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« on: May 14, 2009, 09:53:33 PM »

"In DNA 112, Andrew Potts has some questions about whether or not the Church of Scientology is homophobic. Is it?

To be fair, it’s probably easy to overlook the Church of Scientology in New Zealand. There’s only one Auckland church, and it has less than one hundred members in the whole country. Unlike its fellow new religious movement, the Unification Church/Moonies, it hasn’t been actively involved in New Zealand or overseas antigay politics."

Posted today. Continues http://gaynz.com/blog/redqueen/archives/593

Some good bits, but some factual errors too though (census lists ~350 scientologists in NZ). And some lolwut: "It has to be said that anti-Scientology groups, like “Anonymous,” have been similarly aggressive in their activities against the organisation."

Seems like this guy is dubious about them but wants more evidence. I can remember seeing an Auckland video of a scientologist saying gay people were physically ill at a protest last year. Any exlons have stories to share on the topic?

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« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2009, 08:04:44 PM »

Scientology works from the veiwpoint that gay people are ill.  They need scientology auditing to 'cure' them of being gay.  Hubbard's own son, Quentin was gay and he gassed himself.   Hubbard never accepted his homosexuality.

There is mention of it being an 'aberation' (anything that Hubbard thinks is wrong with someone) in Dianetics.  I will try and find the exact quotes, they'll be on ESMB somewhere!
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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2009, 11:23:20 PM »

Oh man, dig up that video - that would be superb linkage for them, as well as linking through to Michael Pattinson's story. It's TLDR but here it is : http://www.lermanet.com/michaelpattinson/
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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2009, 11:26:21 PM »

LOL, it's been covered already :)
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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2009, 02:54:36 AM »

Yep, it's at about 7:00 here:



(sorry guys, only admins can embed videos. I tried to install a mod so all users could do it, but it looks like it's not compatible with our server settings.)
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« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2011, 04:42:55 PM »

  Exclusive:

                   The Morton Report

        Scientology's Big Gay Problem, Part 1: LRH's War Against Homosexuality

The following is part one of our mini-series on Scientology's long-time stance against homosexuality, its discriminatory practices against gays within its ranks, and how founder L. Ron Hubbard's own early sexual "experiences" may have unduly affected his view on homosexuality.


Objection and Defection

Paul Haggis' (two-time Oscar-winning writer/director) now well-publicized defection from the Church of Scientology came about for numerous reasons.

As he outlined in his letter of departure: (a) Haggis has two lesbian daughters and supports gay and lesbian rights, (b) an employee of the San Diego church signed Scientology's name to a petition supporting California’s Proposition 8, which denied gay and lesbian couples the right to legally wed, (c) he had expressed his displeasure to church spokesman Tommy Davis and been told something would be done but Haggis felt it had not, and (d) Haggis claimed that his daughter Katy was ostracized by Scientologists after she revealed she was a lesbian.

Although Tommy Davis claimed there was no such prejudice in the church, Lawrence Wright pointed out in his February 2011 New Yorker article about Haggis and Scientology that when he examined recent copies of L. Ron Hubbard’s Dianetics, the definition of "sexual pervert" included homosexuals and lesbians.

Haggis had other major problems with Scientology despite his 35-year membership, not the least of which was that his wife, actress Debbie Rennard, was ordered to “disconnect” (completely shun) her parents when they left Scientology.

Rennard’s own membership rivaled Haggis in time spent; prior to marrying the moviemaker, she had a long relationship with the late film director and acting coach Milton Katselas, whose acting classes at his Beverly Hills Playhouse formed a literal feeder unit for the Scientology Celebrity Centre for decades.  Many well-known stars like Anne Archer, Catherine Bell, Jenna Elfman, Priscilla Presley, and Giovanni Ribisi studied there (although Ribisi was born into a Scientology family).

What most people reading Wright’s article did not know is: Dianetics and Scientology, and the gay and lesbian lifestyle have been at odds since the beginning, because of none other than Lafayette Ronald Hubbard.

