you don't know Gerry's story, you should really take the time to look it up. At one point he was so trusted personally by L. Ron Hubbard, he had been assigned the job of compiling information for what would be an official biography of the church founder. Later, he ran afoul of the church, which hounded him and hunted him down. By the time I talked to him, Gerry was living in Canada and had been through the wringer.

But Gerry was as enthusiastic as ever, and he wanted me to see a whole box full of documents that he had lying around. And you know when Gerry said he had documents, they were probably pure gold. I told him that of course I wanted to see them. Could he copy a set and mail it to me? I told him I'd be happy to pay his costs.

Offering to pay his copying costs was just standard journalistic good manners. After Gerry told me how much he'd spent to copy the hundreds of pages and then mail them, I had the newspaper send him a check for what he'd spent -- I think it was around $80.

A few days later, I got a call from Kendrick Moxon.

I couldn't imagine why he'd be calling. And what he did say completely stunned me.

"Paying your sources for stories now, Ortega?"

The little hairs on the back of my neck stood up. I think I fumbled through a bluff -- "I don't know what you're talking about, Moxon," or some such. "Of course we don't pay for stories," I told him before I managed to get off the phone.

To this day, I don't know whether Moxon had a mole in my office, or someone checking Gerry's mail, or how he figured out that I'd sent Gerry a check -- which, again, I will point out was completely proper. But the intent was clear -- to creep me out, to make me feel uncomfortable with something that was actually wholly legitimate, and to make me paranoid. And Kendrick Moxon is very, very good at that.

I would be surprised if our readers didn't have Moxon anecdotes of their own. Please share!

Honorary Mention: I know that some of our readers will howl if I don't also mention Moxon's current law partner, Helena Kobrin, along with him in this countdown.

Kobrin certainly etched her name in Scientology-watching history with her notorious 1995 attempt to have the legendary Usenet newsgroup "alt.religion.scientology" shut down. That only made ARS an overnight sensation and helped attract free speech activists to become critics of Scientology, a movement that continues to this day.

But Rinder suggests that Kobrin really doesn't deserve to be seen in the same light as Moxon. "She was told to do that by Warren McShane. Absolutely no question," Rinder says. McShane was president of the Religious Technology Center, a church entity that controls Scientology's trademarks, and for which Moxon and Kobrin work.

"She was put into a position that made her into an ogre. She didn't enjoy that," Rinder added. "She has a different personality than Rick Moxon. She did some things she probably shouldn't have done, but she did them because she was told to do it."

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 18, 2011, 12:11:46 PM
              Scientologists ditch plans to run stall in Kirkgate shopping centre

Published Date:  UK
17 August 2011

Controversial group the Scientologists have backed down on their plan to set up a stall every day for six months in a Leith shopping centre.

The group applied for a street traders' licence for a stand in the New Kirkgate Centre from 9am to 7pm every day from July 1 to December 31.

The application drew objections from local people, the area's community council, and from Leith Councillor Gordon Munro, who vowed to stop the group promoting what he called "its nonsense" in the shopping centre.

After the application was reported in the Evening News, the Scientologists received a letter threatening to set fire to their Edinburgh office, which was investigated by police.

Scientology public affairs director Graeme Wilson confirmed that the group had now withdrawn its application.

He said: "The purpose of our activities is to give help to the community so we of course took on board concerns about keeping the area as a clearway for pedestrians. There are no plans at this point for doing something similar elsewhere."

Cllr Munro said that he had received notification from council officers that the application had been withdrawn, followed by a letter from the Scientologists themselves confirming their decision.

He said: "They were saying they've decided to withdraw their application after consultation with roads department and with local shopkeepers and residents."

The group said at the time of its application that it wanted to use the stall to carry out "stress tests" and related activities with passers-by.

Earlier this year Scientology spokesman Gordon Reid joined an anti-drugs protest at the shopping centre by a group of young mothers, who used material from the Scientology-backed Drug Free World campaign - although the group said it was not directly affiliated with the Scientologists.

Cllr Munro said he thought the proposed stall was likely to have acted as a stepping stone to controversial courses and books offered by the Scientologists for a charge, and he was not convinced that the proposed stand would be have been used purely to help those in need.

"I think the reason for the application was not based on tackling the drug problem. It was more to do with fundraising for their organisation," he said.

"I think it's good news for the people of Leith because there are some people in Leith who have very little and to have even that taken away from them to increase the funds of a very rich organisation goes against the grain."

The Church of Scientology includes John Travolta and Tom Cruise among its followers.

It has a permanent centre on South Bridge called the Hubbard Academy of Personal Independence, where passers-by are invited to enter and take "personality tests".

A council spokeswoman confirmed that the application had been withdrawn by the applicant, and had received 11 objections, from local residents and the Leith Links Community Council.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 23, 2011, 08:36:37 AM
                New Haven forecloses on Church of Scientology property

Published: Monday, August 22, 2011

Special to The Register Citizen

NEW HAVEN — The Church of Scientology on Whalley Avenue pulled building permits to convert a former furniture store to a church in 2004, but lacking any progress, it lost its tax-exempt status and now is fighting a foreclosure action by the city that is trying to recoup taxes it says it is owed.

The church, which has a business office at 909 Whalley Ave., bought the former Hallock’s warehouse and showroom at 949 Whalley Ave. near the corner of Blake Street in 2003.

Adam Joseph, spokesman for the city, said the tax-exempt status was granted for the 2007 grand list on the basis that remodeling to accommodate a place of worship would be performed on an ongoing basis. State statutes allow this designation as long as progress is being made on the renovation.

Joseph said subsequent re-inspections by the assessor’s office “determined construction work was not continuing and exempt status was revoked” with a notice to church officials in January 2009 for the 2008 grand list, which meant taxes on the property were due on July 2009.

The amount of taxes due, according to court records, is $16,702 payable on July 1, 2009 and $44,196 as of July 1, 2010.

He said buildings used for religious purposes “are not typically re-inspected annually; only those in which such construction work is (presumably) progressing.”

Joseph said there are no other churches in the city that failed to complete proposed construction that put their exempt status in jeopardy.

After checking his records, Building Inspector Andy Rizzo said: “I terminated the building permit on Feb. 5, 2009 for lack of any work.”

On Friday, the building permit from 2004 was still attached to the door with construction material visible inside on the floor of the entryway and a second entrance gated shut. There was no one on the site.

Attorney Nicholas Mingione, who is representing the church, in his court filings said the city did not notify his client of the loss of the tax exemption until Feb. 25, 2010 and he accused the assessor and tax collector of “extracting payments by abuse of process.”

“Without warning and reasoning, the city eliminated the exemption despite absolutely no change in use. Notice was not properly given to the church and Superior Court action was the only remedy left since timing for administrative appeal had passed by the time the church was notified,” Mingione said in an e-mail.

Carol Yingling, who identified herself as a minister of the church, deferred all comments to Mingione.

Joseph said representatives of the church were in touch with the assessor’s office reportedly after receiving a tax bill at which time they were asked to provide the city with dated work orders or contractor’s invoices to support their claim that work was continuing.

Assessor William O’Brien Friday said they never presented any such documentation. He said while the church, whose headquarters is in California, may have missed appearing before the February Board of Assessment Appeals meeting, they could have sent their lawyer or filed another request for exempt property, the deadline for which is September.

O’Brien said David Ambrose, the acting assessor before he came into office, was the first to find construction progress was not being made at the site. He said the exemption subsequently was removed after O’Brien’s staff followed up. He said a loophole in the law does not allow the city to retroactively seek taxes if the conditions for the exemption were not being met.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on September 02, 2011, 04:45:40 PM
            THE GUARDIAN    Music section         

                Fixers: 'I feel incredibly creative right now'

Oxford band Fixers write so many songs they used to give them away for free. Now they're having to slow down a bit

Fixers' last single, the EP Here Comes 2001 So Let's All Head for the Sun, fit more squarely into the Beach Boys template (and when it was released in the spring, Goldstein was already worrying about it being "very stale"). It was also a sign of Fixers' restlessness – it was the culmination of a fascination with UFO religions and cults. "I always find it interesting when something's really reviled and people don't like it but they don't really know anything about it," Goldstein says. I always think: why is it so bad?" He picks up the example of Scientology. "I know why it's so bad, because I went and found out about it," he says. "We went to the Church of Scientology in Liverpool Street and it was pretty scary. We got put on an E-Meter – it's like a cheap, plastic lie detector. They didn't seem to work on me. I actually felt for the Scientology lady – she was falling flat on her face."

Post by: Ididntcomeback on September 03, 2011, 12:58:49 PM
          Sexy Scientology Stress Test Takedown by Angry Gay Pope

Aug 31, 2011  Hollywood boulevard

Post by: Ididntcomeback on September 07, 2011, 05:15:31 PM
                                Reports from Marty's Hamburg visit

    The Hamburg anons have established already that they are going to deliver full coverage of the event going down that includes Marty. I have been asked to make a report for you based on their initial reports in German about what happened at Hamburg Fuhlsbüttel Airport.

    As was to be expected, OSA was there in full force. Anons arrived at around 10:00am to watch the corridors for suspicious activity. Around 10:30 Ms Caberta arrived to collect Mr. Rathbun. At that time, there were already several suspicious persons around trying to look inconspicuous but failing hard at this. Anons would film and photograph the events going down, they are planning to release extensive dox and pictures on this. Here is a list of persons that drew the attention of the Hamburg anons (list not complete though), quoted from some anon on WWP:

        Woman in blue jacket, (she tried to film through cell phone cam)
        Old man disguised as flight guest giving orders to her
        iphone hipster trying to film unsuspiciously
        his "girlfriend" trying to film with her cell phone over a railing.

    Mr. Rathbun's plane arrived nearly on schedule, he exited the restricted area around 12:00pm. Ms. Caberta greeted him with a small bundle of flowers and they went off to a Taxi, relatively undisturbed, acknowledging the efforts of Anons with a courteous nod. Graham Berry came up and asked whether they were anons.

    Obviously, we hoped for Scilons to pull a stunt like with Caberta in Clearwater but that wasn't happening so Hamburg anons had to entertain themselves in other ways.
    Two anons stood to the left and right of a woman in blue jacket and were wondering quite loudly:
    "HMMM.... OSA must be somewhere around here!"
    which she answered by turning around with a pokerface and walking away at which point the anons laughed at her. She tried to feign interest in a booth with children clothing and continued to film from further away.
    Two anons stood behind her and did the same as she did. She got more nervous every second and kept tapping her foot on the floor. They laughed even more.
    When they went to a café bar she followed them from a distance of a couple of meters and filmed them from a distance where she will recognize absolutely nothing from her shitty cell phone.

    Another anon with better foto equipment joined in on the fun (they were always close by but separate by a small distance, so as to look at who we can recognize to be OSA).

    Anyways, the woman in blue jacket went to some jewellery store, stood inside with one foot, lurking out with the other foot and stands behind a sign with her face covered half by the sign. That was urban camouflage with her blue jacket, one would have almost missed her standing behind that GREY sign[/irony]

    Anons pointed their fingers at her and laughed loudly, at which point she ragequitted. She held out longest. The others vanished before her after anons combatted them with stare-tech and standing/sitting next to them.

Photo of woman in blue...

Post by: Ididntcomeback on September 09, 2011, 05:48:21 PM
                      Greetings from Germany

Wednesday, 07 September 2011 13:36

Blog item for today:

In the late 1990s, I remember David Miscavige complaining bitterly about Europeans, especially German Scientologists. No country was more vocal against the Church than the German media and government. Miscavige knew exactly what was wrong.

"The German Scientologists are PTS" he belowed -- meaning they were potential trouble sources because they were connected to suppressive (toxic) people. Truer words were never spoken. The only problem was the "suppressives" were NOT Ursula Caberta and the "German government" -- no, no. The suppressives were in the Church, namely David Miscavige and his supporters -- the VERY people who for decades spread carefully worked out propaganda that modern Germany, and particularly the efforts of Urusula Caberta were a throwback to 1930s Germany. And that was and still is utterly false.

The truth is Ursula Caberta was a decent, hardworking, intelligent and caring member of the Hamburg government who started receiving requests from people who were being abused by David Miscavige's corrupt empire. She looked under the rock and immediatly came under heavy attack from the Church.

Sound familiar?

Anyone who looks under the rock is falsely villified.

For some time, Marty has been interested in setting the record straight and naturally he isn't the only one. The Church's black propaganda campaign has been so thorough and so relentless, involving numerous visits to the US State Department by the "likes" of Tom Cruise, John Travolta and other carefully cultivated (by Miscavige) "celebrity Scientology tools" many Scientologists in Germany actually came to believe the "government" is against them. It's a lie.

The government, like any group of law-abiding citizens of the world, are against criminality, abuse, torture, extortion, human trafficking, and the destruction of families -- the stock in trade of David Miscavige. It has been the Church of Scientology, all along, that emanated the untruth that the actions of the Church were a reflection of Scientology philosophy. And why has Miscavige made that his central them? He's covering his ass. Blaming his actions on LRH. Blaming his criminality on the philosophy. And in the process making Scientology the philosophical pariah of the century.

I am here in Germany. I took the week off and came here on my own dime (not cheap) to support what Marty and Mosey are doing and to help rally Independent Scientologists to pin the tail on the actual donkey for once instead of pinning it on those who have actually been trying to stop the abuses of the Church and protecting lives and property.

A handful of rag-tag Scientologists from the Church were quietly protesting outside dressed up like the Inquisition. How ironic, since it is they, not us, who have blood on their hands.

Tonight, the television airwaves in Germany are LOADED with reports, video excerpts and news items from Ursula and Marty's lengthy press conference today, held at Hamburg's equivalent of the Ministry of the Interior. And there is more to come.

Get it: the German government supports our mission to expose the crimes of the Church and stop the insanity.

That's a big deal. It's unprecedented.

If you are an Independent Scientologist helping to decry the abuses and criminality of the CoS, the German government has your back. That sure beats what we have in the US State Department where key government politicos have allowed themselves to be covertly bought off by a few subverted movie actors.

There are many more examples around the world of what has happened in Germany. Broadly speaking, wherever you hear the Church of Scientology complaining BITTERLY of "religious discrimination" and "religious bigotry" -- the reverse is true.

The bigots are all in the Church.

LRH said the mission of Scientology was to create a "safe environment." The Church instead specializes in creating a threatening environment. They drive families apart. They crush every penny out of their hapless supporters. And they spread the worst lies imaginable about anyone with the courage, integrity and moral fibre to help expose the truth. And when I say those last words, think of the German people. Hey, last week I heard the Church of Scientology created a new hate site just for me. Of course that probably had nothing to do with me dropping everything and coming to Hamburg on Tuesday in support of Marty, Mosey, the Independent Scientologists of Europe, and our new friends -- the German government.

So take a closer look. Take a closer look at anyone who the CoS says is an enemy.

The worse the CoS says people are, the better they might really be.

Steve Hall

Post by: Ididntcomeback on September 09, 2011, 05:49:22 PM


All Independent Scientologists are invited to attend a historic meeting in Hamburg, Germany this Saturday, September 10, 2011 at 10:30 AM at the Department of the Interior of the government of Germany. Details are here...

Reconciliation in Hamburg PDF | Print | E-mail Thursday, 08 September 2011 14:12

For decades Miscavige and the Office of Special Affairs has been running an extensive fifth column campaign to create chaos for Scientologists, Europen government officials, and key nations as a whole including Germany, France, Belgium and the UK. The more trouble, the more cash David Miscavige receives in the form of donations plundered from duped Scientologists into the IAS's "war chest." Without a war, there can't be a war chest. That's why the Church IS at war.

It is a corporate conspiracy in the name of profit against multiple governments and I hinted at some of the details yesterday involving Miscavige's recruiting of film actors like Tom Cruise, John Travolta and Ann Archer (Tommy Davis's mother) to pressure the US State Department to disrupt government operations. The details are truly rotten and that is one of the topics to be revealed by Marty on Saturday to any Independent Scientologist who wishes to attend our free meeting in Hamburg. Helping to organize THIS meeting is why I bought a plane ticket to Germany. Marty could have done it himself, but he's been a bit busy, so I volunteered.

Speaking of Marty, today he was on the Markus Lanz talk show with Ursula Caberta. The show is to air immediately and you can see it on Markus Lanz's website. Together they reveal some blistering facts about Miscavige's Stasi-like Office of Special Affairs and David Miscavige.

-- Hey, tip to Mr Cruise and OSA: the Hammer of Thor is coming down. Don't be under it. You guys are on the wrong side of history. Just like the Stasi. Either wake up and get out now (with evidence against Miscavige) or soon it will be too late.

So the meeting will be at the Department of the Interior, 4 Johanniswall by Altstadterstrasse in the heart of Hamburg. Bring your passport -- you will need it to get into the building. If you arrive on time, you will also get to meet Ursula Caberta -- a genuine leader of enormous insight who since years has suffered every dirty trick in the OSA play book. What Marty is experiencing now, she also endured.

And as for the numerous CoS hate websites attempting to malign and stigmatize Ursula Caberta as a "religious bigot" -- FAIL. She never was. And now that she's proving the point, the CoS websites suddenly took down that lie and replaced it with a new one. Just hours ago! Miscavige operates on the insane idea if he repeats a line (even though it's false) enough times for enough years, one day everyone will believe it. I'm not making this up. It is actually what he professes, and is why OSA tells such blatant lies about Marty, Mike, Ursula, me, Amy, Marc, and the hundreds of others who stand by truth.

European Scientologists need to know what has really been going on so they can jetisson the false data. For example, OSA operatives and IAS registrars have been telling people since the 1990s that the German government "kicks Scientology children out of public school." it is a lie. The German government doesn't care what people believe and they want kids to go to school. Like anyone else, they only care what people DO. And when repressive individuals start discriminating against others, forcing them to give money, disconnect from parents or change religions, the government's job is to do something when people are being harmed. In response, the Church made up lies.

For years WISE pressured Scientologists to use confidential employee records to recruit people into Scientology. It is illegal to do that. Victims turned to the government for help. And when the government told the Church to knock it off, the Church spread a lie that "if the government finds out you are a Scientologist you will lose your job." No, breaking the law and harming people is what gets people fired because that's just how life works. The only people who ever lost their jobs were fired because they comitted crimes that harmed people. It was NOT "religious persecution."

To prove the point, the govenment is hosting and providing their own facilities for a meeting of Independent Scientologists.

The government has no problem with us at all. On the contrary, they respect what we are doing and they know the Church is retaliating against us in various ways, especially if your name is Marty or Mosey Rathbun. Yet this "open arms" approach is nothing new. This has been their attitude all along. It was only the CoS that claimed the government was all bad. And it wasn't just the government that OSA lied about. They also claimed problems in Germany traced back to the Lutheran Church. Hogwash!

What David Miscavige does best: make powerful enemies with long memories.

I also said yesterday the Church had blood on their hands. And Hamburg attendees will learn more on that score too, including tragic deaths by suicide of leading European Scientologists, forced into such heavy debt by the CoS there seemed no other way out than to abandon life itself.

So, if you can arrange to be at this historic meeting, please be there. In fact this meeting symbolizes a mending of relations and a healing from the damage done to a very important part of the world by the most toxic individual I have ever known.

Marty said his purpose in coming to Europe was to "clean up the mess" made by David Miscavige.


Post by: Ididntcomeback on September 10, 2011, 05:44:31 PM
                             The Confusion Technique in Scientology

Scientology is one of the most criticized and mysterious religions of our time.

Its controversial stance on psychology has drawn widespread skepticism, but other critics say the group’s supposed use of “confusion tactics” makes the religion all the more pervasive throughout many communities.

Arizona psychiatrist Milton Erickson, who said confusion was a standard in almost all of his techniques, introduced the confusion technique into mainstream hypnotic theory.

Milton wrote that this technique would induce deep trances and was best employed with highly intelligent subjects – regardless of whether they were willing or unwilling to enter hypnosis.

To make it through the stages of Scientology’s path to “enlightenment”, it’s going to cost you in more ways than one.
The Process of Confusion and Hypnosis

It starts with a reading of L. Ron Hubbard’s best seller “Dianetics”, and before you know it, you’ve thrown down some serious cash for audio lessons and books – all part of scientology’s “purification programs.”

Scientology today denies the use of hypnosis or the confusion technique on its supporters, and there is really no proof to show that religious leaders actually do attempt to hypnotize members.

However, critics point to L. Ron Hubbard’s own apparent use of authoritative hypnosis, which is basically the same tactic as using confusion, involving redefining common words as well as inventing new words.
Redefining Words in Ambiguous Ways

Critics say Hubbard used the confusion technique by using terms such as “left and right” in ambiguous ways. Using the confusion technique, subjects would grasp for the term “center,” which Hubbard called “the boss.”

Hubbard would then reportedly use the “center” as his basis to induce his suggestions, as the center became the only option available to escape the confusing and ambiguous notions introduced along the way.

The allegations of hypnosis continue today, and opponents of Scientology claim the group still regularly practices the confusion technique, although the evidence of this seems to be hobbled together in various papers and as part of Scientology’s vaious interrogation techniques.

Whether you believe Scientology is indeed hypnotizing its members or not, it is important to continue questioning any religious institution with so much power, and often also at the receiving end of extensive cash flow and tax breaks.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on September 13, 2011, 12:08:01 AM
  Question.....Bryan Wilson is the expert on religions that they quote to prove they are a religion and that they worship God and crap like that. Does anyone know the background to this? He apparently witnessed Scientology sertvices which I am sure will have been staged expecially for him. I need details for this rates relief thingy.

 Answer.....      Jacqueline Kevanar, was the Sea Org Scientologist who was the In Charge on the project to secure the legitimizing treatises from the religion scholars, and she told me of going to Oxford, meeting Wilson, interacting and getting the product of the treatise.

It was a stretched out project, and scholars around EU and a few in the US were all gotten to give their views on whether Scientology was a religion based on the LRH basic books. NOT given to Wilson was the Hubbard upper level administrative writings.

Based on just the Hubbard info in his basic Scientology books, and then with the tours, like you said, the chaperoned and orchestrated tours, WAY more carefully planned and orchestrated, personnel that he saw were all drilled what they'd be doing when the scholars got their tours, but based solely on the books, if you read that Wilson treatise, he says in the beginning the materials he bases his judgement mainly on. And also his being shown what went on in the basic meat and potatoes Scientology org. Namely the auditing, and the training. Wilson said one thing that stuck with me, as I was in the Sea Org, at Author Services Inc, reading carefully just for my own Scientologist validation, being excited that scholars gave us the stamp of approval, what Wilson said that auditing (he fails entirely to equate it with talk therapy) he praises and says what is remarkable about the minister role in Scientology is that it is so individualized. He fails to say that it's a one on one therapy, with really a therapist and a patient, and that the upper levels of Scientology are high volume dead space alien souls exorcism. He didn't of course see the confidential matierals.

Gordon Melton, privatley, I've been in email touch and met him once, and had one or two conversations with Melton since I've left Scientology, and done all my writings online now, I learned several things. In Gordon's case, there's a link to this, sorry, but Gordan admits he had to sign a legal doc promise with Scientology NOT to tell the esoteric (Xenu and body thetans high volume exorcism stuff) of Scientology. That was in the early 90s alson, and I'm sure it was Jacqueline Kevanar or other OSA staffers who were Melton's liaison's when he agreed to their terms. Gordon since, in private, has said many critical things, and he's mildly been critical of Scientology's excommunication policy in public to the St. Pete Times in one or two occassions when they reported on SCientology in the early 2000s. I've posted on that, as you know, on ARS. As you know I'm practically an apologist for the apologist scholars, and you know my goal was simply to wise them up, and get them UP to telling the Xenu and body thetans exorcism stuff, and finally, in Bromley's chapter 4 of the "Scientology" Oxford Univ Press anthology, of 2009, Bromley does tell about Xenu and body thetans. And there's a sort of lame but at least it is a beginning, chapter in the end of this anthology about the Xenu "myth" (even though Scientologists at the OT 3 level and above do NOT consider Xenu a myth, and the proof is the thankfully leaked Class 8 lecture where LRH screams that the info about OT 3 is NOT just his opinions, but that info is FACT, you can hear him screaming the word "FACT"). As you know.

Back to Wilson, it was Jacqueline.

I've several times posted urging her to come go public and I've told the apologist scholars about "our" tactics to secure their treatises. But realize, that even with all of Scientology's/Hubbard's overtly money grubbing and pragmatic business and totalitarian offensiveness, because the Scientologists believe in and are themselves genuinely thinking they ARE improving their souls, and delving into their past lives, learning on the upper levels that we all have suffered this supposedly MASSIVE 4th dynamic engram and are infested with amnesia trance brain dead souls with implants to end all implants in ALL of our soul minds, realize for all Scientology's craziness, and their fake Sunday services which are for show, that STILL the soul therapy and soul exorcism, with the end goal of this "Native State" superpowerful Operating thetan status again, that the scholars see the gnostic mystical tradition in Scientology, and that opens the door to the religion label being inevitably valid.

For all Scientology's offensive irreligious crap, it still in the minds of the followers who accept the measley gains that they get, no super soul phenomenon --- they settle for the normal coincidences of life as proof their soul improvement therapy/exorcism is working --- this is why it gets the pass on being a religion.

I've been emailing the apologist scholars for years, news links and keeping them abreast.

and I sent them ALL the OSA Handling chuck beatty program, so they know the latest leak of the dastardly stuff STILL being done by the Office of Special Affairs.

Back to the OSA projects to win scholar's positive treatises, also, I firsthand talked with an LA RPF member, Rolf Glatt, who in the late 1990s or it might have been in the earlier part of the year 2000, Rolf and other LA RPFers were part of a guided tour, Rolf told me, for scholars, and particularly a German religious scholar, all for the parade and prove the RPF is NOT a slave camp countering program, since in the German press we know how the RPF was correctly being depicted.

I came from the Int RPF to the PAC (LA) RPF in Nov 2000, and all the bunks had matching bedspreads, we ate normal good food, got over 7 hours sleep, and it was not like the bad old days of the RPF, but still our mail was looked at and our phone calls to family had to be listened in on for fear we'd plot escaping. Even though legally on paper you today (this is since 1997 when the 'new" RPF scriptures/rules were issued) you sign a legal document (wish we had one but I don't think the RPF legal doc is in the public domain) but it has the clauses saying you are joining the RPF program of your own free will, and it says that you understand that you have the right to end the program at any time with the consequences that you understand that means ending your Sea Org career. So the loopholes WERE inserted in the legal docs that all RPFers have been signing, BEFORE starting the RPF ever since.

Back to the scholars, your scholars tours question, of course Rolf was kind of a model German Sea Org member himself, well spoken, and not your typical long term downtrodden been/there-dumped/on jaded long term Sea Org member who end up on the RPF, so Rolf was a good showcase RPFer for this scholarly tour by this German lady scholar at least.

I've hoped that OTHERs who played the model roles for the scholars would come out and tell what they did.

This is what I know.

Chuck Beatty

PS Angry Gay Pope and Doug Owen BOTH have taken photos of Rolf Glatt. This is a shot by Doug Owen, 2008 or 2009 of Rolf. Glatt did the RPF show and tell in 2000.jpg

Post by: Ididntcomeback on September 16, 2011, 05:41:06 PM
                                 Scene Cleared at Scientology HQ

                                     Washington USA

Authorities found nothing hazardous after evacuating the Scientology headquarters in northwest Thursday afternoon.

The building in the 1400 block of 16th Street NW was evacuated because of a suspicious package.

D.C. police and D.C. Fire and EMS investigated.

Stay with News4 and for updates as they become available.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on September 21, 2011, 08:56:34 AM
                    Germany Debrief; Shout Out to Anonymous and Graham Berry

Post by: Ididntcomeback on September 23, 2011, 05:58:50 PM
         Review: ‘Dolphin Tale’ Is A Thoroughly Average, Squeaky Clean Family Movie

In the new, squeaky clean family film “Dolphin Tale,” based on the true story of an injured dolphin that is outfitted with a cutting edge prosthetic tail, there are enough civic and spiritual virtues levelled at you to fill several Sunday school classes. The importance of family, friendship, never leaving someone behind, accepting those with disabilities, respecting the ocean, and studying hard in class, are reiterated repeatedly, so much so that you suspect this may be a sly “Christian values” movie dressed up like an eco-friendly Saturday afternoon romp (it does come from the same people who made “The Blind Side” so keep that in mind). But the movie is set in Clearwater, Florida, which many will recognize as the cuddly epicenter of Scientology in the United States, and scanning the background of any particular scene you can see the monolithic Scientology center (the Flag Building, as large as a city block) looming against the pale blue sky.

What if, instead of these Godly tenets, the movie imparted the importance of excommunicating toxic Thetans from your body, and at some point instead of a hotel owner steamrolling the precious (but underfunded) aquarium, the dolphin and his pals (including Harry Connick Jr. as the beleaguered scientific head of the aquarium) faced off against a more cosmic threat – that of space overlord Xenu! (Then the 3D would really be used for something special.) Sadly, none of this occurs, and Scientology is left off the table (although a couple of the extras in the big rally-to-save-the-aquarium scene did look a little too squeaky clean). Instead, what we’re left with is a perfectly acceptable, if sometimes trite and way too overlong (118 minutes when all is said and done) family adventure about overcoming disabilities and believing in yourself. Also, there’s a dolphin with a prosthetic tail that, amazingly, is played by the actual dolphin the story is based on.......

Post by: Ididntcomeback on September 24, 2011, 11:40:37 AM
                The Fogies of ‘South Park’

Interview with Matt Stone and Trey Parker (Creators of South Park.

.......Did you ever find out if Tom Cruise was responsible for pressuring Viacom not to rebroadcast the “Trapped in the Closet” episode of “South Park,” the one about Scientology? He has vehemently denied it.
Parker: We never really investigated it further.

Stone: It was Tom Cruise! Who else would it be? It was Tom Cruise! And it was just stupid of Tom Cruise and Viacom, because it made more people see the episode.

Mormons have received gentler treatment from you than Scientologists. Do you feel as if one religion is inherently more absurd than the other?

Stone: Look at the reaction the Mormon Church had to this musical, and look at the reactions of Scientology to our episode. That’s all you need to know. One is a serious religion that people honestly believe in and tries to make people better, and one is something else....

Post by: Ididntcomeback on September 28, 2011, 07:50:18 PM
          Zorana Lebedik, Macedonian Scientologist killed in Clearwater, Florida


Post by: Ididntcomeback on September 28, 2011, 08:26:18 PM
        Scientology Loses Control - Quebec City Protest - - September 25, 2011


    September 25, 2011 - Scientology Quebec City, Canada - Anonymous Protest.

    Scientology-Narconon exploiting children in the streets and Quebec Schools - - with added footage - - hidden camera investigation of Narconon Trois-Rivieres.

    The President of Scientology Canada, Yvette Shank tries to intervene in scuffle as scientologist attempts to shut down photographer - - but to no avail. Yvette is also the director of OSA Canada, (scientology's Intelligence Unit). Police were called, but no charges laid.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on September 29, 2011, 02:36:06 PM

What's it like to go to an elite Scientology-affiliated boarding school?

 Short version: it's like Exeter or Andover except with all those odd-seeming cult of Scientology traditions lingering around. And it probably has a higher than normal rate of alumni who join "Sea Org, a Church of Scientology religious order that has been described by insiders as something approximating human slavery." There's that too. Over the past couple days the iPad only newspaper, The Daily, took an extended look at the school, Delphian, and managed to get administrators, students and alumni to talk. Said one graduate: "I came out of that place barely speaking English. I’d be at home, and I felt so different from everyone in the wog world." It appears "wog" is the term for the outside world. [The Daily - Part I, Part II]

Check Out ‘Scientology High,’ the $42,000-a-Year ‘Real-World Hogwarts’

Here's a promotional video for Delphian School, an expensive ($42,000 a year!) prep school located in rural Oregon. One thing they fail to mention: "A good majority" of its staff consists of Scientologists, and "the structure of the school, its ethical code and its language all reflect the influence and precepts of Scientology."

Post by: Ididntcomeback on September 29, 2011, 07:33:11 PM
                           The Gisborne Herald
Scientology organisation
Thursday, September 29, 2011
Re: Rehab full of false solutions, Sept 28 letter.

The Citizens Commission on Human Rights is an organisation run by the Church of Scientology and just like their other frankly wacky organisations, they and their statements should be taken with a large grain of salt.

The scientific community has long ago recognised that addiction is a neurobiological disorder that fits into the definition of a disease. It has also been recognised that methadone, used correctly, is the most effective treatment method for opiate addicts and has saved millions of lives.


Post by: Ididntcomeback on September 30, 2011, 11:52:42 AM

These movies have been banned … So what are you waiting for? Go watch them!

In honor of Banned Books Week, I thought I’d show some solidarity and feature a cavalcade of movies that were at one time banned in the United States. The usual culprits are responsible here: sex, violence, religion, bearded ladies, conjoined twins, etc.

I could just as well have created another list of movies made from banned books, but this gallery does feature one – a pot-stirrer helmed by no less than Martin Scorcese. And then there’s the highly subjective list of movies I wish were banned … not that I’m encouraging censorship, mind you. It appears you win again “Deuce Bigalow: Male Gigolo”!

Search out these films and make your own decisions, just like you should do with books others have concluded you shouldn’t read. Or, if you’re pressed for time, find the 1966 Francois Truffaut film version of Ray Bradbury’s novel “Fahrenheit 451″ and watch a movie of a book about book burning. Ironically, neither book nor movie is known for being banned. ....

Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 03, 2011, 06:03:01 PM
For those interested in Hubbard`s Naval history...

Alternately one could read Popeye the sailor.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 07, 2011, 11:21:55 AM
            Scientology pays $413,500 in fines to Clearwater    

By STEPHEN THOMPSON | The Tampa Tribune

Published: October 6, 2011

Updated: 04:15 pm

CLEARWATER - Even the Church of Scientology can't fight City Hall.

After a protracted battle over more than $400,000 in fines related to code violations, the church decided to forego another squabble and pay up.

To be exact, the church wrote a check for 413,500, and dropped it off today — the church's deadline — said Clearwater city spokeswoman Joelle Castelli.

The church took 12 years to wrap up work on its spiritual center. The Clearwater code enforcement board said the church didn't get cracking on the building when ordered to.

The church tried to reduce the fine to roughly one tenth of that amount, but the code enforcement board wasn't sympathetic. The church did get a slight reduction from a fine of $451,500 because some of the delays were beyond the church's control.

The church first applied for a building permit in 1999, but the city didn't issue a certificate of occupancy until June.

"Twelve years, seven months and 15 days. … Not very many buildings take that long," Assistant City Attorney Camilo Soto told the board at a hearing in August.

The spiritual headquarters in question is the so-called "Flag Building," or, as it is called on the church's web site, "The Mecca of Scientology." It rises eight stories and has 377,000 square feet of space, covering a city block in downtown Clearwater.

It has towers at the corners and a design consistent with the historic Fort Harrison Hotel, the church's former headquarters, to which the new building is linked by a pedestrian bridge.

Work on the Flag Building started in 2000 but stopped in 2004. Critics said the church was out of money; the church insisted it was doing a redesign to meet changing needs.

After the project sat idle for two years, surrounded by a chain-link fence and construction debris, the city cited the church for letting its permit lapse and for failing to make required landscape improvements.

Fines accrued at $250 a day until June 6, when the city finally issued the certificate of occupancy.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 19, 2011, 08:32:55 PM
Cult lawyer Kendrick Moxon of has called my lawyer today upset that I have put a "countdown" to the end of my restraining order (RO) on my website along with a picture of Anti-Shirtless Lady. He says he wants to extend my three year restraining order because "she doesn't want it to end."

My lawyer said Moxon could either do an ex parte (emergency) action on thursday or he is willing to ask for only a 30 day extension of the RO while we debate it. I said "WHAT? No way!" But my lawyer said "Let him have the 30 days. We will have a chance to form a response. Otherwise we would have barely a day or to to legally react." Eventually I relented but expressed concern that I be able to protest on Sunday, November 27th, at the Hollywood Christmas Parade if it is run this year.

If she is so frightened why didn't Moxon do this six months earlier? Duh, he is so busy he probably needed me to remind him that my RO is about to expire. That means he has to do his typical BS which he knows will fail. He just wants to drag things out. But my lawyer is looking forward to this :)

Graham Berry, my legal rep, summarizes thusly: "You can't extend a restraining order just because she wants to!"

Angry gay Pope

Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 21, 2011, 08:59:56 AM
                      The Real Science behind Scientology

It's not what you think
                                Scientific American

By Michael Shermer  | October 20, 2011

In the 1990s I had the opportunity to dine with the late musician Isaac Hayes​, whose career fortunes had just made a stunning turnabout upward, which he attributed to Scientology. It was a glowing testimonial by a sincere follower of the Church, but is it evidence that Scientology works? Two recently published books argue that there is no science in Scientology, only quasireligious doctrines wrapped in New Age flapdoodle masquerading as science. The Church of Scientology​, by Hugh B. Urban, professor of religious studies at Ohio State University, is the most scholarly treatment of the organization to date, and investigative journalist Janet Reitman’s Inside Scientology is an electrifying read that includes eye-popping and well-documented tales of billion-year con­tracts, aggressive recruitment programs and abuse of staffers.

The problem with testimonials is that they do not constitute evidence in science. As social psychologist Carol Tavris told me, “Every therapy produces enthusiastic testimonials because of the justification-of-effort effect. Anyone who invests time and money and effort in a therapy will say it helped. Scientology might have helped Isaac Hayes, just as psychoanalysis and bungee jumping might have helped others, but that doesn’t mean the intervention was the reason. To know if there is anything special about Scientology, you need to do controlled studies—randomly assigning people to Scientology or a control group (or a different therapy) for the same problem.” To my knowledge, no such study has been conducted. The real science behind Scientology seems to be an understanding of the very human need, as social animals, to be part of a supportive group—and the willingness of people to pay handsomely for it.

If Scientology is not a science, is it even a religion? Well, it does have its own creation myth. Around 75 million years ago Xenu, the ruler of a Galactic Confederation of 76 planets, transported billions of his charges in spaceships similar to DC-8​ jets to a planet called Teegeeack (Earth). There they were placed near volcanoes and killed by exploding hydrogen bombs, after which their “thetans” (souls) remained to inhabit the bodies of future earthlings, causing humans today great spiritual harm and unhappiness that can be remedied through special techniques involving an Electropsychometer (E-meter) in a process called auditing.

Thanks to the Internet, this story—previously revealed only to those who paid many thousands of dollars in courses to reach Operating Thetan Level III (OT III) of Scientology—is now so widely known that it was even featured in a 2005 episode of the animated TV series South Park​. In fact, according to numerous Web postings by ex-Scientologists, documents from court cases involving followers who reached OT III and abundant books and articles by ex-members who heard the story firsthand and corroborate the details, this is Scientology’s Genesis. So did its founder, writer L. Ron Hubbard, just make it all up—as legend has it—to create a religion that was more lucrative than producing science fiction?

Instead of printing the legend as fact, I recently interviewed the acclaimed science-fiction author Harlan Ellison​, who told me he was at the birth of Scientology. At a meeting in New York City of a sci-fi writers’ group called the Hydra Club, Hubbard was complaining to L. Sprague de Camp and the others about writing for a penny a word. “Lester del Rey then said half-jokingly, ‘What you really ought to do is create a religion because it will be tax-free,’ and at that point everyone in the room started chiming in with ideas for this new religion. So the idea was a Gestalt that Ron caught on to and assimilated the details. He then wrote it up as ‘Dianetics: A New Science of the Mind’ and sold it to John W. Campbell, Jr., who published it in Astounding Science Fiction in 1950.”

To be fair, Scientology’s Xenu story is no more scientifically untenable than other faiths’ origin myths. If there is no testable means of determining which creation cosmogony is correct, perhaps they are all astounding science fictions.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 21, 2011, 06:32:54 PM

            Facing Difficulties in Life? Scientology Has an iPad App For That

What every lost and confused soul needs!

Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 22, 2011, 01:01:35 PM
                  Is Scientology Trying to Take Over Self-Publishing?
They have to put all that money somewhere...
By Skip Press, Contributor
October 21, 2011

Scientology is society`s version of cancer. (My comment.) idcb

Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 22, 2011, 01:15:11 PM
          Department of Homeland Security Staffer Pulls Out of Scientology Event

Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 22, 2011, 04:20:17 PM
    For any scientifically minded visitors...

Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 26, 2011, 09:07:06 AM
               A brief breakdown of the 8 OT levels?

    Is there a source where I can get a short breakdown of what each "OT" level is supposed to achieve/reveal for the student, from I right up to VIII? Say around 3/4 paragraphs per level? I know most levels are available from places such as wikileaks but some of it is pretty heavy reading for the uninitiated!

              Cannon fodder

 I'm not going to write 3 or 4 paras for each, but here goes, as I understand it:

New OT1: Used to be an objective-type process, done in a few hours. Since about 1984 it has been a de-PTSing level, taking about 10-15 hours of solo auditing problems processes on people and things that the person feels have been antagonistic to him/her. It is usually (or was when I was involved with it 20 years ago) pretty effective and well-received.

OT2: Addresses a large number of dichotomies on a person's case, pairs like create/destroy. The full number is thousands, but it is not necessary to do them all to be complete on the level. Hubbard says these dichotomies were implanted in the person 75 million years ago. Tends to take dozens of hours of solo auditing. Some benefits attainable from it.

OT3: The 75 million year ago incident, the biggie. Xenu. Body thetans. Google it. It's all over the place. Despite the idiocy of Hubbard's theory, there would seem to be something genuine underlying the procedure which is addressed. Tends to be longer than OT2, maybe a hundred hours, sometimes less and sometimes more.

New OT4: OT Drug RD. Audited by another, usually far less than an intensive (12.5 hours). Addresses "body thetans" left over from OT3, related to drug incidents, that the guy didn't spot on OT3.

New OT5: Audited NOTs. More supposed BTs, that hadn't been spotted earlier. Takes about 50 hours, more or less. Many people get gains from this, so again, it seems something valid is being addressed, even if the theory is not all correct.

New OT6: Mostly the same as the Solo Auditor Course Part 1 - identical except it doesn't say Solo Part 1 on the checksheet - with a little bit of theory about Solo NOTs and getting going on solo auditing on Solo NOTs at Flag.

New OT7: Solo NOTs, auditing at home. For years. And years. And years. Again, some of it seems valuable, but that seems to be the early part of the auditing and then it drags on, seemingly an overrun. It's a fabulous cash cow for the CofS, with every 6 months the person needs to go to Flag for a "6 month check" where they get a very out-tech sec-check, which tends to take, what a couple of intensives? The EP is something like can't find any more BTs (which is also the EP of OT3!!!), but whereas on OT3 it is more or less by attest on this one it is after another 3-4 intensives of sec-check and other checks to make sure there REALLY is no way they can screw any more money out of you on the level.

New OT8: The solo auditor addresses his past auditing and is evaluated for and told that next to none of the past identities he has encountered in his auditing were really him, thereby invalidating pretty much all the auditing he ever had prior to the OT levels, and those lower levels were where he got most of his gains anyway! The EP is knowing who he wasn't, so he can now find out who he is. Except they haven't released that level yet, so sorry, your stable datum got shaken without you being allowed to put a new one in its place.

And it only took $350,000 and twenty years and a hell of a lot of heartache.

There, happy?


Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 27, 2011, 04:14:18 PM
                                    The CCHR may be a fraud
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Harold Mandel
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October 26, 2011

I have been investigating the Citizens Commission on Human Rights for years with feelings this organization could be a fraud because its founder, Dr Thomas Szasz, is a psychiatrist and a member of the American Psychiatric Association. These investigations of mine were also set off by an inappropriate e-mail which I received from Steve Wagner, the Director of Litigations with the Citizens Commission on Human Rights, years ago with no appropriate follow-up even as I have been hit with snowballing and life threatening human rights abuses. This has manifested Mr Wagner must be a corrupt and sadistic lawyer who has been using the CCHR as a front to sponsor the very same type of brutal psychiatric human rights abuses the CCHR claims it is fighting.
Mr Wagner intentionally did not pursue any proper questioning of the issues which I raised about a brutal psychiatric abuse case from Texas in 1988 which I was victimized by and ongoing associated brutal mental health care human rights abuses by the United States Department of Justice. In the events leading up to and in the aftermath of "The Texas Torture Case" a clearly cruel and reactionary U.S. government along with the criminally insane American psychiatrists and other sadistic doctors they work with have been moving to crush my humanistic natural mental health care reform initiatives.