Whenever the subject of gays and Scientology comes up in conversation, it is inevitable that someone in the know will point out that Scientology celebrities rumored to be gay cannot leave Scientology because their “pre-clear folders” (the notated record of counseling session, recorded by hand as it progresses) would be exposed to the public at large, thereby ruining a gay or bisexual actors’ chances of getting straight leading roles.

Would that happen? It was certainly true in years past, but who knows in this day and age.

In December 2010, openly gay actor Rupert Everett (My Best Friend’s Wedding) told the BBC he barely worked for almost a decade, only to finally move back to England. He depicted Hollywood as “an extremely conservative world” that only appeared to be liberal. Still, sexual orientation hasn’t exactly slowed down Neil Patrick Harris (whose Smurfs movie hit #1 this year) or Sir Ian McKellen. It also hasn’t prevented Gus Van Sant from making movies, kept Ellen DeGeneres from having a hit TV show, or stopped Jane Lynch from hosting the 2011 Emmy Awards.

Would Scientology try to use confidential “priest-penitent” information against a defector? Maybe.

Is there a general prejudice against gays and lesbians within the Scientology community? Yes and no. If you’re a celebrity, generally there is not, because celebrities give a lot of money to Scientology and are used in promoting the church established by L. Ron Hubbard in 1953. If a celebrity leaves Scientology, though, or even if they stray, it can be quite different.


Confessions Revealed, Loose Lips

Full disclosure - I’m completely heterosexual, and single. I’m also a former Scientologist, with a long association at the Celebrity Centre, both as a staff member who worked closely with the Centre’s founder, Yvonne Jentzsch, and as a “public person” afterward. On the other hand, I did not spend the kind of money poured into Scientology’s coffers by people like Tom Cruise or John Travolta, so even though I fit the Celebrity Centre definition of a celebrity, I was never treated like one.

The first time I encountered the breaking of confidentiality of Scientology auditing information was when Don Baaska, a jazz musician who was at the time Celebrity Centre’s Senior Case Supervisor, stunned me with a comment.

The Senior C/S in any Scientology facility is the person in charge of the application of “standard technology” (Scientology done exactly as Hubbard outlined) to every person receiving Scientology “auditing” (counseling). That includes complete confidentiality of what transpires in any “session” and all Scientologists are admonished not to discuss their own “case” (mental problems they’re using Dianetics and Scientology to conquer) outside of session. Naturally, the stipulation is even more rigorously applied to “auditors” (counselors), and C/Ses should never discuss what transpires.

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Nevertheless Baaska, after I mentioned Scientology celebrity musician Jimmie Spheeris (brother of movie director Penelope Spheeris) getting a new recording contract, groused to me that Spheeris would probably blow the money on partying that included homosexual exploits. Baaska said it had been on ongoing problem. I knew Jimmie a little, knew members of his band better (they included some Celebrity Centre staff members), but I had no idea he was gay or (more likely as I learned over the years, bisexual).

It was only the beginning; in the years that followed in my Scientology adventure, I learned that confidentiality of information within counseling sessions was largely a myth.

In those days, the mid-1970s, the Celebrity Centre located on Eighth Street between downtown Los Angeles and MacArthur Park was a bohemian enclave of many out of the mainstream ideas. When I arrived, there were three people who claimed to have been Mark Twain in a previous life.

The brother of actor Stephen Boyd confided to me that Yvonne Jentzsch has been Bodhidharma in a past incarnation, and before the Centre moved to a new home at 1551 N. La Brea in Hollywood, artist and calligrapher Bruce Bishop got hold of “Hymn of Asia” - a piece Hubbard had written to try to impress a Buddhist convention - and turned it into an impressively illustrated book. (Hubbard hadn’t impressed the Buddhists, maybe because in the book he alluded to being the reincarnated Buddha.)

I’d grown up in small Texas towns where homosexuals were almost non-existent, but I was open to examining any idea. I was also naïve; when a film editor taking a class at the Centre asked me to hang out on a Saturday night, I had no idea he was gay until I got in the car with him and he propositioned me, and then I got out.