Mr Wagner has since than refused to proceed any further with the CCHRs investigations of this case as requested by me and rudely commented there would be no further communications regarding this matter. Mr Wagner claimed that I did not understand what the CCHR does. Well, the CCHR claims on its Website that it investigates and exposes psychiatric human rights abuses. The CCHR also claims it is an activist group which seeks legal remedies and legal reforms to deal with psychiatric human rights abuses. Mr Wagner refused to pursue any of these avenues to deal with the brutal psychiatric human rights abuses which I have been targeted by in the events leading up to and in the aftermath of "The Texas Torture Case".
In "The Texas Torture Case" I was conned into visiting Texas with false promises of discussions regarding my professional interests. When I arrived in Texas I was brutally kidnapped, beaten, drugged, enslaved and tortured by diabolically insane professional enemies who have clearly wanted my mental health care reform initiatives crushed. I was intentionally misdiagnosed with bipolar disorder by the sadistic psychiatrist, Dr Pearlman, and his likewise sadistic associate, Dr Edeiken, a radiologist. I was than legally stigmatized with suffering from this disorder in a swift, fixed civil court proceeding with no sworn in testimony and no jury before the ignorant southern bigot judge, Scanlon, who had a close personal and professional relationship with Dr Pearlman and Dr Edeiken for years. I was targeted with a court order for 90 days of outpatient treatment in what has become for me the alien and hostile state of Texas.
All along all independent, qualified medical and legal counsel aside from my background credentials as a legally licensed New York State physician who graduated from Dickinson College in Carlisle, Pennsylvania with the honors of summa cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa has confirmed that I do not and I have never suffered from bipolar disorder or any other mental illness. Yet, over 20 years since being victimized by this brutal psychiatric abuse case I face daily harassment from the United States Department of Justice coupled with life threatening blacklisting of most of my vital professional and business interests. My name and reputation have been turned into trash in my own country by this case and I never actually did anything or planned to do anything illegal. And as implied I have never suffered from any of the symptoms of bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, or any of the mental illnesses as defined by the psychiatrists.
Mr Wagner appears to have been working alongside the very same corrupt and brutal people who have been responsible for masterminding this psychiatric human rights abuse case and other psychiatric human rights abuse cases in the United States. This unfortunately makes it clear that Dr Thomas Szasz, the elderly founder of the CCHR, may have been a fraud over the course of his entire career who has used the CCHR as a vehicle to further his own personal wealth and fame. Dr Szasz’s primary interest all along appears to have not been in the health and welfare of psychiatric abuse victims as he has claimed.
The bottom line is Dr Szasz may be just another dangerous psychiatrist who has come up with a clever gimmick to earn a lot of money like other pop psychiatrists such as Dr Beck at the University of Pennsylvania and pop psychologists such as Dr Goleman often do.They always claim they are doing something unique for their patients with such creations as cognitive therapy and a supposed search for emotional intelligence and yet the bottom line is they always catastrophically ruin the careers and lives of their patients with their own enforced stigmatization and associated human rights abuses.
This is a shocking finding for the people of the United States and their friends internationally as brutal mental health care human rights abuses continue daily as sponsored by their own government and all of the like minded diabolically insane psychiatrists while the wealthy members of the CCHR enjoy extravagant dinner parties together while aimlessly discussing the issue and not doing much of anything worthwhile which is affirmative for people victimized by mental health care human rights abuses as they raise a lot of money for themselves while the victims of psychiatric abuses continue to suffer and starve to death on the fringes of society.
The CCHR clearly may be a propaganda tool which is being used by Dr Szasz, who served in the U.S. Navy earlier in his life, and the CCHR members to make foreign nationals and American citizens believe the United States does not tolerate criminal mental health care human rights abuses when in fact this clearly is not the case. To the contrary, the government of the United States along with apparent support from Dr Szasz and the CCHR clearly use brutal mental health care human rights abuses as a vehicle to crush the minds and freedoms of sane social activists, poor people, and others in the country just as occurs in many foreign countries.
Dr Szasz is as an aside a member of the elitist and dangerous American Psychiatric Association. And Dr Thomas Szasz is a Professor Emeritus of Psychiatry at the State University of New York, Syracuse who has also ignored my requests for assistance to obtain a residency training position in psychiatry at the State University of New York. The entire Department of Psychiatry in Syracuse has also rudely ignored this interest. I had stated that as a New York state licensed physician who obtained honors in my major, psychology, in college, and in my required work in psychiatry in medical school, I was considering following in the foot steps of Dr Thomas Szasz.
It is therefore worth questioning why Dr Szasz as a psychiatrist himself and other psychiatrists are allowed to critically write and say whatever they want to about psychiatry without being labeled as mentally ill by their colleagues while independent victims and observers of mental health care human rights abuses such as myself are often intentionally mislabeled as being mentally ill for reporting on these problems in similar manners. The American Psychiatric Association appears to work with Dr Szasz to insist American psychiatry is a liberal discipline which respects such freedoms when in fact such freedoms are actually only respected for the psychiatrists themselves.
My previous desire to become a psychiatrist has been blacklisted by all of the American psychiatrists even though I was an honor student in psychology in college and in psychiatry in medical school. Clearly I spoke up too early in my career about problems in American psychiatry for good taste and now I am deeply sorry I ever looked into the clearly corrupt and brutal discipline of American psychiatry which has set a dangerous double standard in dealing with its own diabolically insane psychiatrists.
Furthermore, when I was interested in becoming a psychiatrist I did not realize I was getting involved with lunatics who intentionally create severe pain and disability in people for large profits while lying to the public about this. My interest in mental health care has always been to search for manners in which to humanely assist people in maintaining and achieving good mental health and in doing well in their personal lives, at school, and at work. And so this all implies "The Texas Torture Case" has become one of the most brutal and bizarre psychiatric human rights abuse cases and cover-ups in American history. An online frequently revised synopsis of "The Texas Torture Case" can be found at "The Texas Torture Case".
Mandel News Service

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Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 01, 2011, 02:55:06 PM
Scientology: World's most expensive ghost story.


    Today being Halloween, maybe it's a good time to say what I have been thinking for a long time.

    Scientology is simply a ghost story.

    Well, to give proper credit, it's the World's Most Expensive Ghost Story!

    $500,000 for the full story.

    When Hubbard begin this story, the First Draft didn't even mention ghosts, but instead tried to scare everyone with engrams. They were a little scary but people lost interest.

    Now, Ron had quite a bit of experience writing ghost stories and learned much from both his successes as a pulp fiction writer and his monumental failures. Back before Dianetics he wrote a terror-filled-tale called Excalibur. And he claimed that people leaped out of skyscrapers to their death because it was super-scary!

    The amazing story behind Excalibur was revealed by Arthur J. Cox in the July, 1952, issue of Science-Fiction Advertiser, a magazine published by science-fantasy fans in Glendale, California. In 1948, Hubbard told the California fans that during an operation performed on him for injuries received while in the Navy, he was actually dead for eight minutes. As Cox tells it, "Hubbard realized that while he was dead, he had received a tremendous inspiration, a great Message which he must impart to others. He sat at his typewriter for six days and nights and nothing came out -- then, Excalibur emerged. Excalibur contains the basic metaphysical secrets of the universe. He sent it around to some publishers; they all hastily rejected it.... He locked it away in a bank vault. But then, later, he informed us that he would try publishing a 'diluted' version of it.... Dianetics, I was recently told by a friend of Hubbard's, is based upon one chapter of Excalibur."

    On Hubbard's advertising sheets, the blurb for Excalibur is worth quoting. "Mr. Hubbard wrote this work in 1938. When four of the first fifteen people who read it went insane, Mr. Hubbard withdrew it and placed it in a vault where it remained until now. Copies to selected readers only and then on signature. Released only on sworn statement not to permit other readers to read it. Contains data not to be released during Mr. Hubbard's stay on earth. The complete fast formula of clearing. The secret not even Dianetics disclosed. (WIKI)

    So, after Dianetics Ron the Writer needed to write something much scarier and so he came up with the the whopper of Scientology and Operating Thetans. That was pretty cool but people kept losing interest until he finally re-wrote the story and threw in some actual GHOSTS!

    Body Thetans!

    That's when things really took off (ca 1967) and for the past 41 years the Xenu Ghost Story has been the centerpiece of Scientology's fabled bridge to total freedom.

    There is but one story in Scientology that stood the test of time and that is the "You is haunted!" story whose first chapter is called OT III.

    If you take away the ghosts, there is nothing left of Scientology except a few deluded people talking about Clear. Hubbard tried to make Scientology work from 1950 to 1967 with an incalculable number of new techniques "guaranteed to deliver a real Clear for the first time!" He couldn't find anything that worked in those 17 years and, ever the showman, he knew that his audience was grumbling and leaving the theater. So, he stopped trying to sell Clear and started to sell Ghosts.

    Secret ghosts that nobody was allowed to talk about.

    Secret ghosts that nobody could see.

    Secret ghosts that could only be exorcised with the secret OT tech.

    Well, eventually the super-secret ghost story hit the internet and wasn't so secret any more.

    Scientology tried so hard to turn back time and hide the secret, but it was impossible.

    Remember, no ghost story = nobody scared.

    Nobody scared = nobody pays for Scientology.

    Nobody pays = end of Scientology.

    So what does Scientology do to solve the fact that it doesn't have any scary ghost stories? It makes ITSELF scary by fair gaming and terrorizing people. Sure it scared a few folks at first.

    But even that has worn thin. How many times can you jump out and yell "Boo!" before people yawn or laugh at you?

    HELPFUL TIP TO SCIENTOLOGY: People are laughing at you. You are not scary any more. Go away.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 09, 2011, 07:45:19 AM
Tuesday, November 8, 2011
L. Ron Hubbard's Infamous Forgery on Soviet Brainwashing
by Stephen J. Gertz

This notorious forgery, "A Synthesis of the Russian Text Book on Psychopolitics," originally published in 1955 and falsely attributed to Lavrentii Beria, the Chief of Stalin’s Secret Police, was actually written by science-fiction novelist and Scientology founder, in 1953, L. Ron Hubbard (1911-1986), who had a flair for creating pure fantasy worlds, including a fantasy religion-for-fee, and, apparently, fantasy politics. Until recently, American politics has rarely been more psycho.

The pamphlet was published under the imprint of the American Public Relations Forum, a conservative Catholic women’s group founded in 1952 by Southern California housewife, Stephanie Williams, who proclaimed to the opening meeting of the group, "We are the wives and mothers who are vitally concerned with what is happening in our country." David Seed, in Brainwashing: the Fictions of Mind Control (Kent State University Press, 2004) calls it “one of the strangest publications of the Cold War.”

Brain-Washing... purports to reprint a secret Soviet textbook and speech by Beria on mass mind-control techniques. Among the document’s many astounding claims is that “every chair of psychology in the United States is occupied by persons in our [Communist] connection.” Hubbard distributed the pamphlet to law enforcement agencies, and the forgery was sufficiently sophisticated to be taken seriously by President Eisenhower’s National Security Council.

While authorship has long been attributed to Hubbard, no one, to the best of our knowledge, has drawn a direct connection between this pamphlet and the contemporary hysteria surrounding the Alaska Mental Health Enabling Act of 1956, widely decried as the “Siberia Act” by conservative conspiracy theorists who claimed the law would be used to subject anyone outside the liberal political mainstream to psychiatric testing and, of course, subsequent banishment.  The APRF claimed that the law, which provided for the transfer of a million acres of Federal land in Alaska to the local authorities to fund the cost of providing modern mental health service facilities in the territory, was intended to give the government authority to abduct citizens at will and imprison them in concentration camps in Alaska. Glenn Beck could not have said it better. Actually, Stephanie Williams did:

"We could not help remembering that Siberia is very near Alaska and since it is obvious no one needs such a large land grant, we were wondering if it could be an American Siberia."

For former Governors of the state with failed larger ambitions, perhaps, but there was a precedent for internment of U.S. citizens during wartime - and this was a war on Communism - so the American Public Relations Forum, while engaging in pretzel logic, was not completely irrational in its concern.

Whether this pamphlet was part of the APRF's campaign against the Alaska Mental Health Enabling Act or not (its initial printing was issued a year before the controversy; subsequent issues may have had that purpose), it stands on its own as one of the most bizarre titles in the annals of American Right-Wing literature, and a testament to the imagination of a grade-z fringe writer who developed his gift of BS for the credulous into a breath- and wallet-taking pseudoscience psychobabble aliens-from-outer-space-our-spiritual-leaders creed that raised him to the status of America's most celebrated - and wealthy - charlatan of the twentieth century (but don't say that to a Scientologist).

Curiously, the electropsychometer (E-meter), Hubbard's quack contraption that he claimed could measure the pain felt by an eggplant and plays an important role in identifying the Scientology novice's psychological issues, is no where to be found within this book. What's brainwashing without a top-loading automatic washing machine?

[HUBBARD, L. Ron]. Brain-Washing. A Synthesis of the Russian Text Book on Psychopolitics. Including an Address by Beria, Formerly Head of the Russian Secret Police. Burbank: American Public Relations Forum, [ca 1958]. 56pp. Staple-bound, textured buff wrappers, printed in black.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 10, 2011, 03:50:25 PM
RE: Finding my religion (Cover feature, 8/25)

Former Scientologist shares her side of the story

By Tory Christman 11/10/2011

I was “in” the organization known as the “church” of $cientology” for 30 years. As George Horton said in his letter to you:
“Butch said Scientologists believe … and went on to describe what Scientologists believe. Well, in his description he got it wrong. One tenet of Scientology he could have said and been right about is that Scientology teaches that it is possible that a person can improve his own life and the lives of others around him.”

I believed as George does, for 30 years, that Scientology helps people improve their lives and the lives of others. It was only after years of trying to help them, that I became privy to what most Scientologists are not familiar with: the darker side of Scientology, written by L. Ron Hubbard and carried out, constantly, but David Miscavige and gang, now running this organization.

Their abuses are undeniable. These are just some:
1) In the Creed of a Scientologist, L. Ron Hubbard says: “We of the Church believe that all men have inalienable rights to think freely, to talk freely, to write freely their own opinions and to counter or utter or write upon the opinions of others.”

When I was “in,” however, we were not allowed to speak with anyone who they had decided was declared a “suppressive person” — if we did, we would be declared an SP and also lose all of our own friends, possibly family. (And I know it is still true as NONE of my 30-year “friends” or my husband of 27 years has talked with me, once, in 11 years.)

The “church” will try to justify this, saying “Well, if any of our members doesn’t want to speak with an evil person, (or any upsetting person or any other name they flip out), they don’t have to. Where this proves to be utterly false is as SOON as someone leaves the “church” of $cientology, one of THE first things they do is try to contact their friends, who also have left. The same is true for freedom to write freely, and frankly, once you get to higher levels, even thinking is in question. (See “Tory Talks to C.F.I.” if you want to fully understand that).

2) Due to #1 — this same “church” breaks up many, many marriages, families, cuts off children from their own parents, and parents from their own children. Their “PR” Tommy Davis (now gone for some time) said on camera: “There is no disconnection.” Yet I hold in my hand a written “SP Declare” saying, by the “Church of Scientology”: “Her ONLY Terminal is the International Justice Chief.” That IS Disconnection, right there.

3) Medical Abuse: I have epilepsy, and in 1972 I was ordered off of my much-needed medication. I had numerous grand mal seizures, which ruined my short-term memory. I am one example. People, many people have died while “in” Scientology, and/or committed suicide, due to the awful threats, stress, etc.

There’s tons more. Please visit my YT site to learn more:

To anyone “in” reading this: I offer you to come to my home, or meet in a restaurant and talk. I’ve made this offer to Scientologists for 11 years now. Even though I am in “What is Scientology,” gave them 30 years of my life, and more than $200,000 of my money — they now write furious lies about me on the Internet and think that’s just fine, and refuse to ever speak with me.

“Church”? Please. Read, look, listen … learn BOTH sides, and then make up your own minds.
And ask yourself this: If Tory is so evil, why is it she can say “read both sides” but the “Church” of Scientology cannot?
My love to you all. F

Tory Christman lives in Burbank.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 21, 2011, 09:15:25 AM
           Cults in Culture: Scientology – A Fictional Route to Happiness (Part 4)

The Christian Post

Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 26, 2011, 06:02:21 PM
Interesting info and photos for ex scios....

Post by: Ididntcomeback on December 05, 2011, 02:24:40 PM
                                Jessica Feshbach Rodriguez

    Seeing as though this information has already been leaked on WWP, it seems silly not to make comment on it here at ESMB.

    It is being reported that Jessica is in the late stages of leukemia. Apparently she is finally seeking medical attention but it may be too late for her. She has been trying to get "cured" by using Scientology auditing & assists up until this point.

    A certain lack of compassion has been expressed on WWP by some posters regarding Jessica's illness. Some say it's karma. Others on WWP are quite compassionate. I find myself feeling a lot of compassion & sympathy for both Jessica & Tommy Davis (her husband).

    These two young people were brought up in the cult and don't know any other kind of life. They don't have a pre-cult personality to fall back on in times of crisis where non cultic thinking is required.

    I'm really saddened by this. The only good thing that could come out of Jessica losing her life is that it "might" be the final straw for Tommy Davis and, like Mike Rinder & Robert Vaugh Young before him, the spokesperson for Scientology turns around & becomes a whistleblower.

    If Tommy were to blow & need support I'd give it to him no matter how moonbatty he was. I just can't help but feel sorrow for these guys. It makes me cry sometimes.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on December 17, 2011, 07:40:23 PM
Translation of an interview with journalist Luca Poma, from the website, May 22, 2010.

Scientology/" Ecco come funziona la Chiesa". L'intervista di Affari a Luca Poma -

Scientology: "This is how the church operates". Luca Poma interviewed by Affari

Saturday, May 22, 2010 4 P.M.

There exist hundreds of files containing sensitive information, from sexuality to health, about the followers of Scientology. There are also records about persons outside the organization who have in some way come into contact with the church founded by Ron Hubbard. But this is not all. Among the files are folders on people deemed dangerous by the church. This is what the Turin mobile squad found in the sect's secret archives which are stored on Via Bersezio: files on magistrates, policemen, journalists, and relatives of former followers. The contents are being examined by the prosecutor in the Piedmont capital. The subject of the suspected offense is the violation of the standards concerning the handling of sensitive data.

Files with sensitive data on sex, health, and politics, full of strange acronyms that are intelligible only to Scientology ministers, are stored together with the results of e-meter sessions, special examinations which supposedly enable Scientology to measure the spiritual state of patients. Among the many well-known names is Luca Poma, the Piedmont journalist and writer, who for ten years was an influential exponent of Scientology. The movement cast him out in 2003 when he questioned some of the group's methods. Affaritaliani interviewed Luca Poma, who described the secrets of the Scientology sect.

Luca Poma, you were a member of the Church of Scientology for six years. The raid in Turin uncovered an archive of sensitive information which has been seized by the police. What is the significance of these thousands of records and what is going on?

There have always been never-yet confirmed rumors about "Department 20" of the Church of Scientology (which consists of 21 departments), the department that deals with public relations as well as the protection of the church's image. The truth is now coming to the surface. It has been discovered that its duties involve keeping records not only about followers, but also about the church's enemies, real or potential. There have always been rumors, but there had never been evidence. And now, as a result of the seizure, there is evidence and it is abundant.

The enemies, who are they?

Myself, for example. I spent time with the group, I did some courses on communication techniques and some spiritual assistance services. But I saw things that I did not like and I wrote an essay to state the things that occur inside the group. I considered the essay critical, but not antagonistic. It was not an attack. I described what I had seen. It's too bad that they do not tolerate criticism, even the constructive kind. I became catalogued as an antisocial and dangerous person. But I am finding out from the news that investigations were carried out on the Honorable Luciano Violante, on Prof. Luigi Ciotti, on a magistrate in Milan, and other troublesome persons. The method was always the same. They had to find the crimes of the enemies, to dig into the past and in the shadowy areas. Anything would do, as long as it would make them desist from attacking.

What did you see that wasn't right in the Church of Scientology?

I haven't criticized the doctrine, but only the business and financial structure. The church does not publish financial statements, as all non-profit organizations do. There is a Calvinist attention to money. There are weekly statistics for which the staff must make more money than in the previous week. And this can only be achieved by selling more services and more books to the public which, of course, always gets squeezed for more. There is a substantial inconsistency: they speak of donations, however there is a specific price list...

For example?

From 10 euros for books up to thousands of euros for courses. The myth that people spend millions is an exaggeration, but one might spend from a few hundred euros to 80 to 100 thousand euros for a complete package of services. It's a program of spiritual improvement that begins with lessons of a technical and practical sort and then continues on paths whose nature is more spiritual, almost psychotherapeutic, essentially a passage through all areas of your past involving pain and discomfort in order to clear the negative emotions. This method, which is also used by psychotherapists, allows you to work on the areas of life where there have been tensions. What I dispute is not the doctrine, but how could a price list of donations be created. A donation is and should be a spontaneous act. A church, if it defines itself as such, should perform acts of charity. Here instead, there are discounts on donations: 30% if you buy more services, but if you run out of money, the spiritual assistance comes to a halt.

And this led you to express your doubts ...

Yes, I told them that reform is needed, and for this I was classified as a potential enemy. When I asked for the destruction of my files, I received both written and verbal assurances about their destruction. And I believed this, until there was a raid in Turin and my folder was found. You can't imagine my astonishement when the police informed me. Moreover, and this is the funny part, the letter requesting the destruction of the folder was in my file...

How does a person enter the Church of Scientology? How many followers are there?

Mainly by word of mouth. Celebrities like Tom Cruise have made a lot of publicity. But you can also join just by walking in. In Turin, there are about a hundred followers, in Italy, 4 thousand, though they claim that they number in the tens of thousands. But there is a very high turnover in the ranks of Scientology, both among staff and the public.

In any case, going in to join is simple: for example, people take the personality test (200 questions). The result is a breakdown of the weak and the strong points and the things that need improvement, essentially the information contained in the files. Then there is a series of services, as in any foundation. This is why it should be called a foundation for personal improvement and not a church. The term is a distortion, but it affords them exemptions which a foundation could not have.

And what happens after a person is in?

When you begin, a file is created about you and it contains technical, financial, and spiritual information: reports of your confessions and your progress are recorded minute by minute during the encounter with their expert, the auditor, "a person who listens". The file also contains information on many ethical and moral problems that come up. It was suspected that this internal department (OSA - Organization of Special Affairs) which is responsible for protecting Scientology's good image and for vigilance to prevent dangers for the Church, monitors the files: this would be questionable even though it might be within the law. What is illicit is skimming the folders in search of information. They did this in my case.

What happened?

As soon as they see that a person is not totally devoted to their beliefs, they probe for the person's weaknesses. Sexual, political, and other orientations. And when they are asked to destroy their documentation, they don't. Quite the opposite. They use the documents to protect themselves. I understand a group trying to protect itself, but resorting to unlawful means to do so cannot be tolerated. Then there is also a moral aspect: it is appalling that a religious minister would knowingly lie by stating things that are not true.

And what is the purpose of these files?

OSA is an internal network with a high degree of autonomy, an actual church within the church. Summaries of the dossiers are sent to the Italian central management of Department 20, in Vimodrone, near Milan, and for the more delicate matters, I imagine also to the central headquarters in Los Angeles, in the USA. The relationship with the United States is, in fact, very close, the hierarchy is very rigid. At the local level, churches don't have much authority to make decisions.

Let's talk about names that are known. Which ones, for example?

A "mole" within the organization, who in the past was actually responsible for these investigations and who is now cooperating with the prosecutor, has named Prof. Luigi Ciotti, Luciano Violante, Judge Clementina Forleo. Also journalist Massimo Numa (La Stampa) and fellow journalists Tommaso Cerno and Stefano Pitrelli from L'Espresso, Antonio Rossitto from Panorama, and Martini, who manages the Allarme Scientologywebsite. All of them were given attention as soon as they voiced criticism. There are probably records on regional and national politicians, if they have been critical. There would also be files on people who have held top positions in the sect and then left. And me too, of course...

And how are these files used?

Not for public attacks, of course. The technique used is very intelligent. Leaks of information are deliberately engineered in such a way that personal details about a person are made known until that person's silence is obtained. An good example is a guy who had unusual sexual habits and dressed in women's clothing in private. No need to attack directly through lawyers. Instead, they post compromising photos and information on websites and blogs. As a result, the concerned person is terrified of the sources that are leaking this information and avoids other attacks against the church.

So it boils down to fear tactics...

Let's put it this way: information is the optimal weapon and can be used for legal actions. The more the church knows, the better it can defend itself. Not only in court. The sect does not like criticisms from outside. They have what I call a Calimero complex: fear that everyone has a grudge against them. This indicates a deep-seated insecurity. In my case, for example, I was simply doubtful about some of their practices; I had no grudge against them. At least not until a few days ago, when I found out about this outrageous lie concerning the folders.

Scientology lives thanks to donations, as we've said. How is money collected?

Through two main channels: the first is the sale of courses and books. An organization of average size rakes in between 25 thousand and 30 thousand euros a week. The second, which dwarfs the first one, is the donations given for no service in return to support the IAS, which organizes weekly events in Italy to raise funds and manages to collect 250 to 300 thousand euros a week. All this money is then transferred to the United States, no one knows where.

What will you do now, as far as they're concerned?

I'm really disappointed. I'm trying again to get my documents back. If there are grounds to do so, I will register as an injured party in the prosecution.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on December 31, 2011, 07:39:29 AM
                                 Shocking Allegations of Who Developed Tech!!

    There's been a lot of talk about the sources of Dianetics and Scientology, antecedents and things of this nature, whether or not Elron Elray plagiarized the material, and so forth. Others have posted how interesting all of this is and I find myself identifying with that sentiment so I wanted to gather together, all in one place, various things I've read of different people who developed specific tech pieces.

    The goal here is to name sources with the appropriate links to where people state that so-and-so specifically developed *blank*.!!

Post by: Ididntcomeback on January 01, 2012, 12:31:50 PM
                    Could Warren Jeffs help bring down Scientology?

: Wed Aug 03, 2011

Warren Jeffs, the leader—check it—“prophet”—of the Fundamentalist
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (FLDS) is charged with 2 counts of sexual abuse of a child. He allegedly sexually assaulted 2 girls—one was 12 & the other 15 years old—and forced them into “spiritual marriage”.

FLDS is a radical off shoot of mainstream Mormonism & has been described by many as a polygamist cult.
This case is bringing national attention to the damages caused when a cult is allowed to operate unchecked.
It has been argued that the government took a “hands off” approach because—in Utah particularly—there were Mormons in political positions that didn’t want to rock the religious boat.

There is much more to the story but I bring it up here because of the glaring similarities between the FLDS cult & the cult of Scientology—especially the Sea Org.

Followers are forbidden any social media. No TV, no movies, no computers, no video games—nothing.
They are told that the “outside world” is evil or doesn’t have a clue about enlightenment—the cult is the only salvation.

There are allegations of abuse and/or neglect.
The church dictates all activity & people are forced to do things against their will.

Sect teachings must always be followed as dictated by the leader—even if the follower has a doubt about validity. Thought & behavior is controlled.
Failure to comply resulted in shunning the outcast, sending them away for an eternity of no salvation or certain retribution of some kind.

Those who wish to leave the group must escape.

At every opportunity the cult leader is claiming “religious persecution” to cloak his crimes in the sanctity of religion.

I hope the outrage at some of the FLDS’s activities will extend to ALL cults that are continuously committing crimes in the name of religion.

Warren Jeffs today—David Miscavige next?

                   Update   Jan 1st 2012

Post by: Ididntcomeback on January 04, 2012, 04:37:46 PM
             Electrodermal Testing Part I: Fooling Patients with a Computerized Magic Eight Ball

Published by Harriet Hall under Acupuncture,Energy Medicine,Homeopathy

Post by: Ididntcomeback on January 06, 2012, 11:10:26 AM
                                Scientology Captain Debbie Cook Speaks OUT

Tory Magoo...

Post by: Ididntcomeback on January 14, 2012, 08:10:12 AM
                       Cult information charity faces Charity Commission curb after complaint

After 25 years in operation, the Cult Information Centre fears it may no longer be able to work effectively

More than 160,000 charities in England and Wales are registered with the Charity Commission, thereby qualifying for charitable status and the tax relief and fundraising advantages that brings. So what happens when a registered charity is deemed to be in breach of the commission's stringent criteria? While the commission can't withdraw charitable status, it must investigate any alleged breach of the conditions of charitable status and ensure the charity is compliant.

The Cult Information Centre (CIC) was granted education charity status in 1992 but has recently run into difficulties with the commission after complaints were received in 2007 that it is in breach of the rules governing status. Specifically, it is alleged that the CIC isn't neutral concerning its educational work, which means it could be deemed to be a campaigning or political organisation. A commission spokeswoman explained: "The problem is that the CIC's education work seems to be coming from a pre-conceived standpoint whereas, when we granted charitable status, we specified that any educational work needs to be objective and factual. There has been ongoing correspondence, and the charity's trustees have offered to conduct a review into the charity's work and practices."

The CIC, set up 25 years ago, offers information on cults and new religious movements to the general public, including families who have lost relatives to such groups and former cult members trying make sense of what their experiences. Ian Haworth, who runs the charity, also gives talks to schools and other organisations on the psychological techniques cults use to recruit people and the threat that cults can pose to young lives; it is this educational element of the charity's work that has been under the spotlight.

The commission has not revealed who is behind complaints. Perhaps, unsurprisingly, the commission has received complaints from numerous cults ever since the CIC was awarded charitable status, and Haworth is at a loss to understand why the commission is only now flexing its muscles. He likens the restrictions the commission is trying to impose to a drugs awareness charity being told it can still operate, as long as it never says drugs are bad.

Haworth said: "We were awarded charitable status 20 years ago in spite of complaints from the Moonies, Scientology and the Hare Krishnas, which the commission was prepared then to override. Meanwhile, the commission continues to award charitable status to some very sinister and suspect groups whose contribution to the public good is arguable, and now the CIC is being told it can't operate effectively.

"The commission has got it all so wrong, while the whole business has distracted us from our core work. Our website content is now problematic, and we can't fundraise properly or talk openly to the press about groups, which is particularly worrying given that the vast proportion of stories go untold because cults are so litigious.

"An educational charity must, they say, be neutral, but how can we be neutral about the dangers of the coercive psychological techniques cults use to recruit?"

The commission suggests the CIC may have to "change its objects" which, in non-commission-speak, means it must maintain its status by using different qualifying criteria, ie, not claim to be an educational charity.

The CIC argues vigorously that its work is beneficial to the public, and the thousands of people Haworth has helped over the 25 years would, he says, undoubtedly agree, but the charity will get into hotter water still if it doesn't toe the line on neutrality. The Church of Scientology was famously refused charitable status in 1996 on the grounds that any organisation claiming public benefit under the banner of "advancement of religion" must believe in a supreme being and/or worship to express its religious belief, neither of which is the case for Scientology. Had it made its claim on other grounds, it might have been successful.

Since the 2006 Charities Act, the criteria under which organisations may apply has expanded hugely from the very narrow relief of poverty, advancement of education or religion, and a general "public-benefit" umbrella, to the advancement of anything from from amateur sports to human rights.

The irony for the CIC is that many of the sorts of groups the charity has been warning young people about before they go off to university have themselves achieved charitable status. The world famous Unification movement, for example, more commonly known as the Moonies, has enjoyed charitable status since 1974. If the CIC is prevented from raising awareness about the dangers of cult recruitment, there is precious little else out there for concerned parents or others needing to find out about cults. One thing is certain: any forthcoming information resulting from contacting a cult group directly to find out what they are about would very definitely not be neutral.

The CIC was the first port of call in 2003 for a teacher from Liverpool who can't be named for fear of reprisals from the group who recruited her son. She said: "The CIC are unique because they have a wealth of information and contacts at their fingertips. They put me in touch with an expert in the particular field our son was involved with, who swiftly identified the supposedly buddhist group our son had joined as fake. The CIC put us in touch with the charity Catalyst who gave us invaluable legal advice, and we used CIC literature to hand out to police and other concerned agencies – their book is brilliant, and it was the most efficient way to convey what had happened to our family. It was also very comforting to talk to someone who understood and didn't think we were crazy. The Charity Commission shouldn't stop the CIC doing this important work."

• This article was amended on 13 January 2012. The original article said that "an official [from the Charity Commission] let slip at a meeting attended by Haworth, and some CIC trustees that it was the Church of Scientology" which had made the complaint to the Charity Commission about the CIC. This is denied by the Charity Commission which has asked us to make clear that it is the commission's policy not to reveal the source of any complaint and that the complaint came from an individual who did not claim to be making the complaint on behalf of any one else or any other organisation.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on January 16, 2012, 04:08:44 PM
            Off Topic.... Yet....

                    NZ Bill to ban home grown food

The WorldWide Power Grab for Control of the Food Supply

A new 400 page, “food safety” bill introduced by the New Zealand Parliament in May 2010 has been stealthily making its way through the approval process and may become the law of the land in the near future. The bill is crafted to be in line with obligations to the World Trade Organization with regard to the international scam Codex Alimenatrius, also known as the “Food Book”.

This bill would seriously undermine efforts of families to be self sufficient by growing their own food. Shockingly, under the language of the bill, growing one’s own food is considered a privilege that can be revoked by the government at any time with non-Codex complying producers the most vulnerable to enforcement action.

Those “registering” to grow food (can you imagine such a thing?) would not be able to receive authorization if they do not comply with food production rules as outlined by Codex.

Distributing food – even for free – is not permitted and the definition of “food” is extremely broad encompassing nutrients, seeds, natural medicines, essential minerals, and even water!

By controlling even seeds, the power to grow food is handed to global seed companies like Monsanto. Seed sharing banks and networks could be shut down if they are not able to obtain government authorization. This would frighteningly and very quickly result in a loss of seed variety and be of clear financial benefit to the global seed companies.

Home-grown food and some or all seeds could not be bartered on a scale to feed people of a community even in the event of economic collapse where commercially grown food has become unavailable or unaffordable.

Let me repeat that: This bill would force people to starve in the face of economic hardship rather than grow their own food to survive.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on January 21, 2012, 05:02:06 PM
                                    How to Create an Entire Religion
Discussing the creation of religion in video games.
US, January 21, 2012

We don't see religion pop up in games very often. The quarian fear of ancestral punishment by way of the geth is the next best thing in Mass Effect. Thane Krios is devoutly faithful to the drell's dwindling faith, and the most spiritual character in Mass Effect 2. With the world ending, we doubt there's much time for faith in Mass Effect 3. Spirituality is mentioned but rarely explored in video game stories, and conflict is almost nonexistent outside of the Chantry's persecution of the mages in Dragon Age.

Dead Space 2 earned a nomination for Best Action Game during IGN's Best of 2011 awards for more reasons than its excellent action. Its masterful pacing, intense combat, and frightening atmosphere are slaves to the story Visceral put at the front of its design. Every one of these elements -- as well as characters, settings, events, and enemies -- ties back to a singular thing that differentiates Dead Space from most everything else in the medium. Story Producer Chuck Beaver relies on the ever-evolving nature of religion to drive the franchise forward.

We picked Beaver's brain about Unitology, the in-game religion formed by fanatical followers of Michael Altman; they worship Altman's "Marker," an alien obelisk he discovered on Earth. Beaver spilled on Unitology's creation, where it's going, and what role religion plays in video game storytelling.

What follows involves extremely detailed specifics about the Dead Space lore, including the games and expanded universe. Spoiler Warning for the entire Dead Space story is now in effect.

IGN: I was going to ask about a story bible, but now I'm more curious if you guys have literal Bible stuff. Unitology Scripture. Is there a collection of it, like a real Altman book?

Chuck Beaver: We reference that there is Unitology scripture of some kind, but we don't have the literature written out yet. If there are any passages that've appeared they were probably written as they were needed. The closest thing is the church level in Dead Space 2 where there's a lot of explanation about how Unitology came to be.

To answer your original question, we do have a full lore bible.

IGN: How do you keep other writers in line so they abide by it? When people work on the comics and movies and games, do they answer to you?

CB: So far I've been able to keep the empire under control (laughs). Mostly through points of contact. I'm in charge of all that, then I lens it through Ben Wanat, my Creative Director. All the movies and books and comics that have been produced, I've produced the story for those. So they come from a single fountain that understands everything. The people we work with, when we hire the writers, they get the bible, they get to see all the work that's been done so far. We set them up [in the world] so there's no conflict or overlap, and then let them flesh out the details.

IGN: Unitology isn't just something in the Dead Space world, it's what everything we know about revolves around. We know names, history, its faults, its attraction. We get to explore its churches, read its teachings, discover who its leaders are. What's the biggest struggle when developing a fleshed-out and fully believable religion in fiction?

CB: I have to say, it wasn't incredibly difficult. It's a lot of what me and co-creator Ben Wanat tend to think about anyway. All the time (laughs). The nature of humans and why they gravitate toward religion, what purpose does it serve, why is it so persistent even in the face of utterly clear contradictory data? So that impulse is really interesting for us to talk about.

When it came time to create [a religion], we just took all those conversations and put them in the design for Unitology. It felt like a natural response to what might happen if a Marker appeared. You know, people get all crazy about Jesus on toast, so imagine if an actual alien artifact appeared. Of course there would be a religion about it, religious impulse is very strong for that sort of stuff. It started with that basic, organic assumption that this is what would happen, and then we started growing fun and interesting ideas after that.

IGN: How characters respond, positively or negatively, and how that affects everyone else...stuff like that?

CB: [Storytelling] is about asking questions once you set something in motion. Here comes a religion, right? Let's give it like 200 years of history so it has some sort of root system it can withstand, it's got some sort of tradition and body of knowledge and scripture to work from. So there's something to react to, and then you start looking into that and seeing how people react.

We looked up what a cult was, like what is it that defines cults? We applied that to Unitology to begin with, which, unfortunately for us, drew us into a lot of unintentional comparisons with Scientology. We had a lot of people saying we were making fun of Scientology, and we're like "no, no. We made a cult that happens to look like Scientology." Once you establish what your religion is -- ours is about the Marker, and this history, and you give up all your money, and believe in this unification, and all humanity is going to be in oneness in the end -- then people encounter it. So it's, just like you said, about populating the world with people's reactions to it. Then they either believe it devoutly or believe it for the wrong reasons. Once you have a normal layer of how society is functioning, something crazy happens to it. In Dead Space 1, their entire world belief system is challenged because their religion is telling them suddenly, "these terrible, hideous monsters are what's supposed to be happening." That's when it becomes an absurdist test of faith...we had tons of fun with that. A religion put into absurdity is really a blast to write because you get to see everyone's reactions.

Dead Space iOS is about repenting for one's sins.

IGN: That's the most interesting thing to me. You have all these different worldviews reacting to the same one thing. There are all these characters whose perspectives are forced on the player. Isaac is anti-unitology, literally fighting against it. In the iOS game, Vandal is a practicing Unitologist, which is the best thing about it for me.

CB: Ha, that's my favorite thing! Right? Here's this fresh recruit, a smart science nerd, and as with everything you're like "it's faith, and it's going to be all good, and it sounds like a good idea!" And immediately there's betrayal. She's like, "Really, really? I gave my heart to that and that's the first thing that f***ing happens?" It's innocence lost, and really harshly. Bruised knees and everything for her...she doesn't know she's being used. It's just a great statement about all of religion in general. She doesn't even get a moment where she's consoled by it...and then they leave her to die. Sorry!

IGN: We see a lot of religion in games, but rarely any conflict within it. Assassin's Creed: Revelations missed out on some interesting Muslim/Christian culture clashing, I think. How do you think having this conglomerate of conflicting viewpoints about one religion best benefits our interaction with the Dead Space story?

CB: I think it makes the world that much richer. It's certainly a big mystery box that never gets fully opened. Because you're never really sure where an absurdist religion is going to go. What are they capable of doing, you know? There's always a very viable conspiracy theory that's percolating in your head that might actually be true, because sure enough, there are Markers, so maybe Unitology is halfway right. These convergence events are happening, and it looks like they're on to something. It's nice that it keeps you compelled to learn more, because it's possible your imagination is filling in these big circles. That's kind of titillating, I think.

IGN: If you're steeped in the Dead Space lore, you know more about Unitology and the goings on in the world than anybody actually appearing in the games. It's an interesting way to position players when throwing them into the fiction.

CB:Did you read Martyr? I don't want to spoil [the novel] if you haven't...

IGN: I didn't finish it but I know what happens.

CB: That's a great example of what you're saying. Like, everyone thinks Altman, whose name you hear constantly, was the founder. It's wonderful that it turns out, no, it's just human hubris at work again. [Unitology] is nothing more than a construct of bad intentions and people being manipulative. It has this really grotesque beginning and it turns out the public face of Unitology is this shiny, happy thing. And it's corrupt to the core.

It's like the Scientology thing. Human nature takes the religious impulse, and certainly unscrupulous impulse and uses it to great effect to localize benefit. A few people can manipulate a lot of people if they get a religious idea people really believe in, and then use it without believing in it. So they saw there was a movement coalescing around Altman and thought they'd use it, which is what they did in the Martyr book. We wanted to play up on that whole idea, make a statement: This is what happens to religions. They aren't this pure, honest, belief system untouched by the soiled hands of man. Often it may be only soiled hands masquerading as this religion. And that's what we wanted to use to showcase Unitology. It piggybacks on the religious impulse of man.

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Post by: Ididntcomeback on January 29, 2012, 08:31:07 AM
                                  The LIE of Hubbard's Whole Track Recall in Scientology

    "WHOLE TRACK" is a subset of a psychiatric technique called abreactive therapy. Abreactive means Abnormal Reaction Therapy. It consists of having the subject cook up an incident - from imagination - having the person imagine and create an incident and then experience emotional reaction to the incident.

    William Sargant and others noted this oddity that soldiers gained relief from battle neurosis by re-experiencing either real traumas that happened -OR-, amazingly, imagined traumas that would explain their neurosis.

    The CRIMINALITY of Hubbard is evidenced by his having the unmitigated gall to tell people that those imagined incidents were REAL. while he had a physical copy of William Sargant's "Battle for the Mind" on his bookshelf (note)

They are not real. If they were real, then the last chapter of "Test of Whole Track Recall" would not have been so silly to read . Not only did our COMMODORE find NOTHING from his own supposed whole track...after weeks of literally digging for gold that he had IMAGINED that was hidden while he was supposedly incarnate as Cecil Rhodes..... I do not know of a single $cientologist who has.

Note:Abreactive therapy was abandoned by the psychology community because it took too long to train people on how to do it, and far better ways were developed..

Note: In esoteric literature there is only a now, there is no past or future, both are apparencies of this universe.. which has a thing called time. The most important thing is what you do or decide now. See the supposedly super secret book of magic mentioned by Ron Dewolfe in 1/10th of 1pct of Scientology, titled Abra-Melin Magick. (see page three of that thread where I posted the reference BY Hubbard in part2) The book is on Scribd.

Note: Re bookshelf. I have a list of books that were iin Hubbard's office at FCDC. Included on that list is Dr. Sargant's book. So Hubbard KNEW he was altering the real source, altering the work of a man who was the #1 authority for psychiatry in UK, Dr William Sargant. Perhaps THIS is why Hubbard demonized psychiatry.. so no recovering scientologist would dare read his book. I did, I believe you should too.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 02, 2012, 07:41:38 AM
                          Julian Assange meets The Simpsons

Posted on February 1, 2012

Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 03, 2012, 07:36:35 AM
February 2, 2012 15:02

                End Of The Road Festival denies link to the Church Of Scientology

Organisers say that though two of the festival's staff are Scientologists, there is no official link

The organisers of End Of The Road Festival have denied that the festival has an official link with the Church Of Scientology.

The festival, which will take place at Larmer Tree Gardens in Wiltshire on August 31 – September 2 in 2012 and will be headlined by Grizzly Bear and Tindersticks, has issued a statement which admits that though two of its directors are members of the Church Of Scientology, the festival itself has no formal link with the organisation.

They told the Guardian: "There have been suggestions on forums that End of the Road Festival may have some connection to the Church of Scientology. This arose after the eFestivals founder was sent an anonymous letter. It’s quite likely that the same person sent similar letters to the music and general press. Two of the directors are scientologists. The remaining directors and management are not."

It continues: "End of the Road has no connection with the Church of Scientology, financial or otherwise. None. In any case, philosophical inclinations are personal and have nothing to do with a music festival. Anyone who has been to an End of the Road Festival will already know that."

The Antlers, Outfit, First Aid Kit and Moulettes are also among the acts who are set to appear at the festival this summer. For more information about the event, visit

Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 04, 2012, 10:23:53 AM
                After ‘Lunch’
The Letters William S. Burroughs Wrote at the Height of His Success

Published: February 3, 2012

In 1959, as this collection begins, William S. Burroughs was living in Paris at 9, rue Git-le-Coeur, the address that would come to be known as “the Beat Hotel.” “Naked Lunch” had just been published by the Olympia Press; because of censorship it would not be published in the United States for another three years. He was collaborating with the British artist and writer Brion Gysin on a variety of experimental procedures. Gysin had just accidentally discovered the cut-up method, in which pages of different texts are cut into sections and combined and re­arranged to form new meanings. The two were also making tape-recorder mon­tages and tinkering with a stroboscopic device called the dream machine. Burroughs was then at the height of his literary activity, working on many of his most important books, from “The Soft Machine” to “The Wild Boys,” within the following few years. Consequently, “Rub Out the Words,” unlike its predecessor (“The Letters of William S. Burroughs, 1945-1959,” edited by Oliver Harris, 1993), is longer on argument than on incident.
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William Burroughs in 1962.


The Letters of William S. Burroughs, 1959-1974

Edited by Bill Morgan

Illustrated. 444 pp. Ecco/HarperCollins Publishers. $35.

    Times Topic: William S. Burroughs

Although the book includes roughly two dozen letters to Allen Ginsberg, Burroughs had by then shifted his focus away from his erstwhile Beat comrades. He made only a handful of brief, mostly ­business-related visits to the United States during this period (the collection ends with his move back to New York in 1974, after 25 years abroad). He became famous in the 1960s, although the letters only obliquely reflect this. He certainly did not become rich; feuds with and complaints to and about his various publishers, generally on the subject of money, form a recurring subtheme. He was now at least temporarily free of his heroin addiction, apparently thanks to the apomorphine treatment devised by Dr. John Yerby Dent of London, and there are a great many repetitive proselytizing letters on that subject addressed to people around the world. (Apomorphine, which is not an opiate, has never been proved effective as a cure for addiction, although it is used in the treatment of Parkinson’s disease.)

Throughout the period, Burroughs dabbled in a variety of psychological nostrums and therapies, including Wilhelm Reich’s orgone box, L. Ron Hubbard’s Scientology and Timothy Leary’s experiments with psychedelics. He clashed with Leary during a visit to Harvard and quickly terminated the connection. He similarly objected to Hubbard’s personality and ambitions and denounced the highly regimented Scientology organization, although he continued to subscribe to some of the religion’s core beliefs, making frequent references to its chief diagnostic tool, the e-meter, throughout the decade. For Burroughs, these alternative approaches to inner life ranged close to his literary terrain. He believed that language was a virus that had achieved equilibrium with its human host, and that “blocks” of language and thought enforced convention, making it necessary to find techniques, from cut-ups to ­e-meters, to break the patterns......

More here...

Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 09, 2012, 08:48:52 AM
        Instead of Catholics and contraception, think of Scientologists and mental-health services

If you think the ObamaCare rule requiring Catholic institutions (with some exceptions) to provide coverage for contraception in their health plans is an unconstitutional attack on religion, think again.

Imagine, if you will, that an institution run by Scientologists chose to deny its non-Scientologist employees coverage for mental-health services. Would the ObamaCare rule be unconstitutional in a case like that?

Eric Zorn of the Chicago Tribune envisions just such a scenario in THIS PROVOCATIVE PIECE about the current controversy regarding Catholic institutions.

By the way, I can also imagine situations in which Islamic institutions might want to deny certain kinds...


Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 17, 2012, 11:02:08 AM
                              CCHR: Whitney Houston is Dead; Give Us Money!!

Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 21, 2012, 09:04:59 AM
                Church of Scientology renovates old cigar factory, holds pieces of Tampa’s history

Updated: Monday, 20 Feb 2012, 9:48 AM EST
Published : Monday, 20 Feb 2012, 7:21 AM EST

Kerry Klecic/

YBOR CITY - You could say the legendary Ybor Square holds the perfect balance of old and new.

On the corner of 8th Avenue and 13th Street, it stands as a symbol of Tampa’s past – holding 116 years of history between its red-brick walls – and sign of its future.

Years ago, it stood as the Tampa Bay area’s only brick cigar factory.

Built in 1886 by Don Vicente Martinez Ybor, factory workers who came from Cuba would churn out more than 10,000 cigars a day.

Fast forward to 2012, and it sits as a mix of modern magnificence and persevered relics.

You can thank the Church of Scientology for much of that.

The church bought the building last year for $7 million and poured in $6 million in renovations – refurbishing but still preserving much of its old roots. The three-building Ybor Square is also home to Spaghetti Warehouse and the offices for Creative Loafing.

"We were very lucky because, first of all, the building has really great bones, and the way it's constructed is really good,” said Lisa Mansell, spokeswoman for the Church of Scientology.

The church, which Mansell said has renovated more than 20 historic buildings around the world, houses hundreds of employees at the site. As you walk through its luxurious, modern rooms, you forget for a moment that you’re in a 116-year-old building.

But there are glimpses of the past around nearly every corner.

Old platforms where lectors would read books and newspapers to factory workers remain in place. There are authentic tobacco bale presses, tin ceilings and the massive windows that were kept open to help cool the building during hot days.

Remarkable, Ybor City Museum curator Liz McCoy said, considering everything the building has been through.

“I do have to say I was worried because it’s been through so many different owners; it had gone through periods where so many different businesses had been in the building,” she said. “I wasn’t sure what to expect going in … but I was pleasantly surprised to find that they had left so many of the design elements in place.”

PHOTOS: Tour the building

The outside of the building has its own bit of history, too. On the front steps, Cuban revolutionary Jose Marti delivered a famous speech to factory workers at the time of the Cuban Revolution, rallying support against the Spanish suppression.

“It was a natural place for Jose Marti, who’s seen by many as sort of this George Washington figure of Cuba,” McCoy said. “He would come up to Tampa because there was such a large Cuban population here, trying to drum up support and money for the fight going back on in Cuba.”

The old factory is also entwined in the birth of the Cuban sandwich, McCoy said. It wasn’t invented there, but the first tasters were its factory workers.

“The workers would tend to go and get these huge lunches, and some of the business managers realized that their productivity was really dropping off after lunch,” McCoy said. “(They) went to some local eateries and said, ‘Look, you guys have to come up with something that’s less heavy – not so crazy. Bring it over, and we’ll give it a shot.’

And it’s thought that the first batches of Cuban sandwiches were brought over to the business offices of the Ybor factory. And the workers tried it out, loved it, and they said, ‘Tomorrow, bring back more.’”

And here’s some food for thought: Tampa was just a small fishing town when the cigar factory went up. It brought jobs and an economic boom.

Without it, who knows what our city would look like today.,-holds-pieces-of-tampa%E2%80%99s-history-022012

Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 15, 2012, 07:36:13 AM
                                           2012 Birthday Event Release

    Received this email from Deb Schreib today. I don't even know who she is but apparently I helped in an outstanding way last year. (Not!)

    Dear [name],
    Your help for all of last year was outstanding!!!!!
    Thank you and please continue!
    Remember, we just launched into a new Birthday Game year. So, we have a new game. Let’s play!

    Here’s some awesome news!

    This year at the Birthday Event, there will be a new release. It is the biggest source release on LRH to date!

    I need your help, by buying this release from LAF,
    we can kick start the new year and show that we are in it to win it!

    As the HCO Executive Secretary, I am over Dissemination, and therefore Book Sales.

    Call me directly for the details and pricing!

    Buy from LAF and help secure a new win!

    Deb Schreib
    HCO Executive Sec
    OT Ambassador
    (818) 415-5637


LOL. Deb Schreib's home was foreclosed on in 2008. I hope she's selling a lot of them books...

Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 15, 2012, 09:04:08 PM

Here is a very sane talk by John McMaster, at the Ambassador Hotel in La La Land in 1970.

He was the worlds first, first Clear.  The second, first clear was the lady who appeared at the Shrine auditorium with Hubbard where they were both publicly humiliated.

 40 MBs   58 minutes in length.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 18, 2012, 10:02:12 PM
                  LA Hubbard's 101 B-day Party at the Shrine and OUR Picket!

    On ST Patty's day, despite it raining off and on, we
    decided to head down to the Shrine Auditorium to picket.

    Outside the Shrine was a large tent with tables inside and GIGANTIC
    photos of Hubbard (Many diff images of him). No doubt a place to work
    people over to get some $$$.

    Since the cops informed us this was going to be shut off, and parking was on the other side, we moved over to the other side where a large mass of OSA, Cops, and phony security arrived, quickly. Despite the fact that in the beginning it was just myself,
    John, Casper and a TV channel filming us, and soon after Lynn Cambell....they had ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL these police there, "just in case".

    Scientology did their typical "We can't/won't talk with you"...and we did our
    "What about?" Questions. Everything seemed to be rolling along until Doug Owens stayed on their side (we'd all been told to move across the street and we did).

    Shortly after, Doug was handcuffed
    and arrested. Of course the OSA ops were thrilled with this.

    Soon after that, the buses began to arrive with the staff. In between
    the staff busses (including Gold)---were some cars for public.

    We who used to be "in" all agreed it was WAYYYYYYYYYY more than
    in days past when floods of public would arrive.

    Here's Part 1 taken by Smurf:!

The Dianetics B-day is coming up soon and I hope more of you will join
us for *that*

Love to ALL

PS: Doug, John, Casper and I went to dinner with Lynn (we lost Smurf
somewhere)----and after Casper came over. He left around midnight,
and just called me to tell me they'd let Doug OUT and he was going to
pick him up.

Parts 1, 2 and 3 here...!

Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 19, 2012, 11:02:29 AM
                    Follow up comments to the LAPD being in Scios pocket..

Thx for posting this. I am shocked about the behaviour of the LA Police. In Germany the police supports as good as they can the protesters against the Cult. In LA the police seems to be the friend of the Cult. Really shocking. It "scares" me.

It didn't used to be this way. When I was in a 17-day deposition with the cult in 1994, because I was being threatened and closely followed, Graham Berry hired off-duty LAPD cops to protect me and drive me where I needed to go. This had the approval of LAPD commanders. Tim Bowles & Rick Moxon was pissed.

One of the officers sat next to me in the deposition room, until the Tim Bowles screamed foul, and the judge ruled officers could sit outside the room as long as they were permitted to search cult attorneys for weapons first. The wall of the room was made of glass.

Tim Bowles noticed one of the officers outside the room reading the book, "The Firm". He had a major hissy fit, believing this was an attempt to harass them (because Tom Cruise starred in the movie version of the "The Firm") and filed a complaint with police commanders, who responded, Tim Bowles "can go pound salt" and was acting stupidly.

In a later deposition, cult attorney Elliot Abelson said that the cult contributed $50,000 to the LAPD to help them put lap top computers in the patrol cars, and that they had the LAPD "in their back pockets." Money & influence speaks volumes with the LAPD.

It doesn't help that the cult has one of their attorneys (a former police commissioner) working for the LAPD.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 19, 2012, 11:05:33 AM
                      Greenfields School: it's not looking good for Scientology

                             Posted on ESMB

I had a wander over to the Department for Education website, to have a look at the league tables they publish, detailing the quality (or not) of instruction given at Greenfields School.

Greenfields School is an Applied Scholastics institution; the only one in the UK (AFAIK). It's located in East Grinstead, and exists to serve the needs of Scientology cultists, to whom East Grinstead is something of a Mecca, because of Stain Hill Manor.

The 'Study Tech' was created by LRH, and is based on a tradition of academic under-achievement that he started himself. But let's see what the government figures show, rather than the usual Scientology promotional material. (Raw data available here.)

First up, Greenfields is unusual in that it caters for children from 3-19. Most UK schools have a far narrower age range, requiring that children move on between distinct nursery, primary and secondary schools. But Greenfields will keep your kids in the only Applied Scholastics game in town... for anything up to sixteen years.

Next oddity... there are just one hundred pupils.

Scientology is, as we all know, expanding like never before. Straight up, vertical growth, just like that little guy on the soap box said. Right? Well, um... no. Despite this part of the UK being the cult hotbed (the Stain Hill Manor effect means that fully half of the UK's Scientology victims live in or near East Grinstead), there's just 100 children at the only Scientology school. (Scientology, millions of members in the UK? My arse.)

It's normal practice to split classes up, by year (age) but if this were done with Greenfields' 100 pupils, there'd be just six and a quarter in any given year. If you offer them options (German, History or Metalwork?) you'd have class groups so small that they'd vanish.

Moving on to look at the quality of education that a child can expect to get at the cult school, we see that for 2011, the key stat of "Percentage achieving 5+ A*-C GCSEs (or equivalent) including English and maths GCSEs" ... was 41%. By comparison, the pupils of the nearby Comprehensive school, Imberhorne Lane scored 70% in this stat. Their young people are quite simply better prepared to get jobs, or go on to study at university.

(When considering this, bear in mind that a Comprehensive school is generally nothing special. They don't get to pick and choose their pupils; it's just the place that anybody who lives in the catchment area can send their children. Snobbish people might say that comprehensives are something of a 'safety net', and don't perform as well as academies, technology colleges, faith schools and so on.)

Imberhorne Lane has 1,687 pupils registered, despite the narrower age range of 11-18. Clearly, Greenfields School - with just 100 pupils - is failing. The best news is that everybody knows it, and even some of the clams are sending their children elsewhere.

Seems to me that whenever you see the words "Hubbard" and "education", the word "fail" can't be far behind.

Let's not talk about the Greenfields teacher who got jailed for sex offenses in 1994 (OK, go on then, if you must...) It's the kids I feel sorry for. No wonder they end up being drafted into the Sea Org, after more than a decade of Hubbardian garbage presented as 'education'.

I'll end with a classic Scientology arrogance and fuckup story: Greenfields originally opened in Hammerwood in 1981... but it did so without planning permission, and the school was forced to move sites by the local authority.

Make it go right. Um.

Does anybody on ESMB have stories of their time at Greenfields they'd like to share?


Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 24, 2012, 07:54:09 AM
                                           It's good to be Gotye.

The Australian singer/songwriter played his first show in Washington, D.C.last night – an electrifying performance for a sellout crowd at the 9:30 Club. One thing’s for sure: The next time he comes to D.C., it will be at a much larger venue, like DAR Constitution Hall.

Gotye (pronounced go-tee-ay) owes much of his seemingly overnight success here to "Somebody That I Used to Know," an infectious breakup song that plants itself in your brain and refuses to leave for a few days. It's destined to be a Top 10 hit -- maybe even a No. 1 hit – in the U.S. (He's already huge in Australia and the U.K.)...........           

..........The freaky video for "State of the Art," which featured a maniacal organ attacking an unsuspecting family, saved an otherwise ugly experiment in vocoder/autotune. And "Don't Worry We'll Be Watching You," an especially spooky song which Gotye said was about Scientology, got an ominous introduction:

"Thanks for bringing the cherry blossoms out early for us," Gotye said. "Of course you have a darker side. We passed it today – the Church of Scientology."

Take that, Tom Cruise.

"Somebody That I Used to Know," which came just after the show's halfway point, was an exercise in karaoke, with the audience overpowering Gotye and his guest singer, Kimbra. She's a Kiwi with a promising career, who opened the show (more on her in a minute).......,0,1217435.story

Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 25, 2012, 12:01:42 PM
                                      JOE's Five Biggest Film Flops
24 March 2012

Disney have announced that they will lose $200 million on their new film John Carter. To mark the occasion, we decided to look back at some memorable box office flops.

By Dermot Keys

Battlefield Earth

L Ron Hubbard may have successfully discovered/invented Scientology but his other ventures as a science fiction writer proved somewhat less successful and it was hardly surprising when John Travolta's adaptation of one of his books failed miserably at the box office. Set in the year 3000, the plot revolved around a future world where humanity had been enslaved by seven foot aliens with camp costumes and funny hairdos.

Acting so wooden that it could start fires, a misguided plot, and dialogue that seemed to be written by someone new to the language all combined to make this a useful guide in how not to make a film.


Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez were at the height of their 'Bennifer' romance when they starred in their first film together. Proving that you shouldn't mix work and pleasure, Gigli put their burgeoning acting careers into a temporary coma. It was savaged by the critics and it ultimately lost $47million at the box office.

The leads' salaries combined were three times what the actual film took in. On the bright side, it became one of the few films to sweep the Razzies and win Worst Picture, Worst Actor, Worst Actress, Worst Screen Couple, Worst Screenplay and Worst Director.

The Adventures of Pluto Nash

There was a time when Eddie Murphy was one of the funniest comedians on the planet. These days, the only amusing thing about him is his CV. For those who haven't seen it, which would be most people, this futuristic 2002 film was about a man who tries to keep his lunar nightclub out of the hands of the mafia.

The premise alone may explain how it lost $96million at the box office but it doesn't explain how they managed to spend $100 million on it in the first place. The film's release was actually shelved for two years before the studio finally smeared it onto the big screen like some sort of cinematic dirty protest.

Heaven's Gate

This epic western starring Kris Kristofferson famously bankrupted the United Artists studio after its costs ballooned during filming and it flopped at the box office, losing $40 million in 1980. Director Michael Cimino was on the crest of a wave after his success with The Deer Hunter but his career nosedived after this film.

Heaven's Gate is also famous for the amount of animals tortured during its production so maybe its dire performance in the cinemas could be put down to karma. The original cut was a staggering five hours and 25 minutes long so something presumably got lost in translation for the final cut. It has since enjoyed a critical reevaluation in recent times but it is still notorious as the film that sank a studio.

Zyzzyx Road

This film has passed into legend after it grossed just $30 at the box office. Not $30 million, $30. In fact, only six people went to see it during the six days that it was in the cinema. A crew member who brought a friend to actually got a refund, bringing the box office total to just $20. Ouch.

Starring Katherine Heigl and Tom Sizemore and costing an estimated $2million to make, it was only released to comply with Screen Actors Guild regulations. At least it managed to deflect attention from its inane title by becoming the lowest-grossing film of all time.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 03, 2012, 01:36:23 PM
                                                   OT Levels in Mandarin

                                                     Posted by Infinite on ESMB

運作中的希坦一至八級(Operating Thetan I - VIII)的完全經文,可以在維基泄密(找到,但網址暫時在改建中。在此 之前 ,詳細的摘要在菲什曼的誓章中(The Fishman Affidavit),也是法庭紀錄,是山達基首席律師確認是真正的。

菲什曼的誓章後來被法庭封鎖了,但荷蘭作家 Karin Spaink 貼在她的網址,經過多年官司,荷蘭法庭判她勝訴。美國法庭判定這些經文不算是商業秘密,但受到 版權保護,所 以公平引用的摘要是絕對合法的。

山達基教會警告,若不跟從正當步驟讀經文,會染肺炎而死。但這樣死的從沒有聽聞,本人可以作活 生生的例證。

但山達基人偷看經文是重罪,你們是過不了測謊機的(E-meter),看過了必然斷送了你們的自由之路。事實上,偷看過了而不爆的(blow=離教),教會不會 放 過你這個金蛋。

這個摘要,是根據菲什曼誓章,Stacy Brooks 的透視,和 Maria Pia Gardini 誓章,加上「Mrs Smith」的翻譯,但非山達基人看到了全文也完全不知道是什麼回事,沒頭沒腦的,其他人的解說也不完整 , 因為有些概念很難簡短形容,山達基詞彙不可以用普通詞彙解釋,而且有些人完成了某OT級後,也 不知道它是什 麼,教會說通過了便通過了。

這些經文可能有多個版本,教會也有新舊之分。經文是教會最高機密,是不能離開課室的,個人的回 憶不盡相同。 可以帶走的資料也不能給任何人看到。所以外人不可以確認那是正確版本。菲什曼的版本是最早公開 的,與後期的 不甚相同,他也不是深資山達基人,只是從別人手中得到經文,但只有他的版本被山達基律師確認。


教會說第一步是要以新鮮的觀點看這個物質宇宙和其它眾生。菲什曼說有三個版本,最新的只有一個 「看人」的指 令,執行直到有認知(cognition)。瑪麗亞說是那真是胡扯蛋,就是你自己一個人走來走 去,去「看到 」一些東西。她走到咖啡店磨時光,回去說有覺新(wins)便完成了。


教會說這級解鎖整個時間軌跡(億兆年的宇宙歷史)中偏差錯亂的因素,這些因素使希坦(精神個體 )失去天生的 自由。

偏差錯亂是因為你的希坦在億兆年的宇宙歷史中曾經被「強制性植入」(implants)。你會 拿到一張列出 長長的植入表單,包括電擊植入、言語植入等等。你必須深入時間軌跡,一個個把這些植入處理掉。 這是在獨自聽 析中完成,聽析中你必須大聲的跟自己講話。 開始聽析時,你必須在時間軌跡上想到光點的出現,然後從那光點去找植入事件,儀表(E-meter)上的讀數確認事件的發生,然後解讀儀表上的指針動作,來來回回的以「兩分法」(或分裂 dichotomies)處理植入事件, 磨掉(run)它們。


教會說這一級獨自聽析藏著宇宙的秘密,你面對並剷除一直困擾著這個宇宙千萬年的人類心理障礙, 一旦完成,被 「時間軌跡壓倒」纏住了的你,可以解放出來。開始這級之前,要簽棄權書,大意是可能發生到你的 身體或精神上 的任何事件,山達基組織、其分支機構和成員,一切不負責。

瑪麗亞是科幻小說迷,早已唸過了,內容跟一本羅恩賀伯特的科幻小說很相似,差點兒拍成好萊塢電 影。「銀河系 大魔頭」基努(Xenu),在七億五千萬年前為了解決人口過剩問題,把大量外星人捕捉,掉入地 球的火山中, 用原子彈炸得魂魄四散,然後把我們看到的所為現實,花幾星期時間植入這些東西的腦子,之後這些 支離破碎的破 希坦(Body Thetan,簡稱 BT)便吸附在人類的肉身上面。誰人若是覺察到「現實」只是灌輸,是會觸發自動毀滅程式,只有羅恩賀 伯特發 明的技術,可以打破了這個程式。

聽析時,你必須跟你身上的破希坦講話,你想著不同的地方,儀表的指針讀數會告訴你破希坦是否在 那兒,然後要 它們離開你的身體,再找不到破希坦便通過這級。



這級要處理「破希坦團塊」( Body Thetan Clusters)。你現在要處理整個時間軌跡裡的藥物,還有你身上破希坦所服的藥物,這些破希坦在你做完 OTIII之後還沒走光,因為他們有嗑過藥。



原來一切也是破希坦,你的思維、愛、腳趾、鞋、月亮。這些破希坦跟團塊是沉睡型的,你必須把它 們喚醒,然後 賦予它們身分地位,這樣它們就會走開了。

OTV 是這樣做的,聽析員的指令:「觀看你的身體(不是用肉眼),找出破團塊。」當聽析員在電儀表上 讀到指數時他 又問:「在哪裡?」你回答:「在膝蓋上。」然後,你必須用心電感應式的交流與那隻破希坦溝通, 無聲問它說: 「你是什麼東西?」破希坦可能回答你說:「香蕉。」於是你告訴聽析員「香蕉」。

有時候答案可能是「一張紙」之類的其他答案,反正你想到什麼就說什麼。聽析員得到答案後又說: 「好,告訴它 『你就是香蕉。』」也就是說,香蕉就是它的身分。於是你告訴破希坦它是一根香蕉,在這時它應該 就會走開了, 或是它想繼續留在那裡。 如果它在你問「你是什麼東西?」時沒有離開的話,你就問「你是誰?」然後你向破希坦收集了一大 串名字:那破 倫,凱薩大帝,約翰屈伏塔……你一一告訴聽析員,他告訴你哪個名字有讀數,那就是破希坦的身分 ,得到示意後 的破希坦就會離開,打走所有破希坦便完成OTV。



這一級又是破希坦跟破團塊!而且跟OTV的指令一樣,就是那兩項「你是什麼」還有「你是誰」, 但是自己親自 來做聽析的。



這個等級的正果(the end phenomenon) 是: 各式各樣的破希坦都不存在,沒有昏睡型的、沒有嗑藥的……什麼都沒有,其中一項是壓抑類型的破 希坦(sup pressive BTs) 。

打走破希坦的方法跟OTV和VI是一樣的,不相同的只是一手握雙鑵,破希坦走了儀表指針會浮的 。你身體上的 破希坦若是全走了,你的身體在你看來是半透明的。

有時候,你會遇到破希坦從你身上飄到大門旁邊,你必須想像出一把剪刀,剪掉他與你身體之間的連 線。有時候, 你會有層層重疊的破希坦,所以呢,你必須想像出一雙手來把他們揮掉。

這時你知道,整個宇宙也是破希坦,山達基目的是使整個宇宙消失,一個人怎樣努力也打不走所有破 希坦,所以要 地球所有人幫忙。因此阻礙山達基 的人必然要用任何手段消除,因為整個宇宙受到威脅,全地球,所有人億萬年的命運,決定於你現時 在這兒做什麼 。因此為甚麼羅恩賀伯特建立了監護人辦事處,把所有政府及敵對的社會轉為完全遵守山達基的規則 。

很多人獨自在房間內打破希坦,每日數小時,有十五年之久。這些人被剝奪了所有自己的感覺, 他們已經失去了責任感—事實上,失去所有與自己情緒的接觸,自己的想法,連自己的希望和願望。 它們已成為沉 溺於不負責任,生活於幻想世界的人。他們真正相 信一個怪誕的未來,其最終目標是山達基世界,這個世界上,每個不同意山達基的人將會靜靜地、沒 有悲傷地被除 去。



OTVIII有數個版本,菲什曼的被稱為「耶穌愛好男孩和男生」版,山達基律師初時指出這文件是侵權,即是 真正的,但後來改口說這是假的。

其它的版本與瑪麗亞口述的類似,裡面指出:「你編做了(mocked up)你自己的反應式心靈,你編做了你自己的破希坦,你編做了你自己的前生。」裡面包括羅恩賀伯特 的斷言( affirmation):「現在知道過去的我不是我,有興趣找尋真的我是誰。」

基本上,OTVIII 是要你照著 「人類歷史 」(History of Man)這本書裡的題目做聽析,一直從進化軌跡回到蛤蜊(clams)時代,因為人類是由蛤蜊進化成的 。你 必須要在時間軌跡裡一路做,回到蛤蜊時代為止,斷定過失行為(overt),然後找出破希坦。

你要用心電感應方式與破希坦溝通,找出它的過失、寫下來、然後用電儀表問破希坦:「這是你做的 嗎?」「這是 我做的嗎?」如果有讀到指數,你就示意那是誰的過失,使指針浮動,就這樣繼續做……結果你會幫 時間軌跡裡的 所有破希坦們清掉所有的過失。這就是所謂的真相大白。

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 14, 2012, 12:07:16 AM
                            Hollywood Blvd Stress Test Center a stressed out mess

See photo here....   Thu Apr 12, 2012

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 15, 2012, 10:28:19 PM
                                    Angry Gay Pope protests in Hollywood after 3+ year ban

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 16, 2012, 12:50:37 PM
                  huge water pipe under Gold Base?

                     SAN JACINTO: Tunnel photo mystery answered

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 17, 2012, 11:42:19 AM
           Sorry Brin, But Google’s The Main Actor Standing In The Way Of A Free And Open Web


Google Censors Search Results If You Have The Money To Pay A Lawyer For A DMCA Takedown

By this point, you might think we are flogging a dead horse, where the horse is Google’s continued censorship of the Internet. You’d be dead wrong. As it turns out, customers can pay money to have competition and negative commentary removed from Google. All you have to do is hire a good lawyer and file a DMCA takedown notice. That’s exactly what the Church of Scientology did in 2002, and Google caved quickly and removed the offending sites from its listings.

From F.A.C.T.n.e.t:

Andreas Heldal-Lund, webmaster of , got a DMCA [Digital Millenium Copyright Act] notification letter from Google earlier today. In the letter, a long list of URLs were listed as infringing, and Google apparently complied with the DMCA request by removing them.

The only problem was that the website mentioned Scientology. The result, Google took down and delisted a lot of the site’s content. We’re not lawyers, so we’re not exactly sure how Google could have been held responsible for listing content on another website, but delisting the site is exactly what they did. I’m not one for “hate speech,” but in a land that flaunts First Ammendment rights any chance it gets, it’s a little surprising that a company would pull down a site’s listing based on a DMCA request. You can see a list of links here: Again, not exactly the most free and open Internet on the planet, unless Brin means free and open unless it conflicts with Google’s corporate interests.

Sadly, this story doesn’t end there either. Google also closed down an adsense account for a website that was openly critical of Scientology, taking with it all of its earned revenue. Again, a stark contrast to the free and open Internet that Brin seems to be championing these days to news agencies the world over....................................

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 17, 2012, 11:52:56 AM
                               Google co-founder rips Hollywood on anti-piracy efforts

LOS ANGELES,(TheWrap) - Hollywood and the entertainment industry are "shooting themselves in the foot, or maybe worse than the foot" by pushing the current anti-piracy legislation, according to Google co-founder Sergey Brin.

He said the Stop Online Piracy Act and the Protect IP Act that Hollywood has been lobbying for would have led to the U.S. using the same technology and approach it has criticized China and Iran for using.

Brin made the comments in an exclusive interview with the U.K.'s Guardian newspaper.

The entertainment industry, he said, is failing to understand that users will continue to download pirated content as long as it is easier to acquire and use than legitimately obtained material.

"I haven't tried it for many years but when you go on a pirate website, you choose what you like, it downloads to the device of your choice and it will just work - and then when you have to jump through all these hoops (to buy legitimate content), the walls created are disincentives for people to buy."

Brin's criticism of Hollywood was part of an alarming portrait he painted of the current Internet landscape. He said that the principles of openness and universal access that fostered the creation of the Internet three decades ago are under greater threat than ever.

There are "very powerful forces that have lined up against the open internet on all sides and around the world. I am more worried than I have been in the's scary," Brin said.

He said the threat came from a combination of governments increasingly trying to control access by their citizens, the entertainment industry attempting to crack down on piracy and the rise of Facebook and Apple, which he said tightly control software on their platforms.

He said five years ago he did not believe China or any country could effectively restrict the Internet for long but he had been proven wrong.

"I thought there was no way to put the genie back in the bottle, but now it seems in certain areas the genie has been put back in the bottle," Brin said. He cited China, Saudi Arabia and Iran as the greatest threats.

He said that Facebook and Apple can stifle innovation and "Balkanize" the web with their proprietary platforms and controlled user access.

"There's a lot to be lost," he said. "For example all the information in apps - that data is not 'crawlable' by web crawlers. You can't search it."

Some will take Brin's comments on its rival Facebook, which has seen huge growth and now has more than 800 million members globally, with a grain of salt. The social network has announced plans for a $100 billion IPO.

Had Facebook existed, he and Google co-founder Larry Page could not have created Google, Brin said.

"You have to play by their rules, which are really restrictive. The kind of environment that we developed Google in, the reason that we were able to develop a search engine, is the web was so open. Once you get too many rules that will stifle innovation."

Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 02, 2012, 07:45:47 PM
                   Post by Angry gay pope

I was on the bus Sat. night from West Hollywood heading to a Silverlake gay bar for muscle slut night. I talked to the Gay guy next to me who said he lived just north of Santa Monica Boulevard near Big Blue.

He lamented how he hated the Sci's and their loud noisy events that disturb the neighborhood and their anti-neighbor policies. He was also sad that the Anonymous protests had petered out.

But he was glad of one thing. "I used to go on L. Ron Hubbard way and feel uncomfortable with all the cult zombies walking around. It's a convenient street when I want to make a U turn on Sunset. In the past two years though it has gotten MUCH quieter there and less busy. I've actually walked down that street now and felt unthreatened, like its just an ordinary street!"

When he was leaving he talked quietly and called Scientology "the S word." It's amazing how much fear they can inspire even with someone who is not a cultist and who just finished talking about how weak they are.

Reply by smurf

What is surreal about living on L. Ron Hubbard Way is that the non-Scilon residents leave & access their apartments through the back on New Hampshire Street to avoid the Scilons. I've spoken to several residents there who are happy of the high security presence in the area, but have been advised by Scilon guards that there peaceful co-existence with the cult is threatened, if they are seen talking to and/or associating with protesters.

Kathy ****, who rents rooms out of her home on LRH Way, had repeatedly been harassed & threatened by the cult, and she has very proactive in turning on them, going to the media, filing complaints with the LA City Council & meeting with the Mayor & Council President Eric Garcetti, which caused the cult a tremendous amount of butt hurt. The bicycle guard that threatened her, disappeared & hasn't been seen in years.

But, nowadays, she even avoids protesters when they show up.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 03, 2012, 08:06:51 AM
                              Xenophon may sue Malaysian newspaper
May 3, 2012

INDEPENDENT senator Nick Xenophon has been subjected to an extraordinary attack by a state-controlled Malaysian newspaper - publishing a 2009 speech in which he was critical of Scientology, but replacing references to that religion with the word ''Islam''.

The deception has left Senator Xenophon stunned following a visit to Malaysia at the weekend to observe protests aimed at the ruling party. He told the Herald last night the word switch was an example of the kind of dirty tricks the ruling party employs and had used against the opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim.

The article appeared in the New Straits Times and appears to be an attempt to discredit Senator Xenophon and Dr Anwar after the two met in recent days.

Headlined ''Anti-Islam Australian lawmaker comes under fire'', the article quotes from a 2009 speech the South Australian senator delivered in Parliament.

The article claims he said: ''Islam is not a religious organisation. It is a criminal organisation that hides behind its so-called religious beliefs.''

Hansard - the official record of the Australian Parliament - records his speech as: ''Scientology is not a religious organisation. It is a criminal organisation that hides behind its so-called religious beliefs.''

The press in Malaysia is often considered a mouthpiece of the ruling party that has controlled the country since independence. Senator Xenophon said he was seeking urgent legal advice to take the paper to court and wanted an immediate retraction.

Dr Anwar was sacked as deputy prime minister in the late 1990s and served a prison sentence for sodomy, only to be charged with the same offence again after his release in what appeared an effort to derail his political ambitions.

A Malaysian member of Parliament, Zahrain Mohamed Hashim, is quoted in the report saying Senator Xenophon was very outspoken against Islam and on lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender issues.

''Should we let someone like Xenophon influence our culture and moral values through politics? By confiding in Xenophon, is Anwar also supporting the LGBT movement?'' he said.

He said Dr Anwar should be challenged ''on why he sought Xenophon as a confidant, as clearly Xenophon stands against Islamic values''.

The New Straits Times refused to comment last night.

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Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 03, 2012, 11:36:44 PM
Malaysian Newspaper Apologizes for Statements Against Australian Senator

                     NST admits and regrets ‘anti-Islam’ report against Oz Senator

By Clara Chooi
The Malaysian Insider
May 03, 2012

Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 05, 2012, 07:31:36 AM
                            Legal action on NST by Aussie MP to continue 
Patrick Lee
 | May 4, 2012

Further checks have shown that the NST was not the only local newspaper to mislabel Nick Xenophon as 'anti-Islam'.

PETALING JAYA: Australian Senator Nick Xenophon will still go through with legal action against the New Straits Times (NST), despite the latter retracting an article labelling him as anti-Islam.

A spokesperson from Xenophon’s office in Adelaide confirmed this, saying: “He (Xenophon) is still considering his legal options.”

Previously, the Independent MP accused the NST of defaming him, after the newspaper quoted him as saying that Islam was not a religious, but rather a “criminal organisation”.

The NST added that the senator also voiced his support for same-sex marriages. Both were seemingly taken from a Nov 17, 2009 speech made in Australia’s Parliament.

This did not seem to be the case, after a check with the Australian Hansard. In his speech, Xenophon was actually referring to Scientology.

Nevertheless, this did not stop ex-PKR Bayan Baru MP (Independent) Zahrain Mohamed Hashim attacking Opposition Leader Anwar Ibrahim through Xenophon (a known associate of Anwar’s).

This angered Xenophon, who was recently here as part of a seven-man international fact-finding mission to investigate Malaysia’s electoral process and observe the Bersih 3.0 protests last Saturday.

He then threatened legal action against the NST, and intended to take the matter to both Australia and Malaysia’s courts.

The NST has since apologised for its mistake, calling it a “grave error” and duly retracted all the statements under its May 2 “Observer under scrutiny” article.

“We accept that in his speech in the Australian Parliament referred to in the article, Mr Xenophon did not use the word ‘Islam’,” the paper said.

It also removed the offending news story from its website with immediate effect.

A further check on local news websites showed that NST was not the only media agency to have labelled the senator as such.

In fact, the accusation against Xenophon appeared to have had its origins in an April 30 Utusan Malaysia article labelled “Senator anti-Islam pantau Bersih 3.0 (Anti-Islam Senator to observe Bersih 3.0)”.

A translated version of Xenophon’s 2009 speech, complete with the word switch from “Scientology” to “Islam” is still available on Utusan’s website (

It added that Xenophon was also a strong supporter of same-sex marriages, and that they should be accepted in Australia.

A May 3 Berita Harian column ( also labeled Xenophon as “anti-Islam”, and proceeded to attack Anwar from a LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender) standpoint.

In its article, the paper said: “The people want to know what Anwar’s stand is, because same-sex relationships cannot be looked at lightly, as it is against Islamic teachings.”

For his alleged part in the Sodomy I and II trials, Anwar has been long accused of being a homosexual, by both the mainstream media and various politicians.

                                “They Put Me At Risk” – Xenophon Sues!

Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 10, 2012, 01:27:38 PM
Member of Parliament of Malaysia, PUCHONG

                              Substitution case, AG must explain

I call upon the AG to explain why it is no action has been taken against anyone in the matter in which two daily newspapers allegedly substituted the word 'Scientology' with 'Islam' in an article involving an Australian Senator recently.

Needless to say, the substitution of the words was most serious in nature. It caused great embarrassment to Malaysia internationally.

And, more importantly, it caused severe damage to the Senator.

The article also to a great extent caused rife and dissatisfaction amongst Malaysians as it involved Islam, the official religion of the Federation.

The lack of action against those responsible is yet again another sign of weakness on part of the enforcement agencies and is unacceptable.

The law of this land makes it an offence for any printer, publisher, editor or writer to publish false news.

Section 8A of the Printing Presses and Publications Act 1984 for example, makes any person guilty of such offence liable on conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 3 years or to a fine not exceeding 20,000 or to both.

There are also other provisions under the Penal Code which may be applicable.

It is therefore in the public interest that action be taken against those responsible. If the AG has made a decision not to take action, then I call upon him to explain in full his reasons for so deciding.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 10, 2012, 01:44:30 PM
                     This Day in History--The Seeds of Scientology Are Sown

L. Ron Hubbard publishes "Dianetics."

Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 11, 2012, 07:52:01 PM
                     Scientologists push anti-drug classes in schools

Published: 11 May
                                Swedish news in English.

The anti-drug organization Drogfritt, which has ties to Scientology, has been selling lectures and information on drug abuse to Swedish schools, information that includes significant factual errors, according to an investigation carried out by newspaper Svenska Dagbladet (SvD).

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“It’s terrible when youngsters are being fed a lot of erroneous information,” said narcotics researcher Björn Johnsson to the paper.

During the lecture, the audience is told that dependency sets in from the first time someone tries a drug; that antidepressants, sleeping pills and paracetamol is stored in the body; and that people fall back into drug abuse through a so called “flashback”, when a drug “reawakens” in the body years or even decades after the person stopped using them.

But Swedish experts on drugs and drug abuse roundly repudiated the group's claims about how drugs interact with the body when approached by the paper.

“No, no, no, that’s not how it works. That’s a myth that circulates among certain drug users,” Johnson said about the "flashback" phenomenon.

One of the lecturers, Alexander Breeze, works with the lecture tours full time and talks to children, teenagers and parents about drugs, as well as at corporate events, holding some 250-300 lectures annually.

In interview with SvD, he made no secret of being a Scientologist.

However, according to Drogfritt, the organization is politically and religiously independent, but implement the Narconon prevention programme, which is based on Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard’s ideas.

And in 2003 the group's chairwoman, Åsa Graaf, was awarded the International association of Scientologists Freedom Medal for her work against drug abuse, according to SvD.

According to SvD’s investigation, 65 of Sweden’s 290 municipalities have purchased lecture series from the organization over the last three years to a value of 750,000 kronor ($108,000).

Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 18, 2012, 02:40:57 PM
                            Scientology Costly Backfires

"The purpose of the suit is to harass and discourage rather than to win. The law can be used very easily to harass, and enough harassment on somebody who is simply on the thin edge anyway, well knowing that he is not authorized, will generally be sufficient to cause his professional decease. If possible, of course, ruin him utterly." - L. Ron Hubbard 1955

"If attacked on some vulnerable point by anyone or anything or any organization, always find or manufacture enough threat against them to cause them to sue for peace." - L. Ron Hubbard 1960

The cult of Scientology seems to be missing an important factor concerning those whose integrity will not waver even in the face of threats and litigation onslaughts by high priced lawyers and thugs. Clearly, the fears from reprisals for speaking out are fading and being replaced with courage and tenacity as never experienced in the cult’s Office of Special Affairs (OSA). Accordingly, a new era is before them.

Beginning on January 1, 2012, Debbie Cook pushed the send button with attached email, to thousands of Scientology parishioners that caused the cult to react carelessly in the legal theater, suing for damages. When Cook testified in court, with details of being kept prisoner and tortured by having to stand in a plastic garbage can while water was poured over her head, the aggressive cult legal team scrambled for damage control. The church quickly dropped the law suit, but the expose hit loud and hard.

On February 12, 2012, France’s appeal court upheld and confirmed the convictions of the two Scientology organizations appealing their convictions for organized fraud – guilty. Again on May 16, 2012, the cult takes another blow after litigating for three years against the City of Reims.

In Canada, the Scientology Rehab, Narconon Trois-Rivieres, was shut down by health authorities following a lengthy investigation into the dangerous Scientology treatment regimes. According to five employees who spoke to the Trois-Rivières daily newspaper Le Nouvelliste on April 18, 2012, “the center's administration left much to be desired and sometimes even endangered the safety of certain residents and employees.”

One employee went on to say "Some of these cases weren't admissible to the program because it requires cutting off their medication. But the administration chose to keep them anyway. There were several instances of attempted suicide during the past few months. By law, immediate medical assistance should have been provided, but management decided to keep these persons without calling for an ambulance," says the former employee.”

"There were several times we didn't get paid on time. But they promised us all sorts of things. It was lie after lie. We weren't supposed to talk about it with each other, otherwise we risked getting fired," remembers Sylvie Houde.

According to the Heath Agency, Narconon practices were risky the center was ordered to cease its activities and to relocate the twenty-four residents who were there. Of the fifty-five criteria required for certification, the Quebec Accreditation Council identified forty-six deficiencies, twenty-six of them considered high-risk.

It appears Scientology’s efforts to intimidate victims by innuendo threats and legal pressure from expensive lawyers, are failing one domino after another and costing huge sums, not to mention the devastating consequences of bad public relations and press.

Although their financial war chest for litigation is huge, governments and negative public opinion, are taking their toll on a once feared organization. Front groups are under investigation and sinking; the Debbie Cooks’ are opposing cult leader David Miscavige, and Scientology Churches such as the one in Dublin, Ireland, are in financial crisis.

With 2012 not even at the half-way mark, this year’s “Storm-Winds” have the potential to shake them asunder.

David Love.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 18, 2012, 05:01:04 PM
                              Xenophon: I'll defend myself if charged over Bersih 3.0    18 May 12

EXCLUSIVE Australia Independent Senator Nick Xenophon will cooperate with the authorities if indeed he is investigated for breaking Malaysian laws by being at the Bersih 3.0 rally in Kuala Lumpur on April 28.

In a telephone interview with Malaysiakini , he said he would "not shy away" from any investigation under the Peaceful Assembly Act 2012.

"If there is any intention by the Malaysian authorities to charge me, I will freely come to Malaysia to defend myself," Xenophon said.

"I won't run away or shy away from this. I don't want to be stopped from coming to a country that I have enormous regard for."

However, he said, he has "not got wind" of any such investigation against him.

Xenophon was responding to a report in news portal The Mole noting that he should be investigated and charged under Section 4(2)(a) of the Peaceful Assembly Act, which prohibits non-citizens from taking part in assemblies.

However, the senator insists that he did not attend the mammoth rally for clean and fair polls as a participant but was acting as an observer, as part of an international fact-finding mission on the Malaysian electoral system.

"If the Malaysian authorities want to talk to me, I'd be happy to talk to them, but I thought it was a peaceful rally. As an observer, (I saw) things started to go wrong when tear gas was fired," he said.

Lawsuit still on

Xenophon added that the fact-finding mission hoped to complete its full report by the end of May, to complement its interim report presented on April 29.

The senator, who is in the "preliminary stages" of filing a lawsuit against Umno-owned dailies Utusan Malaysia and the New Straits Times ( NST ), added that he hoped the report would be received well by the government and the Election Commission.

Xenophon said he would file the lawsuit against the newspapers in both Australia and Malaysia, as their reports that portrayed him as "anti-Islam" had caused him "distress and damaged (his) reputation".

"Even though retractions have been published recently by the two newspapers, it never should have been published in the first place. It's incredible that these newspapers never bothered to check with me," he said.

NST and Utusan have issued apologies for misreporting his speech, in which the dailies replaced the word 'Scientology' in Xenophon's speech to the Australian Parliament with the word 'Islam'.

"The principal thing is that I have been accused of saying terrible things about Islam that I did not say. These are not views that I hold," he said.

He added that subsequent attacks alleging that he is a proponent of the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transsexual (LGBT) community was a "red herring" to distract the "anti-Islam" attack against him.

"I don't understand where they get that from... I don't believe we should discriminate against people," he said.

Gillard to hear about it

While he would not describe the treatment he received as an "ordeal", he said the "unfortunate" events had received the attention of the Australian media and his colleagues from both the government and the opposition.

"I propose to have a meeting with the Prime Minister (Julia Gillard) and (Foreign Minister) Senator Bob Carr... and I hope to raise this with the opposition as well," he said.

However, he believes that this will not sour the relationship between Australia and Malaysia.

"No, I understand the circumstances, but it doesn't change my views and my affection and respect for Malaysia and its people.

"The fact is I'm an Independent (senator)... I'm not there as a representative of the (Australian) government or the opposition. I made that very clear," he said.

Xenophon was part of a seven-person fact-finding mission on the electoral process who were in Malaysia upon the invitation of parliamentary Opposition Leader Anwar Ibrahim.

The delegation had met with Minister in the Prime Minister's Department Nazri Abdul Aziz, the Election Commission, BN, Pakatan Rakyat and Bersih.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 24, 2012, 07:57:10 AM
                            Victim of doctor's testicle-zap therapy says pain excruciating

CCHR gets a mention in this mornings herald.

Zapping a teenage boy on the testicles with an electric shock machine because he was considered naughty was an act far outside normal practice, a medical academic told police.