Dianetics.jpgDespite Don Baaska’s comment, Scientologists seemed accepting of just about anything in those days, and I didn’t sense a “gay problem” despite what I read in Hubbard’s book Dianetics:

    "The sexual pervert (and by this term Dianetics, to be brief, includes any and all forms of deviation in dynamic two such as homosexuality, lesbianism, sexual sadism, etc., and all down the catalog of Ellis and Krafft-Ebing) is actually quite ill physically… he is very far from culpable for his condition, but he is also far from normal and extremely dangerous to society…”

    (Dianetics, The Modern Science of Mental Health, Book Two, Chapter 5, p. 120 - “dynamic two” being the sex and family part of the eight “dynamics” or means of survival in life that Hubbard devised, reminiscent of Buddha’s “Eightfold Path.”)

Even worse, in Science of Survival, the follow-up to Dianetics, Hubbard outlined a numerical range of emotions that he dubbed “the tone scale” that ranged from -3 at the bottom (death), to +4 at the top (enthusiasm). According to that chart, "perverts" such as homosexuals, were at the level of “covert hostility” or 1.1:

    “At 1.1 on the tone scale we enter the area of the most vicious reversal of the second dynamic. Here we have promiscuity, perversion, sadism, and irregular practices."

    (Science of Survival, Book One, Chapter 18, page 116.)


Rock Hudson Narrowly Escapes

It was odd, because I didn’t see any examples of such perversions or irregular practices (whatever those were) in Jimmie Spheeris or other people who were openly gay around Celebrity Centre, such as classical pianist Mario Feninger and his boyfriend Ian Brooks, or Scientology auditor and “ethics counselor” Margaret George, a very butch older woman who drove a Corvette, smoked continuously, and seemed to have a penchant for young blonde lady Scientologists. I also never heard any complaints about gays and lesbians.

One day, however, the Centre was abuzz because Scientologist Flo Allen, a talent agent whose best friend was Scientologist Marion Wagner (divorced from actor Robert Wagner), had brought in her famous client Rock Hudson for an introductory auditing session. Hudson didn’t last long - I saw him leaving in a hurry and asked why he was upset. No one would tell me but later, his auditor Carmine Terra explained that Hudson had hit upon a homosexual “withhold” (undisclosed transgression against a moral code) and wouldn’t reveal it, so he bolted. This was many years before Hudson contracted AIDS and created worldwide headlines by “coming out.”

It was quite a surprise to me to learn that the man who had starred in so many movies opposite Doris Day actually liked guys, but the longer I was around Celebrity Centre, the odder life in Hollywood seemed to be. And when the organization moved its headquarters to Hollywood, there would be many more revelations to amaze.


Coming tomorrow:  Part 2 of TMR's exclusive report: "Scientology's Big Gay Problem: LRH's Lies and Secrets Unravel"

http://www.themortonreport.com/celebrity/hollywood/exclusive-scientologys-big-gay-problem-part-1/

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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2011, 08:10:22 PM »

                Part 2 by Andrew Morton.


The following is part two of our mini-series on Scientology's long-time stance against homosexuality, its discriminatory practices against gays within its ranks, and how founder L. Ron Hubbard's own early sexual "experiences" may have unduly affected his view on homosexuality.

Outing and Ousting

I’d been a fan of TV’s Laugh-In and one of my favorites had been Lily Tomlin. One night I was in the office of Division 6, the part of the Centre responsible for bringing new “public” into Scientology, when a woman named Eileen Zee burst in, crying. A number of us tried to calm her down and found out that her boss, Lily Tomlin, had been hitting on her and Eileen was afraid of losing her job. So Lily Tomlin was a lesbian? Well, I thought, that’s just Hollywood.

Ultimately, Eileen didn’t get Lily into Scientology, which the Division 6 staff had been coaching her on doing.

TravoltaEMeter.jpgJohn Travolta’s sexuality has been questioned in the media for years, but while on staff, I never heard anything about it. He’d been brought into Scientology by actress Joan Prather, someone I’d had a mad crush on in high school, when she appeared daily as a go-go dancer on a TV music show out of Dallas. I figured if Travolta (right, using e-meter) was dating Prather, he was quite a lucky guy.

Later, when the Centre was on La Brea in Hollywood, I talked to Travolta once and had no inkling there was anything gay about him.