"In summary, Dr [Selwyn] Leeks' treatments appeared to depart significantly from the standards of the day," wrote Dr Garry Walter, professor of child and adolescent psychiatry at the University of Sydney.

"This was in the areas of his direct clinical care - including his method of use of electrical treatments, and his dubious reasons for some of those treatments - his level of supervision of staff ... and his documentation ... ."

Aucklander Paul Zentveld, aged 51, who was admitted to the now-closed Lake Alice Hospital near Wanganui five times as a teenager, said yesterday that he was one of several males at the child and adolescent unit who were punished by being given electro-convulsive "therapy" on their genitals.

Dr Leeks, who subsequently shifted to Melbourne, was in charge of the unit, which operated from 1972 to 1977.

Mr Zentveld said he was given ECT as punishment for bed-wetting, which was later attributed by a urologist to a medical condition.

Mr Zentveld said he was mistreated this way in eight sessions, each involving three separate shocks. It was done without anaesthetic.

"The pain was just excruciating."

He was speaking after the Herald revealed yesterday that the United Nations committee against torture asked the Government on May 7 to explain its response to complaints from former child and adolescent patients of Lake Alice.

It wants to know if there will be an independent assessment of the police investigation of complaints of child torture, which ended in 2009 without any prosecutions of former Lake Alice staff and without some of the complainants being interviewed by police.

Dr Leeks, who is in his early 80s, could not be reached for comment. He has previously denied wrongdoing at Lake Alice.

The police asked Professor Walter to comment on alleged mistreatment at Lake Alice.

His report was obtained under the Official Information Act by the Citizens Commission on Human Rights, which sent a copy to the UN committee.

Commenting on practices from the 1970s, Professor Walter said it was appropriate to treat children with ECT - after first administering anaesthetic and muscle relaxant medications and with the electrodes applied only to the head - for conditions including major depression.

Low-level electrical current had been used in "aversion therapy", to treat behaviour disorders, but ECT had never been medically approved for this purpose.

ECT via the genitals or knees would not produce a convulsion, the desired effect; might harm the affected part of the body; and might cause long-term psychological problems.

"Patients would regard this as a procedure whose primary purpose was to punish, rather than to treat."

The commission has called for the Government to reopen the police investigation.

Police have previously said there was no evidence of criminal offending.

The Justice Ministry has said the Government will respond to the committee.
By Martin Johnston

Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 24, 2012, 09:08:47 PM
                      Angry Gay Pope infiltrates Sterling Management..

    AngryGayPope contacted Sterling Management in Glendale pretending to be a pre-clear interested in their services. They replied with emails and this video..

Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 25, 2012, 08:45:26 AM
                    Diablo III Naming Policy Blocks Religious Character Names

A naming policy by Blizzard blocks players from taking on the name of Christ.

It's been reported (via Destructoid) that the recently released Diablo III has a naming policy for its characters, preventing players from naming their characters after religious figures.

Names like "Jesus" and "Antichrist" are disallowed, and so are the names of religions like "Hindu" and "Mormon". However, certain names, like "Scientology," "Catholic" and "Buddhism" appear not to be banned. For whatever reason, the naming policy seems selective, so if you plan to name your characters after a religious figure or a particular religion, you may find it to be a bit of a crapshoot.

Blizzard has yet to release a complete list of blocked names, but you can be certain that religion, like racial and sexist slurs, are not allowed as names in Diablo III or any other Blizzard title.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 29, 2012, 01:51:21 PM
             AGP protests cult while being punished for doing so

MAY 2012 - May marked the completion of my public service in Hollywood for my arrest in 2010 protesting the Delphi Academy Santa Monica. I had to complete 15 days of street sweeping, tree planting, rock breaking and graffiti removal. Do you know how many cigarette butts, bottle caps, dead pigeons, cigarette butts, needles, empty crystal meth packets, full crystal meth packets, cigarette butts, condoms, leaves, trash, cups, dirt, grit, paper, coat hangers, homeless people nests, cigarette butts, feathers, lunches, and homoerotic bar brochures I had to sweep up? A lot. I'm told another street sweeper who was a male model actually swept up homoerotic bar brochures with his own photo on them!

But I would do it all again to make sure the Delphi Academy got all the attention it deserved. Google "delphi academy santa monica" and my videos come right up on the first page. Search you tube for the same and everything that comes up first involves this protest. This gratifies me as public service is very tedious. You have to be there at 7 AM so various working class immigrants can yell at you with thick accents for eight and a half hours. It is like a real world version of the RPF, the Scientology gulag. Fortunately, compared to the RPF this public service is quite civilized. You work for four hours, have lunch, work for four more and go home. However, they made me eat at Jack In the Box ... twice! Shocking! I was appalled. But nowhere near rice and beans. Take that Tommy Davis missing person!

The people who are really in jail are the overseers. They also sweep and break rocks but their punishment never expires. Since no white people were overseers I assume they are paid little and don't get any benefits because they are contractors. Many of the prisoners had issues. One tattooed Latino guy constantly touched himself inappropriately and hit on every women who walked or drove by of any age. When they ignored him he would shout obscenities at them.

I told everyone who would listen about Scientology and why I was there. As a captive audience they were quite interested. Many people were there because of drunk driving offenses. Several of those men were involved in improv comedy. I don't know if that means comedians are all drunks. They told me improv is a lot like a cult. You all engage in groupthink, speak your own language and play off each other. It affects the way you think.

The cult may believe they punished me with community service but, in truth, constantly going in to Hollywood all day gave me a great opportunity to spy on them and a number of my posts over the past few months reflect this. Even better, I enturbulated Scientologists multiple times while being punished for doing so! That's because we often went over to Big Blue to sweep the streets. Imagine the surprise of Scientologists seeing some guy dressed like a paint covered bum brining up verboten topics. Once three Scientologists were walking to a fast food place on Vermont really close to Big Blue. I knew they were Sci's who serve the public as they were dressed like they work at a steak house. As they walked by I said "The Moscow org has been raided by the police!" They look at me surprised and nodded their heads with interest but, of course, kept right on walking.

A young male sea orger walked past me at Sunset and Vermont and I said "Is David Miscavige KSW? (Keeping Scientology Working?)" "Of course," he replied. "Then why are stats so low?" He hustled off the street real fast.

Best of all was when I was walking through the same intersection covered with paint spats and carrying my broom and dustpan. I saw two young blue shirted guys who looked suspiciously like Sea Orgers. I kept staring and them and noted their Sea Org belt buckles. They walked right up to me and asked "Can we ask you a few questions?" I said "Sure." "What do you think about abortion?" "I think abortion should be legal but rare." "What do you think about giving aid to Oolaboola land." "I never heard of that." "It's in Africa." "Oh, I replied, can we talk about how David Miscavige beats his staff?" "No we aren't here to talk about that."

This was too bad as a laid into them with rapid fire entheta. They got totally flustered and ran away as I shouted "I thought you wanted to talk!" Poor Scientologists!

My punishment is over but theirs continues unabated. For the next billion years I guess!

Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 29, 2012, 01:54:42 PM
                                Congrats Gregg and Bluewiggirl

Thread here....  Photos and details...

Post by: Ididntcomeback on June 04, 2012, 09:45:47 AM
                Australia's new domestic violence laws. Not good news for someone who disconnects.

    Have a close read of new domestic laws coming into effect this week in Australia - it's now domestic violence to prevent a person from contact with or cut people off from their family. I'd reckon they may feel a little ill in the HCOs of ANZO pretty soon.

New domestic violence laws target emotional abuse

Updated June 03, 2012 11:56:31
Related Story: Domestic violence costs $13bn a year
Map: Australia

New domestic violence laws will make it an offence to harm pets, cut people off from their family or withhold financial support.

The changes to the Family Law Act were passed in December but come into effect this week.

They expand the definition of domestic violence to more than just physical harm, such as denying a family member financial autonomy or the money required to meet reasonable living expenses.

The changes also include emotional abuse and preventing a person from maintaining contact with family, friends or their culture.

The Salvation Army's Major Andrew Craib says the changes recognise that it is not just physical acts of violence that can harm children.

"They might see a perpetrator constantly putting people down. Often people hear that enough and they begin to believe that for themselves and that's unacceptable in our society," he said.

Mr Craib also says the changes are a reflection of society's rejection of domestic violence.

He hopes the changes will encourage more victims to seek help.

"They're more likely to feel now that somebody has an understanding of the circumstances that they're putting up with," he said.

"I would hope that that gives them a bit of confidence and reassurance that people are actually going to hear them and believe them and that some action is going to come about that's going to bring both their safety and that of their children."

Post by: Ididntcomeback on June 05, 2012, 07:21:43 AM
                      Cult remodeling Christie Hotel on Hwd Blvd - will it reopen?

Photos and comments here...

Post by: Ididntcomeback on June 07, 2012, 08:04:05 AM
     Science fiction author, Ray Bradbury has died at age 96. Never a scientologist. But as a young man, he moved in similar circles to Hubbard.

                          Ray Bradbury and Clifton's Cafeteria: Death and Rebirth
By Garrett Snyder Wed., Jun. 6 2012

Post by: Ididntcomeback on June 18, 2012, 07:53:09 PM
                                    A look at some of the biggest Ponzi schemes

......"Reed Slatkin, co-founder of Earthlink Inc. and once a Scientology minister, was sentenced in 2003 to 14 years in prison for swindling investors out of about $240 million over 15 years. Groups affiliated with the Church of Scientology agreed to return millions received from his scheme."....

Post by: Ididntcomeback on June 20, 2012, 10:43:36 AM
                                                  Kumaré (2011)
84 min  -  Documentary

A documentary about a man who impersonates a wise Indian Guru and builds a following in Arizona. At the height of his popularity, the Guru Kumaré must reveal his true identity to his disciples and unveil his greatest teaching of all.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on June 25, 2012, 08:28:38 AM
                                           The Current State of Co$ finances

Post by: Ididntcomeback on June 30, 2012, 05:16:06 PM

                                    Scientology, the CIA & MK ULTRA

Published on 26 Jun 2012 by DesteniIsACult

L Ron Hubbard, a one time member of Aleister Crowely's Masonic OTO, is the founder of the Church of Scientology an insidious mind control cult links to the CIA MK ULTRA program. Why is it that Scientology escapes any scrutiny by Government Cult Awareness programs while the public is warned against innocuous health clubs focusing on natural foods and yoga which are labeled as dangerous.? Why is Scientology above the Law?

Post by: Ididntcomeback on July 15, 2012, 06:29:24 PM
IRS Scientology "Thirty Years War" - Village Voice Legal Expert Argues "Treaty" Is Unconstitutional

The Katie Holmes – Tom Cruise divorce has brought Scientology  into the news.  I read a lot more tax decisions than celebrity profiles, so the question that popped into my mind was why is it that I see so many references to Scientology in tax cases, but never seem to see any current decisions.  It turned out that there had been a “thirty years war” between Scientology and the IRS.  Those references that litter more contemporary cases might be analogized to shell holes, if you can forgive the anachronism, since there was probably not ordnance in the real Thirty Years War (1618-1648) that could produce really impressive shell holes.  The war ended in 1993 with a closing agreement.  Closing agreements are confidential, but this one was leaked.  My reading of it was that it seemed like a reasonable way to settle things.  Scott Pilutik, who is often cited by the Village Voice ,thinks I got it really wrong.  Here is what he has to say:

Spend a few hours googling “Scientology” and the questions will start piling up in your mind: How can a religion be so profitable? Why does it attract so many celebrities? Do they really believe that we’re all descended from an intergalactic overlord named Xenu?......

Post by: Ididntcomeback on July 16, 2012, 09:49:37 AM
                                                        Scientology at Comic-Con

Post by: Ididntcomeback on July 18, 2012, 08:27:53 AM
              Tour The Compound Where The Missing Wife Of Scientology's Leader Might Be Living

Jim Edwards   | Jul. 13, 2012,

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Post by: Ididntcomeback on July 22, 2012, 07:02:43 AM
OC Register Columnist David Whiting Gives Blowjob Review to New OC Church of Scientology

By Gustavo Arellano Sat., Jul. 21 2012

When Orange County Register columnist David Whiting wrote solely about the outdoors, he was entertaining, informative, and offered a valuable perspective to county readers. But as the Reg's main columnist, he's what Moxley accurately, hilariously refers to as a bootlicker--and he's being nice as to what part of the human anatomy Whiting likes to drag his tongue and hands across in the effort to please (or maim) his subjects.

His most infamous apologias center around the Fullerton police officers who beat Kelly Thomas to death (and the now-recalled councilmembers who loved them), but Whiting was more than happy to offer sloppy seconds yesterday to the Orange County Church of Scientology and their new Ideal Org in SanTana.

"While researching Scientology, I read allegations about heavy handed and controlling officials," Whiting said early in his review. "Perhaps. But consider..." and then went on to say how welcome he felt when visiting the Ideal Org, noting "even the lobby was pretty amazing."

"Perhaps"? That's like saying the Catholic Diocese of Orange might've allowed a bunch of child rapists minister in OC for decades, but look at the original retablo where Father Serra prayed!

Whiting's research for his article? A tour guide, a visit to Scientology's website, and a quick mention of the Los Angeles Times' masterful 1990 series which further exposed Xenu to mainstream America--which Whiting distorts by implying that the series stated humans are descended from aliens, which allows him to quickly cite the Scientology website that states "these scurrilous statements, issued by the 'Internet fringe,' are not only patently untrue, they are intentionally designed to ridicule Scientologists and denigrate their actual religious beliefs."

Slurp slurp! Actually, Davy, the story goes that Xenu bombed Earth, unleashing a mass killing whose souls (thetans) are now attached to us, and we need to get rid of them by enrolling in Scientology. Nowhere do critics say humans are descended from aliens--it's Scientology 100, pendejo. Hell, that's remedial Scientology for Dummies.

The column goes on like this--Whiting visits a "Purification Center" (a glorified gym), attends a service, and that's that. No mention of Josh's getting banned from the Ideal Org's grand opening. No mention of the many defectors and controversies over the years, many documented by my fellow wab, Village Voice editor Tony Ortega. Nope. Just a boring, meandering waste of time that, of course, was immediately praised by Scientologists in the Reg's comment section. A new generation of bootlickers for you to promote, Davy!

Post by: Ididntcomeback on July 24, 2012, 11:19:48 PM
                            Scientologists Plan On Distributing Church Pamphlets At London Olympics

The Church of Scientology plans to distribute L. Ron Hubbard's 1980 booklet, The Way to Happiness, to the more than six-and-a-half million people that will be in London for the upcoming Olympics, is reporting.

According to a fundraising letter sent out by the Church, "this year the Olympic Games are going to be held in London, England -- starting 27th July, ending on 12th August. There will be an estimated 6.5 million people in attendance from over 200 nations...To achieve the same effects in London, introducing L. Ron Hubbard’s Tech to millions and creating calm, donations are needed for bundles of The Way to Happiness, which in turn will be handed out during the Olympics."

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The letter is seeking donations to ensure that more than 2 million copies of the pamphlet are distributed. The controversial religion takes responsibility for the World Cup in South Africa for being the least violent ever because, "copies of the Way to Happiness booklet were distributed throughout the crowds resulting in it being proclaimed as the least violent World Cup ever." According to the letter, "'All you have to do is keep that booklet flowing in the society. Like gentle oil spread upon the raging sea, the calm will flow outward and outward.' – LRH, from Ron’s Journal 33."

"Staff and public volunteers are being mobilized right now and will be in prominent locations around the Olympic events passing out The Way to Happiness to everyone," the letter states. The minimum donation is $100 for 60 booklets.

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The letter was published on Ex-Scientologist Marty Rathbun's blog.


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Post by: Ididntcomeback on July 25, 2012, 08:34:43 PM

                                     SP Party 2012 at Xenu Cafe

PHOTOS               23rd July 2012

Post by: Ididntcomeback on July 26, 2012, 01:10:04 AM
                Former Squirrel Buster Bert Leahy speaking out..

Video and photos

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 03, 2012, 11:35:31 AM
                Stephen Baldwin: 'Scientology Is Much More Accepted In Hollywood Than Jesus'

Posted: 08/02/2012

Stephen Baldwin has been very outspoken about his faith, something he says has without doubt cost him many acting roles.

“When you talk about subjects like abortions and rape, you are hitting hot buttons,” Baldwin said. “It’s challenging people to ask themselves, what would you do in a certain situation? I’ve run my mouth pretty good about my beliefs. I can’t say if someone murdered my family members, I wouldn’t seek revenge.”

A self-confessed "Jesus freak," Baldwin says his life changed forever after he decided to live it in a way he believes to be consistent with the Bible's teachings, even though he argues Hollywood has punished him for being so vocal.

“Scientology is much more accepted in Hollywood than Jesus,” he tells me. "If you just look at Tom Cruise’s career against Kirk Cameron, you can see it. Piers Morgan is a punk setting Kirk up with that question. No one ever asks Tom Cruise questions like that.”

Baldwin says that he doesn’t change his views when he’s around his family and jokes that they all tell him to shut up until one of them has a problem, and then they are the first to ask him to pray.

Fittingly, Baldwin new film “Loving The Bad Man,” which is available now on DVD, explores themes of spirituality.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 07, 2012, 11:31:45 PM
                            Group with Scientology ties tutoring kids in Colorado public schools
Posted:   08/07/2012

By Eric Gorski
                                                       The Denver Post

Six years ago, a group called Applied Scholastics International won state approval to tutor low-income students from struggling public schools.

The group touts its so-called study technology as "the breakthrough that undercuts why people are illiterate."

The materials were developed by "educator and humanitarian" L. Ron Hubbard, the group explained in its application to the Colorado Department of Education.

Hubbard is better known as a science-fiction writer who went on to found the Church of Scientology.

Since 2008, three Colorado public school districts have given more than $150,000 in federal money to Applied Scholastics to provide tutoring to nearly 120 students, a Denver Post review found.

Students from the Denver, Jefferson County and Aurora public school districts received tutoring from the group.

Jeanette Banks, executive director of A Plus Educational Center in Lakewood, which provides tutoring in Colorado under the Applied Scholastics name, said the content is secular.

She said the group has no relationship with the Church of Scientology and does not promote any religious path.

But critics question the material's worth or characterize it as an attempt to indoctrinate children and lend credibility to a fringe religion.

The organization is at risk of being removed from the state's list of approved tutoring providers but not because of any ties to Scientology.

The state's most recent annual review of all providers found that Applied Scholastics failed to be effective in increasing student performance. The group was put on notice that if that happens again, it will no longer be eligible to take part in the program.

Applied Scholastics International says it tutored children through government-backed programs in a dozen states last school year, up from four in 2006.

In response to questions from The Post about the group's connections with Scientology, the state Education Department also will begin monitoring the program to make sure it is following protocol, said Nazanin Mohajeri-Nelson, a department program evaluator.

"The program as it's described in the application does not appear to be religiously driven, but what's actually being implemented is the part we need to investigate," Mohajeri-Nelson said.

Paid with federal funds

As part of the No Child Left Behind Act of 2001, schools missing certain benchmarks must offer free tutoring to eligible children from providers approved by the state and selected by parents.

Districts use federal Title I money to cover the costs. Religious groups are eligible to participate in Colorado, but all instruction must be "secular, neutral and non-ideological."

Applied Scholastics' 2006 application to the state includes testimonials from public- and private-school officials, proposed reading passages and a cover letter identifying the group's advisory board — including movie star and prominent Scientologist Tom Cruise.

The state approved the group's application to provide math and reading tutoring in 2006, then reapproved the group in 2010.

Mohajeri-Nelson said a committee reviewed the application and concluded that the material met standards and appeared secular.

Theory criticized

In its most recent application, Applied Scholastics proposed working with students in kindergarten through eighth grade individually and in small groups, charging $45 an hour per student — about average for providers, records show.

Student activities include standard approaches — such as flash cards and using dictionaries — and more unusual tactics such as modeling in clay to better visualize subjects.

Hubbard identified three "barriers to study," including a "lack of mass," or the absence of the actual object described by a word. Students as a result tend to feel "squashed, bent, sort of spinny, sort of dead, or bored," Applied Scholastics teaches.

Ben Kirshner, an associate professor at the University of Colorado School of Education, said Hubbard's theory about barriers to study has no scientific or empirical foundation.

The theories range from common sense to "stranger claims about what happens physiologically when one is confused," said Kirshner, who reviewed Applied Scholastics material at The Post's request.

He also said evidence of student growth provided by the group does not appear to have been compiled by an independent entity or have any record of publication or peer review.

According to its most recent tax forms, St. Louis-based Applied Scholastics International took in about $1.3 million in revenue in 2010 from its education and literacy programs.

The group reported working with 248 public schools — a significant increase over the previous year's 74.

Calls to the organization were not returned.

Banks, of the Denver-area Applied Scholastics center, declined an interview request but agreed to answer questions by e-mail.

She said Applied Scholastics has tutored 118 students since 2006 — local districts reported 116 — and is "delivering the program exactly as it was approved by the state of Colorado."

Banks pointed to Applied Scholastics literature calling Hubbard's approach, developed in the 1960s, "a wholly secular technology for use by any person in any field."

The Church of Scientology and its members "have been extremely assistive" to Applied Scholastics, the group says. Banks, a Scientologist, said three of the group's 13 tutors in Colorado are church members.

"Legitimizing" church

David Touretzky, a Carnegie Mellon University research professor who has written critically of Scientology, describes study technology as covert religious instruction.

He said terms in the tutoring also are found in Scientology, including "misunderstood words." Hubbard taught that failing to grasp the meaning of one word in a passage can completely upend learning, causing students to feel "blank" or "washed out."

"They are setting the stage for kids to be good little compliant Scientologists," Touretzky said. "The whole point is to get to where they can say, 'Look, the state of Colorado is paying us to use Scientology tech.' It's all about legitimizing Hubbard and the church."

Banks said such critics "do not understand the first thing about study technology."

State OKs providers

Compared with other tutoring groups in Colorado, Applied Scholastics is a minor player. More than 8,100 students received tutoring in 2009-10 — and only 25 used Applied Scholastics, records show.

Aurora Public Schools — which has paid Applied Scholastics $81,434 to tutor 61 students since 2008 — was unaware of the group's ties to Scientology, district spokeswoman Paula Hans said.

On-site coordinators monitor all tutoring, she said.

Hans, like officials at the other districts with an Applied Scholastics presence, emphasized that the state, not districts, approves providers.

None of the districts reported any concerns from parents about the program.

Under federal guidelines, states also must measure the effectiveness of tutoring programs and cut off groups found to be failing for two straight years.

For a period, Applied Scholastics did not tutor enough children to make an assessment possible, said Mohajeri-Nelson, the program evaluator.

But the numbers were large enough to conduct a review in 2010-11. It found Applied Scholastics students did not improve in reading or math as much as a comparison group of students.

On July 17, the state notified Applied Scholastics it would be removed from the program if next year's review finds similar results.

The state's additional monitoring of Applied Scholastics will involve interviewing the group, tutors and district officials, Mohajeri-Nelson said.

The organization will need to reapply in December if it wishes to continue to provide tutoring in the program.

Scientologists' community involvement was spotlighted in June at the grand opening of a high-profile new church in downtown Denver.

The church long has been controversial, criticized as a moneymaking scheme that exerts excessive control.

Banks said Applied Scholastics' study technology has a sole purpose: teaching people how to learn.

Eric Gorski: 303-954-1971, or

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Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 10, 2012, 08:29:06 AM
        Daily Dot | How Scientology Resembles A Broken Role-playing Game

 Over the past decade, Scientology’s bizarre belief systems have become a matter of public record. Given all the controversy and pop culture jokes, it can be difficult to come up with a frame of reference to understand why the controversial organization has managed to survive for so long. (L. Ron Hubbard wrote the group’s cornerstone text, Dianetics, in 1950.)

Oddly enough, in several ways, the closest system Scientology approaches is that of a broken role-playing game.


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A role-playing game, or RPG, is a game where players pretend to be someone else. RPGs come in many forms: “tabletop RPGs” like Dungeons and Dragons (D&D), daily private role-playing, or nightly massively multiplayer online role-playing games (MMORPGs). There’s even the occasional RP party in online chats like Omegle. Like any other healthy social system, the best RPGs teach creativity, teamwork, and discipline.

Very rarely, however, an RPG can spiral out of control, leaving participants emotionally shaken and prone to mistaking what’s fantasy and what’s real.

In a two-part series, the Daily Dot takes a look at the things Scientology has in common with RPGs.

1) There’s a script for it

One of the core tenets of Scientology is the practice of dianetic auditing. Scientology’s own website describes auditing as “the process of asking specifically worded questions designed to help one find and handle areas of distress.” What they don’t tell you is that this is only basic Scientology. At the upper levels, or “OT” levels, Scientologists literally re-enact scenes from the moment when Emperor Xenu dropped an H-bomb into a volcano, scattering billions of alien souls into the cosmos.

The scenes are scripted and come complete with sound effects, as you can see from this excerpt from a 1981 Scientology text:



3. PLACEMENT ON/IN VOLCANO (See list attached)





8. BEGINNING IMPLANT (Not 36 days)

9. PILOT SAYS I'M MOCKING IT UP or 'YOU'RE MOCKING IT UP." (Stop here don't go any further)

According to Scientologists, the result of this role-play session is “a sort of superhuman independence from the physical universe.”

Nearly all RPGs use similar general outlines for gameplay.

“Often players go a session knowing how things are going to go in general, and then play it out in an ephemeral real-time medium,” an anonymous member of an online journal-based RPG explained to the Dot.

Whether they’re informal online planning sessions or published information, like the kind put out by Wizards of the Coast for D&D aficionados, RPGs use planned outlines before a dramatization in precisely the way Scientology uses scripts to help its members “relive” pivotal moments of Hubbard’s created history.

2) One body, many spirits

Role-playing appeals to people who like to pretend they’re someone else for a while, whether they’re actors or everyday would-be heros. At a basic level, RPGs ask you to spend a bit of time pretending to be a fictional character.

Rarely, we find groups of people who spend the vast majority of their time either role-playing as other characters or actually living in the belief that they are other characters. Perhaps the best known example of this belief system is Otherkin, which, while not a religion of its own, does have some religious overtones. Similar are those who practice Multiplicity (sometimes called Plurality), many of whom have been diagnosed with Dissociative Identity Disorder, who seek to gain wider acceptance and legitimacy for their belief that they inhabit multiple personas.

Where things get tricky is when some of those personas turn out to be fictional characters from novels, anime, or movies—often known as Otakukin or as Fictives. It can be hard to draw a clear line between role-playing a fictional character and believing a fictional character has taken over your body as a Fictive.

One person who knows this all too well is Abbey Stone, who for years was the victim of an RPG-turned-cult. Last year, Stone wrote about her experiences in an attempt to warn potential new victims about the cult’s figurehead, Andrew Blake, previously known as Jordan Wood.

Stone details years spent interacting with fictional characters from The Lord of the Rings (and some of the film's actors, too), all of whom Wood believed were real people inhabiting another plane of reality.

Stone describes how each Lord of the Rings persona that she and Wood’s other victims encountered while channeling had some kind of pain that had to be processed so that they could heal and move on. Note: This has nothing to do with the real Orlando Bloom.

    “We helped Pippin (Raz) and Merry (Kali) come to terms with the rest of their post-quest lives, and from the curse that had tormented them for the next 6000 years....And Andy [Blake] came – that is, now he was the duplicate soul of Orlando Bloom, who also had a history full of abuse and unprocessed pain. We had to ‘help’ him too.”

Jordan Wood’s mini-cult was remarkably similar in practice to Scientology, which also posits that every human is full of alien souls, termed “thetans,” which Scientology seeks to identify, heal, and purge. The idea of multiple souls in one body is not unique to Scientology—many world religions espouse the idea, and Otherkin and Multiples believe in the concept of walk-ins, or other souls who essentially pop in for a visit now and again.

But the belief in fictional identities that need to be prioritized above one’s own well-being, purged, and set free at all costs? That is something uniquely cult-like.

Stone’s incredible story has an equally incredible climax: Wood forcing her to abandon her belongings and walk from Buffalo, N.Y., to the Canadian border in the middle of winter. Explains Stone, “He had a character who was a Mountie who explained how very, very easy it was to seek political asylum in Canada.”

Stone escaped. Wood, now going by Andrew Blake, went on to become involved in a triple murder-suicide. A source close to the subject alleges that he is currently working at a Protestant church camp in the Northwestern U.S.

Stone experienced firsthand the ways in which a cult mentality can grow out of intense situations where reality becomes blurred. Scientology has been capitalizing on such situations for decades.

Tomorrow, the Daily Dot examines two more traits Scientology and RPGs have in common.

Photo via RedPeas/Flickr

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 10, 2012, 07:20:08 PM

                                          CHURCH TIMES

                                      Schools alert on drugs group

by Margaret Holness, Education Correspondent

Posted: 10 Aug 2012

THE 149 Church of England schools in the diocese of London will be warned next term to shun offers from the anti-drugs rehabilitation group Narconon to give lessons about drug abuse to pupils.

The action follows a complaint made to the media by the parent of a recent pupil of St Jude's and St Paul's Primary School, Newington Green, north London, who discovered that Narconon, which had been responsible for a Year 6 anti-drugs project, has connections with the Scientology ...

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 11, 2012, 09:17:39 AM
                                 Church of Scientology renews pledge to restore Alexandra Hotel

Boston Business Journal by Thomas Grillo, Real Estate Editor
Date: Friday, August 10, 2012,

Renovation of the blighted former Alexandra Hotel in Boston could finally get underway by spring, 
Photo by W. Marc Bernsau.

Renovation of the blighted former Alexandra Hotel in Boston could finally get underway by spring, 


Restoration of the blighted former Alexandra Hotel at the edge of Boston’s Roxbury and South End neighborhoods could finally get underway by spring.

Four years after the Church of Scientology bought the dilapidated five-story red and buff-colored sandstone building at Washington Street and Massachusetts Avenue with the dream of restoring it, the church says the delay to transform the 137-year-old landmark into its headquarters is nearly over.

“We are much closer to getting this project off the ground than ever before,” said Kevin Hall, a church spokesman.

In 2008, the church paid $4.5 million for the property. But the cost to restore the landmark was estimated at $17 million. To come up with the cash, the church listed its 27,765-square-foot headquarters on Beacon Street in the Back Bay for sale at $12.5 million in 2010. But the Richardsonian Romanesque-style mansion brought offers that were far short of the asking price, Hall said. Today, he said, the real estate market is hot and the church has several interested buyers.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 13, 2012, 09:04:07 AM
                                  FORBES MAGAZINE

                               Did Mormons Benefit From The IRS Scientology Deal ?

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 16, 2012, 05:23:31 PM
              Leader Of Controversial 'Moonies' Cult Hospitalized; In Critical Condition

Posted on Aug 15, 2012

By Debbie Emery - Radar Reporter

Unification Church founder, Reverend Sun Myung Moon, better known as the man who founded the 'Moonies,' is in intensive care suffering from severe pneumonia, is reporting.

The leader of the controversial religion was rushed to the Catholic University’s St. Mary’s Hospital in Seoul, South Korea, on Monday where he remains in critical condition with severe breathing problems, reported the Korea Herald.

Moon founded the Unification Church in Korea in 1952 and has built it into a worldwide religious organization claiming up to 7 million believers. The church extols Moon as the “True Parent of Mankind” and “the King of all Kings," and if he dies power will be handed down to his sons, Hyung Jin and Kook Jin.

PHOTOS: Couples Wed In Mass Moon Wedding

When his children take over leadership, some fear that the cult's unbridled strength will increase. "Most will think it is over when Sun Myung Moon dies but it won't be," a Moonie expert revealed to Radar. "It has the potential to be much, much worse.

"These are power hungry people. The Moon kids now in charge have shown they can rationalize and lie about anything then make themselves believe what they say is God's will.

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"Members have never known or understood where Moon was leading them. They just follow blindly and say 'true love' or 'One family under God' if asked," he claimed.

During the 1970s Reverend Moon’s church became notorious around the world amidst accusations of brainwashing and aggressive recruitment techniques, the movement caused outrage when followers were matched to total strangers and then married at mass weddings.

The term ‘Moonie’ is now deemed derogatory by many members of the movement, but suspicion from the outside world remains. Through mass weddings, Moon claimed to be purifying his newlywed followers in creating a new race of sinless children. Now in their twenties, those children are preparing to be blessed in a mass wedding of their own.

PHOTOS: Hollywood’s Dirtiest Divorces

As previously reported, the lifestyle of modern Moonies was recently spotlighted in a TLC reality show Mass Moon Wedding, which went behind the scenes of the movement by following three young couples as they travel thousands of miles to South Korea to be blessed by their messiah at one of the movement's controversial mass weddings, where 2,000 couples are wed at once.

Born in Jeongju, North Pyeongan Province in North Korea in 1920, it is claimed Moon has carried out activities for the reunification of Korea and democracy and freedom across the world.

Along with his self-made religion, Sun Myung is also a conservative media mogul and his church runs both the Washington Times and the Segye Times in Korea.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 17, 2012, 07:56:59 AM
                             The Final Fall - Scientology and the Nation of Islam

Farrakhan’s Mix of Allah, Jesus and Xenu - New Book by Journalist Leila Wills

New York, NY, August 15, 2012 --( Journalist Leila Wills, author of Farrakhan, The Movie, has been researching the life of Louis Farrakhan for ten years and documenting the shocking “marriage” between the Nation of Islam (NOI) and the Church of Scientology (COS). Scheduled for release in late September, The Final Fall gives a thorough and all-encompassing report on the previously inconceivable and bizarre merge of these two controversial groups.

In 2009, Louis Farrakhan announced this marriage and his critics have become increasingly vocal. On July 2, 2012, Farrakhan publicly addressed the merge for the first time and said he was not upset by his critics and that he loves black people unconditionally. He went on to compare Scientology’s central practice of auditing as the equivalent of learning a new skill. He also dismissed the claims of L. Ron Hubbard being a racist by saying, “He’s gone on now. If he was a racist, it went in the ground.”

Some members of the Nation of Islam have left the organization because of this alliance while others have stayed emphasizing their trust in Farrakhan’s leadership and the benefit they have received from auditing. Leila says, “Minister Farrakhan has refashioned his group and I have interviews with current and former members. The fall-out within the Nation and even the fall-out within the larger black community is significant.”

She goes on to say, “It’s easy for people to dismiss the Nation of Islam because of their theology, however, millions of blacks have gone through their doors since it began eighty-two years ago. The Nation of Islam has a constitution and a program that are to be followed no matter who sits in leadership. Many feel that Minister Farrakhan did not have the right to make this alliance with Scientology without changing the name of his group. The book is a detailed case-study chronicling Minister Farrakhan’s relationship with the COS dating back to the mid-seventies.”

Journalist Leila Wills has been researching and documenting the Nation of Islam for over ten years. She is the author of Farrakhan, The Movie, former editor of the Metropolis newspaper in Chicago, and has worked for several media companies in New York, Los Angeles, and Chicago. Farrakhan, The Movie is available on Amazon For more information, visit

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 20, 2012, 08:32:37 AM
                     2 Big Scientology Tattoo's in the neck... He is going to regret that one!


Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 22, 2012, 06:41:59 PM

A parody game for 2-5 players based on Scientology and Monopoly. Details at The purpose of the game is to be the first to achieve a particular status, paid for on credit, without going bankrupt before the other players do. This is designed to be remarkably similar to real-life Scientology for many.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 26, 2012, 07:21:06 PM
                        Protest of Celebrity Centre 43rd Anniversary Gala, Hollywood, 8/25..

    Amazing how 6 people can make a bunch of Scilon guards go nuts...

Video...Commentary... photo

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 27, 2012, 07:34:47 AM
                                              Scientologists for Ron Paul


Post by: Ididntcomeback on September 01, 2012, 02:44:05 PM
                    Theresa Duncan And Jeremy Blake, The Suicides That 'Launched A Thousand Blogs'

.......Theories linking the suicides to Scientology (and, in one case, the CIA) continue to circulate, and a sense of disbelief remains among even those more willing to accept the prevailing narrative, however incomplete, at face value.......

Post by: Ididntcomeback on September 03, 2012, 07:11:33 PM
                                   Sun Myung Moon dead at 92

    This article is a bit deferential to the creep, but gives relevant info about his death.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on September 05, 2012, 12:00:56 AM
        Telegraph, Gaurdian and Yahoo News: Scientologist Author fakes his own reviews

Post by the author of "The Complex." John Duignan

Post by: Ididntcomeback on September 21, 2012, 05:56:26 PM
                          Here is the Scoop ~ Scientology Stats Straight Down and Horizontal!

See the graph...!

Post by: Ididntcomeback on September 25, 2012, 05:19:43 PM
        City of Chicago Tells Org to Either Get it Together or Sell Their Building

In the injunction at this link:

Chicago tells the C of S IL to bring the subject premises into full compliance with the Municipal Code of the City of Chicago or sell the subject premises by 8/1/2013

They are apparently in violation of the city codes having to do with vacant buildings. Link here:

I am actually surprised it took the city this long to fine them or to do anything at all. This basically puts them on notice. I am not sure how lenient they are about the dates they give but the long and the short of is that the "do no wrong, upstat Ideal org" is sitting idle and causing a nuisance and their "hurry, hurry, hurry" attitude to get rid of all the tenants, etc. was a sad joke.

I am sure this kind of thing is happening all over the place. (Broad generality and so what, it's true - lol) Here is the Chicago Ideal Org:

Photos and links...

Post by: Ididntcomeback on September 29, 2012, 09:08:45 AM
Scientology: We’re Growing At Record Pace Despite ‘Lies’ About Tom Cruise And His Divorce

Despite months of scandal stemming from Tom Cruise's divorce with Katie Holmes, the Church of Scientology claims it's experiencing record growth as a result of the extensive media coverage, including a tell-all piece in Vanity Fair the church condemned as "lies" told by bitter ex-members desperate for attention.

Church spokesperson Karin Pouw told The Hollywood Reporter that “more people have accessed our websites and come in to our Churches over the summer than ever in our history," adding the media blitz has increased the amount of "people wanting to get accurate information about Scientology for themselves.”

PHOTOS: Tom Cruise And Katie Holmes’ Relationship Through The Years

And in a revelation that could rock the church to its very foundation, many former members claim leader David Miscavige often speaks disparagingly of Cruise, using files containing inside info gleaned from its controversial auditing process. (The church has publicly denied any files exist, or that Miscavige made negative comments about Cruise.)

Ex-member Claire Headley said that eight years ago, Cruise failed a biannual "security check" test, which is a hybrid of interrogation and counseling to determine the person's ethics and ideals line up with the church's. The fallout included a special meeting Miscavige convened, in which he was discussing topics (designated as confidential) such as Cruise's relationship with one of his children.

PHOTOS: Tom Cruise Pictured In Iceland After Katie Holmes’ Divorce Filing

Headley said she personally saw Miscavige down-talk the Top Gun star, citing information directly acquired from the supposedly secret auditing process. She added he often did it with his "buddy in-crowd" of top-ranking church officials in his officer's lounge at the church's central base. She added that alcohol was consumed by Miscavige on some of the occasions he badmouthed the church's brightest star.

“Miscavige doesn’t give a damn about Cruise,” former Scientologist Tom DeVocht told THR. "I was there, I saw it."

PHOTOS: Hollywood Stars Who Are Scientologists

In response, church spokesperson Pouw shot down the assertions, adding Miscavige is "close friends" with Cruise, and that he "treats all parishioners and friends with respect, dignity, compassion and loyalty."

DeVocht recalled an incident at the 2001 premiere of Cruise's Vanilla Sky, which co-starred (fellow Scientologist) Jason Lee and Tom's romantic interest at the time, Penelope Cruz.

PHOTOS: The Many Homes Of Tom Cruise And Katie Holmes

DeVocht said that night, “As soon as Tom was out of earshot, Miscavige started putting him down” and predicted his romance with Cruz would fizzle because she had failed to make eye contact with him.

Pouw countered that "neither [Miscavige] nor the Church ‘approve’ or ‘disapprove’ of individual parishioners' relationships."

PHOTOS: Tom Cruise Through The Years

Former church spokesman Mike Rinder predicted if Cruise learned of all the things Miscavige has said about him, "He’d turn on Miscavige like a rabid dog.”

Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 02, 2012, 06:02:43 PM
                                             Business complaints filed in Pinellas County

    A friend sent an e-mail with this data.

    This was copied from the Circuit Court of Pinella County. Under business complaints.

    Notice that the cases are settled very fast!

    Business Name Address City, State Date Received Date

    04/30/10 05/11/10 Resolved-Refund Church Of Scientology 118 North Fort Harrison Avenue Clearwater, FL

    06/16/11 09/02/11 Resolved-Refund Church Of Scientology 118 North Fort Harrison Avenue Clearwater, FL

    09/30/10 10/25/10 Civil Church of Scientology 503 Cleveland Street Clearwater, FL

    02/07/11 02/18/11 Civil Church of Scientology 503 Cleveland Street Clearwater, FL

    11/29/11 12/13/11 Civil Church of Scientology 503 Cleveland Street Clearwater, FL

    10/26/11 11/03/11 Civil Church of Scientology 503 Cleveland Street Clearwater, FL

    02/27/12 03/21/12 Civil Church of Scientology Flag Service Organization 503 Cleveland Street Clearwater, FL

    08/30/11 09/23/11 Civil Church of Scientology Flag Service Organization 505 Cleveland Street Clearwater, FL

    05/02/11 05/12/11 Civil Church of Scientology Flag Service Organization 505 Cleveland Street Clearwater, FL

    08/28/12 Church of Scientology Flag Service Organization P O Box 31751 Tampa, FL

    04/27/11 05/10/11 Civil Church of Scientology Freewinds 210 S. Fort Harrison Clearwater, FL

    02/08/11 02/24/11 Civil Church Of Scientology 118 North Fort Harrison Avenue Clearwater, FL

    The Florida Better Business Bureau site reports:

    The Church of Scientology, Clearwater, Florida
    04/13/2012Problems with Product / Service
    04/10/2012Problems with Product / Service
    04/03/2012Problems with Product / Service
    05/10/2011Delivery Issues
    02/10/2011Advertising / Sales Issues
    03/24/2010Advertising / Sales Issues
    11/18/2009Problems with Product / Service

    10 complaints closed with BBB in last 3 years | 4 closed in last 12 months

    This Business is not BBB Accredited

    Church of Scientology Flag Service Organization, Inc.

    Phone: (727) 461-1282

    It is picking up momentum. Look for a slew of lawsuits to hit the stands soon!! Tick Tock Tick Tock!

    No longer will anyone fear the Church of Miscavology! People are leaving in droves, asking for refunds, not coming in, no new public, lawsuits flying, attorney's not scared, media reporting everyday about the criminals in Scientology!

    The time is coming very soon where everyone will sue the Co$ - for refunds, fraud, extortion, bribery and human trafficking.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 04, 2012, 05:38:30 PM
                                  Johnny Lewis and Scientology's Criminal Behavior

In L. Ron Hubbard World, trouble is normal because money is God.

As I write this article, actor Johnny Lewis is ranked #1 on the STARmeter on the Internet Movie Database Pro version. At #2 is Joseph Gordon-Levitt, currently appearing in #1 the movie Looper with Bruce Willis (who is ranked #19 on the STARmeter).

Unfortunately, the ranking won't help his career, because Johnny Lewis is dead, at age 28.

Lewis died on September 26, 2012 in Los Feliz, California, after terrorizing neighbors, apparently murdering his landlady, 81-year-old Catherine Davis, and mutilating her cat. For days, the news was about Lewis's descent from working actor who dated music superstar Katy Perry to criminal with a continuing drug problem. Then actor Taylor Negron wrote an article describing Davis and how she was beloved in the Hollywood community and suddenly it became clear that Lewis's victim was a beloved Hollywood legend.

Shortly thereafter, ABC News did a report that stated Los Angeles police suspected the street drug 2C-I—known as "smiles"—was to blame. I knew better. I knew it was all Scientology.

Tom Cruise, the most prominent Hollywood Scientologist, whose divorce from his third wife has been a personal public relations nightmare for months, must have cringed when he found out about the Lewis debacle. After all, Cruise's next movie is entitled All You Need Is Kill.

The Hollywood community can be astonishingly interconnected. I met Taylor Negron in the 1980s, when he appeared every Monday night with The Comedy Store Players at the laugh palace on Sunset Boulevard in West Hollywood. The Players included Robin Williams, Marty Short, Jim Stahl, Lucy Webb, and others, and improv comedy groups were the rage in town at the time. The improv movement at the Comedy Store began via another group headed by actor Larry Anderson, who was a Scientologist for 33 years and starred in Orientation: A Scientology Information Film, which was the first thing screened for prospective Scientologists. The so-called church still owes Anderson $100,000 for services he paid for but did not receive; so far they've refused to pay him, but that's rather normal for Scientology. Larry got into Scientology through myself and Spanky Taylor in 1976 when we met him at a huge party thrown by Paul and Linda McCartney after the "Wings Over America" tour.

It was Taylor who later introduced me to Negron at the Comedy Store, where I also met with Robin Williams to discuss a script of mine. It had been given to him by a mutual friend, Scientologist Jennifer Charm, who was sleeping with Williams though he was married. (Scientology "ethics," I kept discovering over the years, was always a relative term.)

After Lewis's death, Scientology began disavowing any association with him by scrubbing his picture and information off their websites. Obscuring troubled associations has been a practice of Scientology for decades, as I discussed in a previous article about the suicide of Scientologist actress Laura Hippe who, like Lewis, was a failed "product" of Scientology's drug rehabilitation arm, Narconon. Supposedly, his mother Divona used Narconon principles to keep her middle child off drugs. So much for Scientology and Narconon "technology."

I knew Johnny's mother as well as his father Michael, who is an "OT8" (Scientology's top level of supposed spiritual awareness) and runs a Scientology center in the San Fernando Valley whose motto is "We help you get there." Michael is also a screenwriter, as several reporters have noted, but what has been missed is another point of Scientology Hollywood interconnectedness. (And no, I'm not talking about more Narconon-related deaths and lawsuits.)

Days before the Lewis news broke, my friend Alex Ben Block at the Hollywood Reporter wrote about the State of California suing two movie producers about an alleged film Ponzi scheme that defrauded elderly investors, among other things. I immediately recognized the name Dror Soref, CEO of Skyline Pictures and the director of the 2009 movie Not Forgotten. (But then, I never forget anything I consider important.) The last time I saw Soref, in the '80s around the same time I was regularly visiting the Comedy Store, he was talking to me about producing a script of mine entitled "Street Song." When he said, "The money for the production is drug money, is that okay?" I walked away. Yes, Soref was a Scientologist at the time; I'd met him at the Celebrity Centre when it was on La Brea Avenue in Hollywood. The other person named in the lawsuit was Michelle Kenen Seward, a buddy of Scientologist actress Kirstie Alley, whom I also wrote about previously for The Morton Report.

After awhile, it can all make your head spin, but here's another connection. A previous movie made by Dror Soref was written by Michael Lewis. That was 1993's The Seventh Coin, whose budget was reported as $900,000 by IMDb, with a box office take of $3.2 million. Hmm.... one wonders what Soref forgot to do right when he made Not Forgotten?

All of which brings me to a simple conclusion, based on my decades-long experience in Scientology, which I usually spell this way — $cientology. It's all about the money, period. It always has been. When someone helps Scientology make money via their celebrity, they're lauded and loved. When they get in trouble, Scientology disappears from their life, running away (as they say back in Texas) like a turpentined dog (the turpentine goes on the offending dog's butt, you can imagine the reaction). When Scientology has a lot of money, they viciously attack anyone who says anything negative about them, and try to destroy them in court if possible. Lately, however, Scientology has had such a string of disasters former Village Voice editor Tony Ortega wrote the round-up article "Scientology's Meltdown" listing all the astonishing negatives.

Sadly, one of those dark stories was the death of Alexander Jentzsch, the 27-year-old son of Scientology’s president, Heber Jentzsch, who was found dead in his in-laws’ Los Angeles home, due to methadone taken while suffering from pneumonia. For those in the know about Scientology, death and youth often seem synonymous, particularly among those at "the top" in the church. I'm reminded of the demise of L. Ron Hubbard's 22-year-old son, Quentin.

To say I'm glad I got out of Scientology (in the 1990s) is the understatement of the last two centuries. If the items cited here give you any indication, you probably won't be surprised to know that I want EVERYONE out of this so-called church which leaves death and destruction in its wake every single day. In Scientology terms, I want the planet "cleared" of Scientology.

If that sounds harsh, ask yourself this. What, exactly, is the value of a philosophy whose highest-ranking members have sons who die in their 20s from criminal behavior and/or drugs, whose most well-known celebrity has a string of failed marriages and bizarre public utterances, and whose founder had a career filled with larceny, black magic, government investigations and convictions, and worldwide condemnation?

In the news now are stories speculating that Tom Cruise might be contemplating leaving Scientology. I hope he does; otherwise he'll go down in flames on that burning, sinking ship. As the New York Post noted, "Hey Tom, your crack is showing!" That "crack" is writer-director Paul Thomas Anderson's already much-lauded new film The Master. I'll be seeing that movie soon, laughing as I recognize the ways Anderson depicted the crazy realities gleaned from Scientology. I'm sure I'll also think about a written miniseries that could tell the real, horrifying tale so much more fully.

But I'll also probably cry a little, thinking of dead sons with great promise who probably would still be with us today, if not for a supposed religion known as Scientology.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 05, 2012, 07:04:26 PM
                              Found: Unseen Photos of the 1965 Rolling Stones

In Clearwater, Florida...
                                    Home of the Flag land base.

"Satisfaction" was written by Keith while he stayed at the Fort Harrison .

Of course the line says "I can`t get no satisfaction.
Something repeated regularly in the Hotel once Scientology "united Churches of America"
moved in and bought up the hotel and the surrounding town.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 06, 2012, 01:03:33 PM
       Manson Family Murderer Wins Parole After 40 Years In Prison, Previously Turned Down 27 Times!

A former member of Charles Manson's killer cult was granted parole Thursday after 40 years in prison for murder — after having been turned down 27 times before.

Bruce Davis, who was convicted with the Helter Skelter leader and another man for two murders unrelated to the notorious Sharon Tate massacre in 1969, was told the good news on the eve of his 70th birthday by the parole board at the California Men's Colony at San Luis Obispo.

"It's time for him to go home," said Davis' attorney, Michael Beckman, who has been fighting for years to get his client released, reported

PHOTOS: Celebs Involved In Murder

A parole board determined in 2010 that Davis was ready for release, but then-Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger reversed the decision, citing the heinous nature of the crimes.

The Family member's life in prison resulted from the 1969 murder of actor and Hollywood stuntman Donald "Shorty" Shea, who was ordered to be killed by Manson because he believed he was "a snitch."

According to Davis, he asked for a ride from Shorty with cohorts Charles "Tex" Watson and Steve Grogan to a car parts yard near the Manson ranch, where Shea was bludgeoned with a pipe wrench, stabbed, and brutally tortured to death.

PHOTOS: The Most Intriguing Cold Cases In History

"I stayed in the car for quite a while but what...then I went down the hill later on and that's when I cut Shorty on the shoulder with the knife, after he was...well, I don't know if he was dead or not," Davis told a past parole board, while revealing that Manson had handed him a machete but he couldn't bring himself to use it on the dying man.

"I was sick for about two or three days. I mean I couldn't even think about what I what I had done."

Davis was also convicted for his involvement in the murder of musician Gary Hinman, who was killed over money and property that Manson claimed Hinman owed the Family.

PHOTOS: Celebs Who Have Done Jail Time

His death is considered the first of a series of murders committed by The Family to start Helter Skelter – a "race war" that Manson had preached to his followers that would happen in the summer of 1969.

During his four decades in prison, Davis has become a born again Christian, ministered to other inmates, married a woman he met through the prison ministry (who he recently divorced), and has a grown daughter. He has also earned a master's degree and a doctorate in philosophy of religion.

PHOTOS: Most Notorious American Murder Trials

As previously reported, Manson was denied parole for the 12th time in April and remains in custody at the Corcoran State Prison in Central California. The 77-year-old will not be eligible for another 15 years, when he will be 92 if still alive.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 16, 2012, 10:53:58 AM
               Steve (Friend of Marty Rathbun) Hall`s new Independent Scientology site...

Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 23, 2012, 06:55:16 AM
                                  5 Weirdest Questions On Scientology's Sea Org Application

Former Village Voice editor-in-chief Tony Ortega has obtained a copy of the application people must fill out who want to be part of the Sea Org, Scientology's strict religious order for which members sign billion-year contracts. “You can't be shot for what you have done, you can only be shot for what you haven't told us.”

Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 29, 2012, 12:07:38 PM
                                  The Nation of Islam Discovers Scientology

Now comes evidence that America's two weirdest sects are joining forces.

By: Daniel Pipes                                           The Jewish Press
Published: October 28th, 2012

The Nation of Islam’s historic role as a bridge between American blacks and Islam ended in 1975 when W. Deen Mohammed followed his father, Elijah Muhammad as leader of the Nation and immediately disavowed his father’s folk religion, bringing his followers to normative Islam, the Islam of the Middle East. From then on, despite the theatrics of Louis Farrakhan, the Nation has been in a long downward trajectory. Now comes evidence, thanks to Tony Ortega in the Village Voice and Eliza Gray in The New Republic, of a jaw-dropping turn by Farrakhan, 79, to Scientology; as Gray’s subtitle puts it, “America’s two weirdest sects join forces.”

The connection goes back seven years, Gray explains:

    the story of how Farrakhan came to embrace it concerns a Nation minister in Los Angeles named Tony Muhammad. In 2005, Muhammad was beaten by the LAPD at a prayer vigil he’d helped organize for a young man killed in a drive-by shooting. The incident plunged him into an agitated, depressed state. A concerned friend introduced him to Scientology, which he credits with saving his life. When Farrakhan later met with Muhammad, he was amazed by the transformation and, as Muhammad tells it in an audio clip posted on YouTube, exclaimed: “Whatever you’re on—I want some of it.”

Five years later, things moved into high gear:

    The first large-scale introduction of Scientology to Nation members took place in August 2010, when hundreds of believers from around the country traveled to Rosemont, Illinois, near the Nation’s headquarters, for a seminar in Dianetics, a foundational belief system of Scientology. There, they were guided through auditing sessions—a kind of hybrid between hypnosis and confession—in which a Scientologist purges painful experiences from his subconscious in the presence of an “auditor.” At the end of the seminar, Farrakhan told the group he wanted everyone in attendance to become a certified auditor.

“I’ve found something in the teaching of Dianetics, of Mr. L. Ron Hubbard, that I saw could bring up from the depth of our subconscious mind things that we would prefer to lie dormant,” Farrakhan announced on July 1, 2012. “How could I see something that valuable and know the hurt and sickness of my people and not offer it to them?” Farrakhan plans to build a Scientology training center in Chicago and has even stated that “Nobody can lead in our Nation until and unless they become clear,” a reference to Scientology’s most enlightened state. He also voiced a hope that the two organizations maintain a “long and beautiful relationship.”

In turn, the head of Scientology, David Miscavige, finds bringing blacks into his organization super cool, praising “a most influential culture. … I’m speaking of those who truly set cultural trends, and across every avenue: fashion, music, you name it. So talk about a pervasive culture, talk about a permeating and penetrating culture, or to put it another way: Most white folks wouldn’t have a clue of what it means to be cool if it weren’t for black America.” To smooth the way for NoI’s members to rise through the notoriously expensive Scientology ranks, Miscavige even cut them some financial breaks.

Comment: This fascination with Dianetics probably marks the terminal point for NoI. Normative Islam reigns supreme in America. (October 25, 2012).

Originally posted on and Blouin News on October 25,

Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 31, 2012, 06:45:05 AM
                                 Ordained Minister: can the Co$ really REVOKE that ?

    The Co$ likes to "cancel" all certs when one leaves the group.

    When it comes to an ordained minister, can they ?

    Do they really contact the state & de-register the minister ?

    Oh, wait a minute, did they ever register their ministers with the state in the first place ?

    Does anybody know? Can one be a minister just because some 501 c 3 says they are ?

    Sure, one can go online & become a minister for a few bucks - but those ministeries REGISTER their minister with the state ( in CA it requires a county by county registration to perform marriages ).

    I wonder if Co$ ministers ever were legal ministers in the first place ? LOL !

    Anybody know ?

Read the responses here...

Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 07, 2012, 03:32:07 PM
                    X Scientologist Magoo and Critic Andreas Share their Story 12 years later

Andreas runs  He`s from Norway. A true hero.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 11, 2012, 07:45:55 AM
                                  Case on Post; what you may not know

    Now that I have every one nicely restimulated, let me 1st say HELLO to the OSA/WDC/ GO or whatever you're going by this week. ESAD!!! <stands for=eat shit and die>.
    My name is Don Crom, I was 3rd mechanic, [hence 3rd mo can] on Apollo in '75. And the "worst" ""they"" could come up with to shove me out the door with was Case on Post. (not once but twice mind you, Amnesty Return '80 also)

    BUT DID YOU KNOW, the "inoculation" for that particular affliction was actually covered in a 1959 P/L in the '74 version of OEC Vol Zero??? Page 119-120, title; STAFF AUDITING REQUIREMENTS. Now here's the kicker, ya know how sometimes when you open a ref book to show someone else what you are talking about you "usually" have to flip pages forward or back to get to the page you want?? (Pls, someone with upper levels help me here) Once in '74, onboard the Excalibur to show Jerry Parz, AND once in '87 or '88 at the Tampa Org for FBO Roy Pulliam I opened it to the exact page. ??OT ability? Tone 40? or just dumb luck??

    In a nut shell, if a person's temp status were to be upgraded to permanent "they" needed to be and were expected to be audited on "Process S2". The P/L was very specific in saying, "AFTER THAT" they were expected to operate on post with no CASEONPOST .
    Could it possibly be that "tech" was lost somewhere along the way?? Just a thought...
    And I hope to hear some feedback, I've wandered around the forum for a while and I feel I know so many of all of you. You are all brave, and deserve all the joy in life that is yet to be had. C-ya DC

Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 17, 2012, 08:48:30 AM


    Over a period of many years there have been countless court cases, media releases and publications exposing Human Rights violations and criminal activities on the part of the Church of Scientology, particularly its leader, David Miscavige. These include violations of the following articles of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights: Articles 1, 3, 4, 5, 9, 12, 16, 17, 18, 19, 23, 24, 25 and 30, fraud and extortion. Requests have been made for governmental investigations, however, there is no evidence that they have been successfully executed and their findings acted upon. Therefore, this petition is requesting the launching of a thorough investigation into the activities of this Church, and its leader, including making the findings public knowledge and prosecuting as appropriate.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 18, 2012, 07:37:49 AM
Was it a Psychotic Episode in L. Ron Hubbard That Led Him to Found the Church of Scientology?

A French Psychoanalyst, Dr Thierry Lamote, claims in a book (La Scientologie déchiffrée par la psychanalyse. La folie du fondateur, Universitaires du Mirail Press), and in a paper just published in the academic Journal 'L'Évolution Psychiatrique', that L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of the religious group, The Church of Scientology, suffered a psychotic episode, which appears to be the foundation for the multi-million pound worldwide movement.

Scientology claims a host of celebrity followers, such as film star Tom Cruise. The unswerving devotion of many adherents alarms some people. Jenna Miscavige Hill, said to be an ex-Scientologist whose uncle is a Scientology Church leader, is quoted in The Daily Telegraph Newspaper on 6 July as having publicly warned Katie Holmes, currently divorcing Tom Cruise, that Scientology was "no place for an innocent child", like her daughter Suri. Cruise and Holmes are said to be starting a custody battle, and it's possible that Cruise's high profile following of Scientology, might become a factor in the dispute.

Analysing the founder of Scientology's writings and biographical material, Dr Lamote's research contends it was Ron Hubbard's battle with psychotic symptoms that partly drew him to therapy approaches advocated by psychoanalyst Sigmund Freud. It seems he then exploited Freud to create a movement which its adherents would find difficult to leave.

In his paper entitled 'Scientology: A systematized delirious inspired by Breuer and Freud's Studies on hysteria', Dr Lamote claims Hubbard subsequently re-named various old techniques and ideas used by Freud (some dating from before Freud founded psychoanalysis) and incorporated them into Scientology. Part of the continuing power of the movement may lie in these Freudian approaches, Dr Lamote's analysis suggests. Supposedly unlocking and exploring the unconscious, can become psychologically 'addictive', explaining why so many find themselves drawn into Scientology, become dependent on it, and then are unable to understand why so many others remain suspicious of the movement.

Towards the end of the 1930s, Dr Lamote writes that Hubbard had a tooth extracted under nitrous oxide, also referred to as "laughing gas", used during general anaesthesia, but which can cause disturbing mind-altering effects. Lamote then points out that Hubbard, in a letter written on 1 January 1938, and other writings, relates a set of strange experiences as result, including hearing voices repeating enigmatic sentences such as, "Do not let him know!". They could sound like the kind of hallucinations Doctors associate with a psychotic illness.

Lamote found that Hubbard frequently returned to this painful experience, indicating how profoundly important it was to him, maybe a turning point.

Dr Lamote contends a psychotic process within Hubbard's mind had begun, but lay largely undetected by the outside world until possibly 1943 when Hubbard was a Lieutenant in the U.S. Navy. He was put in charge of a naval gun ship, the USS PC-815, a submarine chaser. In what remains a controversial episode, Lt. Hubbard, shortly after setting to sea, appears to have heard things through the sonar and hydrophone indicating contact with an enemy submarine.

Over the next three days, he launched 37 depth charges, and claimed to have sunk an enemy submarine, while critically damaging another. But no other official in the Navy seems to have agreed. Instead Dr Lamote's research suggests that Hubbard was fighting a battle with delusional enemies.

Dr Lamote wonders if this was part of his developing a paranoid picture of the universe?

Around this crucial time, Dr Lamote's paper points out, the exploding of the Hiroshima bomb perhaps profoundly shook and maybe further destabilised him. Formerly a science fiction writer, Hubbard appears to have become disillusioned, even perhaps frightened by the power of science. This combined with his mounting anxiety that society needed to be controlled, otherwise war and total annihilation was inevitable, possibly laid the seeds for the controlling nature of the movement he founded.

Lamote's paper contends that Hubbard turned to the science of cybernetics of control, in order to build a religious movement at the heart of which would be control over large numbers, in order to reduce the risk of self-destruction, which appeared to him to be mankind's destiny.

Into this mix Lamote believes Hubbard threw in teachings from psychoanalysts' Freud and his colleague Breuer, who were some of the earliest proponents of the idea that psychological distress arose out of repressed memories from earlier in life, which required access, through therapy, in order for us to achieve well-being. Hubbard had many physical symptoms and Lamote wonders whether the early psychoanalytic idea, that some physical symptoms had a psychological cause buried deep in the unconscious, may have influenced him. Through this approach, he may have found relief from his own physical symptoms.

Dr Lamote argues that Hubbard pioneered an idea of an 'engram' which is a kind of memory of pain which goes back so far into the past to include the pain of cell division, when we first started as an organism, but could retreat even further, to past or parental lives. The techniques of Dianetics, contends Dr Lamote's paper, include many which resembled counterparts in psychoanalysis such as hypnosis and abreaction, where past trauma is encouraged to be emotionally ventilated.

Tom Cruise did jump up and down in apparent agitation on Oprah's sofa during a televised interview.

It is this borrowing from psychotherapy and psychoanalysis that Dr Lamote work suggests partly explains the powerful appeal of Scientology to so many, and ironically enough, its founder Ron Hubbard. Just as therapy can be addictive, so can Scientology, because it borrows similar techniques but re-labels them. Like psychoanalysis it offers a universal therapeutic method, supposed to solve all human ills.

Dr Lamote points out there is almost a sense in which Freud has been re-discovered and re-packaged by Scientology.

Back in 2005 Tom Cruise was reported to have condemned the actress Brook Shields after she went public on the benefit she received from anti-depressant medication, while suffering from serious postpartum depression. Scientology is traditionally virulently anti-psychiatry, and anti-psychiatric treatments such as its medication.

It might be ironic, therefore, if Hubbard, founder of a strongly anti-psychiatric movement had been heavily influenced right back in the beginning, by what some would regard as the most famous psychiatrist of all, Sigmund Freud.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 18, 2012, 10:10:11 PM
                                               Graffiti has roots in Scientology


PALM SPRINGS — Palm Springs police, on Saturday, said they received at least three vandalism reports since Friday in downtown Palm Springs.

The latest was discovered Saturday at Koffi, 515 N. Palm Canyon Drive.

The word “thetans” was written across the business’s front window in black spray paint.

It occurred some time overnight, according to an employee.

The word is used in Scientology to explain the human soul.

Police Lt. Walter Combs said the vandal had used either white or black paint in each incident.

He could not say if or what other words may have been spray painted on the other buildings, but he added that the first report of vandalism came in Friday just before 12:30 p.m.

The other vandalized buildings were:

• 132 S. Palm Canyon Drive near La Plaza.

• 191 S. Indian Canyon Drive, the Stewart Galleries.

There have been no arrests.

On Saturday, store owners and customers in these areas said the affected properties were Koffi, Jill, Brien O’Brien and Just Fabulous.

The vandalisms occurred in an area of downtown known as The Corridor, which is locked by gates after hours.

Jill Kassinger, owner of the home accents and gifts store, Jill, had just woken up when she got a call from the property owner telling her of the vandalism at her business.

“It’s very disturbing, obviously,” she said.

A 20-year resident of Palm Springs, Kassinger, said the store has been open for only three weeks.

“I never thought it would happen to the front windows,” she said, showing a photo of a large “T” painted on her window.

“If they’re promoting Scientology, there should be a nicer way to do it,” she added.

Daniel Banducci, a Rancho Mirage resident and employee of Just Fabulous, said he found out about the vandalism after arriving to open the store at 8:30 a.m.

He notified the store owner immediately and said the graffiti was removed within 45 minutes.

“They cleaned it right up,” Banducci said.

According to Palm Springs resident John Falcone, the vandals tagged most of the stores that surround The Corridor including Brien O’Brien Salon.

He said there were scribbles in white and other words such as “heathen” on the windows of the surrounding businesses.

There have been no arrests.

Anyone with information is asked to call the Palm Springs police, (760) 323-8116.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 19, 2012, 07:41:42 PM
                      Mitt Romney’s Favorite Novel Is L. Ron Hubbard’s Battlefield Earth

Posted by JacobSloan on August 17, 2012

Just when America thought it couldn’t be any more confused by Mormonism, Romney went and said this. To be fair, he added that his favorite book overall (nonfiction included) is the bible, an answer which all Republican presidential candidates must give from now to eternity. A nugget from the New York Times five years ago:

    “What’s your favorite novel?” is a perennial campaign question, the answer to which presumably gives insight into leadership. A “Moby-Dick” lover may understand the perils of obsessively chasing of a goal. A fan of “To Kill a Mockingbird” may well focus on racial justice.

    When asked his favorite novel in an interview shown yesterday on the Fox News Channel, Mitt Romney pointed to “Battlefield Earth,” a novel by L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of Scientology. That book was turned into a film by John Travolta, a Scientologist. A spokesman said later it was one of Mr. Romney’s favorite novels.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 19, 2012, 07:44:18 PM
                       Vietnam Turns To Scientology To Treat Its Agent Orange Victims

    September 10, 2012

Agent Orange CropdustingTruth may be stranger than fiction, but when it comes to scientology it’s hard to know which is which…. From ABC News:

    The Vietnamese government is turning to a “detoxification” method developed by the founder of the Church of Scientology to treat victims of Agent Orange, a toxic defoliant the U.S. military used during the Vietnam War.

    According to local media reports, 24 patients from the central city of Da Nang were admitted to the Hanoi 103 Military Hospital last week to begin a free, month-long treatment to rid the body of dioxins that have been linked to birth defects, cancers and other diseases.

    The “Hubbard Method,” named after L. Ron Hubbard, requires taking vitamins and minerals, exercising and sweating in saunas. Scientologists have used it to treat alcoholism and drug addiction in the past, and offered similar services to New York City’s first responders who were exposed to toxins in the 9/11 terror attacks.

    Vietnam is the first country to apply the method on Agent Orange victims, according to Hoang Manh An, the director of the hospital carrying out the detoxification…

Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 25, 2012, 07:21:55 AM
                         OJ Simpson talks about Scientology and his kids with Ruby Wax!

Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 26, 2012, 05:54:48 PM
OMG!!!! PDC lecture #20 has been altered!!!!

    Comment from Marty's blog:
    Curiosus | November 24, 2012 at 11:55 am | Reply

    PDC lecture #20 alteration: a very clever editing

    In this blog, the article:

    is talking about alterations of the PDC #20 lecture.

    I was curious to check for myself and indeed I found the alteration.

    But I noticed also that a very clever audio editing has been done, that is much more than a simple cut.

    At the beginning of the cut section, there is in the background the noise of a train (or something similar). At the end of the cut, there is no background noise. So if there was a simple cut, the cut would be very audible as there would be a sudden disappearance of the noise. In order to mask the cut, the editor has added a similar noise at the beginning of the section following the cut, so that the cut cannot be noticed, unless one has the original tape to compare.

    That is sophisticated editing, and that indicates the intention to make the alteration unnoticeable.

    Now if you are patient enough to enter into the details, I put in upper case letters the part of the lecture where the noise of the “train” can be heard.

    Reference of the tape: PDC #20 lecture,

    “Formative State of Scientology. Definition of Logic”

    Version 1: cassette with a 1983 copyright:

    (A former section talking about the “1984” novel has also been removed).

    “It’s a very simple REMEDY. AND THAT’S JUST MAKE SURE THAT THE REMEDY IS PASSED ALONG. THAT’S ALL. DON’T HOARD IT. DON’T HOLD IT. AND IF YOU EVER DO USE any black Dianetics, use it on the guy who pulled Scientology out of sight and made it so it wasn’t available. Because he’s the boy who would be electing himself “the new order”. We don’t need any more new orders – all those orders as far as I’m concerned have been filled.

    Now when it comes, then, to logic, when it comes to logic, the logic of putting this together had as its first criteria what? Application? What were we going to do?”

    Version 2: CD with a 2007 copyright:

    “It’s a very simple REMEDY. AND THAT’S JUST MAKE SURE THAT THE REMEDY IS PASSED ALONG. THAT’S ALL. DON’T HOARD IT. DON’T HOLD IT. NOW WHEN IT COMES, THEN, TO LOGIC, when it comes to logic, the logic of putting this together had as its first criteria what? Application? What were we going to do?”

    The noise of a “train”, with some bits of voices in the audience that help masking the editing, has been added on the sentence “NOW WHEN IT COMES, THEN, TO LOGIC”. This sentence, in the original cassette, was clean, without any “train” in the background.

    The honest way to proceed would have been to say that some part had to be removed, for reasons of confidentiality or alignment of materials or something else. But everything has been done to dissimulate the alteration, including the order to burn old materials.

    That makes me feel that the CoS is actually running a “1984” style operation, and that all the materials that could help noticing it have been altered. And indeed there are many similarities between the current state of the CoS and the 1984 novel.

Links here...!!!!-PDC-lecture-20-has-been-altered!!!!

Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 27, 2012, 06:30:51 AM
               Gifts to Gov. Quinn range from books to wine to fancy pen

November 26, 2012 8:00AM

                                               Chicago sun times

SPRINGFIELD — A book on Scientology by L. Ron Hubbard. An Italian fountain pen worth $500. A compendium of state songs. And a chocolate foot.....

Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 30, 2012, 10:04:35 PM
                     Clearwater salon owner posts sign saying he's not a Scientologist

By Mike Brassfield, Times Staff Writer
In Print: Friday, November 30, 2012

photo, article...

Post by: Ididntcomeback on December 04, 2012, 07:12:43 AM
                        Video: Anti-Scientology Game Unlocks The Church's Secrets

Post by: Ididntcomeback on December 07, 2012, 01:37:20 PM
                 "Target Defense" And $cientology's EPIC FAIL

Posted by Tory Magoo

Post by: Ididntcomeback on December 12, 2012, 10:22:42 PM

              Census 2011: Jedis, Scientologists And Satanists Make Up 'Other Religions'

........Some of the more obscure religions listed include Scientology, which has around 2,400 adherents. There are 7,906 Rastafarians. And 6,242 described their religion as "Heavy Metal".......

Post by: Ididntcomeback on December 13, 2012, 07:01:12 AM
                 Google Zeitgeist: Here Are The Top Searches Of 2012

Post by: Ididntcomeback on December 29, 2012, 07:09:37 AM
                          Magazines - scans of assorted cult magazine issues

Post by: Ididntcomeback on December 31, 2012, 08:30:05 AM
    For those who missed this excellent article...

  December 18, 2012 by Joel Sappell                          LA Magazine.

In the mid-1980s, journalist Joel Sappell and a colleague began a five-year examination of the Church of Scientology that would ultimately produce a 24-article series. It would also change Sappell’s life in ways both mystifying  and unnerving. Decades later the onetime investigative reporter investigates what happened to him.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on January 01, 2013, 07:20:43 AM
                                    L. Ron Hubbard Ranch, near Creston, California


Post by: Ididntcomeback on January 01, 2013, 07:23:57 AM
                                    Tour Scientology sites


Post by: Ididntcomeback on January 05, 2013, 07:04:06 AM

                         Fascinating thread

Post by: Ididntcomeback on January 07, 2013, 07:34:06 PM
                  Scientology Inc.

Publishing executives in Folsom are spreading the word on technology in government. Some employees say it’s actually the words of L. Ron Hubbard that are being spread.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on January 20, 2013, 06:45:12 AM
                            The Atlantic Staff Memo About That Scientology Advertorial

The Atlantic president M. Scott Havens wrote to his staff yesterday evening to assure them that the advertorial kinks were being worked out in the wake of the outcry–and subsequent apology by the magazine–following The Atlantic’s pro-Scientology sponsored content earlier this week.

“It seems fitting to quote one of our founders, Ralph Waldo Emerson, who once said ‘Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail,’” Mr. Havens wrote in the staff memo a tipster sent us this morning. “This isn’t the first, nor the last time that WE will make mistakes, but what is important is how we handle them and what we learn from these moments.”

Full memo below:

    Dear Atlantic Staff,
    Clearly, things were a little rocky this week, so before we leave for the weekend, I wanted to update our team:
    What exactly happened?

        We ran a “native advertising” campaign for a new advertiser that, while properly labeled as Sponsor Content, was in my opinion inconsistent with the strategy and philosophy for which this  program is intended. In this case, we did not adequately work with the advertiser to create a content program that was in line with our brand.  In addition, because we had not fully thought through the issues around commenting on Sponsor Content, we made some mistakes trying to moderate the commenting thread. The general media climate also played a role here.

        Once these issues came to light and I had the opportunity to assess the campaign, I made the decision to suspend it pending further review. To be clear, our decision to pull the campaign should not be interpreted as passing judgment on the advertiser as an organization. Where I believe we erred was in the execution of the campaign.
        We then issued a statement to the press admitting we were at fault. When we make a mistake, we admit it. Our highest priority is The Atlantic’s reputation and credibility. That’s why so many readers trust us and why advertisers want to work with us.

    Why did it happen?

        Quite simply, we did not have clearly established digital advertising guidelines and policies in place, and when you’re innovating in a new territory without standardized guidelines (we’re not alone in the industry on this issue, by the way), mistakes can happen.
        One important note for everyone: casting blame on any group or any individual is both unfair and simply not what we do at The Atlantic. And we most certainly should not speak to the press or use social media to attack our organization or our colleagues. We are a team that rises and falls together.

    What is our plan going forward?

        We are currently finalizing new policies and guidelines to govern advertising overall, with a specific focus on Sponsor Content.
        Very shortly, we’ll publish these new policies, and I’ll be discussing them publicly with the press.
        My hope is that we’ll turn this issue into a moment where, as a leader in digital advertising, we will help move the industry to a better place.
        If you have ANY questions or potential concerns about something you’re working on, please don’t hesitate to push it up the chain.  Push it up to me—and if I think I need to, I will include Justin and David, not to mention Linda, Natalie, Bruce, Aretae (our new deputy general counsel), etc.

    It seems fitting to quote one of our founders, Ralph Waldo Emerson, who once said “Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail.” This isn’t the first, nor the last time that WE will make mistakes, but what is important is how we handle them and what we learn from these moments. In this particular case, we’ve learned a number of important lessons. I am confident we’re going to walk away from this with a stronger team, a smarter business, and, ultimately, in a better position to continue producing the best journalism in the industry.
    I am available at any time (including this weekend) should you wish to discuss any aspects of this week in further depth.
    Have a good weekend.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on January 31, 2013, 02:13:18 PM
                                  Neil Macdonald: Scientology and the cloak of religion

Neil Macdonald
Senior Washington Correspondent   CBC NEWS

Scientology is a religion. Of that there is no doubt.

The U.S. Internal Revenue Service says so, and in this country, that's pretty much the final word.

The designation means a lot legally, but as a matter of objective fact it is neither a laurel nor a pejorative.

It merely lumps Scientology in with all the other belief systems, from the Big Three of monotheism, with their billions of followers and hundreds of sub-sects, right down to self-proclaimed prophets seeking to found new faiths.

To each his own gods and rituals. For those of us who live wholly in the secular world, no religious doctrine is more or less credible, or worthy of ridicule, than any other.

The law must look upon all religious belief with indifference, and does, at least in most Western nations.

But, after reading Lawrence Wright's searing new investigative book, Going Clear: Scientology, Hollywood, and the Prison of Belief, my usual indifference has given way to concern.

On second thought, make that fright. And not just about L. Ron Hubbard's secretive army of adherents.

Because Wright's book demonstrates in granular detail what an organization with enough money and zealous acolytes can do once it has wrapped itself in a religious cloak: assault, conspire, burgle, forge, perjure, spy, bully and intimidate anyone who gets in its way.

Convince your flock that they are above earthly laws, and they go about their task with, well, religious ferocity.
Dirty tricks

In Scientology's case, as Wright explains, the church targeted any and all opponents to an almost unimaginable degree.

It coordinated campaigns to smear and frame investigative journalists, driving one courageous author, Paulette Cooper, to waste away and contemplate suicide (until the church file on Cooper was uncovered by the FBI).

Defectors from Scientology were tracked down and punished. In one case, an apostate died during her "treatment" — extended solitary confinement and controlled diet.

Then the church targeted the medical examiner who had refused to rule the death an accident. (She changed her ruling to "accidental," satisfying the church, and then retired, becoming a recluse.)

In fact, if Wright's meticulous research is correct, Scientology's nasty methods triumphed in just about every case.

Not only could the U.S. government not protect the individuals from the savagery of Scientology's dirty tricks department, it couldn't even protect itself.

After the FBI uncovered evidence in the 1960s that Scientology had systematically infiltrated government departments with church spies, Scientology's tax-exempt status was revoked, triggering a two-decade war with Washington.

According to Wright, the church in that time filed 2,500 lawsuits, swamping government lawyers. Scientology agents dug into the private lives of IRS staff, looking for evidence of drinking or marital cheating, then planted news stories on them.

It offered a $10,000 reward for dirt on the tax agency.
Body armour

Eventually, the IRS backed down, defeated. But fight any temptation to cheer.
Actor Tom Cruise, one of Scientology's more prominent adherents, gives a speech at the inauguration of a Scientology church in Madrid in 2004. Actor Tom Cruise, one of Scientology's more prominent adherents, gives a speech at the inauguration of a Scientology church in Madrid in 2004. (Paul Hanna / Reuters)

Effectively, what we have here is a profit-making machine that disregarded the law to pursue restitution of its tax-exempt status, which in turn made it even more potent, even more immune to the rules that govern the rest of us.

Yes, other big profit-making entities push government around, too — just take a look at Wall Street — but none has the body armour of a church.

Skeptical? Ask yourself this: If it were proved that senior employees of Microsoft, or Bank of America, had been sexually assaulting minors worldwide for decades, overwhelmingly young boys in their care, and senior company management had been complicit, either ignoring the abuse or actually taking steps to cover it up in order to protect the company's image, how long would it be before that company would be facing a Justice Department strike force? Or bankruptcy?

Yet the Roman Catholic Church was, at most, dented by such horrific revelations. Individual priests have been charged worldwide, yes. But efforts to hold the church hierarchy responsible for the crimes that were covered up have been exceedingly rare.

Inevitably, that is because of the severe pushback that any large religious organization can command if it feels threatened.
Populated by aliens

A signal moment for Scientology came in the mid-1980s, during a lawsuit that threatened to make public some of its doctrinal secrets.

Scientologists believe Earth was formerly called Teegeeack and was populated with aliens by a dark lord named Xenu, who stuffed them into volcanoes and destroyed them with hydrogen bombs.

The spirits of these aliens subsequently attached themselves to humans, but they can be shaken free by a series of very expensive counselling courses offered by, of course, Scientology. Such courses can easily eat up life savings, and have.

The church believed that the public revelation of these secret beliefs would hold it up to ridicule, perhaps even permanent damage.

So Scientologists attacked the lawyer suing them, bugging his home and infiltrating his office. They harassed the judge, going so far as to involve his son, who was gay.

When none of it worked, they tried to flood the legal process and gum up release of the documents, which were nonetheless published in the Los Angeles Times.

But the church was wrong about the damaging potential of its secret doctrine. The revelations caused some tittering, and vanished.

Perhaps that is because while the doctrine might have indeed been fantastical to some, it's hardly unusual.

Tens of millions of Americans take other such stories as the literal truth: Mormons with their belief in extraterrestrial life and the supernatural qualities of their undergarments; Christians with their talking snake and virgin birth; Muslims with their flying horse and human ascension to heaven; the Raelians with their group sex, spaceships and swastikas.

The list is infinite. But in a democracy, the state must regard all such ideas as equally valid.

And the fact is, no one has anything to fear from religious parables and doctrine, as long as they remain in church.

The trouble almost always begins when people begin to think that divine laws supersede those of their fellow human beings. The fact that religions enjoy certain immunities from taxation, and from what goes on between spiritual adviser and believer, doesn't help.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 03, 2013, 10:00:22 PM
                                  Ingo Swann Died

For a while he had his biography online, and he mentioned $cientology this way: He said at the time there was enormous pressure to perform and they were trying everything, including scientology. He also stated that HE never considered himself a scientologist. (this is an OT6 per advance Magazine)  Arnie Lerma

Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 15, 2013, 08:24:59 PM
                                         Publishers Weekly best sellers.


1. "Shred: The Revolutionary Diet: 6 Weeks 4 Inches 2 Sizes" by Ian K. Smith (St. Martin's Press)

2. "My Beloved World" by Sonia Sotomayor (Knopf)

3. "Killing Kennedy" by Bill O'Reilly (Henry Holt and Co.)

4. "Pursued: God's Divine Obsession with You" by Jud Wilhite (Faith/Words)

5. "The Future" by Al Gore (Random House)

6. "I Declare: 31 Promises to Speak" by Joel Osteen (Faith/Words)

7. "The Legend of Zelda" by Shigeru Miyamoto (Dark Horse)

8. "Francona: The Red Sox Years" by Terry Francona and Dan Shaughnessy (Houghton Mifflin Harcourt)

9. "The Way" by Adam Hamilton (Abingdon)

10. "No Easy Day" by Mark Owen (Dutton)

11. "Barefoot Contessa Foolproof: Recipes You Can Trust" by Ina Garten (Clarkson Potter)

12. "Going Clear" by Lawrence Wright (Knopf)

13. "Remembering Whitney" by Cissy Houston (Harper)

14. "Beyond Belief: My Secret Life Inside Scientology and My Harrowing Escape" by Jenna Miscavige (Hill)

15. "Wheat Belly Cookbook: 150 Recipes to Help You Lose the Wheat, Lose Weight, and Find Your Path Back to Health" by William Davis (Rodale)

Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 17, 2013, 06:36:29 AM
                 Xenophon detained at Malaysian airport

Federal independent Senator Nick Xenophon has been detained by Malaysian authorities after being told he was a security risk.

He was taken into custody on his arrival at Kuala Lumpur airport about 10:00am (AEDT).

Senator Xenophon, who is outspoken on human rights issues in Malaysia, is under escort and is expected to be put on a flight to Melbourne about 10.30pm (local time) tonight.

The South Australian senator had been about to join a delegation which had meetings planned with Malaysian opposition members and officials from the electoral commission ahead of this year's national election.

Foreign Minister Bob Carr said it appeared that Senator Xenophon was detained under Malaysia's national security laws.

Senator Carr said he would be seeking an explanation from the Malaysian government.

"We're expressing our disappointment, we're seeking a full explanation of this," he said.

"We think for a friendly country to do this is quite a sad thing."

Nationals Senator John Williams, Labor MP Steve Georganas, and Liberal MP Mal Washer were also part of the delegation, but have now pulled out.

"Malaysia is due to have elections here very soon. I think the Australian Government has been incredibly silent about some of the abuses that have been occurring here in terms of the way the democratic system runs or doesn't run," Senator Xenophon told ABC News 24.

"And what we were trying to ascertain with members of both the Coalition and the Government was to how free and fair the elections are likely to be.

"But at this stage I've been told that I'm not allowed entry and I have to be on the next flight back home."

'Orders from above'

Senator Xenophon said immigration officials had been "incredibly polite" but told him they had "orders from above" to detain him.

He said he had not expected to be detained.

"I just find it extraordinary. I've been here before [and] I've made statements about the state of Malaysian democracy previously," he said.

"But on this occasion clearly someone high up in the Malaysian government doesn't want me here."

Senator Xenophon was during a fact-finding mission in 2012.

He was also in Malaysia last year to observe the trial of opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim, .

"I became involved in this cause when the opposition leader [Anwar] Ibrahim came to Australia in 2010," Senator Xenophon said.

"He met with a number of MPs [and] I undertook to keep an eye on the trial he was facing, which he was subsequently acquitted of."

Senator Xenophon was also a part of an observer group that published a report on the Malaysian electoral system last April.

He is currently pursuing a defamation case against government-backed media in Malaysia that misattributed a speech he gave on Scientology to the word of Islam.

Senator Williams told ABC News 24 it was important for Australian politicians to build relationships with their Malaysian counterparts.

He said a formal protest to Malaysia risked "pouring petrol on the fire", and the delegation may look at travelling to Malaysia in the coming weeks.

"I don't think it is a big issue. They have their reasons why they stopped him at the airport," he said.

"I am sure these can be talked through in time and I don't see any reason why we would want to add fuel to the fire on this issue.
"It will settle in a few weeks' time and we will look at whether we can make a visit then."

Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 21, 2013, 07:36:38 AM
                            LRH Series Library Donation Campaign – Photos Of The Fraud

Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 24, 2013, 07:58:58 AM
Until Nothing Remains - Feature Film About Scientology

    I'm sure many of you are familiar with this film already, but I wanted to give it new attention, especially will the Scientology books that are the NYT bestseller list.

    Many people are coming to ESMB for the first time, and may not have seen this before. I have read and watched many Ex-Scientology books and interviews, and I'd never heard of it before, which surprised me. I was waiting for a feature film about Scientology - and this is it. This film is very different from "The Master", which never mentions Scientology by name. Thank you to ChuckNorrisCutsMyLawn for posting it recently.

    Until Nothing Remains is a German film directed by Niki Stein (with English subtitles) about a husband and wife in a custody battle over their daughter, and the role that Scientology plays in the proceedings. I won't share any more than that, but I think the film is well done, well acted, and, it seemed very real - although I would have to leave that final assessment to those who have had church experience. I'm curious what others think. I was especially moved in a scene where the young daughter is doing her Scientology drills. It is impossible not to think of Jenna Miscavige Hill if you've read her book, which made me think again that this film should be given more attention at this time when considering her relationship with her parents.

    There is also something fascinating about seeing a film about Scientology in German. Watching the various situations and persecutions through the film - it is also hard to not see the obvious connections with Nazism. I'll allow the viewer to draw their own conclusions, but for me, this brought an added depth to the viewing experience.

    When you click the link, make sure to hit the "closed caption" button in order to bring up the subtitles, otherwise you won't see them. I've also included a link for "The Bridge" below. The production values aren't as high in the Bridge, but I really like that film a lot - it feels claustrophobic and scary in a way that is very effective. It also includes real footage at the beginning with Ronnie Miscavige.

    A double feature. Enjoy.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 27, 2013, 08:04:37 AM

Originally Posted by mnql1 View Post
Scientology is once again a recognized religion in Hungary. Hungary's constitutional court today (Feb. 26, 2013) annulled a December 2011 law that reduced the number of recognized religions from more than 300 to only 14. About 60 religious groups, including Scientology, have regained official recognition.

Top Hungary court throws out religious recognition law

La Justicia húngara devuelve a 60 iglesias su condición de culto reconocido

Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 12, 2013, 07:35:37 AM
                      KPFK Public Radio Los Angeles Offers 'Going Clear' with Donation

    Public radio station KPFK is offering 'Going Clear' (LA Times #1 best seller) with a donation during their fund drive.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 15, 2013, 06:34:36 AM
Rev. Nick Broadhurst ACT

    The article below is just too much it makes me want to vomit, have at it peeps and pull it apart. This was written by Nick Broadhurst ED of ACT Org as a rebuttal to comments made by Larabell see Larabell's link below.


    Last modified: Thu Oct 28 22:17:37 2004, see what's new.
    This is Scientology for me

    [Ed. Note: This article was submitted as a rebuttal to my own Scientology page and is published here in the interest of freedom of speech. For further details on how this article came to be published on an otherwise "critical" site, kindly refer to the original page]

    I am a Scientologist. I came across the site of Mr. Joe Larabell. Joe's experience in Scientology is different to mine. He left the Church in its earlier years, 1979. I joined the Church in 1986. Thus what we recall of our experiences is different.

    There are some points of which I agree with Mr. Larabell. I especially agree that people can get awfully emotional about subjects which involve belief. It does not matter if a person is a Scientologist, a Catholic, a Buddhist, a Hindu, a Muslem, a Shintoist or any other religion, or ex-religion. People can get awfully passionate about what they believe in.

    Scientology is a body of knowledge developed by its founder Mr. L. Ron Hubbard. Mr. Hubbard taught that while he may have developed Scientology, he credits great thinkers before him which provided great ideas. Such great philosophers would include Buddha for example, who developed a philosophy that perhaps in its original form, was very close to Scientology. And before that, the Veda, which according to Mr. Hubbard, is Scientology's "earliest known ancestor". The Dharma, is also referred to by Mr. Hubbard, meaning knowingness. But while Mr. Hubbard does credit others where it is relevant, and there are modern writers amongst those he also credits, no earlier person has ever come close to totally freeing man. And Total Freedom is what Scientology offers, and it was developed by Mr. L. Ron Hubbard.