But I had worse things to worry about in 1977, when many Scientology executives like myself were told we had terrible spiritual problems and “evil intentions” against Hubbard due to items that had shown up in our auditing sessions. We were told we could either go work on the Rehabilitation Project Force (RPF) to get all fixed up spiritually, or be banished. I joined the RPF long enough to figure out that this event just happened to coincide with Scientology purchasing the former Cedars of Lebanon hospital on Sunset, and that we were a slave labor force there to fix it up.

I took my exit from staff and found out that I wasn’t banished after all. I just had to pay for all the auditing and training I’d received in four years, which added up to around $15,000. To the shock of former staff members, I ended up on a game show and won almost exactly that amount in cash and prizes. I wrote a radio script and sold it, helped start a magazine, and within a year, I was an up-and-coming personality in Hollywood and a celebrity in my own right.

That’s when I met Paul Haggis and we began a writers group of Scientologists at the Celebrity Centre, one that ran for years. As I became well known as a professional writer in the Scientology community, people began to explain things to me that I had only wondered about before.

john-mcmaster.jpgFor example, while on staff at Celebrity Centre I’d found out about John McMaster (left), Clear #1, who had been an amazing ambassador of goodwill for Hubbard in the early years. (Hubbard said McMaster was “the first real clear.”) I couldn’t find much material on McMaster, so I asked questions, and one night the top auditor at Celebrity Centre explained it to me.

“He’s not around any more,” he said curtly. “He’s gay.”

“What do you mean?” I asked.

“Homosexual,” came the explanation. “1.1 on the tone scale - Ron hates homosexuals. Didn’t you read Science of Survival?"

Once off staff, I found out people had loved McMaster, but he apparently couldn’t stand the homophobic hostility and irrational behavior displayed by Scientology’s founder. He left the organization in 1968, only to be “declared” a “Suppressive Person” by Hubbard. Yvonne Jentzsch had been tight-lipped when I’d asked her about McMaster, but she told me that he had “gone PTS” (become a Potential Trouble Source, meaning someone under the influence of a Suppressive Person, or “SP”). She did reveal though, that McMaster had invented the Power Processes of Scientology, a precursor to “going Clear” on the “Bridge to Total Freedom” Scientology chart of progress.

I learned that Hubbard had made McMaster the "Pope" of Scientology in 1966, but McMaster protested some of Hubbard’s crazy behavior and they grew apart. Maybe it was when Hubbard imprisoned a 4-year-old child in a chain locker on board the Scientology “Sea Organization” ship Apollo, after chewing up one of Hubbard's papers. Or, perhaps it was when McMaster was forcibly thrown into the ocean (which Hubbard called “overboarding”) and struggled in the water with a broken collarbone for hours.

Post-Scientology, McMaster told an interviewer: “I saw that he was in it for the money and personal power, and his actual intentions were not as stated. The basic function of auditing is a wonderful thing, but Hubbard perverted it."

Perverted? The way homosexuals supposedly operated?

Ron Rules Rhodesia

One of the more compelling audiotapes that staff members and Scientologists would refer to in those days was “Ron’s Journal ’67” in which he said:

    pg036.jpg“In 1966, knowing that the world would not go on forever without war, and knowing that it might be very advisable for us to have all of our materials in a safe repository, I went down to southern Africa in order to establish an area where this could be effected.”

Specifically, it was Rhodesia (LRH in Africa right), and what Hubbard left out of the story was that he had tried to take over the country of Rhodesia based on his personal charm and Scientology “technology.”

I’d asked Yvonne Jentzsch about that, because she’d told me she had nursed “Ron” back to health after he did the mental/spiritual research in developing the vaunted “OT3” (Operating Thetan, Level 3, thetan being the Scientology world for spiritual being coined by Hubbard from the Greek word “theta” meaning “life”). Supposedly, Hubbard had broken his back while breaking through the “Wall of Fire” psychic traps put in place by space aliens and had confided many things to Yvonne.

Okay, so it sounds nuts to the normal person, but Scientology was layered on you bit by bit, and the more encapsulated you became in the community, the more likely you could believe the next bit of balderdash. Besides, Yvonne Jentzsch, like McMaster, was highly likable and since she had three kids she wasn’t a lesbian, so why shouldn’t I believe her?