    Today Scientology, like most organizations with similar worthwhile goals for man, has evolved, grown and matured. There are now hundreds of missions and Churches around the world, and thousands of small groups. In my own organization in Tokyo we have 200 staff, and many staff outside of Tokyo. Those who have done services in Scientology in Tokyo alone number over 20,000.

    Mr. Larabell says that there is a text that states to stamp out all non-Scientology ways of thinking. There is no such text. However, in Scientology, we are taught to solve Scientology problems with Scientology philosophy. Yet in writing this I must also add in all humility Mr. Hubbard clearly wrote the following, "Scientology is a workable system. This does not mean it is the best possible system or a perfect system. Remember and use that definition. Scientology is a workable system."

    Mr. Larabell says that he worked inside the organization. I am not sure how long that was for, but likely it was only for a relatively short time. On the other hand I have been employed by the Church since 1989. I have never experienced what Joe Larabell has claimed about the Church, and I have been employed in Australia, Japan and Asia, the USA, and Europe. I have found that Scientology has helped people, and helped me.

    Mr. Larabell worked for an organization known as the Guardian's Office. It was not run by the founder Mr. Hubbard. It was run by others. That organization was, in its final days, found to be running not on the policies written by the founder, but rather, it was being run on policies developed by others. That of course raises the question, were the people in that organization really Scientologists? They were not following the policies of the founder. They were not practicing Scientology. Needless to say the Church eventually closed down the Guardians Office. But this was some years before I came into Scientology.

    Thus I need to point out that Mr. Joe Larabell possibly has his own memory of experiences trapped in an organization that ceases to exist today. His memory of that organization ended for him in 1979, and the organization itself ceased altogether a few years later.

    Mr. Larabell states that most of the current Church leadership is young. While we have many young leaders, I am 47 years old, and the Executive Director of the Tokyo Organization is older than I am. And, some of our top international executives are older than this. But youth is there too, giving both a young side with mature leadership. Also there are many leaders within our church that have successfully completed university education and many more who had prestigious careers before joining the Church. For example I let go of a very lucrative construction management career to become a Church staff member. The point I make here is that Church leadership is professional hands.

    Mr. Larabell draws attention to what I might term a schism that occurred in Scientology at around the time of the founder's death. Such schisms are not unusual in religion at such a time. Those who pick the wrong or losing side of any schism can have grievances. Some may even exaggerate those grievances. And this may be true for Scientology back then too. While I can understand the upset of those people who left, they have to realize themselves that they were the ones who made their decisions to leave. Further more, should they wish, the door into Scientology is always open for them to return. The door to Scientology is never fully closed on anyone. That would be unfair.

    But today the leadership of Scientology has helped the Church chart a course on a very stable footing. Scientology has been expanding dramatically. In Los Angeles alone over 10,000 members attend Scientology events. There are almost a thousand prisons using Scientology criminal rehabilitation technology around the world. Mr. L. Ron Hubbard's educational books are now approved for school use in California. There are drug rehabilitation centers in six continents that use Mr. Hubbard's technology. There are now around 20,000 Scientology staff and 8 million Scientologists world wide.

    World expansion is what today's leadership is about. The book Dianetics, the Modern Science of Mental Health, is now published in 52 languages. In Russia alone there are over forty missions, the largest of which has hundreds of staff. The whole of Eastern Europe is booming for Scientology too. In Japan the Tokyo organization has hundreds of staff and there are 21 City Offices outside of Tokyo. In the rest of Asia, there are many offices and missions in India, Nepal, Taiwan, Malaysia, Thailand, Hong Kong, Pakistan, and more. Scientology is growing fast. I know because I have personally been to many of these places pushing that expansion.

    As to the state of the founder, which Mr. Larabell questions, I have met several people who had worked with him. They all agree that Mr. Hubbard was a brilliant genius. He worked vigorously for the purpose of bettering mankind. What other man has worked out a way for enabling the intelligent, and even the no so intelligent, to become more able, to have higher IQs, and to survive better in today's world? Mr. Hubbard's works have now been honed and polished to put back together marriages, increase the survival of groups, better the treatment and education of children, and to further one's own survival along that route to immortality. This is the work of a brilliant humanitarian. No other organization can really do all that.

    As to the workability of auditing, it works. This is my experience and the experience of many others. I know of no other route to Total Freedom. For this I am indebted to Mr. Hubbard. And as to the upper level materials, I have done the real OT3. And I have successfully completed grades above that. These grades work like nothing I can explain on this page.

    Scientology enables a person to recall their past as a spiritual being, be it this life or earlier. In the past are times and instances that hold us back and prevent us from being who we really feel we should be, and times which prevent us from attaining our true potential. But with the application of Scientology a being can achieve find this past and eradicate those mental and spiritual blocks. For example, I used to run a construction business. I could only successfully run a building site consisting of 17 people. Any more than seemed to present too many problems. Then I started doing Scientology. The construction sites I could control got bigger and bigger. People were happy on my sites. There were no industrial problems, no accidents, no real problems. Tradesmen and contractors alike made money. Soon I was managing projects with 200 people. My own IQ after doing Scientology had gone up 35 points. My own income went up 500%. At 32 years old I even bought a Rolls Royce car to drive to work. But after a while just having these great abilities for myself was not enough. Money did not seem to be that important any more. I was attracted to the idea of allowing others to achieve what I had Thus I chose to be a Church staff member and bring the miraculous gains of Scientology to others.

    Joe mentions the Lisa McPherson case. She died of an undiagnosed air embolism. This was unfortunate. She was involved in a car accident, sent to a hospital to get checked out, but the hospital said that she was fine. With this advice she went about her business at the Flag Service Organization in Florida, where she later died. In the USA 50,000 people die of air embolism each year. In Lisa's case it was tragic but not mysterious.

    And, as to that organization called CAN. There are many people of many faiths working in it. When people telephone CAN now about a religion that they know nothing about, those same people get referred to professional religious scholars who know about the religion concerned. These are not Scientologists they are being referred to. Those inquiring are being referred to professionals who know about the religion concerned. This provides a good service for the community. The old CAN was simply a religious hate group that served no useful purpose for the community.

    In summary, yes, there are critics of Scientology. Many of them left the organization at the time Joe Larabell did, or a bit later. Some critics have been caught up in upset generated others. All I can say for those who left, is that this was their choice. But the door into Scientology is never fully closed on them. But in saying this I should point out the sources of such criticisms are actually likely to be anti social type actions that the person has done in the past, not what has been done to him or her. And these actions are not necessarily easy for a person to confront again. For many it is simply easier to stay critical than to actually look at what one did in the past that caused him or her to become that way. This is a technical fact of the mind and spirit well known in Scientology.

    Like any religion, people can leave Scientology. And if they chose to leave, they should get on with their own lives, and let myself and others expand Scientology. I do not particularly want to have to pay a lot of attention to critics. Perhaps such voices are like yapping dogs barking at a fire engine as it races past to put out a fire.

    Like most people, I do not like my beliefs ridiculed. But I do respect another person's point of view. I also respect intelligent conversation. But when that point of view or discussion becomes so loud that my own survival as a spiritual being is threatened, then it might be time for me to pay just some attention to those yapping dogs. So my request is to those dogs is to find another vehicle to bark at, and let myself and others put out the fire. And, if they cannot do that, then join us. And if they cannot join us, then be silent.

    Nick Broadhurst:puke:

Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 16, 2013, 06:23:56 AM
                       VIDEO: Ex-Church Members Reveal What Scientology Cost Them

By Tony Ortega

Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 20, 2013, 07:31:03 AM
                                              ENTHETAcon / 2013 SP Party

Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 25, 2013, 08:15:14 AM
                    Bruce Wiseman, father of Kendra of "Ex-Scientology Kids" speaks ~~ incredulous

Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 25, 2013, 09:08:57 PM
               Woman`s Day Australia.  (And New Zealand

              Womens Day article on my kids - Disconnection - out now  (25 March 2013)

    In the last edition of Womens Day there is a 2 page article on disconnection and my kids. Many of you here are very familiar with my story, but stories involving disconnection need to be told and re-told. The way a cult deals with people around it I think is a direct indication as to the TRUE nature of their intentions.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 28, 2013, 02:52:39 PM
                        Phoenix Schools Under Fire For Program Linked To Scientology

by Peter O'Dowd
March 27, 2013

A group of Phoenix charter schools is facing criticism for using a teaching tool based on the work of L. Ron Hubbard, best known for founding the Church of Scientology.

Teacher Katie Donahoe says that shortly after she was hired in 2010, she went to a memorable training session on the teaching method, called Applied Scholastics. The session was held at the Applied Scholastics headquarters near St. Louis.

"They didn't start off talking about instruction. They started off talking about L. Ron Hubbard," says Donohoe, who was there at the urging of her new superintendent. Later that fall she would start teaching English at Robert L. Duffy High School in Phoenix. But first, she was asked to get familiar with Hubbard's methods.

"The next stop was to watch a video talking about how great Applied Scholastics was," Donahoe says. Among those in the video were Isaac Hayes, Tom Cruise and John Travolta.

"These are not education experts. These are Scientology spokespeople. It was very weird," she says.

Donahoe has since left the school.

Applied Scholastics is a program based on something Hubbard called "study technology." The idea is that some kids struggle because they can't overcome learning barriers. They misunderstand words or progress through the content too quickly. The Church of Scientology makes no secret of its support for the program. It even distributes highly produced videos on it.

Applied Scholastics would not comment on tape for this story. But in an email, a spokesperson says the materials are secular and their sole purpose is to help people learn. In the past year, however, Applied Scholastics' presence in publicly funded schools has concerned parents and educators in places like Denver and Tampa. In Denver, the school system warned Applied Scholastics in 2012 that the program was not helping students and that it would be dropped unless students improved. The company did not apply to be considered as a teaching tool for the 2013 school year. In Tampa, the charter school using Applied Scholastics closed.

article continued...Plus video

Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 29, 2013, 07:00:07 AM
                                          Magoo and Arnie Lerma talk   from 2011. Still great.

    This is an interview with Arnie Lerma, Ex Sea Org (in for 7 years), Ex-Scientologist for 33 years) telling Part 1 of his story of meeting me, working at Delta Meters, and other experiences. Here is his invaluable web site.(Hubbard's Navy record+Death Certificate+Coroner's report, Archive of news articles going back to 1950, Interviews and radio shows, Plus other goodies-over 5,000 files). Please take time to read it:

Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 29, 2013, 06:54:10 PM

                                          Why and how Scientology recruits children

    scientology abuses     written by esmb member greywolf
    March 28, 2013
    By: Robert Robinson

Adolph Hitler said, "Give me a child by the age of five and I will have him for life". L. Ron Hubbard knew this data and used it to recruit children in order to make future workers for the Church of Scientology. Scientology also uses children as blackmail through its policy of disconnection (excommunication and shunning), to keep recalcitrant members and workers in line.

If done correctly, children are easily manipulated. Basically, children want to be validated for being good and doing good. They also want to be accepted by their peers. Scientology takes advantage of this through its indoctrination programs. Children begin their indoctrination at about age six, and if their parents are members of the Sea Organization, (the para-military elite priesthood), they are sent to the Cadet Organization to begin training for a life of service to the Sea Org.

If Scientology parents have teenage kids, they are encouraged to send them to the Sea Org. This is done for two reasons. First, they need a lot of workers to accomplish their goals, which basically is to make the whole world Scientologists. More importantly is the fact that the parents, be they staff, Sea Org or parishioners, will have more time and money to invest in Scientology without their young ones about.....

Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 30, 2013, 07:28:28 AM
Karen de la Carriere YouTube Channel

    Announcement from OCMB.
    Today I launched a YouTube Channel called "Surviving Scientology".

    These will be short 3 to minute pithy videos where I share my 35 year journey within the "Church" of Scientology cover breaking news and explain things outsiders may not understand.

    What is an "O/W write up?" Why do you have to write up your transgressions and crimes before being permitted to go buy toothpaste ?

    What is a Sec check ?

    What is an OSA threat assessment of your time track ?

    Please subscribe to my channel so you are kept in the loop.

    Here's the link

    Best wishes,

    Karen de la Carriere

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 06, 2013, 08:01:46 AM
                      The 80/20 principle, Pareto’s law, and the decline of scientology

    The 80/20 principle, Pareto’s law, and the decline of scientology
    After reading the articles here on the ESMB regarding Alan Walters and my own research, I would like to draw attention to the change in Scientology philosophy around the 1964 period.
    Before this time 1964 the philosophy was to help ones fellow man by increasing his awareness, raising the tone of the individual, and making him more able to survive in a hostile world. I think that before this time 1964, almost anybody was welcome in the church, criminals, ex - military personnel, druggies, mentally ill, psychotics, and of course normal Joe public. All desirable attributes that are in the public courses and the books written by Hubbard and one of the reason that people are attracted to this group.

    Introducing the Pareto Law: This works on the idea that only 20% of any group, company, sales team, etc. produces 80% of all sale, income and product. This idea is prevalent today in business.
    So what of the other 80% in any company? Well of course they are expendable! They don’t produce anything of worth and are really liabilities, but get this - the other end of this scale is the 20% that are against any production, they seek to hinder the company in any way they can.
    After accepting this idea a manager wants to promote the top 20% and get rid of the lower 20% by firing them.

    This style of management I think entered scientology around this 1964 period.
    The introduction of statistics, ethics and the concept of suppressive persons are all based on this principle. To find evidence of this 80/20 law in scientology I will give examples of the law: the PTS rundown, the structure of the management org board are two examples of this idea.
    In the ups and down courses one has the roller coasting phenomenon and this is caused by some hidden SP. Then there is in society 80% of us just trying to get on in life and they are bothered by some 20% of the population who are antisocial to the 80% and some mysterious 2.5% really bad!
    The structure of the organisation, the org board is structured with 21 departments. Well what does this mean, there is the office of LRH this been 1% and that leaves the rest at 20%. 20 departments of scientology orgs at 20% cause over the rest of society the 80%.

    What are the implications of this? Well it sets people up to look for the 20% scapegoats who are causing the bad statistics and when the scapegoat is found to the relief of all they are given heavy ethics actions, separation and ostracised by the group. The poor sole who has being subjected to this abuse reacts against this and makes it worse by protesting and goes down tone, angry, hostile and is bewildered by the rejection of his friends. This “natural reaction” is of course a sign of proof that this person has overts and is the anti-social person or the sp!
    Another scenario if you are a member of the 80% one’s boss can be rude, hostile and use mockery and humiliation towards you because you are expendable in the eyes of your 20% seniors. One becomes suppressed under this shit and one has two options leave the group or put up with it.

    The public and staff in the org of the 80% are treated at effect and are swindled out of their money and if they don’t play ball are threatened with no auditing or that disgusting practise of having the registrar coming into the ethics room and getting one to buy more services which one hasn’t even had yet. If you are refused processing, it doesn’t matter as you are the expendable 80%. The rich people: well they are the 20% customer and are treated like royalty until their money runs out that is.
    There is the beginning of the fall and decline of the church, the failure of the church to accept responsibility for all of society from skid row bum to high toned, flying executive, and businessperson. The top 20% (rich people) get the tech, the rest get ethics, and admin.

    And the whole of society - with the crash of 2008 all following this principle into the grave, leading to a no game condition called a recession. These theories are extoled, in the best seller books: “the four hour working week” by Tim Ferris and “the 80/20 principle” by Richard Koch. “Fuck you Jack!” mentality excluding people not complying with your imagined 20%. Short term rewards at the expense of society is a heavy karmic future. Could this be the cause of the bubble, boom and bust economics scenario?

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 07, 2013, 10:07:46 AM
                          Albuquerque, NM -- April 2013 -- Scientology Org Is A Mess.

    See for yourself.

    Vid from April 5, 2013: (If you have a kazoo, play along w/the music. Fun!)

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 21, 2013, 08:36:08 AM
                                  OT – 3 The Hard Way – Homicide In Vegas

Posted on April 20, 2013 by RobRobinson

This story is not new but it needs
to be kept in the public eye. Also,
those new to the protest scene may not
have been exposed to it. Anyway, the
story needs to be told.

Now Scientology is asking people that announce they`re leaving to donate their money on account! The staffers remind the people asking for refunds of the "policy". They intimidate and install fear. Please - Luis Garcia and Theodore Babbitt - hang in there and persist with your cause.....please!! You have got to finish this once and for all!! Expose the fraud of this cult!

They don't even try to keep people in is all about keeping their money because the ship is sinking fast and it costs a lot of money to spin the 2,000 members in staff still stuck in the cult! No new public, big empty buildings, the truth about the criminal organization spread across the globe from the media, celebrities made fun of for their involvement, celebrity lives smashed to pieces - Tom Cruise and John Travolta!

This is scientology - in all of its glory before their demise!

Posted by Idle Morgue.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 23, 2013, 07:18:38 AM
                            Grand theft Auto 5                 

                GTA 5 news on the way? Scientology spoof website comes back to life

                "Coming just as soon as we can finish it, a real chance to learn the truth."

Rockstar may be about to drop some fresh Grand Theft Auto 5 facts, ladies and gentlemen. The Epsilon Program - a parody of pay-to-be-saved religious cults, aimed squarely at Scientology - has begun updating its Twitter feed after months of silence.

This follows the release of some new GTA 5 artworks last week, thus confirming the in-game existence of bikes, guns, helicopters, bridges and, er, shoes. Read more of the game's wonders in our GTA 5 info overload, comprising 31 need-to-know details. You do need to know. Trust me.

Notice the #truthseekers bit - I've just had a quick nose round Google, and come up with this. Care to do a little sleuthing of your own? Alternatively, check out this mindboggling fan-made map of GTA 5.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 29, 2013, 08:36:38 AM
                The Sydney org face lift has begun.   28 th April 2013

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 30, 2013, 07:14:28 AM
                Scientology Spoof Takes Grand Theft Auto V Ads Viral

Earnest "Nex" Cavalli | 30 April 2013

Rockstar Games has taken the Grand Theft Auto V ad blitz viral, with a new site seeking followers for a religion dubbed the "Epsilon Program."

Since Grand Theft Auto III, each game in the series has featured dozens of jabs at modern culture. From crass consumerism to American foreign policy, the Grand Theft Auto developers have a throwaway gag for everything, and their next target is apparently Scientology.

A new site recently launched by Rockstar Games asks potential converts if they "want to be happy and free from thought," before asking potential Grand Theft Auto V players for their personal info. It's not what it seems however. Instead of joining a virtual religion, dropping your info (and, most crucially, a photograph) into the website instead inserts your name into a pool of potential characters for the upcoming open-world sandbox game. According to the "Terms" section of the viral site, the Epsilon Program is actually a sweepstakes of sorts, designed to give fans "an opportunity to be cast as one of five Epsilon Program members in Grand Theft Auto V."....

Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 01, 2013, 07:57:18 PM
                  How Much Does the Church of Scientology Spend on Advertising?

 The Church of Scientology has, for a long time, been putting a lot of money into advertising, most recently with the super expensive-looking Super Bowl ad embedded above and their disastrous attempt at running sponsored content in The Atlantic.
But if you're one of the five people in the world who doesn't use Adblock, you might have noticed that they sometimes pop up as the sponsored result when you google things.
So how much are they paying to do this?.....

Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 08, 2013, 08:43:25 AM
                                   David Miscavige: Valentine's Day Massacre/Purge       
Monday, 03 May 2010 07:20

In 1995 we were briefed at Int on a major security breach that had taken place at Incomm. Down in LA weeks later I saw a hunted pale platoon of Incomm crew being marched from a backlines corridor into a doorway. Back up at Int, David Miscavige bragged at a briefing to Int base staff that he was going to catch the spy and that the staff were undergoing an RTC ethics program that Miscavige was personally directing. As a note to these and any other ex-SO who were coerced to sign contracts for non-disclosure to enforce silence, you can determine the validity of all such documents with a simple test: were you provided with a copy of the contract or agreement? If not, then the "contract" is NOT binding and has NO legal force on you whatsoever. So let the power of truth ring out. ~ Thoughtful

                                               The DEATH of INCOMM...

Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 08, 2013, 08:46:22 AM
                                   Scientology Early Film - Video

    Those who were Co$ members in the 80's/90's may recall seeing this:

Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 12, 2013, 12:04:29 AM
                         WTF? OMG! BBQ!      Geir Isene

I have been quite active in a few Scientology-related forums lately. And the experience has been rather disturbing.

I have for years followed the FreeZone e-mail list, Marty Rathbun’s blog, the predominantly anti-Scientology forums ESMB and WWP, and since recently, several Scientologist groups on Facebook.

Wherever there are discussions on Scientology, polarity and irrationality ensues. That is well known. But my experiences over the past few weeks have uncovered another facet....

Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 14, 2013, 10:41:41 AM
 Uploaded to youtube on 10 May 2008

Pat Condell, avid atheist and enemy of religion, turns his attention to Scientology and Tom Cruise.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 16, 2013, 08:07:06 AM
            German federal court raps Google on the knuckles over autocomplete function

 It's as if it was planned - like a bad joke. It was and an entrepreneur's name was linked to Scientology, even though they claim never to have had anything to do with it.

The case made it to a German federal court, with the judges ruling in favor of the plaintiff. They say the entrepreneur suffered an infringement of his personal rights.

But it's not the first time that the search function has come under attack.

Its most prominent "victim" in Germany was Bettina Wulff, the wife of the former president Christian Wulff. When her name was googled, the search engine's autocomplete function would spit out phrases such as "red light district" and "escort."

Bettina Wulff wasn't having any of it. She went to the press and sued Google, claiming infringement of her personal rights.....

Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 16, 2013, 03:13:33 PM
                                    The Lynch Mob and the Creepy Church

By Geir Isene   plus 114 comments

Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 17, 2013, 08:26:41 AM
Thursday, 16 May 2013
                                                       Hubbard on epilepsy

By Johnny Jacobson

Post by: Ididntcomeback on June 01, 2013, 08:38:04 AM

                                   Scientology’s feeble attempt to strike back at FECRIS

Posted on May 31, 2013 by RobRobinson

Statement from the Church of Scientology in response to The Copenhagen Post article "Anti-cult conference planned in Scientology's backyard"

Copenhagen has been chosen as the location for the annual FECRIS conference, a get-together of extremist bigots, many of them with unsavory stories on their conscience when it comes to human rights. No government or agency calling themselves protectors or believers of human rights should be supporting this activity. Several FECRIS affiliated groups were taken to court on the grounds of hate speech or attempts to force members of new religious movements to give up their faith through kidnapping and deprogramming. 

The Churches of Scientology in Denmark protest against these foreign human rights violators coming to our country with their anti-religious hate and the fact that The Copenhagen Post uncritically promotes their campaign. Danish people are proud of being known internationally as defenders of human rights and religious freedom, The Copenhagen Post should do the same....

Post by: Ididntcomeback on June 14, 2013, 09:06:12 AM
                                               Infinite Complacency series on Narconon

I've just written up Tory's 'Magoo' Christman's battle with epilepsy -- and how
Scientology's quack treatment almost killed her -- at Infinite Complacency.

It draws mainly on her existing posts, with some supplementary
information from Tory, but I thought it worth doing because it is
an important issue and fits into the series I am currently developing
on Scientology's cavalier approach to epilepsy.

Scientology's insistence that Tory Christman give up her epilepsy
medication almost killed her, she says.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on June 17, 2013, 08:32:46 AM
                                            Scientology Faces Streisand Effect After Attacking Karen De La Carriere

Karen De La Carriere, who was once married to current Scientology president Heber Jentzsch, and left the Church in 2010, is under attack today by Scientology's infamous 'Office of Special Affairs' (OSA). Earlier today, Karen states:

"The "Church" removed my Donatella video. The OSA operative engaged in the dark Fair Game and Dirty Tricks, who permitted her son to develop $100 a day heroin habit. The video is propagating on the web and is already up on RYouTube."

By David Edgar Love Media Release - 06/16/2013 - The Anonymous 'collective' and others, are now uploading and re-posting the Video, causing a 'Streisand Effect' as seen in 2003 when Barbra Streisand, whose attempt in 2003 to suppress photographs of her residence in Malibu, resulted in nine million hits on YouTube.

Scientology faced another overwhelming protest back in 2008 when there was an attempt to suppress and remove material from a highly publicized interview with Scientologist Tom Cruise from the Internet in January 2008.

On January 14, 2008, a video produced by the Church of Scientology featuring an interview with Tom Cruise was posted on YouTube. In the video, music from Cruise's Mission: Impossible films plays in the background, and Cruise makes various statements, including saying that Scientologists are the only people who can help after a car accident, and that Scientologists are the authority on getting addicts off drugs.

The Church of Scientology asserted that the video material that had been leaked to YouTube and other websites was "pirated and edited" and taken from a three-hour video produced for members of Scientology.

YouTube removed the Cruise video from their site under threat of litigation. The web site did not take down their copy of the Tom Cruise video, and other sites have posted the entire video. Lawyers for the Church of Scientology sent a letter to requesting the removal of the video, but Nick Denton of stated: "It's newsworthy, and we will not be removing it."

On February 10, 2008, about 7,000 people protested in at least 100 cities worldwide against Scientology. Indeed, a Cult's worst nightmare.

When Karen De La Carriere's son died, Scientology neglected to inform her, and she had to find out from a friend, later confirming Alexander's death with the Los Angeles County Coroner's Office of her son's passing.

Most notable and upsetting to Karen, was Scientology's refusal allowed her to see her son's body at the morgue because she was declared a 'Suppressive Person' by the so-called 'church'.

In response to some private messages to Karen concerning the heroin addicted son of Donatella Kavenaar, Karen produced and posted a video response, suggesting 'Donatella' (Office of Special Affairs), is a "Monster Mother" - involved in the "dirty tricks" associated with 'OSA', instead of helping her son who is sleeping in a car, injecting heroin.

Donatella Kavenaar is the OSA operative who refused to let Karen see her son's body before cremation. Karen phoned Donatella's direct senior, Charlie Earl, and the one-way conversation is in this posted video:

"Charlie, listen to me, this is Karen De La Carriere with a one time phone call. You get Donatella Kavenaar off her ass and being a mother to her son so we don't have another kid dead at 27 years old like Alexander Jentzsch [Karen's son]. Donatella Kavenaar is busy doing dirty tricks, running dirty operations, and her son is fixing himself with heroin - a hundred dollars a day in a car. Handle it! And if you don't, I will go public with the story. You got it!? Bye!"

Karen insists that she "wants the world to know that while OSA executives are busy trying to destroy other people, you lift up the curtain, and what's under the curtain … a child that is a heroin addict."

"Shame on you, Donatella Kavenaar," says Karen De La Carriere.

See the embedded video below that Scientology wants removed from the internet.

David Edgar Love

Video here...

Post by: Ididntcomeback on June 19, 2013, 08:43:00 AM
                                                             Church of Scientology Lands in Takedown Hall of Shame

The Church of Scientology International (“CSI”) has often been accused of pulling out all the stops to suppress speech critical of the organization.  Surprisingly, however, they have not yet made it into the EFF Takedown Hall of Shame.

Until now. Last week, CSI demanded that GoDaddy take down a website,, that used parody and satire to tweak CSI, its alleged relationship to actor Will Smith, and its reportedly aggressive control over the activities of its members. The site included a letter, purportedly from Scientology leader David Miscavige, ordering CSI members to see After Earth, a new movie starring Will Smith that hasn’t done well at the box office, at least three times.  The site also demanded that CSI members make videos supporting Smith.

Pointing to the presence of CSI logos and a photograph of Mr. Miscavige on the site, CSI told GoDaddy the site violated CSI’s copyright and trademark rights, and asked the company to take it down. GoDady promptly complied. CSI also claimed that the creators of the site had violated California Penal Code section 528.5, which forbids the credible impersonation of a human person online. Section 528.5 was intended to be used to combat cyberbullying; as we anticipated, however, it’s now being used to target political speech.

As we explained in a letter to CSI, however, none of these claims holds water. With respect to the copyright allegations, the noncommercial site was obviously designed for purposes of criticism and comment.  It used no more than was necessary for its purpose, and caused no conceivable harm to any market for CSI works. In other words, it's precisely the kind of speech the fair use doctrine is intended to protect.

The trademark allegations are equally silly. The website simply uses parody and satire to comment on CSI, its reputation for controlling its members, and its alleged relationship to Will Smith, star of the film “After Earth.” That kind of speech is protected by a variety of legal doctrines, not to mention the First Amendment.

As one federal court put it, trademark law “regulates only economic, not ideological or political, competition . . . ‘Competition in the marketplace of ideas’ is precisely what the First Amendment is designed to protect.”

Finally, the claim that the site violated the California Penal Code is equally absurd. Section 528.5 applies only to “credible” impersonations. No viewer would think the site offered a credible impersonation of Mr. Miscavige—but perhaps CSI knows something we don’t?

Given the outrageousness of CSI complaint, it’s shocking that GoDaddy would respond without hesitation. Activists of all kinds should take heed and look for service providers with backbone. In the meantime, congratulations to CSI: you made it to the Hall of Shame at last.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on June 23, 2013, 12:32:22 PM
                                 Examiner writer joins documentary tour exposing Scientology

Examiner writer, David Love, accepted an invitation to join a 27 city tour in the United States this August, 2013, with Bert Leahy, Paul Salerno, and Colin Henderson.

Videographer, Bert Leahy and businessman, Colin Henderson, have been fine tuning the details for quite some time now, and the purpose of the tour is to film a Scientology expose documentary. Leahy hopes to interview ex-Scientologists in each city, and even church members brave enough to talk on camera. The general public will also be welcome to express their views.

Today, Colin Henderson confirmed the complex, colorful graphics that will ‘wrap’ the vehicle is almost complete and photos will be published soon. The goal is attract public and media attention to the abuses inside Scientology and their drug rehabs, Narconon.

Paul Jay Salerno from California hopes to join the ‘Tour’ and he told me earlier today that he feels there’s a 75% chance he will be there to support the effort.

Salerno says “I was at one of the first Anonymous protests in the California Bay area back in 2008. My father knew L. Ron Hubbard and Hubbard would visit my dad’s ‘Jazz Club’ and he warned me to stay away from LRH.”

“On February 10, 2008, about 7,000 people protested in at least 100 cities worldwide. Within 24 hours of the first protest, a search for "Scientology" and "protest" on Google Blog Search returned more than 4,000 results and more than 2,000 pictures on the image-sharing site Flickr.”

Paul’s dad remembered Hubbard as “half a fag that owed a $2,000 bar tab” he said in an interview earlier today.

Paul said he was never in Scientology, and “I’m just a Guy with a sign who shows up at ORGS [Scientology], with a picket sign and feel it’s my responsibility to inform the public.” The 2012 Dublin Conference in Ireland was happy to have Paul join in on the festivities and participate in a ‘Mega Raid” protest at the Dublin ORG.

Colin Henderson is well known for his relentless mission to have Narconon Arrowowhead in Oklahoma shut down and be held accountable for the several deaths inside the dangerous rehab center. I met Colin online in December 2010. He immediately struck me as a very caring, yet strong-minded young man, endowed with the determination of a well-equipped army.

Colin voiced a resolve for justice and a will to help others in distress. He is a man of empathy and compassion. During our first phone conversation, I knew Colin was a kind person, but one to be reckoned with if crossed.

The entire ‘Tour” across America will take about 12 days or so and the Examiner will be publishing the story as it unfolds.

David Edgar Love

Post by: Ididntcomeback on June 27, 2013, 07:48:17 AM
                                            Former Scientologist: CoS Told Brin It Wanted Only "Good" Search Results

"Former Scientologist at the highest level Geir Isene reveals that he was brought in to educate top Scientology officials about the Internet, and learned that they had met personally with Google's Sergey Brin (YouTube video), asking him if it were possible for the search giant to filter results so that only positive information about the church would be returned on the word 'Scientology.' You can imagine how that went over. Isene also says that he begged the church's officials to give him a full day to explain the Internet to them before they met with the Electronic Frontier Foundation, which had regularly criticized the church for its stands against Internet freedom. Apparently, the church is missing Isene's counsel, because just a few days ago, the EFF put the Church of Scientology into its 'Takedown Hall of Shame.' Last month Geir published his journey 'From Independent Scientologist to Just Me' under the GPL v3 license, recognising how being an open source advocate helped with that."

Post by: Ididntcomeback on June 29, 2013, 08:35:14 AM
                                Church Of Scientology Uses Copyright, Trademark, And Cyberbullying Laws To Silence Critical Parody

from the still-not-a-religion dept

For faith-based hilarity, you just can't do any better than the Church of Scientology. These photoshop masters have built for themselves the kind of reputation normally reserved for Stasi-style secret police. The constant target of Anonymous, ex-members, and every critical-thinking person on the planet are best known for gobbling up shallow celebrities, creepily persecuting critics and ex-members, and possessing the monumental testicles required to include a freaking space opera in their faith. As part of their attempts to silence critics, they've regularly run up against the wider internet, often using IP laws to gag speech.

Well, it turns out you just can't teach a kinda-old non-religion religion new tricks. Reader John alerts us to a case in which the Church of Scientology is using copyright, trademark and cyberbullying laws to silence a parody criticizing the "church", Will Smith, and the attempt to destroy film making commonly known as After Earth. Recently, they demanded that GoDaddy nix, which parodied the church and the film, over the use of their logos, a letter from church-leader David Miscavige, a photo of the same Miscavige, and a parody portrayal of Mr. Miscavige.
Pointing to the presence of CSI logos and a photograph of Mr. Miscavige on the site, CSI told GoDaddy the site violated CSI’s copyright and trademark rights, and asked the company to take it down. GoDaddy promptly complied. CSI also claimed that the creators of the site had violated California Penal Code section 528.5, which forbids the credible impersonation of a human person online. Section 528.5 was intended to be used to combat cyberbullying; as we anticipated, however, it’s now being used to target political speech.
As the EFF notes while placing the Church of Scientology on their takedown hall of shame list, we have some major problems here. First, the copyright claim fails on the grounds of fair use, since the use was critical parody, with only the necessary usage used therein. The trademark claim is also pitiful for many of the same reasons, though we can add that the website was not attempting to compete in the market of religion with the "church." As for the penal code claim, it is true that that law was meant to combat cyberbullying, but I think the EFF might be off when they say:
Finally, the claim that the site violated the California Penal Code is equally absurd. Section 528.5 applies only to "credible" impersonations. No viewer would think the site offered a credible impersonation of Mr. Miscavige.
Au contraire, bonjour. Given the absurdity of the actions by these clowns, it would take a great deal to convince me of anything in which they are not capable. However, I don't think their own depravity is reason for which they could be charged with cyberbullying.

So congratulations, Scientologists. You've now made the EFF hall of shame. And if you don't like how you're portrayed there or here, you can go audit yourselves.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on July 17, 2013, 04:22:20 PM
                                        How Scientology changed the internet
By Dave Lee

                  Technology reporter, BBC News

The Church of Scientology has made several moves to have its secret scriptures removed from the internet
What do Wikipedia, Wikileaks, Anonymous and copyright law have in common? The answer is they have all been influenced by the Church of Scientology International (CSI), as it took on ex-members and critics who took their protests onto the internet. As the Church successfully removes another website, just how big an influence has Scientology had on the internet we all use?

Last month digital rights activists at the influential Electronic Frontiers Foundation (EFF) placed the Church of Scientology into their hall of shame over for what it says were repeated acts against internet freedoms.

It was just the latest twist in the Church's long-running feud with "negative" Scientology content online, one that has lasted almost two decades.

Back in May 1994, at a time when most major organisations were yet to figure out how exactly to deal with the relatively unknown power of the internet, the Church's Elaine Siegel had a few ideas, outlined in a leaked email to "all Scientologists on the internet".

"I would like to ask your assistance in getting each one of you to post positive messages on the internet (at least once a week, more if you like), about Scientology," she wrote.

"If you imagine 40-50 Scientologists posting on the internet every few days, we'll just run the SP's [ex-members] right off the system.

"It will be quite simple, actually."

Or perhaps not.

'Censorship innovators'
Unsurprisingly, the Church of today is keen to distance itself from Ms Siegel's email.

"It is ancient history in terms of internet development," spokeswoman Karin Pouw told the BBC in a series of emails about the Church's relationship with the internet.

Continue reading the main story
What is Scientology?

L Ron Hubbard
Scientology was founded in Los Angeles in the 1950s by a science fiction author, L. Ron Hubbard (above).

He said human beings contained the souls of Thetans - immortal creatures responsible for making the universe.

However, the world has been invaded by dark forces - the Engrams - and individuals can be cleansed and enlightened only through intense therapy called Dianetics.

It is a costly process and the Scientologists expect their adherents to donate considerable sums.

In the US, where Scientology has attracted a number of Hollywood celebrities, it enjoys the full rights of a recognized religion.

But in Europe, several governments - including the UK - have denied Scientology tax exemptions enjoyed by other churches.

"The e-mail in no way reflects or represents the Church's current relationships with IT professionals or our use of the internet to provide information about Scientology to anyone who seeks it."

She's right - the Church has moved on, instead seeking new ways to have "negative" content removed from the web.

"They're kind of innovators in finding ways to censor the internet," said Dr Martin Poulter from the University of Bristol.

Dr Poulter is a lead trainer for Wikimedia UK, the British arm of the non-profit organisation which looks after Wikipedia, and often edits its Scientology pages - something the Church is no longer able to do.

"Scientology was the first organisation to be officially banned from Wikipedia," he says, referring to the landmark decision in 2009.

"There were several different accounts making very similar contributions and advancing pro-Scientology lines, or deleting anti-Scientology stuff."

Dr Poulter's first experience with the Church's actions online came in the early 90s when he was browsing a newsgroup called alt.religion.scientology, a place where critics and ex-members were posting information on the Church.

"The reaction from the Church of Scientology was that it went really beserk," recalls Dr Poulter.

With the help of local authorities, houses belonging to newsgroup users across the US were raided, with computer equipment being seized for weeks on end.

"The days of the internet as a cozy, private, intellectual cocktail party are over," technology magazine Wired prophetically declared in 1995.

'Encourage tolerance'
Scientology officials remember those early days with a slightly different perspective.

"The Church at that time had been a pioneer in religious website development," said Ms Pouw, but she admitted to the BBC that there had been concern about hate speak.

So much so, the Church took internet service providers such as Netcom to court over users that were posting copyrighted works online in order to attack Scientology.

Netcom retaliated, saying it could not be expected to screen everything its users were posting - a defence now frequently utilised by large sites like YouTube.....

Post by: Ididntcomeback on July 24, 2013, 08:51:38 AM
                                                     Stanley Kubricks Daughter Lost to Scientology?

 PFrom Jon RonsonsBook: "Lost at Sea".Perhaps I knew this before, because as I was reading along, and why would I suspect Scientology before I got to the end of that first sentence?. Does anyone know the status of Vivian at this point?

"I never met their youngest daughter, Vivian. There was mention of her being in Los Angeles, but I sensed I shouldn't ask about it because something had happened. Vivian had once been a big presence in the family. When she was 17, she directed a brilliant documentary, The Making of The Shining. When she was 24, she composed the score for Full Metal Jacket. She shot 18 hours of behind-the-scenes footage for that film too, but it was never edited. You catch glimpses of her in the rushes I once got to watch: beautiful, effervescent,
"She is a fabulous person," says Christiane. "Beautiful, very witty, enormously talented in all sorts of directions, very musical, a great mimic, she could play instruments easily, she could sing, she could dance, she could act, there wasn't anything she couldn't do. We had fights. But she was hugely loved. And now I've lost her." She pauses. "You know that? I used to keep all this a secret as I was hoping it would go away. But now I've lost hope. So. She's gone."
It all began, she says, while Stanley was editing Eyes Wide Shut, which starred Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman. Stanley asked Vivian to compose the score, but at the last moment she said she wouldn't. Instead, she disappeared into San Francisco and Los Angeles. "They had a huge fight. He was very unhappy. He wrote her a 40-page letter trying to win her back. He begged her endlessly to come home from California. I'm glad he didn't live to see what happened."
On the day of Stanley's funeral, Christiane says, Vivian arrived with a woman nobody recognised. "She just sat in Vivian's room. Never said hello to us. Just sat. We were all spooked. Who was this person? Turns out she was a Scientology something-or-other, don't know what."
"Did Vivian give a reason why she joined the Scientologists?" I ask.
"It's her new religion," Christiane shrugs. "It had absolutely nothing to do with Tom Cruise by the way. Absolutely not." "Maybe it was her way of dealing with her fathers death?" "I think she must have been very upset," Christiane says, but, again, I wouldn't know. I know nothing. This is the truth. I can't reach her at all. I've had two conversations with her since Stanley died. The last one was eight years ago. She became a Scientologist and didn't want to talk to us anymore and didn't see her dying sister, didn't come to her funeral. (Her sister Anya died of cancer age fifty.) And these were children that had been joined at the hip .Christiane second guesses if Stanley would have handled Vivian differently.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on July 29, 2013, 11:15:13 AM
                                  Scientology Cult of Confusion documentary filming next week

Texan, Bert Leahy, the videographer who was hired by Scientology as a Squirrel Buster to harass former Scientology executive, Marty Rathbun, will begin filming Scientology documentary next week.

A man with a passion for truth who pours his heart out to help others, denounced the evil that Scientology's thugs were perpetrating against Rathbun, and now intends to warn the public, media, and government agencies about Scientology's dangerous and abusive organization. Press Release - 07/28/2013 - This ambitious filming endeavor, August 5-17, 2013, begins with a 27-city tour through America's heartland beginning in Oklahoma, up to New York, and back down to Texas.

Joining Bert Leahy is Colin Henderson, Ex-Narconon patient and victim advocate -- a man with the epic business management and logistical skills. Ex-Narconon patient and staff member, David Love, now a writer for the Montreal Examiner, will tag along to document the event. These three comrades met and worked together at the Narconon Arrowhead protest August 2012.

Leahy hopes to interview ex-Scientologists in each city on the itinerary, even church members brave enough to talk on camera. Members of the general public will also be welcome to express their views. To date, numerous ex-Scientologists, Narconon victims, and individuals have been contacted for interviews.

The Tour will provide a great time capsule to gage where the Scientology protest movement is today through the eyes of 3 unique Scientology victims networking with other Scientology victims and ex-Scientologists across North America and abroad. The goal is to cover all sides, with all opinions welcome.

Scientology is well known for their human rights violation, and Leahy's documentary film is directed at exposing Scientology's front groups, Narconon, Citizens Commission on Human Rights, Association for Better Living and Education, and several more.

Tour participants believe and insist that Scientology's tax exemption should once again be revoked, as it was previously in a 1967 IRS audit.

Interviews will address Scientology's barbaric policy doctrines of Disconnection (shunning), Dead Agenting, Fair Game, and the coerced/forced abortions in the Sea Organization - Scientology's quasi-navy, now land-locked in Florida.

Post editing, Bert Leahy will be submitting "Scientology - Cult of Confusion" to film festivals on the silver screen and has high hopes of sooner rather than later.

David Edgar Love

Post by: Ididntcomeback on July 29, 2013, 10:41:39 PM
                                                                    Behind Scientology's Veil

It's muggy and the heavens open. I hurry past 42nd street towards the imposing building that is the Church of Scientology.

It soars, not in terms of size, but its presence is commanding as if making a definitive statement.

Somehow it dwarfs the many theatres and restaurants that dot the hub of New York City's entertainment district.

It's a surreal scene, near impossible to fathom.

I am greeted with utmost cordiality as I await the Reverend Verlene Cheeseboro, the church's public affairs officer.

She is apologetic for not having been the first to welcome me. She is African American, petite but striking, wisdom etched in her countenance.

For a moment, I am taken aback. Surely, this is not the face of Scientology, the organisation that is known to court the well-heeled. Hollywood celebrities, the likes of Tom Cruise, John Travolta, Kirstie Alley, Jenna Elfman, Greta Van Susteren and Leah Remini are outspoken members.

I am dead wrong, according to Cheeseboro.

"We are about to open a Scientology church in Harlem and we have a strong presence and impressive centre in the inner city of Englewood, California." I stand corrected.

As I am given a tour of the premises, she relates the influence of the church in her life.

Born a Baptist, Cheeseboro joined Scientology in 1998.

"It was a decision that revolutionised and shaped my view of myself, mankind and the world."

She has worked in Harlem and is proud of helping at-risk children learn and form healthy identities using the resources garnered from the philosophical teachings of L. Ron Hubbard, the church's founder.

Scientology, she is convinced, is for everybody, but "the benefits to battered black communities are immeasurable".

She touts the organisation's work to reduce inner-city violence and the proliferation of drugs among young people.

"Scientology," she notes, "is also committed to educating children on the Declaration of Human Rights. A document that so many of us are oblivious of."

Understandably, Hubbard is revered and his likeness is visible on every floor.

In his honour, a vacant but well appointed office is a fixture in every church.

repository of teachings

We ride the elevator to the higher floors, at times preferring to take the stairs. Each floor serves as a repository of Scientology's several philosophical teachings.

We move from the Public Course Room, a multimedia complex on the ground floor where the basic teachings of the church is taught.

As the neophyte increases in knowledge, the doors to wisdom is ever open.

More advanced teachings are promulgated on the second floor, its setting conjuring images of a college. Trained personnel abound.

I am quieted when we open the doors to the Guidance Centre. "This is where individuals in need of healing come," I am told.

It is where auditing takes place. An apparent recording from an authoritative male voice resounds throughout the floor piercing the silence, but I am unable to decipher the words.

"We have to move along," Cheeseboro advises.

My curiosity is piqued. I ask about auditing. "It means to listen," she says. "If we listen to ourselves, we will know the answers and solutions to everything, all our problems."

It's cryptic, especially for one unfamiliar with the fundamental tenets of the church.

She then assails psychiatry as a pseudo science that has destroyed lives with over-reliance on drugs, resurrecting images of Tom Cruise who was equally caustic on 'The Today Show', NBC's popular morning programme.

I am later promised literature on Dianetics, the book that catapulted Hubbard on the global stage and helped launch the Church of Scientology.

To my surprise, he proved to be a remarkably prolific and impressive writer on subjects ranging from theology and ethics to business and technology.

That much is evident as I tour the library, bookstore and gift shop. The Chapel is off limits, at least for the time I am there. There are people going in. Some event is in progress. I am none the wiser.

But I am offered a glimpse of their 'Bible', titled, The Background, Ministry, Ceremonies and Sermons of the Scientology Religion - a voluminous work that includes teachings on ethics and survival, the human mind, responsibility, states of existence and more.

Cheeseboro describes the church service with a measure of nonchalance.

"It's like any other religious service, but a lot more interactive." A sermon is read and explained and questions are fielded from the congregants.

"And yes, we pray and ask for God's guidance," she asserts, astutely anticipating my next enquiry on the church's theology.

"You can keep your religion and be a scientologist. We have Jews, Muslims and Christians of all sects who are members."

On eschatology and karma, she is vague and non-committal.

"We are spirits and we pass on from this body to another existence."

heaven and hell do not exist

But of heaven and hell, she is unambiguous.

"No, they do not exist," adding, "we are spiritual beings who are essentially good, and evil in itself does not exist."

I need some clarification. "We do evil acts," she responds, "but our essence is not evil."

Cheeseboro explains evil action as the consequence of the "reactive mind," a state of instability that emerges from an incident or experience of which the individual is unaware.

"Auditing," she says "can identify and erase the root of the reactive mind."

We move on to the Purification area, where an intriguing form of wellness is in session.

This process of cleansing the body of toxins can take three to six weeks.

During that time, the client is treated for five hours daily. Treatment entails the ingestion of niacin and a host of other vitamins and minerals; a cardiovascular routine and intermittent periods in the sauna under the guidance of trained personnel.

It is an expensive procedure, but it is said to achieve remarkable results.

Equally interesting is Narconon, a treatment centre for alcohol and drug addiction.

Now on the final leg of the tour, I am handed a magazine called FLAG and given a brief explanation of its content.

It outlines the pearls, the core of Scientology's most advanced training which is undertaken in Florida in a facility of jaw-dropping opulence.

The material speaks of the "infinitesimal potential of the human spirit".

It's ontological in scope and philosophically esoteric, enigmatic - almost coded - scrambling the mind of the uninitiated.

Although this is hardly a reason to label the organisation a cult, one can understand why many of its detractors are emboldened to condemn its teachings in the harshest terms.

I continue to scan the pages with one item immediately catching my attention. The words prove perplexing.

"You are about to embark on the most intense adventure in all the eons of your existence - the rediscovery and rehabilitation of your true 'OT' abilities."

Operating Thetan

OT stands for Operating Thetan, an evolved spiritual state.

"OT III has been called the make-break point for a thetan. It is here you know the truth and are freed from the overwhelm of the great catastrophe 75 million years ago that has trapped and crippled all beings in this sector of the universe and reduced civilisation to a desert."

And the testimonials of the programme glow: "OT III ... is like being sunk into the ocean gradually coming up. I feel reborn as a thetan. I am getting used to my new self ... I feel so light ... I want everyone to do this level," writes one member.

And the spiritual evolution continues with OT IV and OT V training.

But suspicions and condemnation of the group persist. Beyond Belief: My Secret Life Inside Scientology and My Harrowing Escape by Lisa Pulitzer and Jenna Miscavige Hill are just two of the many books by ex-Scientologists that have attacked the group.

They contain grave allegations of brainwashing, forcing members to dissociate from family members, blacklisting and unsettling interrogation of members who do not sheepishly tow the line.

The harassment of former members, and worse, are also included.

I raise the issue with Cheeseboro. She is unmoved and is dismissive of every scurrilous charge thrown their way.

She is taciturn for the most part. Her response is curt, "ridiculous".

There is nothing to respond to," adds Cheeseboro.

I do not press further, nor am I about to dabble in hearsay and sensationalism.

But surely, the Church of Scientology is a regimented outfit that promotes an inscrutable mélange of philosophy, contemporary thought, social science, theology, and metaphysics.

These are well fitted within a Sci-Fi carapace.

A wondrously compelling but disturbing brew from the brilliant mind of L. Ron Hubbard.

Send feedback to or follow him on Twitter@glenvilleashby. Dr Ashby is the president of the Trinidad and Tobago Interfaith Council International.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on July 29, 2013, 10:45:29 PM
                                     Scientologist claims leader David Miscavige Squirreling Hubbard Policy

Breaking news in a leaked email today has another ex-Scientologist claiming Scientology leader, David Miscavige, is violating L. Ron Hubbard's sacred doctrines and policy.

Former Executive Director of Scientology Montreal, Pierre Robillard, sent an email to over 200 Quebec Scientologists and was posted on July 28, 2013 on the website.

By David Edgar Love

Robillard criticizes David Miscavige's ideal org program, with particular reference to Montreal, Quebec City, and Cambridge, Ontario.

In an unofficial translation of a message written in French, Robillard sends a scathing message to Scientology members.

He claims: "I've been out of the traditional Church of Scientology since November 2012. I am an independent Scientologist. The purpose of this letter is to communicate my disagreement vis-à-vis the way the present-day interpretation of the policy letter titled "The Ideal Org."

Debbie Cook, who served in the Sea Org at Flag for 29 years, wrote a similar attack email against David Miscavige on New Years' eve, December 31, 2011.

Both Cook and Robillard, want Scientologists to question staff executives where all their donations are going or disappearing to?

Cook stated in her email: "Stop supporting any of the activities that are being done to forward off-policy fund-raising in your area."

In Pierre Robillard's leaked email, he states: "Nowhere in the LRH HCO PL do we find any reference to the IAS, much less to the status of Patron, Humanitarian, or OT Ambassador. The PLs regarding memberships mention dues of $30 a year or $75 for a lifetime."

Robillard questions Miscavige's push to have Ideal Org churches opened around the globe and specifically directs attention to Montreal:

"Now let's suppose that the building on Saint Catherine Street becomes the Montreal ideal org. Who will own it? Not the Montreal org. Not the parishioners who funded everything. As in the United States, unknown lawyers will take over. As everywhere else, the electrical and phone bills will be much higher — on top of having to pay a percentage each week to Landlord International to occupy the building."

Even though Pierre Robillard is well aware of being attacked by Scientology, saying that "I'm a rebel, that I'm an apostate," he urges members to "apply the policy letters" written by Scientology founder, L. Ron Hubbard.

Robillard also says "they will say I'm a squirrel," but I would rather be a squirrel than not applying to the letter the policy" written by Hubbard.

Many independent Scientologists who left the church in disgust, feel that David Miscavige is the one squirreling L. Ron Hubbard's written policy, and should be removed from his dictatorship as leader.

David Edgar Love

Post by: Ididntcomeback on July 31, 2013, 08:11:36 AM
                                                      Anonymous Berlin Vs Scientology 21.07.2013

Post by: Ididntcomeback on July 31, 2013, 07:44:35 PM
Process Church, Jack Parsons, Hubbard mentioned in "The secret Space program"
Mr Peter Lavenda
"The secret Space program" - Hubbard, Parsons, Crowley, Process Church and UFOs... and I'm only at 15 minute mark and decided to share this...

Arnie Lerma

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 02, 2013, 11:43:08 PM
                                                                      Stars Who Quit Scientology

                                                                                 TV GUIDE

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 03, 2013, 10:40:25 AM
                                                                 FORBES MAGAZINE

                                          Did Scientology Critic Get Turned Down By IRS For Church Status?

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 05, 2013, 05:10:11 PM
                                                Scientology ‘Cult of Confusion’ begins filming tomorrow


A dedicated crew is working around the clock to make ready for an “adventure of a lifetime journey”, said one commenter on Facebook today. The “Cult of Confusion” documentary will begin filming tomorrow, August 5, 2013, in Oklahoma, then up to New York and back down to Texas....

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 06, 2013, 04:50:52 PM
                                     Mary Applebey obituary

.....From relatively insignificant beginnings Mary developed NAMH to become hugely influential, employing 200 people and regularly consulted by government, the judiciary, the NHS and social work organisations. In the early 70s she had a fierce battle with the Church of Scientology, which is opposed to psychiatric treatment and sought to destroy NAMH by flooding it with new members. However, Mary finally won in the High Court in a case that proved seminal for the law relating to charities. Her immense contribution to the development of public awareness of the problems of people with mental illness was recognised when she was made a CBE in 1975, by which time the organisation had become Mind. She was a vice-president of Mind until she died....

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 20, 2013, 03:39:13 AM
                                                      Chicago Protests Scientology - August 2013

Post by: Ididntcomeback on September 04, 2013, 08:59:34 AM

                                                Church of Scientology Leader David Miscavige Tells Court — I’m Being Harassed!
Posted on Sep 3, 2013

Post by: Ididntcomeback on September 22, 2013, 10:50:21 PM
                                                    Police Called During a Human Rights Conference By The Church of Scientology Buffalo


Post by: Ididntcomeback on September 30, 2013, 05:25:23 PM
                         David Miscavige cult of Scientology tearing families apart

September 29, 2013
Micro-managed by cult of Scientology leader, David Miscavige, Scientology continues its war against critics who speak out and tell their stories of abuse and being disconnected from family members. Children are separated from fathers and mothers, sisters are shunned by siblings, and families are torn apart for years and decades.

All of this horror because of a modern day cult that thrives on instilling intimidation, harassment, and fear in a battle set in stone by founder, L. Ron Hubbard, and forwarded by, who many call, a ‘sociopath dictator of evil’.

Lori Hodgson has been fighting this battle for a long time – not being able to have a relationship with her children who are still in Scientology; her children being ‘handled’ by Scientology staff insisting her children not to talk to her.

I was in communication with Lori today, asking her for comments about how she feels today. She told me that many have commented (some good, some not so positive) about her fight to have her kids back in her life and stated – with permission to publish:

“Hi David, one person said what you’re [Lori Hodgson] doing is not working and that's why you don't have your kids. Then another said no matter how much you love your kids if you keep doing what you’re doing they won't come back. At first I felt like I got knocked down by a bulldozer but then I got back up realizing that I am making a difference and people are reading my story and watching my videos … I will never stop speaking out the truth…”

Tony Ortega, from the ‘Underground Bunker’, covered Lori’s story, and wrote: “Because Hodgson dared to meet with Rathbun, her children and their father “disconnected” from her. In Scientology, when someone — like Rathbun or Hodgson — is excommunicated, they are “declared” a “suppressive person.” All other church members in good standing must completely cut off ties from an “SP” or their own status in the church is threatened.”

“Hodgson wasn’t willing to do that. She was done with Scientology for good. So her two children, Jessica and Jeremy Leake, completely cut off ties with her and with her parents.”

Lori Hodgson wrote an open letter to David Miscavige, part of which is in the photo image above and the rest as follows:

“I hold you [David Miscavige] responsible for breaking up my family. I have been disconnected from my daughter, Jessica and my son, Jeremy since February 6, 2011. I miss my children terribly and what you have done is beyond cruel.

I’m not only speaking for my own situation, but for all the families that have been destroyed by this practice.

I’m asking that you find some human decency within yourself to end disconnection once and for all.

All you have to do is make one phone call to your executives and tell them you’ve called off the policy and that you’ll allow disconnected families to reunite again – please do what is right.”

Loris Hodgson’s story is not unique or uncommon for anyone familiar with numerous Scientology headline news stories over the past few years. Indeed, it is much worse than most people think.

David Edgar Love

Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 01, 2013, 07:37:52 AM
                                          The inimitable John Sugg surfaces as editor of Church of Scientology-backed ‘Freedom’ magazine

Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 01, 2013, 04:06:39 PM
                                                                Protest at Scientology's Big Blue, Part 1

Published on 29 Sep 2013
9/28/13 - Friends gather together to protest at Scientology's PAC Base compound in Hollywood; Scilon guards chase staff into buildings to avoid protesters; Tory has a chat with the Scilon staffer assigned to monitor & photograph protesters, Alethia Taylor, who was L Ron Hubbard's personal secretary.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 04, 2013, 02:44:28 PM
                                                                 Three Alarm Fire Burns Former Grandwick Mansion

DALLAS (CBSDFW.COM) - An East Dallas mansion that once housed the Church of Scientology was engulfed in flames Thursday afternoon.

The large two story home, located at 9401 Dixie Lane, was reported on fire around 4:30 in the afternoon with flames and black smoke visible from the roof.

A Dallas Fire Rescue spokesperson says the roof’s material was trapping the fire inside the home and slowing down firefighter’s efforts to pour water on it from above.


                            Scientology's Old Celebrity Centre in East Dallas Burned Down Yesterday

Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 07, 2013, 04:24:01 PM
                                        Scientology exposed everyday on Tony Ortega’s Underground Bunker (Video)

ctober 6, 2013 
Earlier today, Tony Ortega published his Sunday funnies page on his ‘Underground Bunker’ website, “… thanking Bunker regulars “Bury The Nuts” and Dee “DeElizabethan” Findlay for tracking down a copy of the new “Florida Edition” of Freedom magazine for us yesterday.”

“Tony Ortega (born 1963) is an American journalist and blogger who is best known for his daily blog about the Church of Scientology. From 2007 to 2012, he was the editor-in-chief of The Village Voice. Previously, he had been the editor-in-chief of the Broward-Palm Beach New Times from 2005 to 2007.”

Ortega stated that he is working on a book about Scientology, and when I commented to him about it in Connecticut a couple months ago when we attended an SP party, we both rolled our eyes and smiled. Indeed, writing about Scientology can lead one down many rabbit holes.

From the many emails, private messages, and phone calls with Tony Ortega, I know him as a serious ‘fact-checker’ for everything he writes and publishes. Ortega’s a serious guy when digging up dirt on the cult, but also has a very humorous side, as seen in his following posts today:

“We could tell you that Scientology has a virulent hatred of psychiatry and thinks it’s doing the world a service by blaming the Holocaust on “psychs” and attacking the pharmaceutical industry. But you probably know that already, so we thought we’d do something more fun and imagine if this magazine had been put together by people who had a very different view of drugs and took them by the handful.

Imagine the possibilities…

“While Floridians Sigh, Psychiatrists Crossfit”

– “The Radisson Parvenu of Smug Harkening”

– “Opium, Morphine, Heroin, Oxycodone: Four Swinging Sisters”

– “A Segmented Worm Against Bugs”

OK, maybe that’s a bad idea. Let’s just forget the whole thing. Freedom seems destined to slip into obscurity anyway, so we won’t spend any more time thinking about it.

Instead, let’s get back to our regular weekly feature, Sunday Funnies, when we reveal the Scientology mailers that have been forwarded to us by our network of tipsters.”

Ortega took well earned, first place honours at the previous 2 SP Parties in Connecticut at Pooks annual event – attracting SPs from several countries.

In the imbedded video of Ortega giving his acceptance speech, he says; “I’m a reporter covering a story, it’s very nice to hear that I’m fair. I do write stories that I believe are very fair to Scientology … I write stories that anger Ex’s, write stories that anger Indies – I think that’s my job …”

I think many would agree that Tony Ortega is a man of integrity, writes the truth about the cult of Scientology, and is appreciated and loved by many.

David Edgar Love

Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 09, 2013, 08:15:07 AM
                                                 Scientology representative talks to Clearwater residents, says little

CLEARWATER — A Scientology official didn't have much to say about recent church activities, but she told a gathering of Clearwater neighborhood activists Monday that answers would be coming soon.

A new date for the dedication of the massive Flag Building downtown, which the church had originally tentatively planned for Oct. 6, will be made public "very shortly," said church spokeswoman Pat Harney.

"It's going to happen soon. It's something we're all looking forward to. I assure you that it's a bright future, not just for Scientology, but for all of us here," Harney said.

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That answer didn't satisfy some at the Clearwater Neighborhood Coalition meeting.

"We've been hearing that for several years," said one person.

"Will it be by the end of the year?" asked another.

"Absolutely," Harney said.

City officials were scheduled to meet with church representatives on Tuesday, but no final decision will be made at the meeting, said Christopher Hubbard, chairman of the city's special events committee.

The church and city agree that shutting down streets and closing sidewalks will only work on a Sunday.

Only three Sundays remain open during the city's busy festival season — Oct. 27, Nov. 17 and Nov. 24.

Other weekends have events drawing people downtown. In fact, the city's first "World Rescue Challenge," an international competition for firefighters and other rescue workers, will begin on Oct. 27.

But World Rescue officials told the city that they wouldn't mind having a major Scientology celebration on the same day, Hubbard said. On Tuesday, a Scientology-affiliated charter school, the Clearwater Academy International, announced that it was assembling a team of current and former students to participate in the rescue event.

In August, the church applied for a special event permit that would have required street and sidewalk closures on Oct. 6. Last month, the church told the city to scrap that date.

City e-mails show flashes of tension between the city and the church.

In late September, Scientology representative Peter Mansell e-mailed City Manager Bill Horne to complain about news coverage of the delay, saying the Oct. 6 date had only been a placeholder. Horne replied that the city had to treat the date seriously, as the church hadn't provided the city any other options or information.

Earlier in the month, Parks and Recreation Director Kevin Dunbar, whose department handles special event permits, characterized the church as "being less than cooperative in providing what is needed."

"Need to know how much leash I have," he wrote to Assistant City Manager Jill Silverboard.

The church could open the building without city approval, but it wouldn't have police protection, street closures and other measures designed to make large events go smoothly.

Church officials have estimated that up to 10,000 Scientologists will attend the event. On Monday, Harney said the church has 10,000 members in the greater Clearwater area, including 2,400 religious workers.

Harney said the seven-story structure also known as the "Super Power" building is to Scientologists what the Vatican represents for Catholics or the Mormon Tabernacle to Mormons. The building, which she said will be used for "Scientology counseling and studies," has spiritual significance for church members.

After construction started in the building in 1998, it stalled for years, eventually resulting in city fines totaling $413,500.

Residents also asked Harney about the recent $3.1 million purchase of part of the "Super Block," long touted by downtown dreamers as key for reviving the moribund area.

A common thought among downtown observers is that the church bought the property on Osceola Avene and Drew Street to trade for a Clearwater Marine Aquarium parcel that it desires on Pierce Street near City Hall.

The church has no announcements to make on that subject at this point, Harney said. "We'll see what happens."

Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 11, 2013, 09:07:31 PM
                                            Machete Kills: Movie Review

Cast: Danny Trejo, Lady Gaga, Amber Heard, Mel Gibson, Alexa Vega, Sofia Vergara, Charlie Sheen, Antonio Banderas, Michelle Rodriguez


After breathing life into a character which appeared as part of the Planet Terror / Death Proof faux trailers, and scoring box office gold with a spin off, Machete (Danny Trejo) returns once again.....

...Carlos Estevez (aka The winning Charlie Sheen) is wooden as the US President and Mel Gibson is utterly banal and unconvincing as the bad guy (with Rodriguez slyly hinting at Scientology but not bothering to go the full hog);....

Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 11, 2013, 11:50:28 PM
                                                                     Scientology donors can’t claim tax credits

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A Canadian taxpayer who made $24,800 in charitable donations to the International Association of Scientologists has been denied tax credits by the Tax Court of Canada because the IAS is not a registered charity.

Nigel Hall argued that he had been unlawfully discriminated against because other Canadians had access to tax credits if they chose to donate to registered charities. Income Tax Act provisions requiring a “qualified donee,” he maintained, violate the Charter of Rights.

But the court ruled that there was no Charter breach because no one who donated to non-registered charities was entitled to tax credits. The statutory scheme of registered charities also did not offend the Charter because no specific group was barred from applying for registration.

Interestingly, there was no dispute that IAS conducted what were normally considered charitable or charitable-like activities. Because IAS was not created or established in Canada, however, it is unlikely that it could have qualified for registration – - – although the Tax Court does not deal with this question.

“The decision is [also] silent on the more interesting point of whether IAS could create a Canadian entity and apply for and obtain charitable registration,” notes William Innes of Rueter Scargall Bennett in William Innes on Tax Litigation. If, on the other hand, the application were denied would that possibly give rise to a Charter violation?”

Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 16, 2013, 02:12:39 PM
                                   Scientologist Brad Halsey slams Tom Cruise and David Miscavige

A video posted last night with Brad Halsey slamming Tom Cruise and David Miscavige, titled 'Message to Tom Cruise - Please Forward', claims David Miscavige is lying to Scientologists in so-called 'good standing'. Press Release - 10/15/2013 - In a Skype interview tonight between David Love in Montreal, and Brad Halsey in Tampa Bay, Florida, Halsey claims "David Miscavige has ruined thousands of lives and Tom Cruise is living in a fog."

Halsey says he's still a Scientologist, but is against the corporate structure under the dictatorship of David Miscavige.

When asked "why he went after Tom Cruise", Halsey replied: "After everything Tom Cruise had with Katie Holmes and his cute little daughter, Suri, just think what that guy [Tom Cruise] lost. In the video, I mention that Miscavige is a life wrecker … he ruined Tom Cruise's life, and I don't even think Tom Cruise knows. He's probably spinning around in a 'London-Fog' – not knowing Miscavige ruined his life."

"Remember, this is the second wife Cruise has lost -- Nicole Kidman was the first," said Halsey tonight.

Brad Halsey now works for a software company in Tampa Bay, Florida, right over the bridge from Scientology's mecca, Clearwater. "I live 35 minutes from 'FLAG' in downtown Clearwater," Halsey said with a chuckle.

When asked for his opinion about the future of David Miscavige as Scientology's leader, Halsey replied, "Like any pirate, he [Miscavige] rules with fear, and for that reason alone, I think he can actually keep going quite far with this. Because the people he's got hood-winked, are disciplined in not listening to any public point of view about Scientology. So, they have no clued about what's going on – they're not interested in even looking. That keeps the flock in line and I don't see that changing anytime soon. They are the classic sheep-like flock."

In the embedded video, Halsey sends Tom Cruise the following message:

"In closing, Tom, I just want to say one more thing to you. You were married to a beautiful young woman named Katie Holmes, and she bore you a beautiful, vibrant, baby girl named, Suri. And you had it all, Bro … and you blew it man. You are too blind to see the truth that Katie Holmes herself could all too easily see."

David Edgar Love

Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 22, 2013, 10:59:53 AM
                                Saint Hill Is Now A Country House Wedding Venue

Looks like advertising Saint Hill as the home of Scientology may not be paying off too well so they're marketing it as a wedding venue.

Notice the lack of any mention of Scientology.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 26, 2013, 08:09:08 AM
                                        Photos from yesterday w/ Tony, Mark Bunker and Magoo

I zoomed down to the Courthouse when I read on Tony Ortega's Underground
Bunker that "This is going to go all day" ( Laura DeCrescenzo's law suit re enforced abortions).
Here's yesterdays blow-by-blow from Tony O in the courtroom.


Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 05, 2013, 07:38:34 AM
                                                          Michelle Pfeiffer: I Was In a Cult!
By Allison Moore

Washington, D.C. (November 4, 2013) - Editor's Note: TV's Answer Woman, aka Allison Moore, takes your questions regarding TV stars and shows. If you have a question about TV entertainment, ask TV's Answer Woman by sending an e-mail to
Q.  Michelle Pfeiffer seems so down to earth. What's this I hear about her once being in a cult? Was it the scientologists? -- Denise, Fairfax, Virginia.

Denise, you're right. Michelle Pfeiifer is regarded as one of the nicest and most grounded people in Hollywood. (And we could use a few more of them, let me tell you.) But the 55-year-old actress just admitted in an interview with The Sunday Telegraph that he once belonged to a cult!

The newspaper reports that Michelle said it happened when she was 20 and she had just moved to Hollywood. She met a husband and wife who believed that people could live on air. That's right. Air. No food. Just air. Well, almost. The couple did permit the eating of the occasional vegetable. How sweet of them. They called their little cult, Breatharianism.

"They worked with weights and put people on diets," she recalls. "Their thing was vegetarianism. They were very controlling. I wasn't living with them but I was there a lot and they were always telling me I needed to come more. I had to pay for all the time I was there so it was financially very draining."

Michelle finally realized that she was in a cult when she met her first husband, the actor Peter Horton, who was working on  movie about cults.

"I was in one," she said.

The news might surprise you but many young impressionable actors and actresses are easily influenced when first arriving in Hollywood and get mixed up with all kinds of crazy things. Yes, even Scientology, Denise.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 15, 2013, 02:26:03 PM
                              America's Biggest Infomercial Conman Owes The FTC $US37 Million And Is Now In Jail

Story and video...

Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 23, 2013, 04:03:44 PM
                              Visit NY Scientology church, get harassed for the rest of your life

(This is Part 1 of a two-part article)

A while back, after reading this New Yorker article about the Church of Scientology, I decided to pay the Church a visit myself. There was no way that all the allegations made in this article could be true, I thought. No way that the entire organization is this crazy.

That was over two years ago. Since then, I have routinely received harassing phone calls, emails, and text messages from employees and volunteers of the Church.

It all started, in April of 2011, with an email exchange. I went to the Scientology website, found the closest church, and emailed them. I expressed interest in visiting the church and learning more about Scientology. My only concern, I noted, was cost: I had heard that Scientology can charge practitioners a lot of money, and I didn't want to spend too much on something I was just curious about.

The response I received, from a church volunteer named Sarah, should have been my first warning: ....

Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 24, 2013, 06:10:38 AM
                                                David Gaiman has died

Daivd Gaiman, father of Neil Gaiman, , has died.

He was a PR flak for CoS in London. There's posts about him in the various London protest threads.

My condolences to the family for their loss.

I'm sure someone else will step up to the role he held in Scn

Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 26, 2013, 10:09:21 PM
                                               GATII Behind the Scenes Pics

Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 28, 2013, 07:06:03 AM
                        From Scientology to FLDS, expert claims governments are raiding nontraditional religious groups like never before

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Post by: Ididntcomeback on December 18, 2013, 05:46:56 AM
                              Scientology: NOT the Way to Happiness                                          The Morton Report

A booklet written to fool the world and a "church" that fools very few any more...

Post by: Ididntcomeback on December 28, 2013, 06:04:22 PM
                                                 Community news: Clearwater has no objections to Scientology New Year's tent wrap

Post by: Ididntcomeback on December 29, 2013, 07:45:50 PM
                            New Scientology Mark Uvlta VIII E-Meters defective or have obvious corrosion?

Plenty to see here...

Post by: Ididntcomeback on January 10, 2014, 06:20:26 AM
                             Scientology Under Investigation: New Details Of FBI Probe Into Human Trafficking Allegations Revealed In Court

For years, as former Scientologists aired shocking claims about the church, the FBI was investigating perhaps the most disturbing allegation of all: that the controversial organization was involved in human trafficking. Now, court documents have revealed new details about the investigation, and how Tom Cruise‘s best friend, church leader David Miscavige, was involved...

Post by: Ididntcomeback on January 12, 2014, 07:53:06 AM
                                   The Decline (and Probable Fall) of the Scientology Empire -

Published on 6 Mar 2013
Jim Lippard spoke on the history of the Church of Scientology, how it has collided with the Internet and lost control of its secrets and its membership, and is now seeing an accelerating decline as its top members leave for new alternatives.

Jim Lippard founded the Phoenix Skeptics in 1985, and co-founded the Phoenix Area Skeptics Society in 2011. He's written articles and book chapters on skeptical topics, including two articles in Skeptic magazine on Scientology, "Scientology vs. the Internet" in 1995 (co-authored with Jeff Jacobsen) and "The Decline (and Probable Fall) of the Scientology Empire" in 2012. He also contributed to Gordon Stein's Encyclopedia of the Paranormal and Joe Nickell's Psychic Sleuths.

Video notes starting at 13:50: The Fraser Mansion, though referred to by Scientology as the "founding church" from the 1970s to 2010, wasn't the original building. The original building, at 1812 19th St. NW, is now a museum called the L. Ron Hubbard House (though his house was across the street), which the church acquired in 2004. The Fraser Mansion is now Scientology's National Affairs Office.

The first use of the name "Church of Scientology" was by the Church of Scientology founded in Camden, N.J. in Dec. 1953; the first Church of Scientology corporation was in Los Angeles (Feb. 1954, which became the Church of Scientology of California in 1956), the Church of Scientology of Arizona was incorporated that same year. Hubbard's organization while he lived in Phoenix was the Hubbard Association of Scientologists, International (HASI), founded in Sep. 1952. All HASI assets were folded into the Church of Scientology of California in 1966.

(Views expressed are those of the speaker and do not necessarily represent the views
of the National Capital Area Skeptics.)

Post by: Ididntcomeback on January 20, 2014, 07:03:26 AM
                                           Vicar ties faith falloff to quakes

Lyttelton has topped the list as Christchurch's most secular suburb.

According to 2013 census data, about 60 per cent of the town's 1500 residents are not affiliated with any religion - a jump from about 40 per cent in 2006.

More than half of residents in North Beach, South Brighton, New Brighton, Styx, Ensors and Beckenham put no religion on their census forms also.

Citywide, the number of non-religious people has increased by about 10 per cent since 2006.

In Lyttelton, Holy Trinity Church vicar Neil Struthers said the drop in faith was not surprising given the extent of earthquake damage to the area's churches and its ageing population.

"We have lost all our historic churches. It's all in a flux at the moment," he said. The church had a congregation of about 30 parishioners, compared with about 50 in 2006.

Struthers said many of the young people who had moved into the area did not appear interested in religion. A lot of them were put off by the "bigotry" of the past and the fact that a lot of churches were historically "institutions of division", he said.

"Many of them are actually very interested in spirituality and are quite spiritual people, they're just not interested in the practice of the Christian religion."

Nationwide, Christianity appears to have shed hundreds of thousands of devotees since 2006, while the number of non-religious people has risen strongly.

Four out 10 Kiwis now declare themselves non-religious, putting New Zealand among the most secular countries in the world.

The most religious suburbs in Christchurch, according to 2013 census data, include Holmwood, Belfast South, Deans Bush, Mairehau North, Bryndwr and Hawthornden.

Just over 1 per cent of Christchurch residents are Buddhist (4113 people) or Hindu (3276 people) and just under 1 per cent are Muslim (2634 people).

In New Zealand, religious affiliations are spread across hundreds of different faiths, from Greek Orthodox to Satanism.

Just under 2000 Kiwis subscribe to Rastafari ideals, about 1500 put down Wiccan, 850 follow Satanism and 315 belong to the Church of Scientology.[/color]

2013 Census religion table =  Church of Scientology      315

Post by: Ididntcomeback on January 22, 2014, 04:14:57 PM
                                                                          ESMB is offline again.

Sorry for the lack of notice. Please check here periodically for updates.

January 20, 2014

Here's a brief synopsis what's going on. Last Saturday (the 11th), spammers found and used a "send to friend" link on the site to send their trash to a mailing list they had (not to forum members, unless by coincidence they happened to be on the spammer's list already). The fact that it was a "send to friend" link meant they were able to put in whatever email addresses they wanted to send to. It also allowed them to enter their own message, which, of course, was spam.

I made some changes while the forum was still running and thought I had stopped it. I was watching a live display of the mail server log as entries were made in it, and only saw non-spam emails going out. At this point, I still didn't know for sure how or what they were using to send and I was gathering information to figure it out.

But a while later, the screen started scrolling by quickly and I could see that the spam emails had started up again, so I quickly did what our hosting provider recommended, which was to suspend the forum's account.

On Thursday (the 16th), I had figured it out and made the necessary changes, so I reopened the forum, but was still watching the mail server log. Just after I reopened the forum, I saw a burst of activity in the log and quickly turned the forum back off. I checked and all the emails that had been sent when the forum reopened were forum notifications being sent to email addresses of members, so I turned the forum back on.

We stayed open for 3 days before the spammers found another way to send email using the forum software, on Sunday evening (the 19th).

This time, they used a script which is supposed to (according to vBulletin) be "hard coded" - that is, only send to an email address that is entered as part of the vBulletin configuration. However, apparently they found a way to enter their own set of email addresses when using the script. The email address that I entered into the configuration is still there and unchanged, and yet I have a bounced email undeniably sent by this script with someone else's email address in the To: field.

At this point (January 20), I am still figuring out and deciding what to do. We cannot have the server sending out spam. I'm sorry ESMB is down again. :(

I will update this when I have more news.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on January 23, 2014, 08:37:23 PM
ESMB is back. Again.
Welcome back!

                                                      ESMB is up again, but without email for now.

This means there will be no notifications sent out about PMs you've received, threads being replied to, and, probably more critical, no ability to reset passwords through email automatically. You cannot contact us through the "Contact Us" form, because it's not there.

If there is even a slight possibility of you forgetting your password, please make absolutely certain that you have a valid email address in your profile since we will only be able to reset it manually and we must be certain we are sending it to you and not someone else.

If you are still getting the "suspended" page, when you try to go to the main forum page, you need to clear your browser cache. This may help if you don't know how: How to Clear Your Browser's Cache

Here's what was posted to the "suspended" page, in case you missed it:  POSTED ABOVE.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on January 25, 2014, 02:59:25 PM
                                                          Scientology Mark Ultra VIII E-meter contract leaked

Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 12, 2014, 05:45:14 PM
                                             UK.  :  Journalist wants to talk to former Scientologists

Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 15, 2014, 07:14:31 PM
                                        City Council race tackles taxes, Scientology     Clearwater Florida

...As for Scientology, the church is one of the city's biggest taxpayers and has been a part of the city for four decades, said Allbritton.

"I think with somebody that big, that has so much influence in the downtown area, that we ought to be working with them," he said.

Jonson said the city has been reaching out to the church in recent months and should continue to do so.

McCree said he thought it was sad that some residents had such intense dislike for the church.

"They're not monsters," he said.

Rosa said he'd recently visited a church-sponsored clinic for children and thought it didn't get the recognition it deserved for good work in the community. He said the city should seek "common ground" with the church.

The church needs to be treated by the city as a business, Hamilton said.

"The church owns property. The city owns property. They are business people to be respected and dealt with when necessary," said Hamilton, who added that he's a Methodist.

The 90-minute forum held at City Hall and moderated by Bay News 9 anchor Al Reuchel gave the candidates another opportunity to define themselves with opening and closing statements....

Post by: BLiP on February 17, 2014, 11:24:07 PM

2013 Census religion table =  Church of Scientology      315


Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 19, 2014, 06:54:18 AM
                              Scientology - Texas Baptist Church Lecture With Q & A - February 2014

The Sugar Land Baptist Church ("SLBC") uploaded a video which depicts a recent lecture entitled,
"Scientology: What Do Scientologists Believe About Jesus?"

It's just over an hour long and has, at present, 62 views on YouTube.
(Their YouTube channel is 'Sugar Land Baptist Church' and features other uploaded lectures about Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses, and more.)

Sugar Land, Texas is a city within the SW section of Houston -- just about 165 miles from New Braunfels, Texas.

Here's the video:

I haven't watched the entire video yet, but intend to finish at some point today. The last few minutes of the video feature Q & A.

More than a few questions popped into my head about this development and I've no answers/opinions to offer.
Still, I wonder what it means that a Baptist pastor has taken the step to educate his parishioners about scientology.
Is this a good thing?
Can this pastor expect 'squirrel busters' at his door next Sunday?
Will Co$ - or RTC - take the position that no other group has the "right" to discuss scientology?
Should the other major religions follow SLBC's lead and offer similar lectures/seminars in their own houses of worship?
Will "sabboth sunshine" be a more effective disinfectant than regular sunshine because it reaches more people?
Will Co$ - or RTC - or celeb-scios - label this pastor a "bigot" for his lecture?
Why this lecture now? Media exposure of Co$ abusive policies/practices or something else?
Should the major religions be faulted at all for not educating their followers sooner?

This video raises many, many questions. There's a lot to consider, but my initial impression is that this is a positive first step.


Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 23, 2014, 03:01:36 PM
                                                       Can you make a religion out of thin air?

21 February 2014,

Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 26, 2014, 06:46:51 AM
                                        The following material must be RETURNED and RE-PURCHASED underScientology GAT II

Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 07, 2014, 01:45:58 PM
                                  Gaming videos: Epsilonism.. created to parody Scientology..

Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 14, 2014, 06:03:33 PM
                                            1955 Spaceway Magazine Interviews Hubbard about Dianetics

Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 15, 2014, 09:49:24 PM
                            Ruth Minshull in the Encyclopedia of American Loons
Some old-time Exes may recall Ruth Minshul and her book How To Choose Your People based on the Scientology Tone Scale. The book used to be offered for sale in Scientology book stores until the order came down that only LRH books were to be offered for sale (meaning, yes, even Mary Sue Hubbard's book Marriage Hats was withdrawn from sale).

In any event, Ruth has an entry in the Encyclopedia of American Loons:

Ruth Minshull apparently started off as a writer of scientology books, though her books seem to have been taken off the scientology approved literature list sometime in the 1980s. Some say it was because the books represented dissenting opinions. The fact that Minshull is currently promoted primarily by suggests that her rants might have been a little too batshit even for scientology – and because she “realized” that Ron Hubbard “used to work in the CIA mind control department,” though that realization seems to have come to her only after she had been kicked out. You can read her 1972 book How To Choose Your People here, which expanded upon Hubbard’s views on sexuality and is essentially an anti-gay screed.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 17, 2014, 07:12:51 AM
                                                     Facebook is accepting more sneaky Scientology ads.
Tell them that you are mad as hell . . . .

Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 18, 2014, 09:45:50 PM
                                                 Former Scientologist and TV pitchman Kevin Trudeau sentenced to 10 years in prison

                                       ‘Deceitful to the very core’: TV pitchman Kevin Trudeau sentenced to 10 years in prison

CHICAGO (Reuters) – U.S. TV pitchman Kevin Trudeau, who was convicted last year of criminal contempt for exaggerating the contents of his weight-loss book in infomercials, was sentenced on Monday to 10 years in prison.

Trudeau, 51, who has been held in federal custody since his conviction in November, will also have five years of supervised release after serving his sentence, U.S. District Court Judge Ronald Guzman said.

“He is deceitful to the very core, and that type of conduct simply cannot stand,” Guzman said, noting that Trudeau had been cited repeatedly for violating court orders over several years.

Trudeau was found guilty last November of violating a 2004 federal court settlement with the Federal Trade Commission that barred him from misrepresenting the contents of his books in advertisements.

A jury found he violated the agreement while marketing his book, “The Weight Loss Cure ‘They’ Don’t Want You To Know About,” in infomercials made in 2006 and 2007 that aired about 32,000 times.

Trudeau told viewers in the infomercials that the “cure” to obesity was not a diet and did not require exercise, but the book instructed readers to walk an hour each day and to limit intake to 500 calories.

Prosecutors, who said Trudeau’s actions resulted in over $37 million in losses to consumers, had sought at least a 10-year sentence, saying in court papers he was motivated by simple greed and had bilked consumers and defied court orders.

Defense attorneys for Trudeau had asked Guzman to sentence him to no more than 21 months in prison, based on the criminal contempt conviction alone and not for fraud, for which they said he had not been charged.

Trudeau’s attorney, Thomas Kirsch, argued the government could not punish him for the content of the book and the amount of the fraud to the individual was small because they didn’t wipe out anyone’s life savings, attorney Thomas Kirsch said on Monday.

Dressed in an orange jump suit, Trudeau said prison life had caused him to reform and apologized to his family, prosecutors and the people who had bought his books in a lengthy statement before Guzman leveled his sentence.

“I have absolutely learned a life-changing lesson from all of this,” Trudeau said.

The courtroom was packed with Trudeau supporters. One, Ed Foreman, 80, a motivational speaker from Dallas who had been a congressman for Texas and New Mexico, tried twice to make a statement in Trudeau’s support during the hearing.

When Foreman failed to respond to the judge’s order to be quiet, he was lifted up by his arms and legs and carried out of the courtroom by federal marshals.

Foreman was cited for creating a disturbance, which will cost him $175, according to U.S. Attorney’s Office spokesman Randall Samborn.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 20, 2014, 12:57:46 AM
                                          Scientology Attorney trying to Suppress South African Back in Comm Blog! LOL!-LOL

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 01, 2014, 09:50:54 PM
                                      New Tax Documents Expose Finances Behind The Church Of Scientology

Read more:

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 02, 2014, 05:50:53 AM
                                       Scientology Launches A Multibillion-Dollar Accelerator Program

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 03, 2014, 09:40:58 AM
                                  The Man Helping Bill Ackman Investigate Herbalife In China

...............But Smith-Levin has no experience working for government spy or law enforcement agencies. Born in Montana, Smith-Levin is 33 and grew up in the Philadelphia area. He never went to college and eventually made his way down to Clearwater, where he worked at a consulting company and then a marketing company called Postcard Mania. Both businesses are associated with members of the Church of Scientology and Smith-Levin’s business title at both companies was executive establishment officer, a designation used by the Church of Scientology. It was through his connection to the Church of Scientology that Smith-Levin met Kurt Feshbach and learned about the hedge fund investigations game.

In 2009, Smith-Levin started working at Feshbach’s Clearwater-based business called Falcon Research. Feschbach was once one of the biggest short sellers on Wall Street. Together with his brothers, Joseph and Matthew, Kurt Feshbach ran a $1 billion hedge fund called Feshbach Partners in the 1980s and early 1990s out of Palo Alto, Calif., that prominently bet against the stocks of companies. In 1990, The New York Times called the Feshbach brothers “the country’s largest short seller.” The hedge fund eventually petered out and now Feshbach performs on-the-ground investigations of companies for other hedge funds. Feshbach, who declined to comment for this article, has long been a prominent member of the Church of Scientology. Smith-Levin said he was no longer involved with the Church of Scientology and declined to discuss it. But he was willing to talk about his work at OTG Research......

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 04, 2014, 08:17:52 AM
                                  What is Wrong with Scientology, Part I

Published on 1 Apr 2014
Destruction is in its DNA

In this first of a multi-part series, I discuss the overall problem with Scientology and how its operating policies cannot help but bring about its eventual destruction as an organized religion.

See my blog for more details of my history in Scientology and my written articles describing specific problems with the Church and how I got out of it.

Documented instances of Miscavige lying:
http://amradaronline.files.wordpress.... (part 1) (part 2)

Membership figures made up:

ARIS 2001 survey results:

ARIS 2008 survey results:

J. Gordon Melton attribution:

Other Church membership estimates:

Examples of Church policy letters can be found here:

L. Ron Hubbard is single source of Scientology policies:


Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 16, 2014, 09:12:23 AM
                                            Scientology Santa Barbara closes it's doors...                   15 April 2014

Posted by smurf.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 21, 2014, 08:15:27 AM
                                      Pretoria Ideal Org not paying municipal fees! 1,160,674 rands DUE!

WAT? Scientology Pretoria Ideal Org is not so ideal - They owe 1,160,674 rands / $110,000 dollars in municipal fees! Someone send Pretoria Government Scientology's tax returns showing they are sitting on BILLIONS of dollars and need to pay their bills....

The documents...!-1-160-674-rands-DUE!

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 26, 2014, 05:39:27 PM
                                              Put to the Test                       UNIVERSITY TIMES   IRELAND

Jane Fallon Griffin takes the free Scientology personality test and interviews some ex-members of the organisation

Jane Fallon Griffin | Senior Staff Writer

Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 09, 2014, 07:25:34 PM
                               Scientologists offer parking options for Clearwater aquarium

CLEARWATER---The Church of Scientology recently suggested to the city that property near the Bank of America building downtown could be a good location for a parking garage.

The city and Clearwater Marine Aquarium beg to differ.....

Post by: Ididntcomeback on July 03, 2014, 09:02:38 AM
                                Earlier this year Scientologist Eric Roux gave a talk on his movement at a academic conference. How well do his claims stand up to scrutiny? Jon Atack marks his copy.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on July 05, 2014, 07:37:58 AM
                                                            Scientologist is displeased with Dan

Your daily Letter to the Columnist -- July 3, 2014

Post by: Ididntcomeback on July 18, 2014, 09:25:06 AM
   The French edition of Vanity Fair has just come out. 

See it here...

English version

Post by: Ididntcomeback on July 20, 2014, 06:42:35 PM
                          Local researcher seeks funds to help find submarine sunk off the coast of Oregon

.....On May 19, 1943 the Astoria-based subchaser crew got a call from USS PC-815. The ship had made contact with at least one enemy submarine. USS PC-815 was a newly commissioned ship, built in Portland, which was under the command of L. Ron Hubbard—the same L. Ron Hubbard who later founded the Church of Scientology.....