In the Scientology community, I was known as a writer after being off-staff for little more than a year. I’d been on national TV, I knew people in Hollywood, and people came to me with stories.

One such acquaintance, John Ausley, had been married to Paulette Ausley, the person in charge of the Qualifications Division of Scientology worldwide, reporting directly to L. Ron Hubbard. Paulette had been responsible for the “tech error” that had supposedly allowed all the southern California executives to be sent to the RPF, only to have it “discovered” by Hubbard about the time the renovations on “the Complex” (the former hospital) were being completed. John’s sister, Liz Gablehouse, was Hubbard’s personal Public Relations Officer. So I figured he knew what he was talking about.

rhodes.jpgSince more than one Scientologist had told me Hubbard was certain he had been Cecil Rhodes (the man who gave the country its name) in a former life, I asked John about a picture I’d seen of Hubbard (left) standing smugly, hands on hips, on the tomb of Rhodes. Had he tried to take over the country because he’d once de facto ruled it as Cecil Rhodes? Ausley laughed.

“Ha! He quit talking about that,” he said. “He got kicked out of the country because he was kissing the butt of Ian Smith, the Prime Minister, and people could see right through him.”

“So he didn’t think anyone would believe he’d been Rhodes?”

“Nah. He used to brag about that on the Apollo, then one night Kima Douglas said, ‘Sir, did you know Cecil Rhodes was a flaming homosexual?’ Never heard him mention it again.”

Kima Douglas, shades of Yvonne Jentzsch, had nursed Hubbard back to health on the Apollo after he ignored staff warnings and went riding his motorcycle dockside on a rainy night in a Mediterranean port and crashed horribly. I’d known that much about her, but hearing that she’d shut Hubbard up about Rhodes made me laugh, though I was still a somewhat loyal Scientologist. (I wasn’t laughing later when I found out that Cecil Rhodes had been instrumental in the Boer Wars in Africa, where the British established concentration camps that killed tens of thousands of people. Shades of the RPF...)

Quentin Hubbard's Suspicious Suicide

This prompted me to ask John Ausley about John McMaster, and he confirmed the good things I’d heard from others about the man. We also had discussions about the death of Hubbard’s son Quentin who was reportedly - like McMaster - a master auditor, much beloved, and gay. Ausley grew agitated discussing the situation, because he’d seen Quentin yelled at by his father, which in Ausley’s opinion had more to do with Quentin being gay than anything else.

quentin_in_1973.jpgI’d met Quentin (right) briefly but never thought about his sexuality, only found him to be quite affable and admirable in the way he (as Scientology royalty) conducted himself. On October 28, 1976 he had been found - as the story went - in Las Vegas, slumped over the steering wheel of a Pontiac parked near the McCarran Airport, a possible suicide attempt. Admitted to the hospital as a John Doe with no identification, he died two weeks later.

A few years later, a Scientologist named Cathy McCoy, who had met Quentin when he visited the Scientology organization in Sacramento, told me that Quentin was not gay, that he was bisexual if anything, and that he had been driving to California to be with her after leaving staff at Flag (the Scientology base in Clearwater, Florida).

A few years after that, I was dating Nikki Merwin, secretary and best friend to Mary Sue Hubbard, on the Apollo at the same time as the Ausleys and Liz Gablehouse, and she told me that Hubbard had considered his son an embarrassment and that Quentin’s death at the age of 22 would be bad “PR” for Scientology. (She later told me that Hubbard’s main reaction to his wife going to prison, taking the rap for him in “Operation Snow White,” was over her being strip-searched. Not exactly a font of compassion, that Hubbard.)

In recent years, one of my kids was a good friend of a son of the late Joe Lisa, one of the Scientology “Guardian’s Office” operatives dispatched to Las Vegas to “handle” Quentin. There were many oddities about how Quentin had been found, shocking to anyone who knew how Quentin usually comported himself, but the most shocking to me was hearing how someone had entered the hospital room, unplugged the IV, and put the “embarrassment” out of his misery.

It took many years for me to get to the point where I knew anything was possible with Hubbard and Scientology.

John Travolta Gay Rumors and LRH's Web of Lies

When I met John Ausley he was an aspiring writer and came to me for advice, which I readily gave him. We would talk about what various Scientologists were doing in Hollywood, and a big disappointment to both of us was John Travolta’s movie Moment by Moment with Lily Tomlin. We were both of the opinion that it came across as a gay guy trying to pretend to be in love with an older lesbian, as though both of them were straight. The movie was panned by everyone, and flopped at the box office.

lily_tomlin_john_travolta_mc.jpgScientologists I knew would often discuss with me whether Travolta was gay, despite the girlfriends I knew he’d had. I knew that one of his managers, the late Bob Lemond, was gay. I knew Travolta’s auditor who helped him through illness and upset on the set of Urban Cowboy, who I was fairly certain was at least bisexual.

But I didn’t care! Why should I? If Rock Hudson could entertain me all those years playing straight, what did it matter?

What did matter to me was hypocrisy, and as the years went on I saw more and more of it from L. Ron Hubbard, with stories revealed to me by people who knew him very well, such as his long-time agent, the somewhat legendary (particularly in science-fiction circles) Forrest J. Ackerman.

I received a number of early Dianetics and Scientology books from a woman who had been Hubbard’s babysitter in Phoenix, who quit because of his explosive temper. I learned from more than one source that Hubbard’s stories of being crippled and blinded after World War II were an outright lie - they’d been in the hospital with him at Oak Knoll Hospital in Oakland. He wasn’t at all blinded or crippled, I was told, but he was a giant pain in the ass to staff. I met a man who told me stories of Hubbard from Hollywood parties pre-Dianetics who would give him a ride because Hubbard was too broke to own a car.

pieceofbluesky.cov2.jpgAnd then in 1996 I had my own split with Scientology, after being accused of having “withholds” from the organization. By then I was married with a couple of kids, flourishing as a writer, and not terribly active. My wife read the book A Piece of Blue Sky by Jon Atack and I followed suit, then I told Scientology I was through. A couple of people in Scientology Navy suits showed up unannounced in the middle of the night and tried to “dead agent” Atack (defuse his claims), starting with the accusation that he had been a heroin addict.

“A heroin addict like Chick Corea, you mean?” I asked. (I’d been to a giant party thrown by Paul McCartney with Chick and some other people, and knew things about him.) “Or Nicky Hopkins?” (I’d been roommates with Nicky while putting on plays at the Celebrity Centre.) My knowledge of the backgrounds of these prominent Scientology celebrities and other things helped shut down my want-to-be handlers.

They left and I never heard from them or Scientology again.

http://www.themortonreport.com/celebrity/hollywood/exclusive-scientologys-big-gay-problem-part-2-lrhs-lies-and-secrets-unravel/
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« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2011, 11:26:37 AM »

    Exclusive: Scientology's Big Gay Problem, Part 3: Was Founder L. Ron Hubbard Bi-Sexual?

Lots here.. including photos....

http://www.themortonreport.com/celebrity/hollywood/exclusive-scientologys-big-gay-problem-part-3-was-founder-l-ron-hubbard-bi-sexual/
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« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2011, 11:10:56 AM »

                       Ex-Scientologist Sounds Out Church’s ‘Big Gay Problem`

Last week, LA author Skip Press delivered a fascinating three-part report about the Church of Scientology for The Morton Report, a blog created by British author and journalist Andrew Morton. No surprise there; as a former Scientologist (1973-1996), Press knows his subject as thoroughly as anyone.

The focus of Press’ must-read and refreshingly condensed three-part investigation is the Church’s seemingly conflicted dealings with gays and lesbians. In Part 1, Press recalls how a Church case supervisor made disparaging and confidentiality-breaching remarks about musician Jimmie Spheeris, brother of film director Penelope. He also revisits a disastrous auditing session involving Rock Hudson.

In Part 2, Press examines the departure of long-time Scientology advocate John McMaster. But it is in his final installment, published September 23, that Press veers into the most explosive aspect of his “Scientology’s Big Gay Problem” series—the idea that church founder L. Ron Hubbard had some early formative homosexual experiences.