Post by: Ididntcomeback on July 26, 2014, 07:55:44 AM
                                        Cult Rush Week: The Church of Scientology Thinks I'm Terrible


Post by: Ididntcomeback on July 29, 2014, 08:50:15 AM
                                                      Scientology - The War is Over! - Full event video

 Published on 27 Jul 2014                    

Feast your eyes on almost three hours of the Church of Scientology's most infamous and historic event: The end of their 30 year war with the Internal Revenue Service (IRS). This grainy video is so secret and rare that the Church of Scientology fights to keep it off the Internet. You are advised to download this large video file to your computer immediately and then watch it locally.

There is much interest in this historic video but the Church may try to have it deleted because they are seen gloating about their victory against the US taxation authorities. Google makes a lot of money off of the Church and usually does its evil bidding in such matters.

Recorded in "maximum smarm," the ceremony pulls out all the stops and goes for maximum wins. A gigantic set showcasing two musical numbers, a laser show, onstage pyrotechnics plus great leader David Miscavige recounting the details of their IRS conflict. Late in the video are appearances by multiple bigwig cultists like Ray Mithoff, Marc Yager and Guillaume Lesevre. Those three men have since been imprisoned by the Great Leader and are no longer seen in public. Other now imprisoned members, like Heber Jentszch, can be seen in the multiple crowd shots.

And then the attendees are told that the Internal Revenue Service, which is the arbiter of what is a religion in this country, has given them a massive tax exemption, The reaction is ecstatic. and extended.

Scientology and the IRS intertwine like the Yin Yang. The IRS conducts auditing on individuals, an interrogation designed to extract money. The Church of Scientology conducts Auditing on individuals, an interrogation designed to extract money. Can you see the difference?

The quality of the video and audio is poor because this was the only copy I could find. I have enhanced the technical quality as best I could and resynced the audio, which was broken. Although I have added explanatory text at the beginning and the end 99% of the video is unretouched. ...

While you are downloading the video check out these weblinks for more information ....




Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 05, 2014, 07:24:25 AM
                                        John Oliver: News sites are so desperate, their tricks are reaching Scientology-level bullsh*t
By Tom Boggioni
Monday, August 4, 2014

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 07, 2014, 01:40:19 PM
                                     Searchers 'closer than ever' to WWII sub off Oregon coast chased by L. Ron Hubbard

A team of divers attempting to locate what they believe is a submarine that sank during a WWII battle off the Oregon coast was stopped short this week. Rough seas prevented divers from reaching the site on Sunday and Monday, but not before they saw more clues convincing them the structure caught on sonar is the submarine they seek.

"We are closer than ever," said Kathleen Wallis, leader of the Oregon Coast Project. "We have coordinates from last year. We ran those same numbers this time and the captain of our new boat, a big catamaran, immediately came up with the structure on the fish finder sonar. It's sitting in the sand upright. We don't know what it is for sure, but we think we know."

The story began on the night of May 19, 1943, when a U.S. patrol boat put out a call to sub chaser SC-536 that it had made contact with an enemy submarine but was out of depth charges. The patrol boat was under command of L. Ron Hubbard, founder of the Church of Scientology.

Acting under the guidance of two Navy blimps, the SC-536 motored out from Astoria to join the chase. On board was Robert Wood, now 95 and living in Tennessee. At sea, somewhere between Cape Meares and Cape Lookout, the crew dropped 12 depth charges at 200 and 300 feet, and received a message from a blimp above that at least one charge had made a direct hit and the sub had sunk.

"We felt mighty honored that we had done that because that was our job, try to find Japanese subs and sink them," Wood said in an earlier interview with The Oregonian. "We were a happy bunch of sailors."

But for reasons no one can explain, the Navy later denied the event had ever happened. Still, the story lived on, told by Wood and others on the sub chaser who saw the oil slick and blood in the water and by locals who reported finding material from the wreck that washed ashore. Fishermen have long reported gear getting snagged on some unknown object in the same area.

Wallis learned of the sub story in New Mexico, where she is a school teacher. A reporter told her the tale and Wallis quickly decided it was one that needed to be shared and proven, if possible.

"It's an important story," Wallis said. So she began raising funds, rallying divers and finding boats. She's since come to the Oregon coast 18 times by her count. In recent trips, Wallis and the team came up with the hard evidence that suggests they are truly onto something.

They know now, thanks to hydrographic software, that the structure measures 190 to 200 feet in length, 15 feet wide and stands 15 to 18 feet from the ocean floor. They also have an image of the structure taken by side scan sonar.

On this week's dive, divers saw two octopus and a large school of fish near the vicinity of the vessel. "When we see that many fish, we know they are on their way to somewhere, a reef, rocks ... but usually you don't see that many unless there is a structure. Fish like to be in the shallows where they can hide," Wallis said. Octopus also generally live in the rocks, the reef or a structure, Wallis said.

But divers this past week failed to reach the structure after strong currents dragged their boat anchor away from the site.

"What turns out to be the most problematic for us is our anchor," she said. "We decided not to hook the wreck, but instead to use the hook as an anchor at the location of the wreck so that the divers had a descent line. The divers could follow the line down where we anchored. The surface current was so incredibly strong, it pulled the floats away from the coordinates and drug our anchor with it."

Those same conditions also served as a reminder of how dangerous their mission can be.

 "One of the two divers ended up (with the bends)," Wallis said. "They did very generous decompression stops on the way up. He's never had bends before. He ended up going into treatment. It effected his shoulder joints. We had to help him onto the boat. It's very dangerous and it's very challenging. It's in a place that is diveable, but we have ripping current in every direction. The depth is not easy, and visibility is not easy."

But they're not giving up. Two divers plan to continue diving and will also work to modify the anchor. If they do find the sub from that May 1943 battle, Wallis' work will have just begun.

"If this is a foreign vessel, there is going to be a country of origin and family members involved," she said. "If it is a war wreck, and we know it could be something else, there is going to be the possibility of men on board who have families who never knew what happened. If we have what we think we have, part of the goal would be to offer some closure to the families of the men who were lost."   

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 09, 2014, 03:17:51 AM
                    Could This Man Bring Down Scientology? L. Ron Hubbard’s Great-Grandson Planning Explosive Anti-Scientology Exposé

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 19, 2014, 05:08:12 PM
                                      Courting the World        

Tel Aviv II
By: Isaac Eger
Falafel, Scientology and American-Israeli relations make up this portion of Isaac's stay in Tel Aviv.

August 18, 2014

......A security guard checked my bag and I was approached by a young man who looked like a Jehovah’s Witness. He wore a white button-down and tie, black pants, and his hair was parted to the left. He said something in Hebrew.

I’m sorry. Do you speak English? I asked.

“Yes, can I help you?”

Um, maybe.

I pretended not to know that Scientology was a very weird organization. I told them that I was mostly sad and looking for the answers to life’s problems. He smiled with satisfaction and assurance and called over Deena. She was in her 40s, had smoker’s skin and wore plain civilian clothes

“Would you like to learn more about Scientology?” she asked.

Yes, please!

There were stations located throughout the building. Each station had an upholstered bench and a large, flat-screen television. Deena navigated me through each station. I sat, watched and tried to keep a straight, interested face out of politeness and paranoia that I was being monitored.

The videos were like high-quality, late-night infomercials. The actors were melodramatic and vaguely attractive. They were obviously filmed in the early 2000s because everybody was using flip phones. For the next two hours I was ushered from station to station and asked if I had any more questions. I wanted to ask when I would get my thetan levels read and they would tell me about aliens, but I just asked normal, boring questions. Each question was met with a different station.

How did you guys pay for this building?

“L. Ron Hubbard wrote many things about having a good business. The government of Belgium uses L. Ron Hubbard’s economic theories. Did you know that? Here, watch this video.”

So, my mind and my body are separate things, you say? Why, then, would past memories affect me physically?

“Ah, great question. On the bottom floor is our health center. You stay for two weeks and we remove all the toxins in your body and purify you. Here, watch this video.”

This video showed young people in a post-modern utopia, all wearing bright blue shorts and white spandex shirts, following a program consisting of a healthy diet, moderate exercise, sauna sessions and a large amount of niacin supplements, which, according to the video, helps break up the past toxins from the fatty tissue. This might cause a skin reaction as the toxins leave your body. The video showed people breaking out in hives and itching their skin. But don’t worry. That just means that it is working.

Finally, I asked the more important question: Can you be Jewish and a Scientologist?

“Of course, I don’t see a problem with that.”

I left the building, wondered if they’d put any GPS devices in my bag and walked toward the Mediterranean Sea......

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 22, 2014, 03:37:55 PM
                                  Scientology Making TV Commercials to Lure In New Recruits

The so called Church of Scientology doesn’t give up. They want new recruits despite all the bad press they’ve received here and abroad. Now they’re going to make some commercials for TV and the internet to lure in new recruits.

What’s weird is that considering all the actors they’ve brought in through the Celebrity Center in Hollywood, Scientology is going outside their own people to find actors.  I guess Tom Cruise and John Travolta are too expensive. They are using regular Scientology casting directors however, Valerie Light and Marie Bystrom.

The commercials are non union, of course, no SAG or AFTRA. They’re looking for a guy and a girl each in their 20s who will seem “hipsterish.” The girl is Beautiful, ”Ascendance-type girl”, ”Anthropologie-model look” walking down the streets of New York and going on the subway… Wardrobe: casual…”

The guy is “20 – 25: Hipster/grunge guy living his life in style he is creating – we see him walking down thestreets of New York and spending time in a library…”

I’m told the casting call says that the actors will get $300 a day and “no residuals.”

                                            Church of Scientology told it must resubmit plans if it is to open a new base in Gateshead

Council chiefs are pressing a controversial religion to take action over an abandoned building after permission to create a new church expired.

The Church of Scientology received planning permission to transform the former Windmill Hills School, in Bensham, Gateshead, into a place of religious worship in 2007 by Gateshead Council.

The movement originally planned to transform the Grade II listed building, a former school, into a church which was due to open in 2009 but the building remains unchanged.

Now Gateshead Council has revealed the North East’s second Church of Scientology would have to go back to the authority’s planning committee should they wish to press ahead with the plans.

Anneliese Hutchinson, head of development and public protections at Gateshead Council, said: “This building, which is Grade II Listed, has been the cause of considerable concern to us for some time.

“We have repeatedly pressed the owners’ to firstly make repairs and secondly to clarify the long-term future of the site.

“The building has been subject to damage including a fire when significant damage was sustained. As a result of our requests repairs have been undertaken recently but we are clear that further works are required in the short-term to improve the condition of the building.

“We are currently exploring the options available to the council to progress this.”

The building was bought by Richard Pickles, who is described as a Church of Scientology ‘parishioner’, for £1.5m in 2007.

Graeme Wilson, spokesman for the Church of Scientology in the UK, said the Church of Scientology still have plans for the building.

He said: “Local Church parishioners purchased this building with the intention of renovating it into a new home for the Sunderland Scientology Church.

“When it was bought, it was empty and its condition was deteriorating.

“While the planning and fundraising for its complete restoration move forward, the Church has had and is having contractors repair the building’s broken windows and roof and are cleaning the place up.

“The Church’s record of property renovation and restoration internationally is stellar.

“Some of those buildings have been in depressed condition and have required extensive work to restore them.

“We take great care with these projects and the results enhance the local communities these churches serve.

“In the past several years, the church has opened 40 new churches in cultural centres and major metropolitan areas on five continents.”

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 23, 2014, 07:34:29 AM
                                                    Criminon, IAS and fallen heroes

On Tuesday (19th Aug) Mike Rinder published an excellent article on his blog about Greg Capazorio and the issue of IAS Freedom medal winners. For those who don’t know Greg, he is a born & bred South African “boytjie” (his own term for himself). He reached fame through his Criminon activities in South Africa and as a result is now holding the post of ED Criminon Int.

We have some data on the story of Greg and his rise to fame  as well as a few other tidbits about Criminon South Africa that are probably not widely known. We felt it opportune to give our readers this data as a follow-up and extension to Mike’s article which can be seen here

Greg Capazorio first appeared on the SCN scene during the 80’s – he and Freddy Pendl had quite the reputation for being the “suave” boys on the block when the two of them arrived at Joburg org to help out with running Anatomy of the Human Mind lectures.   They were also partners in a carpet cleaning business which later was taken over solely by Freddy after the two had a falling out.....

Post by: Ididntcomeback on August 26, 2014, 07:14:02 AM
                                       Flint, Michigan Officials May Spread Scientology to Save the City

Post by: Ididntcomeback on September 12, 2014, 07:08:46 PM
                                   Karen De La Carriere: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

                               Former Scientologist President's Wife Speaks Out: 'I'm Speaking Against the Abuses'

Post by: Ididntcomeback on September 24, 2014, 07:58:44 AM
                                            Top 20 books they tried to ban

As Banned Books Week starts in America, we look at 20 books that were famously banned

Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 05, 2014, 08:04:21 AM
                                            We got an interesting phone call last week…

Written by Ann on October 3, 2014 ·

Have a listen here....    Scientology Bureau 1  Investigate and intimidate dept. at work.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 09, 2014, 11:38:13 PM
                       Cameron's Connections to Scientology and Powerful Men Once Drew Headlines, But Now Her Art Is Getting Its Due

By Tanja M. Laden
Wed, Oct 8, 2014

Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 19, 2014, 07:24:11 AM
        A few photos of the set up for the IAS event at St Hill 2014

Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 21, 2014, 07:49:08 AM
                                 Kiwi  longtime scio  unrecognizable...

DAVE BLOOMBURG.  Seen here fliming Marty Rathbun while Jenny De Vocht and Mark Yager Hassle him at Airport. Monday 20th Oct 2014.

More info on Tony Ortega`s blog.

                                          WATCH: Scientologists Harass Ex-Member at LAX Airport

Published 4:59 pm EDT, October 20, 2014

Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 27, 2014, 06:34:44 AM
                                                 Ebner found Giovanni Ribisi's mom Patron award in dumpster


Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 27, 2014, 04:09:41 PM
                               Mark Hayes: Playing mind games in LA with Scientologists

Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 30, 2014, 02:49:17 AM
                              Ridley Scott to produce miniseries on rocket scientist, occultist Jack Parsons

Post by: Ididntcomeback on October 31, 2014, 10:50:03 PM
                                                                     Dianetics / Scientology

                                                               Article from the Skeptics Dictionary

                                                                  Scientology Founder: What A Nut!

                                                               Article from the Smoking Gun.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 01, 2014, 08:18:33 PM
                                        Noise complaints made about gala at Scientology HQ Saint Hill Manor

Read more:
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Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 02, 2014, 08:31:50 AM
                       The Church of Scientology buys land in West Chatswood for $37 million to build new Australasian headquarters

Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 03, 2014, 03:17:52 PM
                                 Scientology suspicious death stonewalled by Clearwater Police

Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 05, 2014, 10:22:38 PM
                              Church of Scientology's L.A. Headquarters Serving as Midterm Polling Station

Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 14, 2014, 07:05:57 AM
                                         42 Reasons Why Scientology is LITERALLY The Absolute Truth

Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 15, 2014, 09:25:28 PM
                             Scientology Platinum Meritorious award given to Richie and Amy Acunto on Ebay

                                   Tampa Brewery sells Xenu Honey Cream Ale..

Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 17, 2014, 07:26:31 AM
                                  From Metro Magazine ... One year ago.
Auckland org

                                        Scientology: inside the Auckland HQ

Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 19, 2014, 07:09:07 AM
                                                               Perry Chapdelaine Webcast

Webcast interview with LRH's personal auditor, Perry Chapdelaine..

Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 21, 2014, 07:33:48 PM
                                           Scientology: The Story You Haven't Heard

3 paged article plus comments.

 media_lush • 7 hours ago

Marc Headley has just posted AN AWESOME zinger over there:

I grew up in Scientology and spent 15 years working at their international headquarters before I escaped from there with the help of local police.

I can tell you without a doubt that Scientology is a criminal organization that is dishonest with their employees, their members and most of all the general public. They will lie and encourage their members to lie in the case of the "greater good". As long as scientology is taking money from someone somewhere, no matter how nefarious the means this money is obtained by, the moral compass of scientology points North.

Imagine if you will that all members of Scientology were investors with Bernie Madoff. If Bernie Madoff told folks that when they gave him money they were not allowed to read about him on the internet, they were not allowed to associate themselves with anyone who had accused Bernie of ripping them off, If they did do anything to investigate or find out the truth about Madoff, they would lose all their money invested and never be able to talk to any other family members that were also investors.

Now if you had been ripped off by Madoff and you KNEW that he was ripping more people off, you would try and warn anyone you knew that was telling others that Madoff was awesome. Well what would you expect Madoff to do? He is making millions and millions ripping people off and he will spend millions and millions to make it all look legit, to silence those who speak out, to get puff pieces done to show how awesome he is so that he can dupe others into giving him their money.

This really is the case with Scientolgists, they are indoctrinated to distrust anyone not in scientology and to defend scientology at all costs or risk their future spiritual survival and all mankind's future existence. This "future existence" is also directly tied to their bank account balance.

Scientology is the Bernie Madoff of criminal cult businesses masquerading as a religion.

Also, before Bernie Madoff broke the record for the biggest ponzi scheme in history, it was held by Reed Slatkin. Reed Slatkin was a popular Scientolgist that stole 593 million dollars from his investor clients. You want to know how ethical Scientologists are? A large amount of Reed's clients were fellow Scientolgists! He not only stole from these people that he called friends, he donated a large portion of his booty to the scientology organization in order to continue to steal from them undetected. The scientology organization knew about his ponzi scheme and encouraged some members to get their money back before Slatkin was busted by the Feds.

Speaking of records, do you know which organization perpetrated the largest criminal infiltration into the US government and its offices in history? None other than Scientology.

Let that sink in, Scientology criminally infiltrated the US government so that the government would not have any of the criminal information that had been gathered up on Scientology.

There is one good thing about Scientolgists - they eventually become Ex-scientolgists and are able to get on with their lives. There are more ex-scientolgists than scientolgists.

I realize this is a fashion blog and people may or may not take this article very serious.

Since escaping the International scientology headquarters that I worked at for 100 hours per week, for 15 years at $45/week, I have not been able to speak to my mother, sister or brother that are still involved with scientology. That was almost 10 years ago. My mother is not really the grandmother of my three young boys - they do not even know she exists. My sister or brother have never seen their three nephews. My boys do not even know I have a sister or a brother. To me, Scientology is very serious.

If telling what I know helps one person escape scientology's clutches or prevents another person from getting involved, my horrible experience and most of the time wasted there will have been worth it.

That is why I cannot just sit back and allow puff pieces like this give the impression that scientology is anything but a criminal organization that preys upon those who have good intentions and usually thicker wallets.

Marc Headley

(Marc - feel free to post it again here and I'll edit mine to remove your comment so you get the upvotes if you want them)

Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 22, 2014, 04:18:25 PM
                                           Refinery29 Embroiled in Weird Scientology Controversy

                                              Reporter Hangs Out in New York with ‘Jewish Scientologist’

Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 25, 2014, 07:17:32 AM
                                                    RAW: Cultist's LA lunch interrupted by Angry Gay Pope

                                                     video footage

Post by: Ididntcomeback on November 25, 2014, 06:37:50 PM
                                 Foreigners essential for Scientology in Denmark

Expert contends that membership numbers are dwindling

Post by: Ididntcomeback on December 14, 2014, 06:10:27 AM
                                            Bill Schroer: Religious freedom will pave road to hell

The latest legislative present under the Christmas tree would be funny except for its very scary implications.

The Religious Freedom Restoration Act (HB5958) would essentially allow anyone to violate civil law if it interfered with their "sincerely held" religious beliefs.

I don't know how far down the road I have to go to demonstrate this is a really bad idea. I'm all for "religious freedom," which we have had since the Declaration of Independence.

However, we also have the "rule of law" which sometimes trumps religious beliefs.

The Mormon commanded practice of multiple wives, for example, was only outlawed by the Church once it became clear civil authorities here weren't going to stand for it.

They modified their "belief" to reflect the reality of civil law and cultural mores of this country.

If this bill were to become law and the Mormons reversed their decision on multiple wives, polygamy would become a de facto legal practice here.

If, as in some Eastern religions, it is permitted to beat your wife, you now become immune to prosecution for domestic violence.

If your religion claims you don't believe in vaccinations, you may withhold a lifesaving antibiotic from your child.

A key part of the problem here is the largely white, male, Republican conservatives who came up with this idea are mostly, if not entirely, Christians and are applying their logic to Christian beliefs ... some of which we in America agree with.

Unfortunately for them, this bill would apply to all religions.

So, Satanism, Voodoo, Wicca, Rastafarian, Islam, and lots of fringe (but legally qualified) religions (Scientology) may now allow you to use your "sincerely held beliefs" as permission to pursue some action that would otherwise be prohibited by civil law....

Post by: Ididntcomeback on December 15, 2014, 06:03:41 AM
                                     Feds fund Scientology-backed detox program for vets in Annapolis

By Rema Rahman,

December 14, 2014

A detoxification program in Annapolis supported by the Church of Scientology is treating veterans suffering from chronic Gulf War-related conditions.

Treatments are funded by the U.S. Department of Defense through a $633,677 grant issued in September 2010, according to Pentagon officials. The Annapolis office opened in January, Clinical Trial Coordinator Crystal Grant said.

Seven Gulf War veterans have completed the program and at least four plan to begin the regimen next year. One is currently undergoing detoxification, a treatment designed to rid the body of environmental toxins through exercise, sauna therapy and doses of vitamins.

The federal money was awarded to researchers at the University of Albany in New York state, with David O. Carpenter, the director of the school's Institute for Health and the Environment, as the chief applicant and investigator.

Carpenter said the program is a "preliminary study" intended to find out if there is a scientific basis for the therapy developed by Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard for the church's detoxification program.

He said the study is the first of its kind to be done by "independent people ... in a fashion that's rigorous and objective."

Grant and Carpenter are both physicians who work for the university.

The Gulf War Illness Veterans Research Program operates out of the Annapolis office of the Severna Park Health and Wellness Center, in the basement of a building in the Conte office complex off Defense Highway in Parole.

In addition to the federal funding, the program also gets help from the Heroes Health Fund, a nonprofit organization chaired by actor and Scientologist John Travolta. The group has funded similar programs for public safety officials around the country, including one involving Anne Arundel County firefighters.

The Annapolis program is specifically for Gulf War veterans said to be suffering from Gulf War illness, a condition recognized by the Defense Department and the Department of Veterans Affairs.

The VA defines the illness as "a cluster of medically unexplained chronic conditions that can include fatigue, headaches, joint pain, indigestion, insomnia, dizziness, respiratory disorders and memory problems."

Veterans and public safety workers interviewed by The Capital who completed the program said they suffered from fatigue, headaches, joint pain and sleep disorders that improved significantly after detoxification.

They said the program did not encourage them to take an interest in Scientology as a religion. Many said they were unaware of the program's origins when they learned the treatment was available.

Kirk Moyer, an Annapolis resident and Gulf War veteran who completed the program in September, said he discovered the office in late spring when, while working as a mailman, he delivered a package there.

Moyer said he suffered from anxiety and joint pain and had trouble sleeping — and that this improved once he completed the regimen. He said he still takes vitamins daily as part of the program and will go for a follow-up physical later this month.

"This whole program gave me my life back," Moyer said. "I didn't realize how bad I felt until I felt good again."

Moyer, 49, was in the Navy from 1990 to 1997 and said he served in Iraq and Bosnia. He said he encourages other veterans to give the program a chance.

Moyer and others who completed sauna detoxification said the program's connection to Scientology did not deter them, even if that was not made apparent to them at the start.

"It had no impact," Moyer said. "Scientology has nothing to do with it."

Carpenter said no one involved in conducting the study is a Scientologist and that this is the first independent study of the religion's detoxification treatment....

- See more at:,0,219202.story#sthash.yFmOoOun.dpuf

Post by: Ididntcomeback on December 19, 2014, 04:22:41 PM
                                              What It’s Like to Spend a Few Hours in the Church of Scientology

By Kevin Collier • December 18, 2014 •

Post by: Ididntcomeback on December 23, 2014, 06:14:00 AM
                                                                           Generating Power
Posted on December 20, 2014 by scnafrica   

As we come to the end of the year the blog admins find themselves in holiday mode and things have slowed down which was partly planned, partly forced due to circumstance.

In any event we wish everyone a happy holiday season and bring you this story which was featured on Mike Rinder’s blog today. We are reposting it here so our local and regular commenting community have the opportunity to discuss it. (And for the sake of clarity the misspelled “Jobur” is deliberate – it comes from a misspelling on a fundraising promo from earlier this year).

We’ll just add that at the time of publishing this article the fundraiser to get the R500k needed for a generator would have just completed and it remains to be seen if they managed to extract this amount out of their public just days before Christmas. Our money is on “no”.

                                                                            Lights Out At Jobur Org

                                            Here is another chapter in the sad tale of the demise of Jobur Ideal Org.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on December 26, 2014, 08:34:35 AM
                                  Scientology is recruiting in Taiwan. 台灣山達基

The following post is quite good and the author really did his homework.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on December 31, 2014, 05:44:31 PM
                                          ‘Scientology makes life a living hell for former members’

By Gaby Ochsenbein

A.B.* has severed ties with Scientology, recently leaving after many years. The former member, who knows the organisation inside out, now wants to help keep people from joining the “totalitarian sect”.

“It’s ingenious how Scientology manipulates people. Even though many of them know something isn’t right, they can’t escape even if they would like to.” But A.B. succeeded. The former member contacted after reading a debate between the top Swiss Scientologist and a critic of sects............

Post by: Ididntcomeback on January 01, 2015, 10:56:23 PM
                                                           Identifying people in old pictures

    Some pictures from an old book on LRH the CoS pushed out of its ass in the 90s were recently posted to Why We Protest.

    The poster was wondering if anyone could identify people in the following pictures. I'm curious as well, since I'm noticing a few familiar faces.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on January 08, 2015, 05:32:36 PM
                    If You Hear A Rumor That The Church Of Scientology Is Running An Ad In The Super Bowl, It's Probably Not True

YouTube/ScientologyIt looks like this ad will run - but only in certain local areas - during the Super Bowl.

Rumors have begun swirling again that The Church of Scientology has booked a big ad during this year's Super Bowl. Just like previous years, we can be fairly certain that it hasn't - at least not one of the big money $4.5 million national ad slots.

As Tony Ortega, a former Village Voice editor who runs a website devoted to investigating Scientology explains, people have begun noticing that the Church has been running TV ads during a number of prominent shows in recent weeks such as The Ellen Degeneres Show, a broadcast of The View and in one of the NFL playoff games this weekend.

It has used this tactic over the past few years in the lead up to the big game. During the Super Bowl itself, people in several cities notice that the Scientology ad has also been broadcast at some point in the proceedings.

Each time, The Church of Scientology hasn't actually forked out the mega bucks required to run a national 30-second ad, but has instead opted for far cheaper local advertising during commercial breaks reserved for regional advertisers and local channel advertisers.

In 2013 it bought up airtime in major spot markets like New York and Los Angeles, thus many people in metro areas believed they had seen an official Super Bowl ad for Scientology (which would imply some sort of endorsement from the NFL or the broadcaster, which last year was FOX.) Ortega quotes an expert that estimates this tactic would only cost in the region of about "$1 million," less than a quarter of the amount it would cost for an official placement this year on NBC.

This appears to be the ad The Church of Scientology is gearing up to show during the Super Bowl this year:

Post by: Ididntcomeback on January 12, 2015, 06:47:07 AM
                                  Hey, Did anyone watch Law and Order last night?

It was ALL about this 'cult' called 'Systemotics' and revolved around some murder cases supposedly within it and 'death by 'Purification' '
(their words!)..then they went on to explain how the Purification is using Steam/Sauna to 'flush toxins out' etc...

Hubby and I's jaw dropped, you KNOW the entire episode was really about $cientology!

And one of the lawyers even looked DM'ish and the Systemotics Leader's name was something like 'Ellman Conway' or something similar...and he had a degree in Engineering he said,etc...

The ending was also creepy...the DM'like lawyer literally intimidated the guy to death, making him 'confess' and go back to being a 'Systemologist' again...

Someone should tape this and put it on Youtube!

And this.....

Post by: Ididntcomeback on January 21, 2015, 05:52:16 AM
                                             Don’t Try to Be a Publisher and a Platform at the Same Time

..........Consider, too, the practice of sponsored content. Would you blame Google for allowing the Church of Scientology to display a sponsored link on top of “scientology” results in Google Search?  Or would you get angry at Facebook if a sponsored post for the Church of Scientology popped up in your feed? Probably not — but in 2013, plenty of people blamed The Atlantic for running an article sponsored by the Church of Scientology, even though it was clearly labeled as such. (Full disclosure: I have written for The Atlantic.).............

Post by: Ididntcomeback on January 30, 2015, 06:09:32 AM
                                         Scientology-Funded Group Preaching Anti-Drug Message in NYC Public Schools

Foundation for a Drug-Free World was previously kicked out of San Francisco School's for promoting "bogus science."
Anthony L. Fisher|Jan. 29, 2015

Post by: Ididntcomeback on January 31, 2015, 08:02:32 AM
                                                   Another dying Scientology Mission - San Francisco..

From ex-Scilon Zac Hopkins' Facebook page:

Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 01, 2015, 06:14:31 AM
                                 Why did TMZ remove David Miscavige's name from the Scientology Going Clear story?

Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 04, 2015, 05:50:29 AM
                                                     Independent Scientology Milestone Two responds to Going Clear

Milestone Two: Prisoners of belief

* * * * * BEGIN QUOTATION * * * * *

Posted by Lana M.
February 1, 2015

by Jim Logan

I read Lawrence Wright’s book. I looked for something that was actually part of the subjects of Dianetics or Scientology in it. I didn’t find anything. I mean, ANY, actual, real Scientology in its pages.

What I did find was a cornucopia of drek. Gossip, rumor, hearsay and not a wit of the ostensible topic, Dianetics or Scientology. A Russell Miller redux, and in light of the facts that Margaret Lake has presented this is really pretty cheesy.

How could that be?

I think I have one answer to that question.

Lawrence Wright is a regular ol’ average human being. He considers he is “Lawrence Wright”, that body, with one life, in that body, living on a lone planet that spontaneously brought about that one life, in that one body, from a sea of ammonia, sometime in the last billion years or so, evolving along until one day, carbon and oxygen and hydrogen and a bunch of chemicals gave rise to his “consciousness” as “Lawrence Wright”. One day that will die and that’s the end. He’s convinced – or at least he’s pretty sure.

He’s got lots of company and so he figures he’s set, in agreement and in tune with current thought of a certain vague group of people. A rational, reasonable man, a normal guy.

In order to grasp Scientology, Lawrence would have to attain an awareness level that would somehow approach, at least to some degree, being able to conceive a Static.

In other words, he’d have to attain somewhat on the way to a state of beingness where he would be ABLE to conceive a Static. That’s quite a jump. In fact, it’s the goal of many schools of enlightenment, to achieve an awareness of “essence”, that cognition of the individual’s actual beingness as source, the creator of space, the maker of energy particles. The distinction of the Static from all that “something” that is everything else. It’s a jump that a whole bunch of people don’t make, even miss altogether. Such is the Tao.

I was studying a tape the other day, Clearing: Possibilities, from 9 June 59 and part of the 6th London Advanced Clinical Course. LRH is going over cases and awareness levels. He’s discussing the subject of “valences” and describing some of the phenomena related to these assumed beingnesses. A person will take on the personality of something he thinks is the best method of surviving. On the other hand, if the person is surviving, then they seem to be in the best method. After all, they’re surviving aren’t they?

For somebody who thinks they live one life, then they have one mode of surviving, that body, its composite personality, the memories of their life adding up to “who they are”.

For a lot of people, they are in the only valence they can conceive, and they barely conceive that and getting them to see beyond that, is quite a task. They muddle along, in a condition of “phrnah, bluch, wog-wog, figure-figure, what wall?”.

Here’s a quote from this lecture:

“Now, let’s simplify this whole thing. We can talk all we want to about the philosophic questions that Man faces and all we find out is that Man doesn’t know that he faces these philosophic questions. He speculates on them very poorly and he does not envision a beingness, ordinarily, which lies outside the beingnesses which he readily observes. He readily observes these beingnesses, he says there are no other beingnesses. Some fine day another beingness jumps up and eats him up, skin and bones and hymn-book too. And he says, “Where did that come from?” He had it all taped.”

Scientology is unreal to Lawrence Wright. That’s why he can’t describe it, write about it or comment on it in any meaningful way. He cannot conceive a Static. Lacking this level of awareness, this cognition or degree of understanding, the subject eludes his grasp.

He can write about the beingnesses he readily observes – his idea of what a person is, what it means to be a regular ol’ human bean. He can opine that this person is “odd”, that person is “normal”, or some other person doesn’t seem to be in agreement with what Lawrence Wright thinks is agreeable or what he considers other “rational, reasonable” people consider is OK. He’s got it all taped.

Falling outside his limited viewpoint, well, one is simply unreal. It’s pretty hard to get around his “now we’re supposed to” think this way about what life is, and what the experience of living consists, especially for Lawrence, because he simply cannot envision some beingness beyond what he thinks beingness is, and so there aren’t any other states of beingness.

He’s got lots of company. (Alex Gibney “didn’t see any holes” in Lawrence’s work.)

Considering this incredibly parochial, narrow, state of existence of these poor fellas, one wonders just who is the prisoner and can feel some pathos for them, bodies unaware that there is any other state of beingness, than bodies.

“Now, when a person has a chewed-up time track and when he himself has been victimizing and being victimized-back and forth, give and take-his own fixations upon valences, his own difficulties and so on have assembled themselves into a personality package than which there is no other. You see? Because it’s totally made up out of attention fixation, he really hasn’t a chance of recognizing-not a chance of recognizing-that there could be any other state of beingness.

“It’s rather pathetic. You jump into a Roman slave pen and say, ‘Come on slaves, strike off your chains, be free’ and so forth. Well, you and I know intellectually they, of course-of course, they’re just waiting for somebody to unlock the gates, you know; and strike off the chains and walk out and assume natural existences and all we’d have to do is just?jump into the slave pen and say, ‘Well, strike off your chains, slaves, here we go.’ You see? And they say, ‘Who’s this nut?’ They’d say, ‘Is there any other state of existence besides slavery?’ “ (LRH, Clearing: Possibilities, 9 June 1959.)

Two-dimensional worms really don’t get other dimensions. They seem to be prisoners of their own belief there just can’t be anything else than what they think they are, a “two -dimensional worm” holding on with white knuckles to that beingness.

Alas, conceiving a Static can be a heavy process, and isn’t recommended for any cases having any real difficulty (Creation of Human Ability R2-40). Gradient scale approaches are indicated as lots of beings are at pretty low levels of awareness that are completely unaware of anything above.

There are those that can reach to the level of cognition that includes the ability to conceive a Static. Those beings can go Clear, they can achieve OT. They can grasp their own postulates and considerations that led them to the state they are in.

They can actually be free.

* * * * * END QUOTATION * * * * *

Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 13, 2015, 06:06:03 AM
                                       Ex-Scio Zac Hopkins' podcasts: Desperately Seeking Shelly (Miscavige)..

The wife of a cult leader has been missing since 2007.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 19, 2015, 03:10:25 PM
                                                             How Scientology Got Its Start

                                                                       TIME Magazine

Last Time Time mentioned Scientology it cost them eleven years of litigation and 8 million dollars in legal fees.

And they were the winners against Scientology`s libel lawsuit.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 25, 2015, 01:11:36 AM
                               Scientology’s Chilling Effect

When I was at Fortune magazine in the 1990s, one of my colleagues was a reporter named Richard Behar. He had a special lock on his door, and he wouldn’t even let the janitor in to empty his wastebasket. He used a secret phone, which he kept hidden in a desk drawer, so that calls made to sources couldn’t be traced back to him.

At first, I just thought he was paranoid. But I soon learned that he had come by his paranoia honestly. In May 1991, as a correspondent for Time magazine, Behar had written an exposé of Scientology, calling it a “hugely profitable global racket that survives by intimidating members and critics in a Mafia-like manner.”....

Post by: Ididntcomeback on February 26, 2015, 06:22:19 PM
                                                EXCLUSIVE: Downtown’s former Scientology building to be converted to apartments
Feb 25, 2015,

Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 05, 2015, 03:50:45 AM
                                       Church of Scientology starts massive ad campaign in UK
3 March 2015

Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 06, 2015, 04:28:57 PM
                                Church of Scientology to open large book store in East Grinstead

THE Church of Scientology has confirmed it is planning to open a book store in the empty shop previously occupied by Blockbuster.

The large unit at 1 Whitehall Parade, on London Road, has been empty since the film rental chain went into administration and closed the branch at the end of 2013.

A sign has been put up this week saying the site is "under offer" prompting speculation online about who is moving in. A spokeswoman for the Church of Scientology has confirmed it is planning to open a book shop at that location.

The rent for 1 Whitehall Parade is thought to be very high with East Grinstead Business Association chief executive Stuart Scholes explaining that two "big retailers" have previously turned their noses up at the unit because of the cost.

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Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 07, 2015, 11:39:17 PM
                                               France: Gloria Lopez suicide investigation reported discontinued

Translation of a French article posted on Feb. 7, 2012 on the website:
Une enquête sur le suicide d'une adepte de la Scientologie classée sans suite
Investigation into the suicide of a Scientologist discontinued

February 7, 2012

(AFP) A preliminary investigation into the 2006 suicide of a follower of the Church of Scientology in Colombes (Hauts-de-Seine) was discontinued last June, said a judicial source on Tuesday.

According to this source, the investigation did not succeed in building a case to prosecute the Church of Scientology, against which a complaint was filed by the children of the deceased woman in October 2008.

Her children reported the matter to judicial authorities because they believe that debts incurred by their mother due to her involvement with Scientology were what led her to take her life.

Her family's suspicions began after the discovery in her home of letters and documents referring to a litany of expenditures and debts for the benefit of the Church of Scientology.

On December 21, 2006, Gloria Lopez, who had been a member of the Church of Scientology for ten years, ended her life at age 47 by letting herself be hit by a train at the Colombes station.

Scientology, which has been classified as a cult by several parliamentary reports in France, was founded in 1954 by American science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard and is considered a religion in the United States and in some European countries. It claims to have more than 10 million followers worldwide and 45,000 in France.

The two principal Scientology entities in France - the Celebrity Centre and its SEL bookstore - saw their conviction for "organized fraud" confirmed on February 2 by the court of appeal, a decision that constitutes a first in France and has been described as "historic" by opponents of the Church.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 13, 2015, 09:11:12 PM
                                            Doubts about Scientology in ‘Disconnection’ (Culture Watch)

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Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 18, 2015, 03:30:05 PM
                                                Former high-ranking Scientologist: “Thetans have no gender”

Gender theory pioneer Kate Bornstein talks about trans visibility, LGBT activism and her history with the church

                                             Scientology NOT taking over Blockbuster

Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 25, 2015, 04:18:22 PM
                                        David Love apologizes to First Nations people for False Data Stripping

Post by: Ididntcomeback on March 31, 2015, 11:25:54 PM
                                                      Jason Beghe: The TV Tough Guy Who Took on Scientology

The 'Chicago P.D.' star used to be a poster boy for the church — when he left, things got ugly

By Andy Greene March 30, 2015

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Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 01, 2015, 06:07:17 AM
                                        This Is One Of The Most Shocking Scientology Stories Not In 'Going Clear'

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 08, 2015, 08:41:38 PM
                                   Scilon Bill Purvis drowns while doing services on the Freewinds, March 29..
Thanks to Glib for bringing this to my attention:

"Police Report Update
On Sunday, March 29th about 17.00 a passenger from the cruise ship Freewinds be resuscitated at the south pier. The passenger was swimming and got sick. Later it was confirmed that the person was deceased. It concerns William Robert Purvis, born on June 11, 1946 in United States. The corpse was seized for further investigation.

Bill Purvis lived in Clearwater. He recently posted photos from the FW on his Facebook:

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 09, 2015, 06:34:15 PM
                               The founder of Scientology has one of the strangest US Navy records ever

business insider

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 13, 2015, 07:36:55 PM
                            Meet Scientology's lobbyist who works the halls of Congress for the church

Hunter Walker, provided by
 Published 2:29 pm, Saturday, April 11, 2015

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 16, 2015, 05:38:43 PM
                                 Take a tour of Scientology's massive Los Angeles real estate empire

21 pages

                                                                             Business Insider

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 17, 2015, 04:53:45 PM
                                       Before You Share This Viral Video, Know It Is Scientology Propaganda

Post by: Ididntcomeback on April 23, 2015, 07:33:30 AM
                                              Why isn't the Church of Scientology paying its downtown tax bill?

Back in 2007, the Church of Scientology bought a historic building across the street from the Kansas City Star's headquarters.

The Star, which at the time leased space in the City National Bank Building, at 1801 Grand, for its advertising functions, covered the transaction on the front page of the March 17, 2007, business section. According to that story, Kansas City's branch of Scientology planned to move its operations from 39th Street and Main to its newest property later that year.

The moving vans never made it downtown.

It's often said the Church of Scientology is the least reliable source of information about itself. The source quoted in that Star story suggests that there's good reason to accept the received wisdom about the controversial religion...

Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 05, 2015, 09:57:49 PM
                                          Kiwi illustrator Amit Dutta flies to Hollywood to collect L Ron Hubbard award

Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 07, 2015, 07:50:46 AM
                                                         Return Your Earlier Edition of Dianetics

"So great has been the demand for the new BOOK that for a limited time only we are making the following offer: Return Your Earlier Edition of Dianetics and get the new edition at 50% off, plus a free DVD"

" FOLLOWING THE DISCOVERY OF PREVIOUSLY UNPUBLISHED MATERIAL...........................the new edition is exactly what the author intended ...............hundreds of thousands are experiencing even greater results with the new edition of Dianetics"

The RUSH is on, don't be left out

I got this from the Church of Scientology of Orange County, California.

Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 09, 2015, 08:21:32 AM
                                Merrell Vannier Outs Scientology Secrets, Leads Call For David Miscavige Resignation

Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 14, 2015, 05:14:48 PM
                                                  Prince Charles donated to Scientology?

13th May 15 | Entertainment News

Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 15, 2015, 11:23:12 PM
                                        Scientology and private investigator dirty tricks in Frederick, Maryland

Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 24, 2015, 08:14:49 AM
David Gibbons on ESMB got a pretty cool and NOT generic response from US Congressman Mike Thompson and

"Dear David Gibbons:

Thank you for contacting me regarding the Church of Scientology's tax-exempt status.
I appreciate you taking the time to share your concerns with me.

The tax-exempt status of the Church of Scientology has been a controversial issue for nearly 50 years, when the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) revoked the entity’s tax exemption in 1967 because its activities were
determined to be commercial and operated for the benefit of individuals, not the public. After a number of lawsuits and legal challenges to regain its tax-exempt status, the IRS recognized the church as a tax-exempt nonprofit organization in 1993. To date, questions remain as to how and why the church's status was reinstated.

Recently, a documentary aired that reignited calls to the IRS to investigate the church and reexamine its nonprofit status. Moreover, a petition on calling for the revocation of the church's tax-exempt
status has been started. While I have not yet seen the documentary, I'm troubled by what I have read.

To obtain and maintain tax-exempt status under the Internal Revenue Code Section 501(c)(3), an organization, including churches, must be organized and operated exclusively for charitable, religious,
educational, and other purposes for public, not private, benefit. I don't believe that Congress should be defining what is, and what is not, a religion, though I do believe that we should evaluate federal tax laws governing tax-exempt organizations and the enforcement of those laws to ensure that nonprofits are meeting their charitable, religious, and educational purposes. Based on what is being reported about the church and its activities, it appears that an IRS review of the organization would be justifiable.

Again, thank you for sharing your thoughts with me. Please continue to contact me on all issues of importance to you and our district.

Member of Congress

Post by: Ididntcomeback on May 30, 2015, 07:51:12 AM
                               Don’t mess with the IRS, prison for inventing church, and it’s not Scientology

Post by: Ididntcomeback on June 03, 2015, 11:50:42 PM
                                     Scientology’s Number One Spy [Exclusive Interview]

Former Church of Scientology member, Merrell Vannier, was with the Church for 30 years, serving as their number one spy for them during many of those years. Then, the Church of Scientology ultimately turned its back on him, and went to the steps of the other Church of Scientology member shuning him, calling him a “suppressive person,’ despite his years of loyal service to the Church. He has not seen his adult daughter, who is a member of the Church of Scientology to this day, in over three years, nor has he had any contact with her.

Merrell Vannier wrote about his experiences in the highly thoughtful and informative book, Arrows in the Dark. He kindly consented to do the following fascinating exclusive interview with Guardian Liberty Voice.

Guardian Liberty Voice: Hi, Merrell. Thanks for agreeing to do this interview and telling the readers of Guardian Liberty Voice about what led to your joining the Church of Scientology, and also working for them as a spy.

What was it about Scientology that you initially found appealing enough to want to join the Church of Scientology?


Post by: Ididntcomeback on June 06, 2015, 04:08:57 PM
                                     Scientology’s David Miscavige, insulted by ‘No Narconon in Frederick’ vote

"This could turn into another Vietnam for the cult if Miscavige chooses to fight in court. I think a lawsuit would come across as vindictive and frivolous, so would create "bad PR' as Hubbard put it. Even if 2 'members' caved in, a revote would still maintain the status quo and the Miscavige REIT would have a piece of property they could only sell,