Sourcing an unpublished but corroborated manuscript, Press (pictured) touches on a trip Hubbard took around the age of 12 with his mother aboard transport ship the USS U.S. Grant, traveling from Seattle to Virginia via the Panama Canal. The vessel’s commander was 48-year-old Joseph Cheesman Thompson:

    In one scene, Thompson invites young Hubbard to his stateroom, and teaches him about hypnotism. One thing about L. Ron Hubbard is certain–he was a master hypnotist. And then Thompson teaches Hubbard about something else–sex–and young Ron goes along, because there is much to learn…

    In previous years, I might have doubted writing that claimed young Ron Hubbard had sexual relations with “Snake” Thompson but Hubbard’s own words convince me otherwise. Specifically, Hubbard’s “affirmations.”

Indeed, Press goes on to share a leaked Hubbard affirmation that appears to echo the unpublished manuscript’s early-days account, although he is careful to frame it all as grounds for further investigation. Since leaving the Church, Press has worked extensively in Hollywood as a journalist, author, screenwriter, director and creative consultant.

http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlla/church-of-scientology-skip-press-morton-report-big-gay-problem_b40139
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« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2011, 04:38:05 PM »

                                    Interview: John Waters

Bad boyfriends

.....WHEN the 2007 movie Hairspray ran into controversy, John Waters leapt to the defence of John Travolta, who had donned a fat suit for a cross-dressing role.

A prominent gay activist claimed the actor should not have been cast because his religion, Scientology, tried to convert homosexuals.

''John Travolta is certainly not anti-gay,'' says Waters, who wrote in the memoir Role Models that he and fellow filmmaker Gus Van Sant always joke about being called ''openly gay'' as if that means they arrive at premieres shrieking about their Judy Garland records.

''Every person that worked on that movie was gay. It was lovely.''

Waters says Scientology is no more ridiculous than other religions.

''Here's how I feel: even if Scientologists say that they can make you straight if you're gay, so what? If someone's that miserable being gay, I don't want 'em. They'll just make bad boyfriends. Let Scientology have them!''

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/interview-john-waters-20111013-1llki.html#ixzz1ap1sZo3r
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« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2012, 03:46:37 PM »

      Mad Men’s Elizabeth Moss Is A Scientologist But She’s Not Down With Homophobia
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One of the most important things I take from my church is the idea of personal freedom and our rights as human beings, and that includes the right to date a man or a woman. Personal freedom is a very important concept in my religion, and I translate that to sexual orientation. If we’re all supposed to have the right to the life that we want to lead, then that should apply to the gay community. There isn’t really any dogma or scripture, yes or no, right or wrong on that particular subject in my church. It’s more open to personal interpretation, and that’s my interpretation.”

Free-thinking Mad Men actress Elizabeth Moss, about the Church of Scientology’s stance on gays, in the Advocate.


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Full story here: http://www.queerty.com/193606-20120329/#ixzz1qZILRKtw
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« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2012, 12:38:23 AM »

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Scientology's Homophobia: Even the Church's Token Gay Guy Was Disgusted

By Tony Ortega Sun., Sep. 2 2012

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/09/scientology_keith_relkin.php

Also posted on the Village Voice thread
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« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2016, 07:52:41 PM »

                                           Oscar nominee Cate Blanchett calls out Scientology for their homophobia.

From Oh Know They Didn't: Cate Blanchett sings (also calls out Scientology for their homophobia)!

http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/99952263.html

At approximately 9:15.

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?41310-Oscar-nominee-Cate-Blanchett-calls-out-Scientology-for-their-homophobia
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« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2016, 07:46:13 PM »

                                      Scientology 'Life Coach' Speaks Out Against The Church's Horrifying Jail For Gays

http://www.out.com/news-opinion/2016/3/25/scientology-life-coach-speaks-out-against-churchs-horrifying-jail-gays
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« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2016, 07:19:18 AM »

                                   Ex-Scientologist life coach claims she was ‘imprisoned for a lesbian kiss’

Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2016/03/27/ex-scientologist-life-coach-claims-she-was-imprisoned-for-a-lesbian-kiss-5778920/#ixzz44E82yHBF
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